EFE Rail announce the Imerys JIA China Clay hopper

[woodbury22uk]

EFE Rail have announced that they are adding a completely new N model of the JIA China Clay hopper for early release:-

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/159446-efe-rail-winter-2020-announcements-beattie-well-tank-gate-stock-class-58-cargowaggons-plus-2-new-n-gauge-projects/&tab=comments#comment-4176374

[NGS-PO]

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Superfluous.

[njee20]

**deep sigh**

:'(

[PaulCheffus]

**deep sigh**

:'(

Hi

I feel your pain. I had the same when Dapol announced the telescopic steel hoods just as I finished the first of my scratchbuilt ones.

Cheers

Paul

[Bob G]

JIAs are not for me but a Shark long before KR Models version and also long before my NGS ones have been finished too ! LOL !!!

Bob

[njee20]

Hi

I feel your pain. I had the same when Dapol announced the telescopic steel hoods just as I finished the first of my scratchbuilt ones.

It's always going to be the risk! Still got a source of wagons for myself, and the pride that they're mine, and I've got the Imerys font right!

[scottishlocos]

Brilliant

Glad the shrink ray has been put on these wagons

[JBQFC]

will get a few of these hopefully the PBA will follow

John   

[njee20]

I find it intriguing how they're managing to keep to sensible retail prices on EFE products. I've heard £43 mentioned for these, they're a vastly more complex wagon than the HKA, with tonnes of separately applied detail, yet they're 20% cheaper. Bachmann appear to be undercutting themselves.

[jpendle]

Are these things still out in the wild?
And where do they run to?

Thanks,

John P

[woodbury22uk]

I find it intriguing how they're managing to keep to sensible retail prices on EFE products. I've heard £43 mentioned for these, they're a vastly more complex wagon than the HKA, with tonnes of separately applied detail, yet they're 20% cheaper. Bachmann appear to be undercutting themselves.

I suspect Bachmann want to portray Farish as a premium brand, sold at premium prices. So EFE Rail has to be a bit more budget priced. Certainly Bachmann will have a healthy margin still, and at least they are not fighting for production slots in the parent company's factories. I am sure that the JIAs will sell through more quickly than the HKAs.

[red_death]

Pricing will depend (to a point) on which factory is tooling and producing them and ultimately how many EFE are producing. I don't know how much tooling/separate parts the JIA needs but the quantity of tools and amount of assembly also have an impact on price.

A lot of the "new" factories are more flexible in terms of quantities (both overall numbers and per livery/number variants) than Kader (Farish's owner and manufacturer).

Having said which the price from eg Rails is £37.35 for the JIAs and £39 for the HKAs so not much difference.

Cheers Mike

[red_death]

Are these things still out in the wild?
And where do they run to?

I'm pretty sure they still run - the main flow is Cornwall to Stoke IIRC.

Cheers Mike

[msr]

Something like this Cornwall to Stoke train can now be recreated in N Gauge, here using the slightly weathered JIA wagons plus one that is pristine. The video shows the train in action.




https://youtu.be/3UUbMSW73ME

[njee20]

They are great looking wagons. For me they've not quite got the weathering right. It's a shame as the Dapol silver bullet is similar, and Dapol nailed that. I believe I'm right in saying that Mercig was involved in the (OO gauge) master for these, but it clearly hasn't translated too well. The heavily weathered N gauge ones look to be slightly different to the OO gauge ones, with more clay deposits on the solebar, but the lettering is still too washed out. I also can't unsee the fact the font is wrong on the Imerys logo - too blocky. Such a shame, that couldn't be easier to get right, surely!?

Shalln't be replacing my 3D prints!

Pretty certain they do still run, seen here just under a year ago, with 18 on. They run in several 'legs' -Parkandilack (and probably other Cornish terminals) - Burngullow - Exeter - Bescot. Not sure where they go beyond Bescot, Stoke does seem likely. They run once a week IIRC.

Sunday Imerys by Rob Class66, on Flickr