dear all, for many years I have stored stock and locos in the JB foam trays, which protect the items, take up much less space than the original packaging, and ar sodding good value.
but, the other day, a mate pointed out that I had stored my stock on it's side, not 'standing' on it's wheels.
my view is that when you get a new loco it is 99% of the time packed on it's side, but he thought it would be better to store upright, worrying that excess oil on locos could damage body shells if on their sides.
any views, preferences, experiences ?
Hi
I use the same foam trays and have always stored my stock on its wheels.
Cheers
Paul
I store locos and passenger carrying coaches (i.e. passenger trains) and Parcels wagons in their original boxes, and wagons, departmental stock and the like in JB Foam trays, for ease of handling the many wagons in a train.
I have never had a problem with locomotives on their side if they are properly supported and you get that best in the original boxes (apart from the very old Poole Farish ones where the plastic would fail in time).
I dont think oil will significantly damage loco bodies (but they will need a clean afterwards) but oil could possibly degrade the foam, leaving you with bits of foam stuck to the loco.
HTH
Bob
many thanks for your inputs.
my preference for JB trays and on their sides is that trays can then be stacked, whereas if locos & stock are on their wheels, they prevent this as the trays are not deep enough.
I have used Parkwood arts "Park N go" cases for my locos for a number of years now as the foam is much firmer and the locos can be stored upright, and I cut the foam away around the valve gear of steam locos if it is needed. (see below)
https://parkwood-arts.co.uk/product/park-n-go-model-rail-case/
I use JB's foam trays for coaches and wagons.
Regards,
Alex
I use the JB foam trays in three layers within Really Useful 9l boxes. I store all stock on its wheels, and the foam easily conforms to the small excess height of locos, coaches, etc.
Another vote for on the wheels.
Locos stored in their original boxes, in cases arranged so that they're on their wheels when the cases are stacked on a shelf where they spend most of the time.
Other stock stored in custom built stock trays and stock boxes, typically on their sides to prevent rolling around.
Quote from: class37025 on December 10, 2018, 04:49:33 PM
but he thought it would be better to store upright, worrying that excess oil on locos could damage body shells if on their sides.
If the locos have oil that will run onto the side of the loco if it is stored on its side then it has been over oiled. You should only need a minimal amount of oil on the gears and therefore there should be no danger of getting oil on the bodywork.
Also if you use the manufacturers recommend oil it should cause no damage in case you do over oil the locos
JB foam trays have wagons on their wheels. Locos in the main kept in their original boxes. However, I am putting sets, e.g. HSTs into Kato storage boxes so on their sides. Just done two Dapol sets and determined that I have two FGW Dynamic coaches over, I am limiting sets to two plus six or two plus five! I also have Hawksworth coach set in a Kato box and a Collet set in another.
Each to their own :D
Locos stored in JB foam on wheels and kept in a metal A4 set of storage draws.
Rolling stock in large JB foam briefcase style containers on their sides.
Works for me.... :beers:
Evening all
I use KR Multicase and they offer two types of trays one laying stock on its side the other upright. They are very similar to JB but in my opinion are superior in design as they come with a stock box too, but they are not cheap.
Link https://www.krmulticase.com/trayguide/NGAS (https://www.krmulticase.com/trayguide/NGAS)
Regards Stuart
I use a long storage box, about 2' 8" long by 10 " wide in which I have 3 trays on each of which I can store 6 cassettes each taking 6 Maunsell coaches or more shorter cassettes with shorter rakes e.g. 2x3 coach or a 4 coach and 2 coach also various freight sets and locos; I could fit more than 6 cassettes across, but need to leave some space to get my fingers in to lift them out, I'm working at making clip on "handles" to aid lifting out and allowing 1 or 2 more cassettes per tray: the 2 upper trays and the lid have sheet foam glued underneath to hold the stock on the tray below in place. I have a couple of modified rerailers which fit onto the ends of cassettes so in theory it should be lift out cassette place on track with rerailer in place and away we go, sod's law however will strike on occasion and a coach or two become derailed in the cassette.
Quote from: Dorsetmike on December 10, 2018, 09:13:45 PM
I use a long storage box, about 2' 8" long by 10 " wide in which I have 3 trays on each of which I can store 6 cassettes each taking 6 Maunsell coaches or more shorter cassettes with shorter rakes e.g. 2x3 coach or a 4 coach and 2 coach also various freight sets and locos; I could fit more than 6 cassettes across, but need to leave some space to get my fingers in to lift them out, I'm working at making clip on "handles" to aid lifting out and allowing 1 or 2 more cassettes per tray: the 2 upper trays and the lid have sheet foam glued underneath to hold the stock on the tray below in place. I have a couple of modified rerailers which fit onto the ends of cassettes so in theory it should be lift out cassette place on track with rerailer in place and away we go, sod's law however will strike on occasion and a coach or two become derailed in the cassette.
Where do you get the cassettes from, or do you make them yourself? If so, I'd like to see them.
