This is the list of Oxford Diecast models announced but not yet delivered at 1 January 2017:-
NAEC014 AEC Matador Wrecker - Southdown Sept 2017
NAP003 Austin Princess (Late) - Carlton Grey/Lt Grey Sept 2017
NBED003 Bedford J1 Ambulance - Dublin April 2017
NCMP001 CMP - 1st Canadian Infantry Division Sept 2017
NCMP007 CMP - Southdown Sept 2017
NCOR3001 Cortina MkIII - Gold Sept 2017
*NDSC001 Daimler Dingo - 23rd Armoured Brigade Sept 2017*
NFARM001 Livestock Trailer Sept 2017
NFARM002 Farm Trailer Sept 2017
NFARM003 Baler Sept 2017
NFT001 Ford Transit SWB Low Roof - White Q1/2017 *
NIRZ005 Irizar PB - White March 2017
NLAN188010 Land Rover Series 1 - Rover Fire Brigade April 2017 *
NLRT003 Leyland Royal Tiger - W Alexander 01/2017
NMA001 Mercedes Ambulance - Wales Sept 2017
NMB002 Mercedes Actros Curtainside artic - Pollock Sept 2017
NMGB001 MGB Roadster - Tartan Red Sept 2017*
NMN006 Mini - M & S Floral August 2017
NMOS005 Morris Minor Saloon - Police Panda June 2017
NNMN001 New Mini - Chili Red Sept 2017*
NNR002 New Routemaster - Go Ahead London Central 02/2017
NNR003 New Routemaster - London United Q2/2017
NNR004CC New Routemaster - London United/Coca July 2017
NPB005 Commer PB van - London Fire November 2017
NPP005 Panorama 1 - Sheffield United Tours April 2017
NSET003 5 Piece bus/coach set – Southdown Sept 2017
NSET004 5 Piece Bus Set - London Transport 01/2017
NSHL01CT Scania Highline D-TEC Combitrailer - Container Eddie Stobart Oct 2017*
NSHL01ST Scania Highline Nooteboom 3 axle Semi Low Loader - Stobart Rail 02/2017 *
NVOL4006 Volvo FH4 Walking Floor - A W Jenkinson Sept 2017
NVWB004 VW Beetle - Anthracite 01/2017
NWFA001 Weymann Fanfare coach AEC - South Wales November 2017*
Items in red are now delivered.
I have updated it for the three items which will be delivered over next few days:-
NLRT003 Leyland Royal Tiger - W Alexander
NSET004 5 Piece Bus Set - London Transport (this set includes NNR002 New Routemaster not yet released as an individual item)
NVWB004 VW Beetle - Anthracite
Oxford Diecast will be at the London Toy Fair between 24-26 January at Olympia in West Kensington, London. I expect the next planned items to be announced over the preceding weekend on the Oxford Diecast Collectors Facebook Group when Oxford MD Lyndon Davies makes his appearance on the Group.
There is a substantial backlog of items still to be delivered from 2016 announcements, in spite of a much reduced new item announcement programme in October 2016. Many earlier items have been rerun over the past few months but equally many of the planned newly tooled items have not been seen even as raw mouldings yet.
I will try to keep the list up to date as the year advances.
New items announced this evening on the Oxford Diecast Collectors Facebook group by Lyndon Davies, MD of Oxford Diecast.
NBED006 Bedford JI Ambulance Army Medical Services August 2017
NCT005 Citroen 2CV Plum/Custard November 2017
NFG007 Foden FG 8 Wheel Flatbed Blue Circle - Released July 2017
NFG008 Foden FG Round Tanker John Houston - Released July 2017
NFG009 Foden FG 8 Wheel Dropside H E Payne August 2017
NFG010 Foden FG Tipper Hoveringham August 2017
NFG011 Foden FG Dray Fremlins August/2017
NFG012 Foden FG Oval Tanker Isherwoods - Released July 2017
NMB004 Mercedes Actros D-TEC Combitrailer Trailer John Mitchell Q2/2017
NSHL02WF Scania Highline Walking Floor Stobart Biomass November 2017
In addition there is a Burlingham Seagull coach which will probably be NBSC001.
Oxford have had some tooling issues with various items which are now resolved. First shots have been shown on the Facebook group. There were a dozen models being tooled as a group, and issues with the shape of the MGB ended up delaying the whole tooling suite.
The Facebook Group is members-only. https://www.facebook.com/groups/282491821467/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/282491821467/)
I note the new so called Mini (well the real ones are hardly minis). That I would buy. There is a district shortage of decent ordinary current cars (say 2005 on) in the UK scale - things like the Focus, Mondeo, Vectra, Astra, Polo etc the sort of thing ordinary people, buy. I have a couple of Toyotas from tomytec, a first generation Galaxy, a Mercedes A class, and a current Beetle but that is more or less it.
The 1/160 scale stuff from the likes of Herpa, Busch, Reizte and others includes more modern image items, and they are not too far out of UK scale if carefully placed. However, they are pricey by comparison and some are of questionable quality. I've bought a few selected items at this scale, and so far I am pleased with the models, but careful study of online photos was needed to weed out the rubbish.
I fail to see why Oxford show so little inclination to produce more modern cars in N. Perhaps if I live long enough............ :)
Might difficulties acquiring licensing agreements be one reason for the dearth of modern models? Though Oxford do lots of modern in larger scales, so obviously not. Are they just not convinced there's a volume market in N? But the Stobart lorries keep coming - are Stobart subsidising those?
I dunno, just thinking in type. :confused2:
Just can't be bothered seems more like it :unimpressed:
The number of times the lack of 70s, 80s and 90s cars comes up as a topic on this forum and yet they continue to churn out the more obscure stuff from earlier decades instead ???
Paul
I thought Oxford's main man was on record as saying along the lines of we make what we know will sell - come to us with serious ideas/funding and we will do it for you?
Reading the questions and comments over the past few hours reminds me of a similar discussion on RMWeb late last year.
I believe there are several strands which are preventing more modern cars coming to market, some of which also dissuade the introduction of ordinary cars from earlier eras.
First and foremost of these is licensing. Oxford have been to Court over a copyright issue, and won their case, sort of. But the absorption of management time and financial cost would not encourage a repeat of this. Even though they won the case, this was at the heart of the withdrawal of their range of Chipperfields vehicles in 1/43, 1/76 and the single horsebox in 1/148. They have concluded wide ranging licensing agreements with some manufacturers such as Aston Martin, Jaguar Land Rover, Rolls Royce, Bentley, JCB, and Eddie Stobart. The impact of this is clearly visible in the 1/76 range where virtually every current model from Aston Martin, Jaguar and Land Rover is available or planned, with historic models being added as time and cost allow for creation of the CADs. For the current models the makers' CADs are used as the starting point so allow much quicker tooling. Older BMWs, Volvos etc. are also being added to the range in 1/76 which is also a mark of the availability of CADs, although not always direct from the manufacturers. Licensing agreements with some companies are very slow to conclude. The JCB licence in 1/76 has taken the whole of this decade to conclude. The Ford licences have also proved particularly onerous, and the modern Transit van and Transit Connect took an age to conclude. The Ford licensing is on a model by model basis, and each scale is licensed separately. Although Ford has made CADs generally available for the 3D printing market, the licensing attached to these is onerous, and not for commercial volumes of the railway market.
Secondly comes the market volumes. There are established collector markets in 1/43, 1/50 and 1/76, but not in 1/148. As with model trains, road vehicle volumes in 1/148 are markedly lower than in the larger scales. There are also themed markets in the larger scales such as collectors of all things VW, Mini, 2CV, Morris Minor, police, fire, military, bus, haulage company, RAC, AA, Post Office, BR, Railtrack/Network Rail, etc. 1/148 scale benefits from these markets too, so a collector of Post Office vehicles, for example, may collect across several scales. Boring as another Ford Transit re-livery might be, it addresses a market where the sustainable volume is greater than the run of the mill N gauge model train buyers can muster. The Oxford market-model seems to be based on a minimum of 4 issues of 3000 each colour/livery, and these volumes seem not to be available for 1/148 N for most car types. Add to this the car model changes over the past 70 years since rail nationalisation, and every era has its preferences. 3 x Ford Anglia, 6 x Ford Escort, 4 x Ford Focus (soon) so 13 different shapes to fragment the market, albeit the life of a car can span several decades.
Finally there is commercial reality. Oxford operates in a range of scales and in 1/76 covers numerous segmented markets. Its investment priority is based on returns that can be achieved. We had a recent attempt to stimulate interest in cars launched by DJModels. Whatever the failing of the "marketing" of this project there was nowhere near the volume of interest needed to continue the project. Oxford have been open to commissions, but their required volumes of 12000 per mould minimum seem not to stack up even for commissioners with experience of the 1/148 N market, especially where the licensing time/cost are factored in. There does not seem to be anyone with deep enough pockets or time resources to break in.
Everything I have written here is just my take on things. The Oxford volume for commissions is based on evidence provided confidentially by potential commissioners.
Reflecting on this has also highlighted the double edged sword represented by the N Gauge Society Carflat editions. A full load of 4 cars per flat adds around £20 per wagon to the cost, so an additional £440 per 20 wagon train in Ford Cortina Mk3s, for example. It should mean that the Oxford Cortina is a rapid sell-out in whatever colours it comes in. If it is not, then I would not expect Oxford to repeat the experiment for later eras.
Thanks Mike for your extremely detailed and instructive view of the small model car market. I can see the logic and the constraints and now appreciate why things are as they are.
Your points seem reflected in the output of the foreign manufacturers I mentioned too, as much of their ranges at N scale is limited to a few manufacturers. For the European makers, this shows in the number of variations on a theme of Sprinter van, recent Mercedes cars, and VW's ancient and (a few) modern that dominate their ranges.
I shall dream on of seeing a Ford Focus, or anything modern from Vauxhall, Honda, and so many others, though I fear it will long be just that, a dream.
Quote from: daffy on January 24, 2017, 08:47:12 AM
I shall dream on of seeing a Ford Focus, or anything modern from Vauxhall, Honda, and so many others, though I fear it will long be just that, a dream.
At least there are some 3D printed alternatives, and the quality is typically good. I am going to ask this designer if any of his can be shrunk to 1/148.
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/digitawn (https://www.shapeways.com/shops/digitawn)
drawings of new vehicles here
http://www.gaugemaster.com/search_results.asp?searchstring=brand~~645~~brand%20dtcf~~2017-01-20~~dtcf%20dtct~~2017-01-25~~dtct+scale~~n~~scale (http://www.gaugemaster.com/search_results.asp?searchstring=brand~~645~~brand%20dtcf~~2017-01-20~~dtcf%20dtct~~2017-01-25~~dtct+scale~~n~~scale)
Lorries with multi-axle trailers are not a problem from most manufacturers, with modern Scania and Mercedes examples abounding. With large flat sided trailers festooned with advertising, the reasons are clear.
For all vehicles my view is that what makes a good model, besides accuracy in design and good execution in manufacture, is the presence of good, well fitted windows. The problem at present with the poorer models is often the window representations, and for laser printers producing clear windows will present difficulties, not just in production, but in cost.
We shall have to wait and see. In the meantime I shall have to continue with my thoughts for my Swiss-based layout with its roads populated mainly by German-designed cars and vans, some very large artics, and a lot of folks indulging in that common Alpine pastime (truly), the classic car rally.
From the OM newsletter
The eagerly awaited new 1:148 are now tooled and 1st shots will be on view at the London/Nurnberg Toy Fairs:
CMP
Daimler Dingo
Weymann Fanfare
Burlingham Seagull
New Mini
Cortina MK III
Austin Princess Late
MGB Roadster
Livestock Trailer
Farm Trailer
Baler
Merc Ambulance
The new catalogue is available to view and download here:-
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/3257/files/FEB-MAY_17_low_res.pdf?11682100474110524242
The N items are on pages 31-37, and p43.
This is a big file to download and may be a slow download if the site is very busy.
Quote from: RailGooner on January 23, 2017, 11:10:09 PM
But the Stobart lorries keep coming - are Stobart subsidising those?
One thing to remember is there is a MASSIVE following for Stobart, so naturally they know that they can sell a large amount of them no matter what scale they are in.
This is a regular comment, that usually ties in with a whinge or 2, on the oxford groups with people complaining that the first release is always in Eddie livery but if they know that the tooling is half paid from that model, then logic says that they will make it.
The car transporter that was released last year in 00, has sold out so they have bumped the second stobart one as there is still demand for it.
I'm not complaining though as it will add to my mini Stobart depot that is planned on the layout.
Alistair
Quote from: alibuchan on January 25, 2017, 08:13:53 PM
One thing to remember is there is a MASSIVE following for Stobart,
Unless you ask anyone that's ever been involved in the haulage industry :censored:
Paul
Are you suggesting Mr Tinklers green and white armada aren't highly regarded by other haulage firms paul??
I would definitely agree with you we know of first hand experience of their staff and the ruthlessness of it all.
Quote from: alibuchan on January 25, 2017, 08:13:53 PM
.. I'm not complaining though ...
Me neither Alistair. Indeed I'm really looking forward to the Stobart Rail Nooteboom rig, amongst other items.
Quote from: exmouthcraig on January 25, 2017, 09:02:26 PM
Are you suggesting Mr Tinklers green and white armada aren't highly regarded by other haulage firms paul??
Other drivers too. Put it this way - if some of these "enthusiasts" knew the tactics employed by their transport company of choice they might see the stark reality behind the image :zippedmouth:
Spent enough time driving trucks to find out the awful truth!
