Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches

[Snowwolflair]

Four Caledonian Sleeper sets have now been listed alongside the two Trans Pennine Exprees sets mentioned previously.

http://www.revolutiontrains.com/product-category/ngauge/mark-5-coaches/

@red_death  ok what combinations make what trains please.

[jpendle]

Can these same coaches be used to form a Lowlander consist?

Thanks,

John P

[jpendle]

Four Caledonian Sleeper sets have now been listed alongside the two Trans Pennine Exprees sets mentioned previously.

http://www.revolutiontrains.com/product-category/ngauge/mark-5-coaches/

@red_death  ok what combinations make what trains please.

It says that all 4 sets are needed for the complete Highlander.

I'm wondering about the Lowlander as well though.

Regards,

John P

[monkey_brains]

Order in for both the TPE sets - can't wait - i'm sure they are going to be amazing 

[red_death]

The lowlander sets are not up yet as I ran out of time yesterday afternoon.

I'll get them up tomorrow.

There are formation diagrams on each item page. Basically all 4 packs will give you the full highlander.

Cheers Mike

[MacRat]

16 coaches? Wow.
According to Wikipedia the MK5 car is 22.2 meter long, times 16 is 355.2 meters, divided by 148 is 2.4 meter platform length w/o locomotive. 

For the locomotive I give 20 cm and additional 30 cm for clearance (15 cm front and rear) which gives a rough estimation for loop length / fiddle yard track / staging track of 2.9 meters.

That is .... just .... amazing, nice.
Why is the class 92 order book already closed? Now I'd like a Highlander set, just for the heck of it.

[Ben A]

That is .... just .... amazing, nice.

Why is the class 92 order book already closed? Now I'd like a Highlander set, just for the heck of it.

Hi MacRat,

Our Class 92 locomotives can still be obtained from selected retailers after production, and I don't think the Claledonian Sleeper 92s are sold out at all of them.

For those seeking more information about consists there is a dedicated Mk5/5a page here: https://wp.me/P5BA2j-4nT which includes a downloadable PDF showing the various Sleeper formations.

In short, the coaches for the Lowlander and Highlander trains are the same leaving Euston; the difference is how they are split when they reach Scotland, and in model terms the destination shown on the side-board.

Each 16-vehicle train comprises two distinct 8-vehicle parts:  one is known as single PRM (Passenger - Restricted Mobility) as it comprises Seated Car + Club Car + Accessible Sleeper + 5 Sleepers.  The other is double PRM as it is the same, but with 4 sleepers and two Accessible Sleepers.

The Lowlander divides at Carstairs; the single PRM set goes to Edinburgh, the double PRM set to Glasgow.

The Highlander divides at Edinburgh.  The single PRM set goes to Inverness.  The double PRM set is further split into portions for Fort William and Aberdeen.  The precise make up of these varies; in Summer most sleepers go to Fort William, in winter most go to Aberdeen, but each always has an Accessible Sleeper.

Also, an additional Sleeper and Club car are added to the Fort William set at Edinburgh.

Cheers

Ben A.

[crewearpley40]

thanks for that

hope it is a successful project. i did notice a class 90 in green freightliner livery hauling a late running mk3 set with mk2 lounge the other morning !! may have been standing in for a mk 5 set !!

[davidinyork]

The Mk3s are still in use on the highlander at the moment.

Given the reliability problems with the Mk5s, there might be a delay before the Mk3s are al replaced.

[Graham]

thanks for the explanations Ben & Mike, looks like I am definitely going back to work at this rate. looks like it is going to be every bit as spectacular as the Pendolino's.

cheers
Graham

[crewearpley40]

thanks to ben / mike, david in york, graham

[MacRat]

I've been looking for variation of locos pulling these and found this notice: https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2019/06/26-caledonian-sleeper-highlander-services-delayed.html

So we will see only later in the year what motive power / livery variants may appear outside of the current test runs. So far class 92 in GBRF and Caledonian livery. For delivery moves I've found class 66 with hoppers for brake force and class 37 with Rail Adventure cargowaggon and flats have been used.

[davidinyork]

I've been looking for variation of locos pulling these and found this notice: https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2019/06/26-caledonian-sleeper-highlander-services-delayed.html

Other than stock moves, it's only going to be 92s and 73/9s as no other locos are fitted with the required equipment to interface with the train management system on the stock.

The coaches don't have standard drawgear and are fitted with Dellner couplings. Therefore even stock moves will need barriers / adapters with most other locos, apart from the few which are fitted with Dellners specifically for stock moves (some of the 57/3s, some of ROG's 37s).

[jpendle]

So to do the Highlander from Euston to Edinburgh you need all 4 sets, but this includes the 2 coaches added at Edinburgh to the Fort William portion.

I'm assuming that the Lowlander will be offered as 2 x 8 coach book sets?

Regards,

John P

[Intercity]

I saw the consist pages and see the different sets, but will each coach be lettered in any way (underneath or included in the livery printing) so we can easily and correctly Marshall the consists?