Import charges for the UK on goods from abroad post 1st Jan 2021

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swisstrains

Quote from: daffy on July 30, 2021, 04:26:35 PM
.......................... Does that mean no UK VAT will be due then on small value orders from MSL? That doesn't seem right. That would make MSL an attractive proposition for any new purchases below the £135 threshold, even after their €9.90 delivery charge,..................................

That's very true and is one of the reasons my stock has increased considerably since January. ::)

daffy

Time for some more new toys for me ahead of schedule then (just in case the situation changes, you understand). :thumbsup:

Now, where's that darned Credit Card gone? It was here a minute ago.  :hmmm:

(Memo to self: don't tell the wife the content of your chats on the Forum next time. :dunce: :doh:)
Mike

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maridunian

Quote from: maridunian on July 30, 2021, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: maridunian on April 29, 2021, 11:48:01 PM
Shapeways are now adding 20% VAT at checkout time for invoices totalling £135 (including p&p) or less.

Mike

UK 'expedited' shipping by UPS (there is no 'basic' shipping to the UK any more) is now $19.99+VAT - was $9.99+VAT last year.

Mike

Shapeways have reduced their shipping costs to the UK: Expedited (2-3 days) $14.99 (£10.88) or Express (1-2 days) $24.99 (£18.18).

I assume this is because UPS have been able to reduce their prices now things have settled down.

Mike
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ntpntpntp

I have a pre-order from a German shop, paid for in full back in June last year before all the post Brexit tax rules kicked in.   Obviously it included German VAT at that time.   

The loco's expected to become available this month according to the last updates (though I wouldn't be surprised if it's later), so my thoughts are turning to the question of VAT (it is over the £135 threshold):  Should I be entitled to and try to ask the shop to refund the German VAT when it ships, if they can't/won't then should UK VAT be applied on something that was paid for before the rule changes, and if UK VAT is applied should/can I try and claim it back (no idea how though)?
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swisstrains

Hi Nick. Is it from a dealer who is currently deducting German VAT from UK orders?

njee20

You will be eligible for UK VAT I'm sure. I'm not sure there's a mechanism for handling 'pre-orders', particularly 10 months later. To that end yes, I'd absolutely ask the German retailer for a refund on the German VAT.

ntpntpntp

Quote from: swisstrains on October 05, 2021, 09:04:01 PM
Hi Nick. Is it from a dealer who is currently deducting German VAT from UK orders?

Don't know, not used them before or again for anything else. 

https://citytoys.de/aid-8199-CTD-Exklusiv-Elektrolok-Baureihe-181-2-Nordliner-SEL-rot-beige-Spur-N-CTD-Elektrolok-BR-181-2-Nordliner-SEL-TEE-HNS2534.html#content

Quote from: njee20 on October 05, 2021, 09:14:17 PM
You will be eligible for UK VAT I'm sure. I'm not sure there's a mechanism for handling 'pre-orders', particularly 10 months later. To that end yes, I'd absolutely ask the German retailer for a refund on the German VAT.

I'm pretty much assuming I'll just "suck it up" in this instance.  Kind of don't want to sour the deal by asking and risk maybe the shop deciding they don't want to deal with UK buyers and cancelling the order (they'd have to refund me in full of course).
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swisstrains

Think positive Nick. It's a nice looking loco and well worth the extra VAT.
It also looks like you have now got until Feb 2022 to save up.

ntpntpntp

@swisstrains Yeah I like 181s, I have 2 or 3 of the old Roco models.
Where did you see Feb 2022 mentioned?
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swisstrains

Quote from: ntpntpntp on October 05, 2021, 10:03:43 PM
@swisstrains Yeah I like 181s, I have 2 or 3 of the old Roco models.
Where did you see Feb 2022 mentioned?

I followed this link at the bottom of the loco info page that you posted.

https://citytoys.de/wid-91-BR-181.2-SEL-Exklusiv-Modell.html#content

ntpntpntp

@swisstrains oh yeah, they updated that page but not the detail page.  Fair enough, I'll let this problem go back to sleep for a few months more then :) 

I wonder if the pre-order price will go up any more with all the price rises being advised by the manufacturers? It's already risen 99c since I ordered :D :D
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daffy

Two thoughts Nick:
You state you 'paid in full in June last year'. Was this actual payment, that is the full amount appeared on your statement from bank or credit card coy, or was it just a 'placeholder' where the seller takes the money only when they actually ship the item?

Secondly, you could try a dummy order now of the same item to see whether the invoiced amount now shows the German VAT or not. If it does I'm afraid the seller is like DM Toys and VAT gets whacked on by the UK as well if the cost exceeds £135, and no refund possibility of that 20%.

If it doesn't show German VAT, and there has been no actual payment take yet, then you might be okay, subject of course to the £135 UK limit for VAT at import.
Mike

Sufferin' succotash!

swisstrains

A possible reason to be cheerful.
I see that CDT ship with DHL (who then hand it over to Parcelforce in the UK). I have had parcels from Germany delivered by DHL/Parcelforce that have escaped the attention of HMRC even though their value was significantly greater than £135.
From what I have read (and my own experience) this rarely seems to happen with orders over £135 when the shipping is done by UPS.

ntpntpntp

@daffy   paid in full on my PayPal (I have screenshot the transaction just in case)

@swisstrains yeah I like DHL.   We'll see what happens next Feb :)

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Globibahn

Quote from: swisstrains on October 05, 2021, 09:48:01 PM
Think positive Nick. It's a nice looking loco and well worth the extra VAT.
It also looks like you have now got until Feb 2022 to save up.

I second this Nick. I remember ages back you saying you wanted one of these.

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