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#61
N Gauge Discussion / Re: A British domestic train f...
Last post by Chris Morris - February 22, 2024, 12:56:58 PM
I reckon for £350 total outlay this sight is a bargain.
#62
N Gauge Discussion / Re: A British domestic train f...
Last post by ntpntpntp - February 22, 2024, 12:53:59 PM
Quote from: Chris Morris on February 22, 2024, 12:38:05 PM... neither of my 800s are the best at really really smooth stops and starts. They are perfectly acceptable but I do have a number of Farish and Dapol that are just a little bit better.

Have you tried them on a Kato SX controller?  My 800 came with one, and I have to say it does match Kato mechanisms very well, in fact it gives great results with just about everything old and new that I've tried so far.   

I am tempted to investigate converting a couple of SXs to handheld units for exhibition use, taking over from my old KPC controllers which whilst great do cause one or two of the modern far east mechanisms in my collection to jerk a bit.
#63
N Gauge Discussion / Re: A British domestic train f...
Last post by Chris Morris - February 22, 2024, 12:38:05 PM
Quote from: njee20 on January 12, 2024, 12:24:31 PMNo, I agree, the prices will of course continue rising, but I'm ok with where the prices are (and where they're heading). If you don't want super detailed stuff there are older models around, with a buoyant second hand market. I don't want Kato's "lower cost, lower detail" approach to be the norm. YMMV. Reminds me, I wonder if I can get a replacement windscreen for my 800 on this production run, as one fell out of mine, not clip together enough!  :worried:

I'm very happy with Kato's lower cost, lower detail approach. To my mind the older Farish models are not great and I wouldn't want to own most of them, In fact I haven't bought any, except for a couple of very cheap 158s. On the other hand I rate the Kato 800 as a wonderful model. How do I justify that? Well firstly it just looks right running along; it captures the look of the real thing very well indeed. The detail is good enough for when it is in motion. Yes the connectors between coaches are non existent and the connector boxes are very poor.  I painted my connector boxes black which I think makes for a worthwhile improvement. The worst part about the Kato 800 is the bright white roof and corridor ends. I have toned these down with a bit of weathering and I think that is enough to reduce it's toy like look and make it more of a convincing model. I do the same with pretty much every other piece of stock. I like to get the whole look right and to me a slightly weathered roof is more important than the nth degree of detail. The Kato 800 is a good, lively runner and stays on the track extremely well which is another strong point in its favour. On the other hand neither of my 800s are the best at really really smooth stops and starts. They are perfectly acceptable but I do have a number of Farish and Dapol that are just a little bit better. I would prefer lower gearing on the 800 but I can see why giving it a high top speed is a good thing for such a model. I also love the way two can be joined together to make a 5+5 unit.
#64
N Gauge Discussion / Re: A British domestic train f...
Last post by njee20 - February 22, 2024, 10:30:27 AM
Kato have form on the inside bearings - their Amfleet coaches roll very well. Their approach has been rather different to Farish (on the Voyager)/Revolution in that they use a 'clamshell' type design, which retains the axle, rather than having the wheelset clip in to a moulded part of the bogie.



Kato -> Farish -> Dapol.

Given it's only 4 bogies on a 9-car train I'm sure they'll be great.
#65
N Gauge Discussion / Re: A British domestic train f...
Last post by Steven B - February 22, 2024, 09:07:59 AM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 21, 2024, 04:14:38 PMGaugemaster have published some Kato photos of the new coaches for the 9 car sets.

https://mailchi.mp/gaugemaster/kato-release-new-images-for-9-car-class-800?e=dd155d2c05

That link's from their newsletter and didn't open for me. The news item on their website should work:

https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/news/article/view/id/1731/

It'll be interesting to see how the inside bearings compare to Revolution's Mk5s bogies.

Steven B
#66
N Gauge Discussion / Re: Farish Spring 2024 Announc...
Last post by icairns - February 21, 2024, 11:05:53 PM
Here is my modest tribute to D1733 and the XP64 train. 


I looked up D1733 in one of my old abc combined volumes above and was interested to see a couple of things: 

1.    There is a photo of D1733 (bottom left below) where the experimental blue livery is noted.  However, the photo appears to show a separate yellow warning panel on the cabside of the loco without the double arrow BR logo.  It is difficult to determine the colour of this cabside panel as the photo is in black & white. 

2.    Based on railway magazines of the time, I used to cross out locos that had been withdrawn.  This obviously mostly applied to steam locos.  Therefore, I was curious to note that sister engine D1734 had been crossed out in my abc. 

It turns out that D1734 was involved on the Colton Hill rail crash on 11 January, 1964 and was subsequently scrapped.  The loco was only 8 months old.  More information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coton_Hill_rail_crash

Ian


#67
N Gauge Discussion / Re: Dapol locomotive conrod bo...
Last post by hoppy504 - February 21, 2024, 10:24:56 PM
I should like to thank Alex for his help in supplying a spanner I was looking for.
#68
N Gauge Discussion / Re: Show your Latest GB Loco a...
Last post by Trainfish - February 21, 2024, 07:03:54 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on February 21, 2024, 03:11:01 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 21, 2024, 02:28:03 PMI think all posts regarding the class 59 should be banned until I at least receive the balance invoice for my three on order  :*(

Ok I won't post about my FY 59001 then  :P  :P  :P

Regards

Neal.

I already knew about yours so it doesn't count. My lesson learnt is to pay in full next time although that would have been a big chunk out of my beer kitty for all 3.
#69
N Gauge Discussion / Re: A British domestic train f...
Last post by woodbury22uk - February 21, 2024, 04:14:38 PM
Gaugemaster have published some Kato photos of the new coaches for the 9 car sets.

https://mailchi.mp/gaugemaster/kato-release-new-images-for-9-car-class-800?e=dd155d2c05

#70
N Gauge Discussion / Re: Show your Latest GB Loco a...
Last post by Roy L S - February 21, 2024, 03:15:55 PM
Arrived today, Bachmann "Collectors Club" experimental XP64 livery Class 47 (Or Brush Type 4 as it was called back then). This is the "Sound Fitted" version.

The newly tooled 47 is a lovely model and nice to have a Collector's Club loco in a transition livery, albeit a quirky experimental one. It'll do nicely until the BR Green ones eventually arrive, and I'll definitely be having one of those too  :)

Oh, and the sound is excellent, great sound file and plenty loud enough  :thumbsup:

Roy



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