:thumbsup:
All locos stored in original boxes on their sides. DMUs stored in original boxes in an upright position. Coaches/wagons stored in original boxes on end in cheapo fold down plastic boxes ex DIY sheds. Only loose rolling stock items bought from club stands at shows are stored in the JB boxes
QuoteWhere do you get the cassettes from, or do you make them yourself? If so, I'd like to see them.
I use plastic trunking intended for running cables, similar to this but preferably without the self adhexive, I use 25mm from Homebase, 32mm would be better, but not much about, mostly 25 or 38.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adhesive-Trunking-Plastic-Electrical-Conduit/dp/B07FCQR9GX/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1544480978&sr=8-10&keywords=electrical%2Btrunking%2Bwhite&th=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adhesive-Trunking-Plastic-Electrical-Conduit/dp/B07FCQR9GX/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1544480978&sr=8-10&keywords=electrical%2Btrunking%2Bwhite&th=1)
In original boxes, on their sides, and ends. Have done for close to 2 decades.
There is simply no issue here - if there's so much oil that it'll run then the model is vastly over-oiled in the first place.
I wouldn't worry about it, and carry on as you are.
Cheers,
Alan
Most locos spend months on their sides in their original packaging before purchase, so no qualms there.
I use KR Multicase with stock on its side. For locos I put strips of overhanging freezer bag plastic into the tray slots to make removal easier.
I like to see my stock on display on the layout. The ones that I haven´t space for I keep in Mill Lane sidings cassettes which I think are excellent and I enjoyed building.
http://www.mill-lane-sidings.co.uk/mlscassette.html (http://www.mill-lane-sidings.co.uk/mlscassette.html)
Like Dr Al, I keep all my locos in their original boxes which are then stored in Really Useful mobile drawer units.
Usually laid on their sides so I can find what I'm looking for pretty quickly. It's not caused a problem so far.
Dave G
I tend to keep locos in their original boxes and stock in foam trays.
I too store my locomotives in their original boxes, on their side for the most part, never had any problems.
(Rolling stock I prefer to store in "bookcase" packaging, as available from Kato etc., as I can source it cheaply and it makes it easier to get out/put away stock).
dear all,
:thankyousign: for all your comments.
I take on board the comments about over oiling, each new loco has been test run, body stripped, cleaned and lubricated with any excess removed.
as it is coming up to the time when all locos etc need test running, I've decided to go with ...
on side, with clear film under/ round locos on their sides, with two layers of foam trays fitting in the new boxes I'm using.
labels on box end listing unit numbers.
old blue boxes from JB now swapping to holding wargames units... oh a whole platoon of apcs, plus figures on bases will fit in one box, or two platoons of figures plus trucks if not apcs.
again, thank you for your comments and advice.
regards
alan
My Locos are kept in their original boxes stored upright.
The reason for storing upright is that from experience, locos stored upright are less prone to pickup issues than those stored on their side.
This is because of the lack of springiness of the brass used for Bachmann pickups and if the loco is left laying on it's side for a prolonged time it does distort resulting in bias to the side that is taking all the weight... The 03, 04 & 14 diesels seem to be particularly prone to this...
Quote from: PLD on December 11, 2018, 08:23:34 PM
The reason for storing upright is that from experience, locos stored upright are less prone to pickup issues than those stored on their side.
This is because of the lack of springiness of the brass used for Bachmann pickups
Learn something new every day! Thanks!
I use the foam trays supplied by Ten Commandments.
They fit inside a Really Useful Box plastic box, two layers to the 4 litre size and four layers to the 9 litre size. I only use the 2 litre size for locos. Each layer will take nine large or up to eighteen smaller locos, stored on their wheels. The plastic boxes sit on a shelf at home and will go inside a large supermarket "bag for life" four deep to go out to a show.
Underneath each loco is a piece of paper with its identity, mostly to ensure each loco is accounted for at the end of a show.
I find that with the Really Useful boxes having a good locking handle at each end it is more likely to survive rough handling than my previous boxes, which twice failed to stay closed when dropped onto an exhibition hall floor by a (now former) member of my operating team. I still have a queue of locos to go to BR Lines or DCC Supplies for sorting.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/13/main_31412.jpg)
The pic shows about two thirds of my Pacifics lined up on top of one of the Really Useful boxes. The securing handles are just about visible.
Hope this ramble helps.
Les
Quote from: Les1952 on December 20, 2018, 10:14:08 AM
I find that with the Really Useful boxes having a good locking handle at each end it is more likely to survive rough handling than my previous boxes, which twice failed to stay closed when dropped onto an exhibition hall floor.
That happened to the guy on the layout behind us at the last show I exhibited at a couple of weekends ago. Packing up time, there was an almighty crash and bits of OO DCC diesels all over the place :'(
If you are a fan of the 'Book' style storage system then old VHS cases with a piece of foam suitably trimmed are very useful, especially for locos or other rolling stock which have been purchased s/h without the original boxes.