Paul
Indeed
Driver:- sorry I've just smashed light bar off trailer hitting wall in loading bay
Planner:- did you drive in to area as detailed on your red sheet?
Driver:- yes, exactly as that knowing how awful it is here
Planner:- is it safe to bring trailer back to depot??
Driver:- yes, shall I return now?
Planner:- yes immediately return to me at depot.
30 mins later driver arrives at depot, planner and management assess damage and get drivers record of events.
Thank you for your service driver here's your P45!!
Think that happens at least once a week 😯
Quote from: Portpatrick on January 23, 2017, 09:40:23 PM
I note the new so called Mini (well the real ones are hardly minis). That I would buy. There is a district shortage of decent ordinary current cars (say 2005 on) in the UK scale - things like the Focus, Mondeo, Vectra, Astra, Polo etc the sort of thing ordinary people, buy. I have a couple of Toyotas from tomytec, a first generation Galaxy, a Mercedes A class, and a current Beetle but that is more or less it.
Ah, I see their first contemporary car offering is getting recognition at last. I have one on pre-order. Thing is, not all cars come from Oxford. When I started, there were no Oxford cars in N, and if you wanted cars which didn't look under scale, you had to go for white metal ones. While the P&D Marsh and Fleetline ranges actually extend into the mid 1980s in some cases, they seem to stop around that point. I once spoke to the current owner of P&D Marsh about that, and he said that older cars have a bigger market, as you can put classic cars on a modern layout, but not modern cars on a steam age layout (never mind the inconvenient fact that many cars last less than 15 years, and the viability of using 80s era cars suddenly got lower with the scrappage scheme of 2010).
In recent times, however, other parts of the kits markets seem to have been somewhat revitalised, though you have to search diligently and be willing to pay for it. This following link leads to the Aspect Model Making range of cars, the most modern I have ever seen in white metal.
http://modelsupplies.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=97_110 (http://modelsupplies.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=97_110)
They are 1/150 architectural models with mounting spigots, and might be the best castings I have ever seen. Trouble is, you have to order several in order to fulfil their minimum spend requirements, and you never know what exact models will be sent to you (though real railway managers never know what cars will appear in their yard either!). The other major supplier to the architectural market is 4D Modelshop, the original home of Graham Avis Detail. They have just released a brand-new set of cars in 1/200, and they will eventually be available in 1/150.
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34673.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34673.0)
The other alternative, though an expensive one, is Shapeways. These following links would be of interest to those who need modern cars.
www.shapeways.com/shops/madaboutcars?sort=newest§ion=1%2F148&s=0 (http://www.shapeways.com/shops/madaboutcars?sort=newest§ion=1%2F148&s=0)
www.shapeways.com/product/65CTVZZ2J/nam01-1-148-austin-maestro?optionId=42373118 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/65CTVZZ2J/nam01-1-148-austin-maestro?optionId=42373118)
www.shapeways.com/product/YXYZ75M24/1-144-marco-s-car-sa?optionId=10252418 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/YXYZ75M24/1-144-marco-s-car-sa?optionId=10252418)
www.shapeways.com/product/CZYUDH74W/vauxhall-corsa-1-148-british-n?optionId=59908015 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/CZYUDH74W/vauxhall-corsa-1-148-british-n?optionId=59908015)
www.shapeways.com/product/BVC6NC3R9/reliant-robin-1-148-scale-british-n?optionId=59908010 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/BVC6NC3R9/reliant-robin-1-148-scale-british-n?optionId=59908010)
www.shapeways.com/shops/djrail?section=Road+Vehicles&s=0 (http://www.shapeways.com/shops/djrail?section=Road+Vehicles&s=0)
www.shapeways.com/shops/cmacmodels?section=British+Bus+Collection&s=0 (http://www.shapeways.com/shops/cmacmodels?section=British+Bus+Collection&s=0)
www.shapeways.com/product/MP6A68B3A/mercedes-benz-207d-bus-british-n-1-148?optionId=58504410 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/MP6A68B3A/mercedes-benz-207d-bus-british-n-1-148?optionId=58504410)
www.shapeways.com/shops/tinytrains?section=1%3A148th+Scale&s=0 (http://www.shapeways.com/shops/tinytrains?section=1%3A148th+Scale&s=0)
Several makers will also upscale 1/160 items to British N at the touch of a button. This way, I have even requested American outline vehicles in British N for my car show. You still have to be prepared to pay a bit more than the listed price, but this whole currency thing just might settle down by the end of this year!
Here are some pictures of my own collection.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5537-290117180834.jpeg)(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5537-290117180229.jpeg)(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5537-290117180544.jpeg)
Thanks for this post @Bornin1980something (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5537)
I have just posted a link to it on this thread of other links for N Gauge vehicles for obvious reasons:
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36201.msg426259;topicseen#msg426259 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36201.msg426259;topicseen#msg426259)
Any pictures from the London Toy FAir??
The only Toyfair pictures I have seen are on the Oxford Diecast Collectors Facebook group. There were finished versions of the Scania truck with lowloader trailer, various Borismasters, lots of the reliveries, and the raw castings for the 3 x farm trailers, Dingo scout Car, CMP, Weymann Fanfare coach, (unannounced) Burlingham Seagull coach, BMW Mini, Cortina MkIII, MGB, Mercedes ambulance, and Austin Princess. The raw castings plus the D-Tec skeletal trailer, and container, are all from the same mould suite, and have been delayed until now because of major corrections being needed to the MGB part of the mould. Close up pictures of most of the raw castings are on the Facebook Group too. The Mercedes Ambulance, which will have a lot of printed detail, will become the basis for supermarket delivery vans as soon as people get their hands on them. My local roads seem to be frequented by Tesco, Asda, Morrisons, Ocado, Sainsburys, Iceland etc. so just right for current street scenes.
Hi
The proposed use of the Mercedes van casting for the ambulance and Ocado type delivery van might explain the well over scale rear box on the ice cream van, this makes this model one of the poorest from Oxford in recent times. Just put it beside a LWB Transit or an artic tractor unit to see how out of scale it is. A van with this size of box likely be closer to scale for the new models
As I have said before why are the excellent TomyTec 1/150 cars not used more for modern Layouts?
Quote from: Rabbitaway on February 01, 2017, 10:06:07 PM
Hi
The proposed use of the Mercedes van casting for the ambulance and Ocado type delivery van might explain the well over scale rear box on the ice cream van, this makes this model one of the poorest from Oxford in recent times. Just put it beside a LWB Transit or an artic tractor unit to see how out of scale it is. A van with this size of box likely be closer to scale for the new models
As I have said before why are the excellent TomyTec 1/150 cars not used more for modern Layouts?
The ambulance is a completely new casting, looks a much better shape and size. I do not think that the Sprinter ice cream van is a good shape in 1/43 or 1/148ish.
I agree with your view on Tomytec cars, but although similar and sometimes identical models were or are in Europe, the model names vary and are not recognised by many possible buyers.
Quote from: Rabbitaway on February 01, 2017, 10:06:07 PM
Hi
The proposed use of the Mercedes van casting for the ambulance and Ocado type delivery van might explain the well over scale rear box on the ice cream van, this makes this model one of the poorest from Oxford in recent times. Just put it beside a LWB Transit or an artic tractor unit to see how out of scale it is. A van with this size of box likely be closer to scale for the new models
As I have said before why are the excellent TomyTec 1/150 cars not used more for modern Layouts?
Is their Bedford ice cream van any better?
I suspect the reason we don't see so many Tomytecs any more is that they are not as easily obtained as they once were. For instance, DM toys in Germany used to sell them separated from the pack, but their supplies seem to have been drying up in recent times.
Yes, I understand the body is likely to be a new casting but will this not be on the same base plate more suitable for a wide bodied box therefore save some tooling
Are TomyTec car still not available from Plaza Japan?
Quote from: Bornin1980something on February 01, 2017, 10:23:13 PM
I suspect the reason we don't see so many Tomytecs any more is that they are not as easily obtained as they once were. For instance, DM toys in Germany used to sell them separated from the pack, but their supplies seem to have been drying up in recent times.
I haven't been following developments closely, but my impression is Tomytec haven't released any new cars/vans for quite a while (though they're certainly putting out enough buses). Many of the existing models are still widely available in packs of 4 here though.
I'm looking forward to the MkIII Cortina, and I think the Princess and MGB will be good. I will wait to see what the NGS might do for the carflat, but I quite fancy a delivery load of Cortinas from Dagenham, or Princesses from Abingdon.
Quote from: Rabbitaway on February 01, 2017, 10:50:56 PM
Yes, I understand the body is likely to be a new casting but will this not by on the same base plate more suitable for a wide bodied box therefore save some tooling
The new ambulance is completely new including the chassis. Pictures of the casting confirm that the shape corresponds with this drawing.
http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/search?q=nma001 (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/search?q=nma001)
Quote from: railsquid on February 02, 2017, 01:28:46 AM
Quote from: Bornin1980something on February 01, 2017, 10:23:13 PM
I suspect the reason we don't see so many Tomytecs any more is that they are not as easily obtained as they once were. For instance, DM toys in Germany used to sell them separated from the pack, but their supplies seem to have been drying up in recent times.
I haven't been following developments closely, but my impression is Tomytec haven't released any new cars/vans for quite a while (though they're certainly putting out enough buses). Many of the existing models are still widely available in packs of 4 here though.
I've noticed that too.
I was a bit surprised to see that PlazaJapan/Hobby Search plan to stock the new Oxford Diecast items.
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/search?typ1_c=104&cat=rail&target=Make&searchkey=Oxford (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/search?typ1_c=104&cat=rail&target=Make&searchkey=Oxford)
Photos of some pre-production buses and coaches, and two first shots of coaches are in the News item for 13 February 2017. Choose news from the left hand menu, and then select the dated post.
http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/ (http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/)
New releases next week include the low-loader trailer and a red Borismaster bus.
NNR002 New Routemaster bus - Go Ahead London
NSHL001ST Scania Highline with Nooteboom low loader trailer - Stobart Rail
any sign of the armoured car? i caught a brief blurred glimpse of one of the Toy FAir photos.
nickR
Quote from: Railwaygun on February 14, 2017, 11:30:11 PM
any sign of the armoured car? i caught a brief blurred glimpse of one of the Toy FAir photos.
nickR
This was what Oxford's MD said on Facebook just before the London Toyfair:- "On my last visit, I advised that we were having some difficulty on the tooling for some of the new N scale items. The problem being that as they are being tooled as a group – they all must be correct. The MGB looked wrong so that cavity has been recut and thankfully now we have 1st shots of the moulds for these items - MGB. New Mini, Ford Transit SWB, Mercedes Ambulance, CMP Truck and the Weymann Fanfare, D TEC Trailer and Container, Farm Trailers, Daimler Dingo and Cortina MKIII."
There is a crisp photo of the raw casting of the scout car on the Oxford Diecast Collectors Facebook page. Members of the Group can view it here:-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154273891755949&set=g.282491821467&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154273891755949&set=g.282491821467&type=1&theater)
Apart from the aerials it looks fine.
thanks, I am a member of the FBG but missed it.
NR
I am after a Ford Granada MK2 Ghia X in N gauge anyone know were I can get one, I do believe they are like rocking horse dung... lol. :laugh:
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 15, 2017, 06:50:42 PM
I am after a Ford Granada MK2 Ghia X in N gauge anyone know were I can get one, I do believe they are like rocking horse dung... lol. :laugh:
The only N Granadas I am aware of are Mk3s in 1/160 as the US version:-
http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/hontaurus2.htm (http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/hontaurus2.htm) also in H0.
Unfortunately Oxford has not yet bit the bullet on 1970s/80s cars. Though there are some due as in the list in the original post.
The Taurus, despite its similar size, is not related to the Granada. It is front wheel drive. The Granada was always rear wheel drive.
Quote from: Bornin1980something on February 15, 2017, 07:06:33 PM
The Taurus, despite its similar size, is not related to the Granada. It is front wheel drive. The Granada was always rear wheel drive.
I know, i used to have a MK2, she was a 5 time show winner.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-160217053537.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48699)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-160217053657.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48700)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-160217053812.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48701)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-160217054014.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48702)
The wheels are from a MK3 that i used everyday, i put the originals on for shows.
Mods please remove if this is in the wrong thread.
Two new releases due with retailers next week commencing 20 March 2017:-
NIRZ005 Irizar PB coach - unlettered white livery
NMN005S Mini - Lime green
The Mini is a reissue and has been given a slightly different catalogue number with an S suffix. A car Mr. Bean would be proud to drive. Maybe it has lost its padlock on the drivers door.
Be interesting to see how well a plain white coach sells.
Although there is nothing specifically N related yet Lyndon Davies (MD of Oxford Diecast) has a blog on the Oxford Diecast website where he talks about design and manufacturing issues. There is an item on the challenges of scaling down a model, another on designing from the manufacturer's CAD before the actual vehicle is available, and a third on trying to hide joint lines in the multi-part moulds. This could be of interest to anyone who likes to understand the design and manufacturing process, and can translate to trains. I have bookmarked it for future reference.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news)
Releases for w/c 24 April 2017:-
NBED003 Bedford Lomas ambulance - Dublin
NPP005 Plaxton Panorama 1- Sheffield United Tours
NLAN188010 Land Rover Series 1 88" - Rover Works Fire Brigade
On an earlier post on this topic I welcomed the planned "New Style" Mini - at last a current everyday sort of car, such as you might see in station and other car parks. There is a real dearth of such things. Now in the May Hornby Magazine I see the plans in OO include a Nissan Qashqai. Maybe not as common as a Focus, Mondeo, Vectra etc but a N Gauge version would be welcome and go well in either the station car park at my new layout Allanbrae or the Premier Inn behind the station.
