Hattons and Farish

Started by Bob G, January 21, 2019, 12:21:28 PM

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woodbury22uk

Quote from: Kaput on April 23, 2019, 10:41:57 AM
Can't help be a little bemused by the idea that Bachmann/Farish is basically sitting on a pile of stock allocated to Hattons yet nobody has any idea whether the dispute will be settled or not.


i think that the remark from Hattons is in respect of pre-ordered items. If Bachmann has accepted Hattons' order for these and intends to honour the order, then there will be a pre-allocation of the production to Hattons. Hattons appears to believe the order has been accepted, and that is probably where the dispute begins, if Bachmann is saying "but you are no longer complying with our order conditions."


Mike

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Stuart Down Under

Just noticed that Hattons are still listed on the Bachmann website as a stockist! :confusedsign:

njee20

Why? They have an ongoing dispute, they're not not a stockist. This is discussed literally in the posts preceding yours. Bachmann have kept Hatton's stock allocation pending the resolution of the debate.

It's entirely possible the conclusion will be the loss of Hatton's as a stockist, but I can't see that happening.

Paul-H

Why not, if Bachmann are going after Hattons for breaking trading terms, why not go for the big boy as a warning to all the others.

As for they won't keep it up because it will cost them too much money, but will it, what do you think will happen to Hattons Farish/Bachmann customers when they can't get their new models from Hattons, they will all go elsewhere.

In the end only Hattons will lose out, with other dealers all seeing a rise in their sales.  Farish/Bachmann might even see a rise in their profits as well as the other smaller dealers will not have the same buying discounts in place that Hattons had.

I have already moved all my Farish back pre-orders to another dealer and I am sure I am not alone.

Only time will tell if Hattons crumble and stop selling their models to other dealers, or if they will no longer sell Bachmann/Farish products.  Or if this ends up in court and a few corrupt solicitors get rich over it.
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woodbury22uk

Quote from: Paul-H on May 06, 2019, 08:26:45 AM

Only time will tell if Hattons crumble and stop selling their models to other dealers, or if they will no longer sell Bachmann/Farish products.  Or if this ends up in court and a few corrupt solicitors get rich over it.

Why do you think that Bachmann or Hattons would employ corrupt solicitors? Seems a peculiar allegation to me.
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Paul-H

It is my opinion through personal experience that the legal profession is corrupt and full of negligent individuals.

Just look at how many of our politicians used to be solicitors and barristers, and we know what we think of them.

To quote a famous author

What's the difference between a solicitor and a cat fish

Ones a bottom feeding scum sucker and the other is a fish.

Ok I am a little biased having lost my home trying to fight an inheitence theft at the hands of a corrupt solicitor only to find the legal profession is so corrupt they will do anything to protect their own.
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woodbury22uk

Quote from: Paul-H on May 06, 2019, 10:40:57 AM
It is my opinion through personal experience that the legal profession is corrupt and full of negligent individuals.


Ok, understand now, but still a sweeping generalisation, I think.
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RailGooner

Quote from: Paul-H on May 06, 2019, 10:40:57 AM
It is my opinion through personal experience that the legal profession is corrupt and full of negligent individuals.

Just look at how many of our politicians used to be solicitors and barristers, and we know what we think of them.

To quote a famous author

What's the difference between a solicitor and a cat fish

Ones a bottom feeding scum sucker and the other is a fish.

Ok I am a little biased having lost my home trying to fight an inheitence theft at the hands of a corrupt solicitor only to find the legal profession is so corrupt they will do anything to protect their own.

Anger and ire, much like a fully-automatic-machinegun, needs to be carefully aimed or innocent victims will result.

My FiL is a retired solicitor. To the best of my knowledge, when he was a practising solicitor he was never anything but rigorously professional, diligent and honest. As an individual he has flaws as some of us do, but his character is thoroughly free of deceit; truthful and sincere.

Chris Morris

I don't like solicitors and they do charge a lot for their services (as do many professionals). Having said that I am sure that the vast majority are good, honest people doing a specialist job that requires many years study to be allowed to be practiced. It is unfair to call them corrupt.

Involving legal people in any dispute will cost both parties dearly.
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Newportnobby

More to the point, and I'm no solicitor, some comments may be found libellous to anyone who is :hmmm:

railsquid

Probably best to stick to available facts, these putative solicitors burst into the thread on the tail of a speculative "if" and are not known to be involved.

guest311

regardless of solicitors [check a dictionary for the definition of 'solicit'  ;D]
it would be nice for us, the punters / customers / people with funds, if somebody, on either side, actually made clear what the problem is.

I have been a loyal customer of Hattons for many years / far too many £s, and it would be nice to find out exactly what is going on.

from what has been said on here, it would seem that the problem is Hattons selling their own models to other retailers, and hence becoming 'manufacturers' rather than 'retailers'.

is that all this spat is about, or is there more to it ?

come on Hattons / Bachmann, be honest so we know where we, and you, stand.

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I think we are veering way off topic, so let's have a breather
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Stuart Down Under

Email message from Hattons this morning;

Good morning,
You currently have an outstanding pre-order for the following:
Class C Wainwright 0-6-0 31227 in BR black with early emblem
Pack of three SECR 60 Birdcage coaches in BR vermillion
Conflat Wagon BR Bauxite (Early) With Pickfords BD Container [WL]

We are no longer able to fulfil this pre-order and have therefore cancelled the order on our system, and from your account.

Checking Bachmann's website, Hattons are no longer listed as a stockist!

Looks like Hattons have lost the battle.

:o



stuartgoble

I also had a similar email this morning and looking at my wishlist on the Hattons website, every one of the Farish items has been cancelled off.  Does this mean Hattons are no longer a reseller, what happened if anyone knows??

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