Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches

Started by njee20, February 11, 2019, 01:37:25 PM

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Spanners70

My trans pennine set arrived yesterday, what works of art in minuture well done Mike Ben and revolution, look amazing.
On the track, gentle nudge if the finger, the dcc runs amazing as free as any coach from Dapol farish etc, the other 4 are similar to my 8 sleepers. Gentle nudge the dvd will roll a good 20-30 cm, all the other ps (12 mm 5) maybe 10cm with a similar nudge.

In the sleepers, I've had every axle out pulled both wheels off each axle bearings off all cleaned up put back together. Slightly loosened eachbogie screw as a common fix, marginal improvement. I'm now baffled how the dvt rolls so beautifully yet the others don't. Did try the online form on revolution website but no reply with the sleepers.
Anyone any other thoughts or ideas ? I did notice on the tpe set looks like the plastic centre of the axles look a little shorter than the sleepers, but doesn't give a clue why the dvt runs so differently.
Great fan of what revolution team are doing, and totally appreciate they go all out to sort issues ( including 72 replacement axles for one of there wagon sets) but a bit stumped on these coaches, bit of a shame as the tpe set in particular look amazing

Ben A

Quote from: Spanners70 on January 20, 2024, 09:10:08 AMGentle nudge the dvd will roll a good 20-30 cm, all the other ps (12 mm 5) maybe 10cm with a similar nudge.

Hi there,

Obvs it's the weekend now, but if you email our support line I am sure our customer services manager Simon will come back to you asap.

Also, even if the coaches aren't all that free running I suspect the Dapol 68 would have no problem with them. Mine have pretty good haulage.

cheers

Ben A.



Spanners70

Thanks Ben. Anyone got the email address for Simon in support? Searching the website it's just the online form and whenever I use this never get a reply. And I'm not at home due work so cannot see if it's on the paperwork with the mk5's. On the plus, seeing how well my dvt rolls is Great it means there's no reason the rest shouldn't just got to figure out the difference between that one and the other 12 mk5's.

Ben A

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Hi all,

For any Revolution products the email address in the instructions is the one to use first.

And like any business our emails tend to be monitored during working hours. 

Cheers

Ben A.



woodbury22uk

Quote from: Spanners70 on January 20, 2024, 05:23:11 PMThanks Ben. Anyone got the email address for Simon in support? Searching the website it's just the online form and whenever I use this never get a reply. And I'm not at home due work so cannot see if it's on the paperwork with the mk5's. On the plus, seeing how well my dvt rolls is Great it means there's no reason the rest shouldn't just got to figure out the difference between that one and the other 12 mk5's.

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Spanners70

Thanks, I'm out the country for next 5 days so reading  instructions isn't an optio. Will send an email off to them

Portpatrick

Quote from: Spanners70 on January 21, 2024, 06:28:09 PMThanks, I'm out the country for next 5 days so reading  instructions isn't an optio. Will send an email off to them

I bought the 4 coach "Deerstalker" rake of sleepers.  I found when I unclipped the wheels that some of the seatings had a burr.  A very careful pass with a round needle file dealt with that and improved free running.  I had also queried how the lighting behaved - it would not stay off.  I must say that I had an answer within a few hours, all credit to Simon.  My issue arises only with DC operation!  Anyway since I am not DCC or bothered by lighting I removed the brass pick ups from the bogies while I had the axles off.  I stress I have stored them safely so I can put them back if I ever sell the coaches.  But not having them has improved the rolling resistance.   My Dapol 73, with Adam Warr's vinyl sides in Caledonian Teal Blue now copes easily on sharp curves.   So if anyone does not want working lights this is a part solution.

jpendle

My 2 TPE sets arrived this week plus some new wheelsets for my Caley Sleeper coaches.

At first I thought I was going to have major problems when my TPE liveried CL68 wouldn't pull or push the coaches over the slightest bump on my not so flat track work.

After some experimentation it turns out I have 2 duff CL68's  >:( one of which was the TPE liveried one.

Here's one of my sets running at speed with a good CL68.


Unfortunately a CL68 was harmed in the making of this video, on my first attempt the entire rake derailed and the propelling CL68 hit the floor, so I now have 3 duff CL68's  :veryangry:

All 3 have the same issue which is that the bogies have come loose from the worm gear assembly, I've posted seperately asking for help on how to fix this issue.

For my Caley sleepers I received new wheelsets which I have swapped for the old ones, now my CL92 can just about manage 8 coaches on the flat, so it looks like double heading with a 'failed' 92 in the rake will be the way to go.

UNLESS, and I'm just floating this as an idea, there would be any merit in having Revolution develop a motorised chassis for the MK5A's which could then added to one or more coaches giving one or two more "locos" in the consist to get a 16 coach rake moving??

Regards,

John P
Check out my layout thread.

Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39501.msg476247#msg476247

And my Automation Thread

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=52597.msg687934#msg687934

Graham

have you added any weight to the 92's, I have just received the new wheelsets and have found a single 92 will pull them on the flat straight track, but all of my 92's have almost an extra 10g of weight added.
Also you may want to run them with the new wheelsets for a while I have found they definitely free up with a lot of running.

jpendle

Well I'm pleased to report that I've been able to fix all 3 CL68's. They can all push or pull a TPE rake but one of them insists on derailing as it goes over straight points when propelling the train.

Now I need to get to work running in my sleepers.

Regards,

John P
Check out my layout thread.

Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39501.msg476247#msg476247

And my Automation Thread

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=52597.msg687934#msg687934

jpendle

Quote from: Graham on February 11, 2024, 06:19:07 AMhave you added any weight to the 92's, I have just received the new wheelsets and have found a single 92 will pull them on the flat straight track, but all of my 92's have almost an extra 10g of weight added.
Also you may want to run them with the new wheelsets for a while I have found they definitely free up with a lot of running.

I haven't added any weight to my CL92's. Looking with the bodyshell off I'm not even sure where you've managed to squeeze any additional weight in at all.

Regards,

John P
Check out my layout thread.

Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39501.msg476247#msg476247

And my Automation Thread

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=52597.msg687934#msg687934

Graham

I will take some pics in the next couple of days and post so you can see.
cheers
Graham

StufromEGDL

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Hi Gang;

Been away for a few days, so catching up....

Is there now a known issue with CS wheelsets, prompting a replacement batch? Comments above seem to indicate that some customers with problem coaches have now received new wheelsets..... I know that despite fettling , a lot of running and swapping of wheelsets around, some coaches remain stubbornly stiff. It is obvious from the TPE sets that the centre sleeve is considerably shorter that those on the CS Mk5s.
My next experiment will be to find the four most reticent Mk5s and swap the wheelsets in their entirety for the TPE wheelsets to see if there is a noticeable difference.

later;
STU from NRSW
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/swidnod/

I always find things in the last place I look. weird huh??

Graham

just contact Simon at Revolution and he will send out new sets for you.
cheers
Graham

njee20

I keep meaning to try adding weight to a 92, definitely interested to see how/where you've done that Graham.

Plenty of examples of a 92 being moved DIT, so it's not entirely atypical, it's the conclusion I've reached too.

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