On a different note I also saw a OO Austin 7. Looks like the 1933 version my father owned from 1949 until 1954 by which time the arrival of son no 2 the previous year (me) necessitated a bigger car.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/479-200417165436.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51078)
The Oxford blog for 22 April 2017 shows how easy it is to design moulds for making model vehicles! Might make your head ache.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news)
A very enlightening read that. :thumbsup:
Fascinating article. Thanks.
Just wish, as with many blogs, posts and such, that writers would proof-read their work and correct all the typos. In this case it just made for more laboured reading, but I enjoyed the insight into moulds.
The most recent blog episode from Oxford Diecast indicates that there are 18 new N items to be announced at the end of May. Helpfully Oxford quote the barcode numbers which are totally meaningless as they are unrelated in any way to product numbers. Suffice to say there are two new cars (could be another colour on the Morris 1000 and the Jowett Javelin), plus a number of commercials, emergency, haulage, military and omnibus items. I am sure it will generate a bit of froth amongst the non-cognoscenti, until the real announcements are made. If nothing else the barcode sequence indicates the scale of the Oxford operation with barcodes in the 2400 series since their current 50555301 series began 10 years ago.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news/release-programme-2-2017-and-hidden-messages (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news/release-programme-2-2017-and-hidden-messages)
Couple of new items being released over the coming days.
NFT001 Ford Transit van, short wheelbase, low roof. Plain white livery
NNR003 New Routemaster bus - London United - silver livery
Quote from: woodbury22uk on May 16, 2017, 12:16:12 AM
The most recent blog episode from Oxford Diecast indicates that there are 18 new N items to be announced at the end of May. Helpfully Oxford quote the barcode numbers which are totally meaningless as they are unrelated in any way to product numbers.
I am just hoping these are actually going to be new castings etc rather than another set of old models in new colours. I keep looking at the ranf=ges in larger scales and think 'if only we could have those in N gauge!'
Best wishes and fingers crossed
Simon
Quote from: woodbury22uk on May 24, 2017, 05:14:06 PM
Couple of new items being released over the coming days.
NFT001 Ford Transit van, short wheelbase, low roof. Plain white livery
NNR003 New Routemaster bus - London United - silver livery
Yes yes yes, but what about the mk 3 Cortina? I've been waiting for
ages!
:'(
Still no pre ww2 leylands, nor anything in Hants & Dorset or Wilts & Dorset livery. They're even worse than Dapol & Farish as far as models suitable for Southern Layouts especialy grouping period, a few Southdown, Southern National and Western National, nothing in between.
Set your layout in the West Midlands for WW2 onwards with Midland Red, Birmingham Corporation, and Wolverhampton austerity/utility buses. A bit over scale but seems you cannot have everything! :-)
Quote from: Yet_Another on May 24, 2017, 05:50:24 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on May 24, 2017, 05:14:06 PM
Couple of new items being released over the coming days.
NFT001 Ford Transit van, short wheelbase, low roof. Plain white livery
NNR003 New Routemaster bus - London United - silver livery
Yes yes yes, but what about the mk 3 Cortina? I've been waiting for ages!
in production and awaiting Ford approval. :-)
Quote from: bridgiesimon on May 24, 2017, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on May 16, 2017, 12:16:12 AM
The most recent blog episode from Oxford Diecast indicates that there are 18 new N items to be announced at the end of May. Helpfully Oxford quote the barcode numbers which are totally meaningless as they are unrelated in any way to product numbers.
I am just hoping these are actually going to be new castings etc rather than another set of old models in new colours. I keep looking at the ranf=ges in larger scales and think 'if only we could have those in N gauge!'
Best wishes and fingers crossed
Simon
Agreed. Seems that everyone of the makers struggles with making the cars we want. And the DJM crowdfunding project got very little support. Difficult to know how to get this off the ground.
Didn't the NGS indicate there may be some cars to go with the Carflats?
Hi Mike,
Yes, the NGS has commissioned a number of cars from Bachmann to go with the Carflats.
As soon as I have some images I will post them.
Cheers
Ben A.
^Cars of what era?
Quote from: Bornin1980something on May 24, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
^Cars of what era?
Possibly dictated by the eras of the prototype's life, from 64 to the 90s? But agree, more specific information would be welcome, and might help sales of the carflats too.
Quote from: Ben A on May 24, 2017, 10:54:58 PMYes, the NGS has commissioned a number of cars from Bachmann to go with the Carflats.
Scaled to match the car flats or to match the rest of the Bachmann cars/buses?? :hmmm:
Quote from: PLD on May 25, 2017, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: Ben A on May 24, 2017, 10:54:58 PMYes, the NGS has commissioned a number of cars from Bachmann to go with the Carflats.
Scaled to match the car flats or to match the rest of the Bachmann cars/buses?? :hmmm:
Although the cars scaled quite well it was a pity that masters used were of such variable quality. One of the better proportioned ones was the 5cwt van which bears an excellent resemblance to the Ford van it is based on.
Hello all,
The cars will be to 1:148 scale and will be a selection of era appropriate vehicles.
We'll confirm exactly which ones as soon as possible.
I have every intention of them being an improvement over previous Farish cars.
Cheers
Ben A.
Will the cars be available separately, or just with the carflats?
Quote from: Yet_Another on May 24, 2017, 05:50:24 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on May 24, 2017, 05:14:06 PM
Couple of new items being released over the coming days.
NFT001 Ford Transit van, short wheelbase, low roof. Plain white livery
NNR003 New Routemaster bus - London United - silver livery
Yes yes yes, but what about the mk 3 Cortina? I've been waiting for ages!
:'(
And the MK11 Granada 2.8i X Ghia :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Hello all,
Once the specifics of the NGS cars are finalised I will begin a dedicated thread, with Tank's permission.
In brief, we are looking at packs of four vehicles in assorted colours and types. They are intended for use with our Carflats, but won't be in the same box.
They may be available individually from Farish.
Cheers
Ben A.
Taff has added more information to his blog today ,seven of the n gauge items are new tooling two cars ,one bus ,one haulage, one commercial and two military. No types yet.
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on May 27, 2017, 10:43:45 PM
Taff has added more information to his blog today ,seven of the n gauge items are new tooling two cars ,one bus ,one haulage, one commercial and two military. No types yet.
link to the Blog please :helpneededsign:
Quote from: Railwaygun on May 28, 2017, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on May 27, 2017, 10:43:45 PM
Taff has added more information to his blog today ,seven of the n gauge items are new tooling two cars ,one bus ,one haulage, one commercial and two military. No types yet.
link to the Blog please :helpneededsign:
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news)
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/new (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/new)
Please find attached
1:148 Oxford Automobile
NHI001 Hillman Imp Willow Green NEW TOOL
NXF001 Jaguar XF Carnelian Red NEW TOOL
1:148 Oxford Commercials
NFDE001 Ford 400E Van British Rail NEW TOOL
NFT022 Ford Transit Mk5 Network Rail Response Unit
NPB008 Commer PB Royal Mail
NTRAC004 Fordson Tractor Matt Grey
NTRAIL006 Mobile Trailer Buns on Wheels
1:148 Oxford Fire
NSFE007 Scania Pump Ladder Surrey F & R
1:148 Oxford Haulage
NMB006 Mercedes Actros Curtainside Sparks
NSHL03TK Scania Highline Tanker Eddie Stobart NEW TOOL Tanker
NTCAB005 Scania T Cab Tipper Tinnelly
NVOL4003 Volvo FH4 Curtainside Knowles
1:148 Oxford Military
NBSA008 Motorbike & Sidecar RAF Blue
NCHT001 Churchill Tank Kingforce NEW TOOL
NLAN188020 Land Rover Series I 88" Canvas REME
NLRL001 Land Rover Lightweight United Nations NEW TOOL
1:148 Oxford Omnibus
NNR005 New Routemaster Propercorn
NSEA001 Burlingham Seagull Wallace Arnold NEW TOOL
Thanks for the list Richard. Funny enough the Commer PB Royal Mail van was in my list in post #1, and has been for some time! But although it had appeared in some trade list this is the first formal announcement.
Some useful new items here. The two cars should please someone, the Imp I learned to drive in is a good Carflat choice and the Jaguar is bang up to date. The military pattern Land Rover could be a Warwell/Warflat load. Think the Churchill tank is probably out of gauge.
The Ford 400E is a good pre-Transit choice with a wide palette of liveries already in the 1/76 range.
A modern fuel tanker fills another range gap.
Lyndon Davies, MD of Oxford, prefaced the new item announcements with "There is a perfect storm brewing for N scale enthusiasts, not just due to the arrival of those late items, but because we didn't stop the development of further products. There are new further items being announced today, you will see a further 5 ½ items – the tanker being an addition to the haulage range, which I call a ½ model. We also have the Burlingham Seagull which technically makes it 6½ as I forgot to mention this in the past releases. The new items are all fully tooled – I didn't want to announce these until the previous items were imminent so no hold ups with these."
Just to finish @newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) might be pleased to hear they are tooling a cattle lorry in 1/76 scale, so hope for N yet.
Yes, lots to get excited about and covering varied eras and themes. I'm particularly excited that I can finally afford a jag! 8)
Quote from: woodbury22uk on June 01, 2017, 10:43:09 PM
Just to finish @newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) might be pleased to hear they are tooling a cattle lorry in 1/76 scale, so hope for N yet.
Thanks, Mike. I'm sure it would be a good seller.
Quote from: Formerly NtasticShop on June 01, 2017, 08:46:22 PM
1:148 Oxford Automobile
NHI001 Hillman Imp Willow Green NEW TOOL
NXF001 Jaguar XF Carnelian Red NEW TOOL
1:148 Oxford Commercials
NFDE001 Ford 400E Van British Rail NEW TOOL
NFT022 Ford Transit Mk5 Network Rail Response Unit
NPB008 Commer PB Royal Mail
NTRAC004 Fordson Tractor Matt Grey
NTRAIL006 Mobile Trailer Buns on Wheels
1:148 Oxford Fire
NSFE007 Scania Pump Ladder Surrey F & R
1:148 Oxford Haulage
NMB006 Mercedes Actros Curtainside Sparks
NSHL03TK Scania Highline Tanker Eddie Stobart NEW TOOL Tanker
NTCAB005 Scania T Cab Tipper Tinnelly
NVOL4003 Volvo FH4 Curtainside Knowles
1:148 Oxford Military
NBSA008 Motorbike & Sidecar RAF Blue
NCHT001 Churchill Tank Kingforce NEW TOOL
NLAN188020 Land Rover Series I 88" Canvas REME
NLRL001 Land Rover Lightweight United Nations NEW TOOL
1:148 Oxford Omnibus
NNR005 New Routemaster Propercorn
NSEA001 Burlingham Seagull Wallace Arnold NEW TOOL
Where is your source for this? I can't find these on the OD website. And, any idea when we will see any of these?
Quote from: Bornin1980something on June 02, 2017, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: Formerly NtasticShop on June 01, 2017, 08:46:22 PM
1:148 Oxford Automobile
NHI001 Hillman Imp Willow Green NEW TOOL
NXF001 Jaguar XF Carnelian Red NEW TOOL
1:148 Oxford Commercials
NFDE001 Ford 400E Van British Rail NEW TOOL
NFT022 Ford Transit Mk5 Network Rail Response Unit
NPB008 Commer PB Royal Mail
NTRAC004 Fordson Tractor Matt Grey
NTRAIL006 Mobile Trailer Buns on Wheels
1:148 Oxford Fire
NSFE007 Scania Pump Ladder Surrey F & R
1:148 Oxford Haulage
NMB006 Mercedes Actros Curtainside Sparks
NSHL03TK Scania Highline Tanker Eddie Stobart NEW TOOL Tanker
NTCAB005 Scania T Cab Tipper Tinnelly
NVOL4003 Volvo FH4 Curtainside Knowles
1:148 Oxford Military
NBSA008 Motorbike & Sidecar RAF Blue
NCHT001 Churchill Tank Kingforce NEW TOOL
NLAN188020 Land Rover Series I 88" Canvas REME
NLRL001 Land Rover Lightweight United Nations NEW TOOL
1:148 Oxford Omnibus
NNR005 New Routemaster Propercorn
NSEA001 Burlingham Seagull Wallace Arnold NEW TOOL
Where is your source for this? I can't find these on the OD website. And, any idea when we will see any of these?
Here you go
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news/release-programme-2-2017-and-hidden-messages (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news/release-programme-2-2017-and-hidden-messages)
Q1 2018? That's a bit ambitious. I will be buying the Hillman Imp, but do you ever see XF Jags in the Lake district?
Still waiting for the "New Mini" then, which is the only item (ordinary car) I would want for Allanbrae. Jag a bit too posh.
Might find room for an Imp on Portpatrick, though it is stretching the period a bit.
Still awaiting the New Mini, the MGB, and the three farm trailers. Now have to add the Jag to the list, but would prefer another colour (red Mini, red MGB....)
Of course the big question with all of these future releases, is how far off is that 'Future'? Seems to be a moveable feast so far.
I'd take an Imp, in fact any car I recognise from the late 70s to mid 80s...
