Quote from: Trainfish on November 07, 2024, 11:48:52 PMWas it cold when Rob made that video? He appears to be shivering.

Just a natural occurrence when you get to 77
Luckily I have 18 years to go until I get there

After much searching, I've finally found a photo of a train of Scotrail Mk2a with a DBSO:
https://flic.kr/p/H3SH7G
(1A59 1125 Glasgow Queen Street to Aberdeen 1985)

Much more common was the odd Mk2a in a rake of Mk2d/Mk2e:
https://flic.kr/p/2cNavgk
https://flic.kr/p/dSs9q4
https://flic.kr/p/nK7z2m


Steven B

Quote from: Stuart Down Under on November 07, 2024, 10:13:30 PM

Quote from: eddief83 on November 07, 2024, 05:16:22 PM1960's Pullmans used either an original pullman brake or Mark1 BG so hopefully the K Pullman from Revolution will be available on its own for those who want just a brake for their sets

Or at least they might offer a pair of K-type brake seconds, to top and tail four Farish Mk1 firsts - the precise formation of the 1960 Master Cutler Pullman, when Mk 1s were introduced to replace the non-brake Ks.  I believe that some of the K-type brake seconds were converted from other K-types to compensate for the absence of Mk1 pullman brakes.
 

I am happy to be corrected but I don't think that as yet Revolution have shared their thoughts on how they might package these coaches, but I would assume "packs" of some kind. It is to be hoped that Revolution Trains have identified the "opportunity" and might either sell Brake coaches individually or as pairs to complement the Farish Metro Cammell ones in such trains.

Pricing for the Ks is yet obviously an unknown an far too early in the process for this to be confirmed, I would expect that it will to some extent depend on the final spec that is decided on, but as we have already been told that it will be high as befits a Pullman coach, I would be expecting something some way above (say) a Farish Mk 1's RRP. This could though (hopefully) mean that such a small pack of two brakes would be seen as an "affordable" option and thus make commercial sense.

Time will tell...

Roy

Was it cold when Rob made that video? He appears to be shivering.

 

When the teddy bear train does finally debut it looks fab, though.

Quote from: eddief83 on November 07, 2024, 05:16:22 PM1960's Pullmans used either an original pullman brake or Mark1 BG so hopefully the K Pullman from Revolution will be available on its own for those who want just a brake for their sets

Or at least they might offer a pair of K-type brake seconds, to top and tail four Farish Mk1 firsts - the precise formation of the 1960 Master Cutler Pullman, when Mk 1s were introduced to replace the non-brake Ks.  I believe that some of the K-type brake seconds were converted from other K-types to compensate for the absence of Mk1 pullman brakes.
  

Quote from: montyburns56 on November 07, 2024, 04:13:28 PM

Quote from: Steven B on November 07, 2024, 09:25:21 AMIt'd be really nice if they'd tool the BFK interior and underframe (shared body with the BSO).

Steven B

Yeah, I've got two BSOs to make up for the lack of TSOs, but oddly enough I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. Although I didn't realise that the underframe is different, I was thinking that I could just add the seating section from a FK and add the yellow stripe. Is the underframe radically different?

The roof vents are different... which is something that I didn't address on my conversion. A Mk 2 FK seating insert should be straightforward (using a Mk 1 interior is less so).

So now we need another run of 47's with push pull equipment and DBSO's 

Quote from: Roy L S on November 07, 2024, 03:57:40 PM

Quote from: class8mikado on November 07, 2024, 03:51:59 PMSeems unfair to close this thread before mentioning that Revoloution are now in the process of producing some K Class pullmans, and that farish have eventually done a Mk1 Pullman brake, initially difficult to obtain but now available to all.
Was hoping to find some comment on an Arnold OE Pullman (not BB) which has found its way onto my ER metals (via a train ferry? with a French dignitary on board) supposedly 1:160 but looks fine with its 1;148 running mates...

There is actually no such thing as a Mark 1 (Metro Cammell) Pullman Brake, what Farish have produced is a "standard" Mk1 brake coach that was repainted into a faux pullman livery during the preservation era. Back in BR days they would as I understand it typically run with a maroon Mk 1 BG or similar.

Yes, car 355 and car 356 done by the collectors club were part of the SLOA pullman set used on railtours in the 1980's, its a train I did some research into to model and I even managed to get the right coaches for the set.

1960's Pullmans used either an original pullman brake or Mark1 BG so hopefully the K Pullman from Revolution will be available on its own for those who want just a brake for their sets

Steven

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/149419-scotrail-liveried-mk2-coaches-in-the-mid-80s/


Interesting reading @Steven B

A photo

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/429-scottish-region-photos-1980s/page/36/
Evidence of this if scroll around

https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/5658317877/

Glasgow Queen Street
Short formation 2D stock


Chris