"The military pattern Land Rover could be a Warwell/Warflat load. Think the Churchill tank is probably out of gauge."
the Military area (@tank) thinks they were designed for warflats
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37873.msg449802#msg449802 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37873.msg449802#msg449802)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/941-020617153722.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52382)
Still no MK2 Granada, would buy several in a flash. ;D
Quote from: Steamie+ on June 04, 2017, 05:17:47 AM
Still no MK2 Granada, would buy several in a flash. ;D
It seems to me that the 80s and 90s are very poorly represented. We're not helped by the near invisibility of Ford, whose position as a household name and well known global brand isn't proportionally translated in N. We have Ford livery rolling stock from Peco and Minitrix. We have carflats inbound. We have everything we need to model flows to/from a Ford plant except for Ford cars!
This is my observation. This is not me attacking manufacturers, who I realise can't produce everything just as I couldn't (afford to) buy everything.
Indeed. Noo better for ordinary cars of 2000/2010 either
I agree with you guys about the lack of commonplace vehicles from the 70s to date.
Now I model the early 1950s and would like a bit more for my era. That said I do feel for you modellers of later decades.
You will never keep all happy, but I cannot be alone in wondering why there are such glaring gaps in vehicles, and why some that have been produced made it to production.
One (of many) omissions that always puzzles me is the Bristol K and L type buses (double and single deck respectively) with E.C.W. bodywork. Produced from the 40s many were in service until the mid 70s. With bus companies Nationalised in 1948 these vehicles were found all over the U.K. in prestigious numbers.
The mind does boggle at some of the releases, whilst people are crying out for many bread and butter types. Allegros, Marinas, Princess, Escort, Cortinas, Capris, Viva's etc etc.
Not my era but these would surely please many and be good sellers.
Quote from: trkilliman on June 04, 2017, 09:32:03 AM
The mind does boggle at some of the releases, whilst people are crying out for many bread and butter types. Allegros, Marinas, Princess, Escort, Cortinas, Capris, Viva's etc etc.
Not my era but these would surely please many and be good sellers.
It will be interesting to see what models the NGS comes up with if they proceed to 'populate' their carflats.................
http://newweb.ngaugesociety.com/?page_id=171 (http://newweb.ngaugesociety.com/?page_id=171)
Guys
Stobart tanker and Hillman imp are a win for me still no Bedford TK though
Quote from: newportnobby on June 04, 2017, 09:45:14 AM
It will be interesting to see what models the NGS comes up with if they proceed to 'populate' their carflats.................
http://newweb.ngaugesociety.com/?page_id=171 (http://newweb.ngaugesociety.com/?page_id=171)
Perhaps a simple poll by decade, of the membership, is called for?
Most of Oxfords market is collectors who seen to prefer the more exotic or commercials and buses.There for in n gauge a lengthy production run helps as then you can sell over a longer time frame thus Beetles ,Minis ,2CVs and Morris Minors prevail as their production runs exceed twenty years where the average family car would have significant changes every 4 or 5
Quote from: trkilliman on June 04, 2017, 09:32:03 AM
The mind does boggle at some of the releases, whilst people are crying out for many bread and butter types. Allegros, Marinas, Princess, Escort, Cortinas, Capris, Viva's etc etc.
Not my era but these would surely please many and be good sellers.
I agree. Oxford have had a Cortina on their "upcoming" model list for ages, but as yet, no sign of the beast. A must-have vehicle for anyone modelling the 1970s. A Sierra would be a really good 1980s choice, as would a Austin Metro, in some ways the quintessential high-mileage hatchback of the era. And am the only one who'd want to see a Sinclair C5 on his layout, too?
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on June 04, 2017, 12:51:04 PM
Most of Oxfords market is collectors who seen to prefer the more exotic or commercias and buses.
That makes some sense, but do collectors really collect N gauge model cars? They aren't particularly detailed and most look pretty generic compared with the model cars produced at larger scales. The 1:76 scale ones have much nicer detailing and the price differential is insignificant, a couple of quid, if that, for the cars. On top of that, the boxes they come in are almost the same size, so it's not like you'd be saving a massive amount of shelf space!
Cheers, NeMo
Quote from: NeMo on June 04, 2017, 01:05:48 PM
That makes some sense, but do collectors really collect N gauge model cars? They aren't particularly detailed and most look pretty generic compared with the model cars produced at larger scales. The 1:76 scale ones have much nicer detailing and the price differential is insignificant, a couple of quid, if that, for the cars. On top of that, the boxes they come in are almost the same size, so it's not like you'd be saving a massive amount of shelf space!
Cheers, NeMo
It's probably more the case that the N stuff is a subset of the larger scales, just to squeeze some more value out of the design work. Are there any N only models in the Oxford catalogue? I haven't checked.
I suppose I could base a layout on modern day Charlbury, Oxon - quiet countryside 3 HST stops from London means a car park full of Jags with the odd Landie wouldn't be too unrealistic. :D
I posted this back in January.
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36008.msg424559#msg424559 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36008.msg424559#msg424559)
Not everything in the N range is in 00/1:76 scale.
Many of the bus models in N are not in the 1/76 range, much to the disappointment of collectors! The Foden lorry is in N only, and the Albion horsebox, the Bedford pantechnicon, and the Dennis fire engine.
I understand that Oxford is still open for commissions for anyone who wants to invest in a surefire winner.
It is disappointing not to see every era and vehicle type catered for, but having participated in getting some 1/76 items produced I am conscious of the volume of work involved. According to OD they are now introducing between 450 and 500 new items per year. Their team is very small, and I am certain that they are keen to find people with the skills needed to expand more. Wish I could complete two new items every working day. Less than one per month is my usual haul! :-)
Ah, I apologise - guilty of internet speculation without doing the research!
:sorrysign:
Illustrated catalogue now online to view and download here:-
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/3257/files/JUNE-SEPT_17.pdf?17559103093921845096
N is on pages 31-37, and 43.
Pre-production shots of the new castings announced last week are in the blog item for 3 June 2017. There are also images of the production models for almost all of the announced items due for delivery over the coming months.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news)
For @newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) there are some images of the CADs for the future cattle trucks in 1/76 scale. These are further down the blog than the N report.
I can see why there are a high proportion of coaches in Oxford's range compared with buses.
They travelled well out of their main operating areas on excursions. I might buy Wallace Arnold and Southdown examples because the prototypes travelled everywhere!
Quote from: woodbury22uk on June 05, 2017, 02:16:31 AM
For @newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) there are some images of the CADs for the future cattle trucks in 1/76 scale. These are further down the blog than the N report.
Thanks, Mike.
It looks too big to get under the road bridge on 'Bletchford' :doh:
Quote from: scottishlocos on June 04, 2017, 11:37:15 AM
Guys
Stobart tanker and Hillman imp are a win for me still no Bedford TK though
Oh the TK, my late Father had a small fleet of 5 of these great Lorries,which he made from flatbeds to side boarded himself, but you are correct with what you say, no TK's only those that seem to be more popular like the Stobarts and others. I would have has many TK's has possible on my layout. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I've just seen Hatton's e-mail which has alerted me to the Ford 400E van in BR livery. While this version will be a nice addition to my fleet, hopefully some plain-painted vans will be introduced later. Wikipedia states these 'Thames' vans were produced between 1957 and 1965; the forthcoming Carflat was introduced in 1964, so the 400E will be ideal to represent the flow between Eastleigh and Dagenham. Great stuff!
Quote from: Steamie+ on June 06, 2017, 07:17:00 AM
Quote from: scottishlocos on June 04, 2017, 11:37:15 AM
Guys
Stobart tanker and Hillman imp are a win for me still no Bedford TK though
Oh the TK, my late Father had a small fleet of 5 of these great Lorries,which he made from flatbeds to side boarded himself, but you are correct with what you say, no TK's only those that seem to be more popular like the Stobarts and others. I would have has many TK's has possible on my layout. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Yes, the Bedford TK is an iconic truck. 8) In production for an eternity - 59 to 92 - and it's probably easier to list those enterprises or roles that didn't use it than list those that did!
Bedford TK.
In the mid 60s there was a big council tip not far from where I grew up. In the days before "elf n safety" there was always a number of kids around the site looking for this and that. One T.K.tipper driver would let us ride in the cab and on a few occasions have a go at driving it across the tip. There were loads of TKs around, and as said above they seemed to be around for an eternity. Everyone used them...councils, B.R., contractors,parcel carriers, farmers for cattle lorrys.
I have an Ian Allan bookazine called the Great British lorry. It has a photo taken in 1960 at the Vauxhall Luton plant. The caption says "believe it or not this picture shows the 100,000th Bedford to be built this year" Not all TK's but I bet a fair old proportion were!
Guys
My point exactly the army/forces were still using them until recently so they fit into almost any era Oxford already has a range of military vehicles I seen a TK a few weeks ago still in use with a potato merchant!
For a truck its a no brainer but not been done is there something complex or costly in the Tooling?
Oxford are great and any new models un N are welcome
Oxford already make the TK in 1/76 so they must already have the drawings .This is one used by a Dumbarton company for display and publicity.
Though the military had some TK most were the heavier looking MK and ML.
Back in 1975 the training centre where I worked had a TK as part of the motor pool, as a government vehicle we did not have to display a tax disc so our driver was regularly being pulled over and had to expain this exemption ,one time after being pulled over twice in an hour he was a bit short with the official who then decided to check the diesel , he was not pleased to find that the lorry was petrol powered
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1970-070617193258.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52528)
The T.K was also widely used by brewers as a dray vehicle. If you model the 70s when brewing was somewhat dominated by the "big six" brewers, then vehicles of these in their liveries were to be found far and wide. This was due to them swallowing up smaller brewers at an alarming rate.
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on June 07, 2017, 07:51:32 PM
Oxford already make the TK in 1/76 so they must already have the drawings .This is one used by a Dumbarton company for display and publicity.
Though the military had some TK most were the heavier looking MK and ML.
Back in 1975 the training centre where I worked had a TK as part of the motor pool, as a government vehicle we did not have to display a tax disc so our driver was regularly being pulled over and had to expain this exemption ,one time after being pulled over twice in an hour he was a bit short with the official who then decided to check the diesel , he was not pleased to find that the lorry was petrol powered
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1970-070617193258.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52528)
Thanks for the photo javlinfaw7 it's brilliant. Thats pretty much like my Fathers small fleet of TK's in the Blue Livery with the Gold lettering. :thankyousign: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
love the buggy in the back as well, wish OD would do those in N!!
Simon
The way Oxford produce odd balls there is more of a chance of a n gauge beach buggy than a Bedford TK!
???
Quote from: Rabbitaway on June 09, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
The way Oxford produce odd balls there is more of a chance of a n gauge beach buggy than a Bedford TK!
I reckon there will me many who having read your post Rabbitway, will have smiled and nodded in agreement with you...as I just have.
Quote from: Rabbitaway on June 09, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
The way Oxford produce odd balls there is more of a chance of a n gauge beach buggy than a Bedford TK!
???
Sounds like a challenge. Would go with the VW minibuses with surf boards on the roof racks, so probably not odd ball enough. ;-)
Quote from: Rabbitaway on June 09, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
The way Oxford produce odd balls there is more of a chance of a n gauge beach buggy than a Bedford TK!
???
Flipping hope not...... :thumbsdown: thats only the 1st thumbs down i have given.
Before the expected late-July deluge of new items, there is just one being delivered to retailers right now:-
NMOS005 Morris Minor Saloon - Police Panda
Quote from: Steamie+ on June 04, 2017, 05:17:47 AM
Still no MK2 Granada, would buy several in a flash. ;D
A lot of this range are available in 1/145 scale.
https://www.minimodelshop.co.uk/diecast-model-car/ford-granada-mark-ii-ghia-pewter-effect-model-car-autosculpt-miniatures-fo18 (https://www.minimodelshop.co.uk/diecast-model-car/ford-granada-mark-ii-ghia-pewter-effect-model-car-autosculpt-miniatures-fo18)
Might be worth looking at Librairie Retrorepro from time to time, or encourage them to include the Granada Mk 2 in the smaller scale range.
https://www.retrorepro.fr/recherche?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=ford+1%2F145&submit_search= (https://www.retrorepro.fr/recherche?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=ford+1%2F145&submit_search=)
1/92e version on ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Granada-MK2-Ghia-ref86-Pewter-Effect-Car-Emblem-On-a-SPLIT-RING-keyring/222210066577?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D43782%26meid%3D27a5c2e648e24165bbee62dbeeaae1ee%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D221667458628 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Granada-MK2-Ghia-ref86-Pewter-Effect-Car-Emblem-On-a-SPLIT-RING-keyring/222210066577?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D43782%26meid%3D27a5c2e648e24165bbee62dbeeaae1ee%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D221667458628)
Quote from: woodbury22uk on June 16, 2017, 07:13:37 PM
Quote from: Steamie+ on June 04, 2017, 05:17:47 AM
Still no MK2 Granada, would buy several in a flash. ;D
A lot of this range are available in 1/145 scale.
https://www.minimodelshop.co.uk/diecast-model-car/ford-granada-mark-ii-ghia-pewter-effect-model-car-autosculpt-miniatures-fo18 (https://www.minimodelshop.co.uk/diecast-model-car/ford-granada-mark-ii-ghia-pewter-effect-model-car-autosculpt-miniatures-fo18)
The point being made is that it is one of the models OD have already announced and that we are all waiting for.
Best wishes
Simon
Might be worth looking at Librairie Retrorepro from time to time, or encourage them to include the Granada Mk 2 in the smaller scale range.
https://www.retrorepro.fr/recherche?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=ford+1%2F145&submit_search= (https://www.retrorepro.fr/recherche?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=ford+1%2F145&submit_search=)
Quote from: bridgiesimon on June 16, 2017, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on June 16, 2017, 07:13:37 PM
Quote from: Steamie+ on June 04, 2017, 05:17:47 AM
Still no MK2 Granada, would buy several in a flash. ;D
A lot of this range are available in 1/145 scale.
https://www.minimodelshop.co.uk/diecast-model-car/ford-granada-mark-ii-ghia-pewter-effect-model-car-autosculpt-miniatures-fo18 (https://www.minimodelshop.co.uk/diecast-model-car/ford-granada-mark-ii-ghia-pewter-effect-model-car-autosculpt-miniatures-fo18)
The point being made is that it is one of the models OD have already announced and that we are all waiting for.
Best wishes
Simon
Might be worth looking at Librairie Retrorepro from time to time, or encourage them to include the Granada Mk 2 in the smaller scale range.
https://www.retrorepro.fr/recherche?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=ford+1%2F145&submit_search= (https://www.retrorepro.fr/recherche?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=ford+1%2F145&submit_search=)
:confusedsign: My confusion must be because the 1/76 Oxford model is a Consul/Mk1 Granada isn't it? And the N model is the MkIII Cortina. :) Or did I miss something? :confused2:
Quote from: woodbury22uk on June 16, 2017, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: bridgiesimon on June 16, 2017, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on June 16, 2017, 07:13:37 PM
Quote from: Steamie+ on June 04, 2017, 05:17:47 AM
Still no MK2 Granada, would buy several in a flash. ;D
A lot of this range are available in 1/145 scale.
https://www.minimodelshop.co.uk/diecast-model-car/ford-granada-mark-ii-ghia-pewter-effect-model-car-autosculpt-miniatures-fo18 (https://www.minimodelshop.co.uk/diecast-model-car/ford-granada-mark-ii-ghia-pewter-effect-model-car-autosculpt-miniatures-fo18)
The point being made is that it is one of the models OD have already announced and that we are all waiting for.
Best wishes
Simon
Might be worth looking at Librairie Retrorepro from time to time, or encourage them to include the Granada Mk 2 in the smaller scale range.
https://www.retrorepro.fr/recherche?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=ford+1%2F145&submit_search= (https://www.retrorepro.fr/recherche?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=ford+1%2F145&submit_search=)
:confusedsign: My confusion must be because the 1/76 Oxford model is a Consul/Mk1 Granada isn't it? And the N model is the MkIII Cortina. :) Or did I miss something? :confused2:
Oxford has a Mk1 Ford Grandad and a Mk3 Ford Cortina in the 1:76 range. But only the latter has been shrunk to 1:148.
New carflat packs now available
http://www.hattons.co.uk/StockDetail.aspx?SID=231201&utm_source=NGaugeNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20170627 (http://www.hattons.co.uk/StockDetail.aspx?SID=231201&utm_source=NGaugeNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20170627)
http://www.hattons.co.uk/231200/Oxford_Rail_OR148CPK001_Pack_of_four_assorted_1960s_cars_for_Carflat_wagons/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.hattons.co.uk/231200/Oxford_Rail_OR148CPK001_Pack_of_four_assorted_1960s_cars_for_Carflat_wagons/StockDetail.aspx)
Due for release over the next week are:-
NFG007 Foden FG 8 Wheel Flatbed Blue Circle
NFG008 Foden FG Round Tanker John Houston
NFG012 Foden FG Oval Tanker Isherwoods
NNR004CC New Routemaster - London United/Coca Cola
The next release batch will include some of the long delayed items resulting from a problem with one small part of the mould featuring the MGB.
Following from the late July releases these three will be in shops next week:-
NFG009 Foden FG 8 Wheel Dropside - H E Payne
NFG010 Foden FG Tipper - Hoveringham
NFG011 Foden FG Dray - Fremlins
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 28, 2017, 06:10:59 PM
Following from the late July releases these three will be in shops next week:-
NFG011 Foden FG Dray - Fremlins
Might have to get the Fremlins dray to go with the Fremlins van I've got.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 28, 2017, 06:10:59 PM
Following from the late July releases these three will be in shops next week:-
NFG009 Foden FG 8 Wheel Dropside - H E Payne
NFG010 Foden FG Tipper - Hoveringham
NFG011 Foden FG Dray - Fremlins
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/941-290717001407.png)
Some nice liveries on this lot. I remember the Hoveringham tipper as a Matchbox diecast tipper, but the later Foden varient.
The Fremlins dray. It is shown with a load of crates, yet the Hattons site show it with crates and barrels, albeit an impression of the release not an actual photo. I think it would be better with some barrels that would positively identify it as a dray. Brewers drays from back in the day offer so much potential for releases, so I'm a bit surprised they haven't released them in more brewery liveries thus far.
Many of us include a brewery on our layouts, so maybe it's a pipe dream guys...lol
Looks like its just a repaint of the Scottish and Newcastle one
Another August release has now arrived in the shops:-
NBED006 Bedford JI Ambulance - Army Medical Services
Well, Oxford can't make 'em all I suppose, but I'm struggling guys! My layout is roughly dated 1986. I'd like some cars to dot about here and there. Where are the bog standard Escorts, Fiestas, Cavaliers, Sierras, Cortinas, Metros, Astra, Orions, Novas and even Maestros? These were the 10 top selling cars of that era. All I can find are Toyota and Nissan models that never made it to the UK.
I don't mind having the odd timeless Landrover, but its too much of a stretch to scatter about Morris Traveller Estates or Jowett Javelins. :-(
Am I not looking in the right places?
you are not looking in the wrong area, just frustratingly missing!
Simon
My sentiment exactly. Though I would prefer 2000 onwards
Agreed the 80's are poorly served but consider
Tomytec 1/150, Toyota Supra and Corolla estate, Hiace mini bus, the non UK imported Nissan looks very like the Hyundai Stellar (remember these!). There where a reasonable number of these cars on the road in the 80s. Tomytec are nicer models than Oxford in my view.
The Oxford Mini, Beetle, 110 Land Rover are suitable
For lorries some of the Tomytec models can look like the Hino one's imported in the 80s and these were reasonably common due to their low cost
Tomytec do have a reasonable number of 2000 on cars, I have a good number of these
Quote from: Invicta Alec on August 15, 2017, 07:19:31 PM
Am I not looking in the right places?
Agreed, it's frustrating, but in the meantime, P&D Marsh do make some whitemetal cars that are of use...
http://www.pdmarshmodels.com/product_list.php?gauge=%27N%27&cat2=%2770%27 (http://www.pdmarshmodels.com/product_list.php?gauge=%27N%27&cat2=%2770%27)
Ford Escort XR3i 3 dr hatch
Ford Escort 5 door hatch
Ford Orion 4 door saloon
Leyland Sherpa (three sorts)
The eBay version of G06 pack includes Capri mk2, Cortina mk1, VW Beetle and Rover Metro.
Cheers, NeMo
Agreed, it's frustrating, but in the meantime, P&D Marsh do make some whitemetal cars that are of use...
http://www.pdmarshmodels.com/product_list.php?gauge=%27N%27&cat2=%2770%27 (http://www.pdmarshmodels.com/product_list.php?gauge=%27N%27&cat2=%2770%27)
Ford Escort XR3i 3 dr hatch
Ford Escort 5 door hatch
Ford Orion 4 door saloon
Leyland Sherpa (three sorts)
The eBay version of G06 pack includes Capri mk2, Cortina mk1, VW Beetle and Rover Metro.
Cheers, NeMo
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Thanks NeMo. I've looked at P&D Marsh's offerings but the photos I've seen of finished (painted) vehicles are not exactly awe inspiring, are they? Some I've seen need a bit of imagination to match the model they are supposed to represent. Or am I being too harsh on them? Does anyone here have direct experience of their kits?
Alec.
Quote from: Invicta Alec on August 15, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Thanks NeMo. I've looked at P&D Marsh's offerings but the photos I've seen of finished (painted) vehicles are not exactly awe inspiring, are they? Some I've seen need a bit of imagination to match the model they are supposed to represent. Or am I being too harsh on them? Does anyone here have direct experience of their kits?
I haven't done these kits, but quite a few P&D Marsh kits. If you look at their eBay page for the G06 kit, you can see they'd probably be okay for background models, under bridges, or anywhere they're not going to be totally in your face.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P-D-Marsh-N-Gauge-N-Scale-G06-Capri-Cortina-VW-Metro-cars-casting-need-painting-/370100948817 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P-D-Marsh-N-Gauge-N-Scale-G06-Capri-Cortina-VW-Metro-cars-casting-need-painting-/370100948817)
Like most whitemetal kits, I find P&D Marsh stuff a bit mushy-looking compared with plastic because the details just aren't as knife-edged as you'd like. P&D Marsh have been producing these kits for donkey's years, and they're nothing like as precise as the modern Shapeways stuff, let alone Oxford's ready to plant cars.
On the other hand, after soap and water cleaning, they take enamels well, so getting a decent gloss finish shouldn't be hard. Details can be applied easily enough with a very fine paint brush. Unlike 3D printing, there are no funny textures to deal with, which I like, and whitemetal isn't particularly brittle, so handling isn't quite so nerve-wracking. Only real downside is that the windows have to be painted grey or black, which isn't idea for up-front display, but in the background shouldn't cause too many problems.
Cheers, NeMo
Quote from: woodbury22uk on August 15, 2017, 05:38:48 PM
Another August release has now arrived in the shops:-
NBED006 Bedford JI Ambulance - Army Medical Services
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/941-150817214738.jpeg)
A few Retrorepro Escort RS in this photo. They are 1/145 and well detailed.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1599-150817220508.jpeg)
Shapeways Rail n Scale Cavaliers are on special offer
https://images2.sw-cdn.net/product/picture/710x528_19565197_8675074_1500395353.jpg
Can't post a link at the moment, but Fleetline Road'n'rail do several whitemetal castings of 80s era vehicles, including Ford Sierra, Escort, Capri Mk3, an early (1976-83) Fiesta, and the first three generations of Transit. These castings actually date back to the '80s, but they are of more consistent quality and scale than P & D Marsh.
To answer an earlier debate, they also do a range of Bedford TK lorries.
R Parker does a very good mk 1 Transit both as a van and an ambulance
The floral pattern Mini has been added to the current round of deliveries.
NMN006 Mini - M & S Floral
Quote from: woodbury22uk on August 18, 2017, 05:05:56 PMt
The floral pattern Mini has been added to the current round of deliveries.
NMN006 Mini - M & S Floral
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/mini-m-and-s-floral-nmn006 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/mini-m-and-s-floral-nmn006)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/941-180817192521.jpeg)
Real cool man!
I don't care about a Mini
I want a Cortina!
:sorrysign:
I want the promised "new" mini
Quote from: Yet_Another on August 18, 2017, 11:39:59 PM
I don't care about a Mini
I want a Cortina!
:sorrysign:
I too want a Cortina! A Mk.5 2.3 V6 Ghia in metallic bronze would be nice. 8) I don't care about THAT Mini. But I could care for a Mini Cooper S 1275 in black. 8) My second and first cars (respectively). :-[
Turns out the Floral Mini is a one off from 2006!
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1960-morris-mini-minor-ms-twiggy-mini (https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1960-morris-mini-minor-ms-twiggy-mini)
Quote from: woodbury22uk on August 19, 2017, 08:52:35 PM
Turns out the Floral Mini is a one off from 2006!
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1960-morris-mini-minor-ms-twiggy-mini (https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1960-morris-mini-minor-ms-twiggy-mini)
Thanks for the link
Was on my mind to ask if anyone knew why the mini was painted like that, it did see an bit off the wall!
Quote from: woodbury22uk on August 19, 2017, 08:52:35 PM
Turns out the Floral Mini is a one off from 2006!
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1960-morris-mini-minor-ms-twiggy-mini (https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1960-morris-mini-minor-ms-twiggy-mini)
Well, I can remember Mini's being on virtually every Street, but to release a one off does seem just a tad surprising.
The 60s onwards is not my modelling era, but it seems for those who do model it they are crying out for representative vehicles. The 1970s appears to be void of many very popular cars in the Oxford range.
Many times on this forum the point has been made about glaring ommisions, but to little effect. I think the emerging 3D producers may start to fill some of the vehicle gaps.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on August 19, 2017, 08:52:35 PM
Turns out the Floral Mini is a one off from 2006!
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1960-morris-mini-minor-ms-twiggy-mini (https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1960-morris-mini-minor-ms-twiggy-mini)
Found it ( no Twiggy alas)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/941-200817080152.jpeg)
Quote from: trkilliman on August 20, 2017, 07:28:36 AM
Well, I can remember Mini's being on virtually every Street, but to release a one off does seem just a tad surprising.
The 60s onwards is not my modelling era, but it seems for those who do model it they are crying out for representative vehicles. The 1970s appears to be void of many very popular cars in the Oxford range.
Many times on this forum the point has been made about glaring ommisions, but to little effect. I think the emerging 3D producers may start to fill some of the vehicle gaps.
Oxford has a habit of doing one offs, and low production vehicles. The Floral Mini is made in 3 scales. In larger scales they have a history of making Royal Family vehicles, alongside Mr. Bean's Mini, the Leyland drawbar car transporter, BMC Competitions workshop, etc. At least for the Floral Mini it is just a recolour of an existing model.
At the beginning of June Oxford indicated that from about now there would be a "perfect storm" of deliveries of a lot of the new shapes announced in 2016. Most of these are run of the mill vehicles, although only one addresses the 1970s car gap.
Hmmm. not sure about Oxford vehicles, always think they look a bit clunky
and blobby when compared with plastic rolling stock.
Quote from: broadsword on August 20, 2017, 09:47:06 AM
Hmmm. not sure about Oxford vehicles, always think they look a bit clunky
and blobby when compared with plastic rolling stock.
I am inclined to agree that quite a number of them lack finesse, accurate shape, and even accurate scale - which is a bit ironic when we insist on a nominal 1/148 scale, and turn away from say 1/160. The Utility bus and the ice creams vans - Bedford CA and Mercedes - definitely miss the mark for me on scale and shape.
On the other hand things like the modern haulage tractor units, and modern coaches and buses seem to be much more precise. It will be interesting to see whether the (BMW) Mini and the Jaguar XF follow this trend, given that the starting point for the XF at least was the manufacturer's CAD file. I know already that the Cortina Mk3 will seem clunky.
Of course it is not just Oxford that struggles on shape. The recent Herpa Fiat Panda and the Wiking Land Rover in 1/160 are suspect on shape and detail, whereas the Busch Land Rover Defender in 1/160 seems closer to the mark.
Perhaps due to the manufacturing process, but some of the OD models
lack crispness, mind you I only have about 3-4 of them, perhaps not
possible to get finer door pillars or headlamp detail etc.
Yes I have to agree about how some Oxford models look good, whilst others can look clunky. I think the tractors they brought out exemplify the point. Such a huge clunky front axle that really spoit them.
Just been browing Osborne's site and they are making some steady progress with vehicles. 3D printing is somewhat replacing white metal, and it may start to bite into the sales of diecast vehicles over time. If some of the most wanted vehicles are produced in quality 3D it may occur sooner than I/we expect...
Quote from: woodbury22uk on August 15, 2017, 10:06:42 PM
A few Retrorepro Escort RS in this photo. They are 1/145 and well detailed.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1599-150817220508.jpeg)
OK, am well impressed with these, where can I get them and what else is in their range?
Best wishes
Simon
Quote from: bridgiesimon on September 02, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on August 15, 2017, 10:06:42 PM
A few Retrorepro Escort RS in this photo. They are 1/145 and well detailed.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1599-150817220508.jpeg)
OK, am well impressed with these, where can I get them and what else is in their range?
Best wishes
Simon
There about 160 in the range:-
https://www.retrorepro.fr/4733-etain-1 (https://www.retrorepro.fr/4733-etain-1)
Seems they are 1/145 scale though some of the French cars may be smaller. I can vouch for the Mk1 Escort being 1/145 or thereabouts. I bought a multipack of 10 but he was out of stock of some cars and in the end I chose as many Escorts as he had plus some others to make up the numbers.
The new psychadelic Mini ( the M&S Twiggy special)- I had to have one!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/941-050917105559-549821520.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/941-050917105555-54981184.jpeg)
and to show its genuine!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/941-050917105546-549741163.jpeg)
(the new bulk upload is now the easiest way to load even single images!)
at the risk of repeating myself
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/941-200817080152.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/941-050917190841-55027547.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/941-050917190839-550252364.jpeg)
Eight new items being delivered week commencing 11 September 2017.
NAP003 Austin Princess (Late) - Carlton Grey/Lt Grey
NCMP001 CMP - 1st Canadian Infantry Division
NCMP007 CMP - Southdown
NFARM001 Livestock Trailer
NFARM002 Farm Trailer
NMA001 Mercedes Ambulance - Wales
NMB002 Mercedes Actros Curtainside artic
NVOL4006 Volvo FH4 Walking Floor - A W Jenkinson
Seven of these are completely new shapes.
NVOL4006 has a new tractor unit, and trailer.
NMB002 was previously released in Stobart livery.
Still no "New Mini" for Allanbrae
I will look to buy the farm trailers at some point, but will wait to see the finished articles and for more of the 'future' releases first.
i have put together a list of the 32 items announced but not yet delivered. This includes a duplicated item NFL001 which is also in NSET003. Another set of new announcements is expected at the end of September 2017. The number of announced but undelivered items at 1 January 2017 was 34. 29 items have been delivered so far in 2017, including 7 from the end January 2017 announcements.
Announced 2016 or earlier 22 items delivered out of 34 on the original list.
NAEC014 AEC Matador Wrecker - Southdown - September 2017
NCOR3001 Cortina MkIII - Gold - September 2017
NDSC001 Daimler Dingo - 23rd Armoured Brigade - September 2017
NFARM003 Baler October 2017
NMGB001 MGB Roadster - Tartan Red - September 2017
NNMN001 New Mini - Chili Red - September 2017
NPB005 Commer PB van - London Fire
NPB008 Commer PB van - Royal Mail
NSET003 5 Piece bus/coach set – Southdown - September 2017
NSHL01CT Scania Highline D-TEC Combitrailer - Container Eddie Stobart October 2017
NWFA001 Weymann Fanfare coach AEC - South Wales NEW TOOL
NWFL001. Weymann Fanfare coach - Leyland – Southdown NEW TOOL * (not officially announced)
Announced end January 2017 7 items already delivered from this announcement of 10.
NCT005 Citroen 2CV Plum/Custard
NMB004 Mercedes Actros D-TEC Combitrailer Trailer John Mitchell NEW TOOL
NSHL02WF Scania Highline Walking Floor Stobart Biomass NEW TOOL
Announced June 2017 0 items delivered from 17 announced.
NBSA008 Motorbike & Sidecar RAF Blue
NCHT001 Churchill Tank Kingforce NEW TOOL
NFDE001 Ford 400E Van British Rail NEW TOOL
NFT022 Ford Transit Mk5 Network Rail Response Unit
NHI001 Hillman Imp Willow Green NEW TOOL
NLAN188020 Land Rover Series I 88" Canvas REME
NLRL001 Land Rover Lightweight United Nations NEW TOOL
NMB006 Mercedes Actros Curtainside Sparks
NNR005 New Routemaster Propercorn
NSEA001 Burlingham Seagull Wallace Arnold NEW TOOL
NSFE007 Scania Pump Ladder Surrey F & R
NSHL03TK Scania Highline Tanker Eddie Stobart NEW TOOL Tanker
NTCAB005 Scania T Cab Tipper Tinnelly
NTRAC004 Fordson Tractor Matt Grey
NTRAIL006 Mobile Trailer Buns on Wheels
NVOL4003 Volvo FH4 Curtainside Knowles
NXF001 Jaguar XF Carnelian Red NEW TOOL
I had missed the announcement of the Jag XF. That will be a second car of the correct period for Allanbrae so I will have one. Good. Just things more ordinary, like everyday Ford, Vauxhalls needed , to better populate the Station, Kwikfit and Premier Inn car parks.
It will be interesting to see what they make of the Fordson tractor.
It surely has to be an improvement on their previous offering with the huge front axle area.
I imagine that further farm stuff will sell well, given that many of us have rural areas on our layouts.
I have a picture in a magazine somewhere of David Brown tractors being transported by rail from their factory siding. I assume Fordson used the rail network also. Freight potential then...
Quote from: trkilliman on September 06, 2017, 05:06:31 PM
It will be interesting to see what they make of the Fordson tractor.
It surely has to be an improvement on their previous offering with the huge front axle area.
Sorry to disappoint but the Fordson has the same huge axle bearings! Looks dreadful to me. Already available in several colours.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148/products/fordson-tractor-blue-ntrac001 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148/products/fordson-tractor-blue-ntrac001)
The better British tractors are the Ferguson lookalikes made by Hornby Lyddle End, but long sold out.
http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/toys/2-tractors-n8068.asp (http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/toys/2-tractors-n8068.asp)
Quote from: woodbury22uk on September 06, 2017, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: trkilliman on September 06, 2017, 05:06:31 PM
It will be interesting to see what they make of the Fordson tractor.
It surely has to be an improvement on their previous offering with the huge front axle area.
Sorry to disappoint but the Fordson has the same huge axle bearings! Looks dreadful to me. Already available in several colours.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148/products/fordson-tractor-blue-ntrac001 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148/products/fordson-tractor-blue-ntrac001)
The better British tractors are the Ferguson lookalikes made by Hornby Lyddle End, but long sold out.
http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/toys/2-tractors-n8068.asp (http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/toys/2-tractors-n8068.asp)
Oh' dear, I had hoped they would have come up with something better than that clumsy front axle. Oxford do seem reticent to listen and learn on several fronts. And before anyone flames me no I cannot afford to commision my own tractor! lol
I am not sure that I understand why the N gauge models need to have wheels that revolve. Take away that requirement and an accurate moulded pair of front stub axles on the tractors becomes quite possible. Aside from the tractors, I'd be interested to know whether wheels that revolve are needed by N railways modellers. I can see that for most vehicles fixed wheels would not affect the appearance, and would do away with some individual parts at the expense of a more complicated chassis moulding. It would make parking vehicles with wheels turned away from straight a slightly more difficult modification than it is with separately moulded (revolving) wheels.
Mine are all glued down. So i dont need revolving wheels. But that is my uasage.
Mine are all glued down because one of my mates kept on hiding vehicles in the most ridiculous places .but I do understand that wheels on axles are easier to change direction if you wanted to.
Bob Tidbury
Bedford CMP LORRY NOW AVAILABLE
£6.55!!!
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/bedford-cmp-1st-canadian-infantry-div-ncmp001/?variant=20689436227&customer=ndprobinson@gmail.com (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/bedford-cmp-1st-canadian-infantry-div-ncmp001/?variant=20689436227&customer=ndprobinson@gmail.com)
This month's releases on their way to retailers and in Oxford's own shop;-
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in)
Six newly announced items have been listed on Oxford Diecast's website this evening in advance of their formal announcement over the coming week. These are all re-colours of existing or previously announced shapes. The first colours of the Cortina Mk3, Daimler Dingo and Weymann Fanfare have not yet been delivered.
NAP004 Austin Princess – Black/Royal Claret
NCT006 Citroen 2CV Charleston – two tone grey
NCOR3002 Ford Cortina Mk3 – Daytona Yellow
NDEF002 Land Rover Defender – Royal Mail Postbus
NDSC002 Daimler Dingo Scout Car – 10th Mounted Rifles
NWFL001 Weymann Fanfare coach – Southdown (previously only formally announced as part of a set)
Images are available here:-
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148)
Edit:- Page no longer shows the new announcements due next weekend.
These appear to have been taken down , The link is also broken in a notice on the oxford wish list facebook page
I guess the page will reappear after the formal announcement next weekend.
I have emails from Oxford today saying he Chilli Red Mini and the MGB Roadster are now available.
I don't know if others have been released, these were just the two I asked to be notified about.
Thanks for the heads up @daffy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5634)
Seven new items now released, all including the first release of new tooling.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?constraint=1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?constraint=1-148)
NAEC014 AEC Matador Wrecker – Southdown NEW TOOL
NCOR3001 Cortina MkIII - Gold NEW TOOL
NDSC001 Daimler Dingo - 23rd Armoured Brigade NEW TOOL
NFARM003 Baler NEW TOOL
NMGB001 MGB Roadster - Tartan Red NEW TOOL
NNMN001 New Mini - Chili Red NEW TOOL
NSET003 5 Piece bus/coach set – Southdown includes 1 x NEW TOOL
NSET003 includes NWFL001 the Weymann Fanfare coach not yet released individually.
Post #1 and #157 updated.
Great. The new Mini
The photo of the Mini on Oxford's site may not do the model justice, so I would be interested in seeing any pics members may take when they receive their model of this, or the MGB for that matter.
As I'm modelling Continental I have recently ordered the 2-model set of the New Mini as produced by Herpa.de at 1/160 scale, model ref 065252-003. Size differences aside, a comparison would be interesting between the Oxford diecast and the Herpa plastic rendering of the original design.
Here's an online pic of the Herpa Minis:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/5634-260917120556.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56184)
Plastic is always going to be better for crisp details in my opinion... my guess is that fluid dynamics in the mould plays a part in what detail can be achieved. Warhammer stuff is the same... plastic kits always seem to have much greater crisp detail than the white metal ones. Oxford models generally seem to lack that level of details. Not sure if Oxford tooling is so much less detailed than it could be, or if the thick paintwork just deadens it, but the mini looks very disappointing.
Quote from: Mustermark on September 26, 2017, 01:15:46 PM
Plastic is always going to be better for crisp details in my opinion... my guess is that fluid dynamics in the mould plays a part in what detail can be achieved. Warhammer stuff is the same... plastic kits always seem to have much greater crisp detail than the white metal ones. Oxford models generally seem to lack that level of details. Not sure if Oxford tooling is so much less detailed than it could be, or if the thick paintwork just deadens it, but the mini looks very disappointing.
The Oxford Mini is plastic too. I see Oxford car models in 1/76 and 1/148 in particular as caricatures of the real car. They start with a perfectly accurate CAD and then doctor it to emphasise some features. One thing that grates all the time is wheel size. The Mini's look too small to me, and the Cortina's too large on the n versions which is a carry over from the 1/76 versions. Sometimes it is simply the tyre is the wrong profile - too many 1:1 section tyres on cars which had much squatter profiles.
Quote from: Railwaygun on September 12, 2017, 02:44:57 PM
Bedford CMP LORRY NOW AVAILABLE
£6.55!!!
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/bedford-cmp-1st-canadian-infantry-div-ncmp001/?variant=20689436227&customer=ndprobinson@gmail.com (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/bedford-cmp-1st-canadian-infantry-div-ncmp001/?variant=20689436227&customer=ndprobinson@gmail.com)
Anybody know where the fuel tank was on the CMP? Can't see an obvious one on the Oxford model in 1/76 or 1/148.
I find the whole nose of the mgb unconvincing ,but will still buy one
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1970-260917135742.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56188)
The fuel tank should be between under the door and bed with the filler in between I have seen examples of the Chevrolet with tanks on both sides but examining my model there are none
https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fa.gaw.to%2Fphotos%2F0%2F3%2F3%2F033439_CMP_1941_tout_un_truck_d_armee.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guideautoweb.com%2Fen%2Fgalleries%2F6050%2Fcmp-1944-tout-un-%27truck%27-d%27armee%2F%3Fim%3D2&docid=deKgSawZJO1cXM&tbnid=dv17qu0kH27-HM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwiJtvzC9sLWAhUIDcAKHQSZAso4ZBAzCCAoHjAe..i&w=640&h=400&bih=676&biw=1366&q=chevrolet%20cmp&ved=0ahUKEwiJtvzC9sLWAhUIDcAKHQSZAso4ZBAzCCAoHjAe&iact=mrc&uact=8 (https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fa.gaw.to%2Fphotos%2F0%2F3%2F3%2F033439_CMP_1941_tout_un_truck_d_armee.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guideautoweb.com%2Fen%2Fgalleries%2F6050%2Fcmp-1944-tout-un-%27truck%27-d%27armee%2F%3Fim%3D2&docid=deKgSawZJO1cXM&tbnid=dv17qu0kH27-HM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwiJtvzC9sLWAhUIDcAKHQSZAso4ZBAzCCAoHjAe..i&w=640&h=400&bih=676&biw=1366&q=chevrolet%20cmp&ved=0ahUKEwiJtvzC9sLWAhUIDcAKHQSZAso4ZBAzCCAoHjAe&iact=mrc&uact=8)
Oxford diecast has been discussed many times. I think we have to remember that before they came along we relied heavily on lumps of whitemetal, so Oxford are in general a great improvement.
That said, they do deliver some real surprises...those tractors being a prime example. They can introduce a really good model, and the next introdution will be a let down in one or perhaps several ways. The Foden brewers dray (Fremlins) is a nice model with intricate decoration. I think it's somewhat let down by having just a moulded plastic full load of crates...a few barrels would improve it. Yes you can buy some great barrels from the likes of Peedie models, but it seems to me an ommision on Oxfords part. The crates moulding has the dray chains moulded around the outside, so they probably did this instead of using actual fine link chain and barrels. Cost?
Base Toys, (B.T.) are a welcome addition, but IMO come a second to Oxford. The cabs are thicker with radiators etc often printed, and the flatbeds are often not sat flat but in wind. It can be sorted with maybe a bit if filing and/or packing with slithers of plasticard. I have been swapping cabs and chassis around with both makes to achieve different combinations, and this is when you come to appreciated the differences. As for the Oxford M.G. the bonnet looks a tad short to me.
On looking at it again I think the MG would be improved by painting the light bezels and grill surround silver
I'm in two minds deciding if I want to buy a Daimler Dingo https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/daimler-dingo-23rd-armoured-brigade-ndsc001 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/daimler-dingo-23rd-armoured-brigade-ndsc001)
Although they weren't used by the Home Guard (correct me), one of those would be a useful addition to my fictitious Home Guard museum because a light armoured vehicle would fill a gap in my display.
Quote from: gc4946 on September 26, 2017, 05:37:52 PM
I'm in two minds deciding if I want to buy a Daimler Dingo https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/daimler-dingo-23rd-armoured-brigade-ndsc001 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/daimler-dingo-23rd-armoured-brigade-ndsc001)
Although they weren't used by the Home Guard (correct me), one of those would be a useful addition to my fictitious Home Guard museum because a light armoured vehicle would fill a gap in my display.
Have you attempted to recreate Jones's van?
No, because I don't know if there's a model of the base vehicle (Ford BB box van) available https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones%27_van_(Dad%27s_Army)
Having said that, the Ford BB would be a useful addition to the limited range available for a pre-WW2 layout, with good sales - I imagine - for the Dad's Army version.
R.Parker do a simple white metal kit of a Fordson BB with a cattle/livestock body which needs a little bit of doctoring with plasticard to convert to a plausible van.
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/82-160717182827.jpeg (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/82-160717182827.jpeg)
Quote from: woodbury22uk on September 12, 2017, 02:51:06 PM
This month's releases on their way to retailers and in Oxford's own shop;-
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in)
Doesn't seem Hattons has the New Mini I pre-ordered yet.
Quote from: Bornin1980something on September 30, 2017, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on September 12, 2017, 02:51:06 PM
This month's releases on their way to retailers and in Oxford's own shop;-
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in)
Doesn't seem Hattons has the New Mini I pre-ordered yet.
Hattons had a full stocktake this week and do not appear to have booked in any new stock since 25 September.
So when will it come?
My new Oxford Diecast cars arrived:-
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1599-031017133551.jpeg)
That Cortina looks nice. Could do with these in plain colours also for replicating Ford Carflat trains.
Now that Lyndon Davis is the CEO of Hornby and still boss of Oxford Diecast what will happen to the N gauge side of Oxford Diecast and will Hornby start doing N Gauge now.?
Bob Tidbury
Quote from: crepello on October 03, 2017, 02:37:13 PM
That Cortina looks nice. Could do with these in plain colours also for replicating Ford Carflat trains.
This one is in Thursday's new announcements:-
NCOR3002 Ford Cortina Mk3 – Daytona Yellow
Quote from: woodbury22uk on October 03, 2017, 01:40:14 PM
My new Oxford Diecast cars arrived:-
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1599-031017133551.jpeg)
My New MINI still hasn't been sent out. Maybe I ordered it from the wrong place, although I don't really need it until November. Where did you order yours from?
Quote from: Bornin1980something on October 04, 2017, 03:54:55 PM
My New MINI still hasn't been sent out. Maybe I ordered it from the wrong place, although I don't really need it until November. Where did you order yours from?
Mine came direct from the Oxford Diecast on-line shop. Unfortunately it appears that Hattons have had some problems following their stocktake last week, which has disrupted receiving stock, showing this as live stock, and then sending ordered items out. Hopefully they will resolve their issues shortly. Today is the first day they have shown received new stock since 25 September, and the Oxford items are not in the very short list of items received.
The official announcement of the next batch of new items planned has just been released by Oxford's MD on Facebook page of the Oxford Diecast Collectors Group.
There are 10 vehicles, 4 more than I reported a couple of weeks back.
NAP004 Austin Princess (Late) Black/Royal Claret Q1/2018
NCOR3002 Cortina MkIII Daytona Yellow Q1/2018
NCT006 Citroen 2CV Charleston Two Tone Grey Q1/2018
NMGB002 MGB Roadster Pale Primrose Q1/2018
NNMN002 New Mini Pepper White Q1/2018
NDEF002 Land Rover Defender Royal Mail Q1/2018
NMA002 Mercedes Ambulance London Q1/2018
NDSC002 Daimler Dingo 10th Mounted Rifles Q1/2018
NLRL002 Land Rover Lightweight Military Police Q1/2018
NWFL001 Weymann Fanfare Southdown Q1/2018
Of these none is new tooling, although the first release of the lightweight Land Rover, announced in June 2017, has not yet been released.
Photos of production versions of the D-TEC Container trucks, Kingforce tank, Jaguar XF, Hillman Imp, the new coach shapes, Ford 400E van, lightweight Land Rover and many others should be on the OD website tomorrow. I am impressed
by the Jaguar, the Land Rover and the D-TECs in particular.
This is a resumé of the 34 items announced and planned for release over the next 6 months, though some will slip beyond that period I am sure.
* denotes new tooling.
NAP004 Austin Princess – Black/Royal Claret
NBSA008 Motorbike & Sidecar RAF Blue
NCHT001 Churchill Tank Kingforce *
NCT005 Citroen 2CV Plum/Custard 11/2017
NCT006 Citroen 2CV Charleston – two tone grey
NCOR3002 Ford Cortina Mk3 – Daytona Yellow
NDEF002 Land Rover Defender – Royal Mail Postbus
NDSC002 Daimler Dingo Scout Car – 10th Mounted Rifles
NFDE001 Ford 400E Van British Rail * 12/2017
NFT022 Ford Transit Mk5 Network Rail Response Unit
NHI001 Hillman Imp Willow Green*
NLAN188020 Land Rover Series I 88" Canvas REME
NLRL001 Land Rover Lightweight United Nations*
NLRL002 Land Rover Lightweight Military Police*
NMA002 Mercedes Ambulance London
NMB004 Mercedes Actros D-TEC Combitrailer Trailer John Mitchell
NMB006 Mercedes Actros Curtainside Sparks
NMGB002 MGB Roadster Pale Primrose
NNMN002 New Mini Pepper White
NNR005 New Routemaster Propercorn
NPB005 Commer PB van - London Fire 11/2017
NPB008 Commer PB van - Royal Mail
NSEA001 Burlingham Seagull Wallace Arnold * 12/2017
NSFE007 Scania Pump Ladder Surrey F & R
NSHL01CT Scania Highline D-TEC Combitrailer - Container Eddie Stobart * 11/2017
NSHL02WF Scania Highline Walking Floor Stobart Biomass 11/2017
NSHL03TK Scania Highline Tanker Eddie Stobart *
NTCAB005 Scania T Cab Tipper Tinnelly
NTRAC004 Fordson Tractor Matt Grey
NTRAIL006 Mobile Trailer Buns on Wheels
NVOL4003 Volvo FH4 Curtainside Knowles
NWFA001 Weymann Fanfare South Wales * 11/2017
NWFL001 Weymann Fanfare coach – Leyland -Southdown
NXF001 Jaguar XF Carnelian Red * 12/2017
Items in red subsequently released
Outline drawings of the new items announced yesterday.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1599-061017093457.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/941-061017095057.png)
Curses, for a moment there I though that last Vauxhall was part of the 1:148 range
Quote from: railsquid on October 06, 2017, 11:28:38 AM
Curses, for a moment there I though that last Vauxhall was part of the 1:148 range
Me too, I guess it was too much to hope for...
Just bought these at Glasgow Vintage Vehicle Trust open day , did not know bailer was available .
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1970-071017173521.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56439)
The new baler etc...can anyone say what date (roughly) these are from? Thanks.
The baler looks very much like the type sold through a dealer near my childhood home, when I would have been 14 or so, so that would be the mid-1960's.
The livestock trailer is identical to one on the farm where I lived from 1976 to 2006, where it was in daily use throughout. How long it had been there prior to 1976 don't know.
Are these the 1:76 versions?
The baler is unusual as they generally displayed the manufacturer's name/logo and were painted accordingly. This one looks like a generic version.
The baler I was thinking of was a Massey Ferguson, classically red. I'm surprised these models, available from Oxford in 1/76 and 1/148 now, seem oddly generic, as mentioned. Perhaps Oxford had difficulties obtaining permissions to make them more specific to a manufacturer. :hmmm:
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on October 07, 2017, 05:36:56 PM
Just bought these at Glasgow Vintage Vehicle Trust open day , did not know bailer was available .
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1970-071017173521.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56439)
Thanks for that information. Master lists updated.
I'm waiting for the baler from Hattons although various other suppliers are showing stock. It does look as though a coat of paint will make it a bit more interesting.
The livestock and open trailer arrived last week.
Dave G
Thanks for your comments. Yes I think they are generic, and a coat of paint in your chosen colour will make them look a lot better. I reckon I will go for red with the baler...
When I saw Austin Princess I thought it was the BL 80s wedge shaped monster :( my stepfather had one. It was very comfy as I recall but that's about the only nice thing I can say about it.
Mk3 cortina for me. My second car although in white. Was like driving a football pitch. The screen wash was a rubber bulb in the footwell you had to pump with your foot to get a dribble of screen wash to smear across the windscreen.
Ditto on the vauxhall as well.
C. :)
Quote from: ChrisWV10 on October 07, 2017, 11:03:22 PM
When I saw Austin Princess I thought it was the BL 80s wedge shaped monster :( my stepfather had one. It was very comfy as I recall but that's about the only nice thing I can say about it.
Yup, that's what I keep thinking, but it's this earlier version (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Princess).
My father also had one of the wedge ones, was the last British car he ever owned.
Holds its water quite well though: https://youtu.be/bf7q8lWEd-o?t=7m24s
BL Wedge; I had one and yup, very comfortable but in a heavy crosswind on the M6, life became interesting!
Sold it soon after which the water pump packed up so had to fix. At least you could fix them in those days -without 'special tools' - and a laptop.
Wish Oxford would do more pre 60s cars. I know you can get white metal kits but I can't visually mix them on the layout with the Oxford offerings.
Dave G
Four young adults in a blue Austin Princess in the late '70's . Rainy day on a waterlogged campsite. All dressed in 17th century costume. Folk dance music on the stereo. How to pass the time? :hmmm:
Gents go left and the girls go right, and doh-see-doh your partners! - without opening the doors. :D
And repeat till bored.
About the best I can say about the Princess.
Quote from: railsquid on October 08, 2017, 01:09:19 AM
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Holds its water quite well though: https://youtu.be/bf7q8lWEd-o?t=7m24s
Built for British summers. :D
Ordered my "new Mini " and a couple of other items. I will have the Jaguar XF when it appears.
Quote from: trkilliman on October 07, 2017, 08:56:03 PM
Thanks for your comments. Yes I think they are generic, and a coat of paint in your chosen colour will make them look a lot better. I reckon I will go for red with the baler...
By coincidence this green Claas baler by Wiking in 1/160 scale just showed up on Hattons website.
http://www.hattons.co.uk/40784/Wiking_9594026_Claas_Markant_Baler/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.hattons.co.uk/40784/Wiking_9594026_Claas_Markant_Baler/StockDetail.aspx)
Also from Wiking, round balers by Claas:
095901 - Claas 250 round baler, green and white (discontinued)
095902 - Claas 355 round baler, green and grey - current.
First number is the Wiking part number.
As with most Wiking models they have improved them with each release. For those interested in farming vehicles, the Wiking website is well worth exploring for both their current and 'Archive', or discontinued stock. Of course the scale is 1/160.
https://www.wiking.de/en/sortiment/miniatures-1-160.html (https://www.wiking.de/en/sortiment/miniatures-1-160.html)
Appears Hattons now has my New MINI in stock. Maybe they will send it out once they've got round to photographing it.
Just one new item in the batch of models being released next week:-
NSHL01CT Scania D-TEC Combitrailer Eddie Stobart with Tesco "Less CO2" Container
Few people waiting for this @Ben A (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=94)
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/scania-highline-d-tec-combitrailer-container-eddie-stobart-nshl01ct (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/scania-highline-d-tec-combitrailer-container-eddie-stobart-nshl01ct)
https://www.directrailservices.com/intermodal- (https://www.directrailservices.com/intermodal-)–-tesco.html. will need to put tesco in the search field on the DRS page.
Nice to see the Daimler Dingo is now out. I was thinking of a small military outpost diorama for which it would be good. Was also hoping for the REME Land Rover. Hopefully soon.
My "new Mini" has arrived. It will go in the car park on the front of Allanbrae. The old style Mini with Union Jack roof I bought at the same time will be in the Kwik Fit depot at the rear. Our piano tuner had one up to a couple of years ago, so mixing them is fine.
Well, my New MINI has arrived this morning. I was expecting to wait longer, as Hattons announced when it was processed but not when it was packed.
I've noticed that it is 09 registered and the correct shape for the years 2007 to 2014. However, I also noticed that Oxford have continued their tradition of putting out the more obscure models by giving the car a hood scoop, marking it out as the Cooper S, rather than the more common type (on the prototype, the scoop is little more than a cosmetic feature). That, and the upcoming Jaguar XF, would mark out most modern layouts as home to well-to-do motorists.
As the model itself, it's paint job is quite typical for Oxford items – very detailed, but often off target.
Proof the minis sit well together,taken in the Ikea car park
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1970-141017200655.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56690)
I see one Mini and two BMW oxymorons.
:laughabovepost:
Amen brother!
Put one of those BMW versions next to an original MK1; y'know, the one with sliding windows and a floor mounted start button.
The size difference is even more obvious.
Dave G
i think the BMW 1s have been taking steroids!!
latest OD email (lets hope the Mini is mispriced!) - and E-type is O!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/941-201017211027.png)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/941-201017211402.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56966)
Damn! Saw the E Type and went all giddy for a moment. :uneasy:
The Tesco "Less CO2" containers just released have cutouts around the top cornercasting/twistlock points. On the 1/76 versions these cutouts have a purpose for use with the Konecranes stacker truck. This is a sure sign IMHO that Oxford will be replicating the container lifter from the 1/76 range in 1/148 scale.
That would be a useful scenic accessory. Pity the containers have to be disfigured but filling in the cutouts is not a major job.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/konecranes-reach-stacker-maritime-transport-76krs006 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/konecranes-reach-stacker-maritime-transport-76krs006)
Hi Mike,
Good spot - I wondered what the cutouts were!
I really hope they do the reach stacker (though Tomytec have done one in the past) but it's possible that the N model is just a straight copy of the 4mm container and no one told the CAD designer to omit the cutouts...
Cheers
Ben A.
Quote from: Ben A on October 25, 2017, 02:13:45 PM
Hi Mike,
Good spot - I wondered what the cutouts were!
I really hope they do the reach stacker (though Tomytec have done one in the past) but it's possible that the N model is just a straight copy of the 4mm container and no one told the CAD designer to omit the cutouts...
Cheers
Ben A.
Thankfully the cutouts are a little bit more discrete on the 1/76 one.....but I take your point.
The new version of the Oxford Diecast catalogue is now available in .pdf format:-
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/3257/files/OCT_17-JAN_18.pdf?14786873644164522567 (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/3257/files/OCT_17-JAN_18.pdf?14786873644164522567)
The N stuff is on pages 31-37 and page 43. Some items shown as Q4/2017 release are already with retailers. The full range available can be seen here:-
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/by-scale?constraint=1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/by-scale?constraint=1-148)
Thanks Mike. I do quite like looking at the OO stuff too, and try to get a clue of what the distant future might hold for N - DAF 85 Parcelforce and DAF XF Livestock Trailer would be nice. :drool:
I received a Cortina MkIII in gold recently, and I thought it was pretty good. Not the crude, clunky metal object I was expecting, but a quite nicely detailed plastic model. So, I phoned Hattons and have a few coming for my carflats. I also saw the Cortina will come soon in yellow, so I pre-ordered a couple of those too.
Does anyone know if Oxford plans to do any more colour variants of this car?
It would be good to have another couple of colours on a delivery train...
Knowing OD, most certain that they will do other colour varients. Remember that they have their development costs to cover and other colours add to sales figures.
Best wishes
Simon
Good to learn that the Cortina has come out well but plastic?
It may well be that OD have moved some of their model production over to plastic and that big news has passed me by but can @Mustermark (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=103) kindly confirm.
Dave G
Quote from: daveg on November 03, 2017, 08:22:48 AM
Good to learn that the Cortina has come out well but plastic?
It may well be that OD have moved some of their model production over to plastic and that big news has passed me by but can @Mustermark (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=103) kindly confirm.
Dave G
The only diecast bits are the chassis for most vehicles now. Even the early cars were plastic, and the newly tooled buses and coaches from the Utility bus onwards are clear plastic bodied. The level of detail on the plastic is often impressive, but some is hidden by a thick layer of colour. I think wheels are the big let down at the moment, or more specifically axle length and tyre profiles. A modern car with a 100 tyre profile looks very odd. Reminds me of an old Malta Ford Thames ET6 bus I saw in the 1990s which had been fitted with low profile radial tyres. Looked real boy-racer material next to a conventional tyred vehicles.
Quote from: bridgiesimon on November 03, 2017, 07:24:45 AM
Knowing OD, most certain that they will do other colour varients. Remember that they have their development costs to cover and other colours add to sales figures.
Best wishes
Simon
The 1/76 Cortina Mk3 is on its eighth version, albeit some two are police versions and rally versions.
Rally version, oo yes please!!
Quote from: bridgiesimon on November 03, 2017, 10:16:22 AM
Rally version, oo yes please!!
Sorry to disappoint. The 1/76 car is a Noel Edmonds Racing rather than rally car.
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/ford/products/ford-cortina-mk3-noel-edmonds-76cor3007 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/ford/products/ford-cortina-mk3-noel-edmonds-76cor3007)
Just ordered 3 of the D-Tec combi trailers. I don't care about the Tesco containers or the cabs for that matter. I'll be mixing and matching assorted containers on the backs of these.
Three's just the start, if I get to do an intermodal terminal, I'll need more trailers.
BTW I got a Train Save Reach Stacker, it's 1/160, I think but looks OK, can't pick up a container though!.
Regards,
John P
P&D Marsh do white metal trailers
www.pdmarshmodels.com (http://www.pdmarshmodels.com)
Link to page
http://www.pdmarshmodels.com/product_list.php?gauge=%27N%27&cat2=%2795%27 (http://www.pdmarshmodels.com/product_list.php?gauge=%27N%27&cat2=%2795%27)
Also the containers un-clip from the 1/150 Tomytec trailers
These are nice little models and better than the chunky white metal models
Four new releases scheduled for next week:-
NCT005 Citroen 2CV Plum/Custard
NPB005 Commer PB van - London Fire
NSHL02WF Scania Highline Walking Floor - Stobart Biomass
NWFA001 Weymann Fanfare coach AEC - South Wales
This is the first release of the Weymann Fanfare coach.
Hornby Hobbies has raised an additional £12 million in share capital today and plans to use £1.6 million of it to buy 49% of LCD Enterprises, the holding company for Oxford Diecast Limited.
Bedtime reading here on page 132 and post #3281. Sleep well.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108082-hornbys-financial-updates-to-the-stock-market/?p=2927234 (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108082-hornbys-financial-updates-to-the-stock-market/?p=2927234)
I didn't see that coming. 8)
Quote from: RailGooner on October 03, 2017, 07:48:39 PM
Is this the precursor to an Oxford Diecast buyout of Hornby? :D
I understand that Hornby have made a number of acquisitions themselves in the last few years. Hornby have issued a warning to shareholders, and they have said there will be no knockdown of prices to retailers.
Something seems to have gone wrong for them.
Is there more products than ever out there, so they have been competing for market share?
Have some of their acquistions been expensive to buy, and/or have underperformed ?(IMO Humbrol acrylics are pretty poor, and their varnish has also come in for a lot of flack)
Bachmann have been out shopping for other manufacturers. Maybe Hornby & Oxford joining up gives them both a sense of protection, or conversely a sense of more potential value?
It will be intersting to see how this unfolds, and importantly for us any advantages it may bring.
Interesting times ahead maybe...
I had a chat with a couple of Oxford people at Warley and pointed out a Blue (Midland General/Notts & Derby/Alexanders) Lodekka would be a nice model.
It hadn't occurred to them to do it (according to one of the two I mentioned it to) but they have taken the idea on board.
Here's hoping.
Les
That was a good suggestion Les, it would suit those that model this area of the U.K. and also offer a change from Tilling red or green that may bore some.
I like the Lodekka (maybe I'm biased having worked for the Bristol manufacturer until closure)
It's a shame about the models overly thick step on the rear entrance/exit, but i can live with it.
I live in hope that one day a manufacturer will do models of the Bristol K & L types, that preceeded the Lodekka. Like the Lodekka they were in huge numbers throughout most of the U.K.
Quote from: trkilliman on November 18, 2017, 07:32:21 PM
I understand that Hornby have made a number of acquisitions themselves in the last few years. Hornby have issued a warning to shareholders, and they have said there will be no knockdown of prices to retailers.
Something seems to have gone wrong for them.
Is there more products than ever out there, so they have been competing for market share?
Have some of their acquistions been expensive to buy, and/or have underperformed ?(IMO Humbrol acrylics are pretty poor, and their varnish has also come in for a lot of flack)
Bachmann have been out shopping for other manufacturers. Maybe Hornby & Oxford joining up gives them both a sense of protection, or conversely a sense of more potential value?
It will be intersting to see how this unfolds, and importantly for us any advantages it may bring.
Interesting times ahead maybe...
IIRC some years ago Airfix [ie Hornby] bought the JB models range of 1/76 British military vehicles, a really great range that filled a number of gaps for 1/76 British modellers with the Saracen, Saladin, 105 light gun [two in a pack] and the MK in gs and tactical refueller roles, as well as the 1t Land Rover gs.
needless to say the prices rocketed, and within a couple of years they disappeared from sale.
also, if you now look on the Airfix site, the number of kits seems to have reduced by a large percentage, prices have risen hugely, and so presumably sales are falling.
I do hope that Oxford Diecast doesn't follow the same route.
A good point. Takeovers do often lead to price increases, or the scrapping of a range of products as they might eclipse your own products sales (the brewing industry is famous for this, albeit a different industry)
When I see Airfix kits and the like I am somewhat taken aback at the price of them these days. Maybe it's a smaller market compared to 55 years back when virtually all of the kids in our class and "gang" were making them? Maybe it's solely down to raw ingrediants and production costs?
With regard to Oxford diecast I suppose it can go one of two ways...increased ranges or reduced. That said with Bachmann purchasing EFE then hornby may want to go head to head in what I feel is a pretty lucrative market.
Quote from: trkilliman on November 28, 2017, 10:48:46 AM
With regard to Oxford diecast I suppose it can go one of two ways...increased ranges or reduced. That said with Bachmann purchasing EFE then hornby may want to go head to head in what I feel is a pretty lucrative market.
Bachmann bought EFE out of receivership and have played very cool with a small range of re-liveried items over the ensuing 12 months. Corgi's diecast releases have also reduced dramatically with very few if any new bus castings since the London New Routemaster. Both have suffered at the hands of Oxford Diecast with substantial annual investment in new tooling across 4 different scales, and about 350 new releases/colours per year and 40+ newly tooled items! At its peak EFE was releasing 6 to 8 new items per month with half a dozen newly tooled items each year, so less than a quarter of what Oxford does every year now. Just prior to receivership EFE was only issuing items from stock which were changed from the original release by revising destinations, adverts and registration/fleet numbers, and then offered at a premium price. I am sure that the input by Oxford management to the Hornby/Corgi/Airfix/Scalextric ranges can improve there fortunes, but there will be some product ranges dropped and Hornby is still a long way from being a self-sustaining business. I look forward to seeing how it unfolds over the next 3 years before the crunch decision has to be taken about the merger or not of Oxford and Hornby.
Ah'....I was unaware that EFE had gone under. Thank you for pointing this out.
I noticed that toy fairs were awash with them so maybe they had saturated the market.
Three new shapes form the deliveries due next week:-
NFDE001 Ford 400E van - British Railways
NSEA001 Burlingham Seagull coach - Wallace Arnold
NXF001 Jaguar XF - Carnelian Red
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?constraint=1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?constraint=1-148)