Has anyone seen the new N Gauge magasine launched at Warley this weekend?
It can be found on this website:
http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/ (http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/)
Hi all,
I'm keen to hear thoughts on this. I like the ngs special price shame about the £4 postage to my place!
Thanks bart
Looks interesting, especially as it is devoted to our small scale but... I reckon £4.95 is a bit steep when compared to £3.95 for Railway Modeller :hmmm:
anyone got one? is it any good?
tim
Quote from: newportnobby on November 24, 2013, 11:28:57 AM
Looks interesting, especially as it is devoted to our small scale but... I reckon £4.95 is a bit steep when compared to £3.95 for Railway Modeller :hmmm:
£3.70 to us NGS members! :bounce:
Quote from: newportnobby on November 24, 2013, 11:28:57 AM
Looks interesting, especially as it is devoted to our small scale but... I reckon £4.95 is a bit steep when compared to £3.95 for Railway Modeller :hmmm:
Depends on how many actual pages of articles there are for the price, RM is half adverts remember ;)
EDIT: Just ordered mine anyway :thumbsup:
Paul
Very interesting :hmmm:...........
Have ordered one, let's hope it's a success and attracts more people to the hobby.
One thing I've noticed on the website is,
N GAUGE NOW is an A4 full-colour one-off magazine
Does it means it's a one off edition I wonder?
Thanks for all the positive comments.
Check out the website you will find N Gauge Now is £4.95 post free or £3.70 to N Gauge SOC members with their membership number until December 31st 2013.
At the moment we are calling it a one off "annual" but we do hope to make it a regular, perhaps quarterly, publication in the new year depending on reaction from all you lovely "N Gaugers" out there!
PS We have already received lots of positive feedback from our launch at the Warley NEC Show and welcome all your comments to help us take this project forward into 2014.
??? Never saw it there, at all ... no adverts, nothing ...
Quote from: NGaugeNow on November 24, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Thanks for all the positive comments.
Check out the website you will find N Gauge Now is £4.95 post free or £3.70 to N Gauge SOC members with their membership number until December 31st 2013.
At the moment we are calling it a one off "annual" but we do hope to make it a regular, perhaps quarterly, publication in the new year depending on reaction from all you lovely "N Gaugers" out there!
PS We have already received lots of positive feedback from our launch at the Warley NEC Show and welcome all your comments to help us take this project forward into 2014.
Just ordered mine and I look forward to more issues!
Regards, Peter.
Is it any good? - yes.
A good mixture of articles, covering a wide range of subjects including the history of the scale. Quite different to what is found in the normal magazines. I think it's what we've been lacking. Ideally it would become a quarterly publication, but I guess that depends on whether the economics work out.
A few very minor criticisms: the authors need to resist the urge to keep pressing the exclamation mark key! The cover graphics are curiously reminiscent of the 1970s. Some of the photographs are reproduced poorly, often with a colour cast. I'm sure these are just teething problems that can be overcome.
Set against that, clearly a lot of work has gone into the articles, and with 50 pages of content (excluding adverts) it's well worth the cover price.
With Grahame Hedges' British 1:148 N Gauge Modelling book with us as well, it's quite a good moment in N publishing.
No connection with either publishers.
just ordered mine :)
Definitely worth a try, and if it is any good then we may well have another N Gauge dedicated publication besides the N GS (which is brilliant but I would welcome another).
Ordered mine. :claphappy:
Quote from: NGaugeNow on November 24, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Thanks for all the positive comments.
Check out the website you will find N Gauge Now is £4.95 post free or £3.70 to N Gauge SOC members with their membership number until December 31st 2013.
At the moment we are calling it a one off "annual" but we do hope to make it a regular, perhaps quarterly, publication in the new year depending on reaction from all you lovely "N Gaugers" out there!
PS We have already received lots of positive feedback from our launch at the Warley NEC Show and welcome all your comments to help us take this project forward into 2014.
I wish you success with this venture :thumbsup:
Now being a bit nosey as im sure others are, could you let us know if you are an individual or a company and what is the driving force behind creation of this magazine? :whisper: :thumbsup:
Good question Owl :thumbsup:
On another note,has anyone seen or heard about any new issues of N'Spirations magazines due for publication?
Things seem to have gone a bit quiet in that regard.
Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Saw it at Warley on the end of a row of stands. Looked like the sort of thing that has cropped up in Photo mags and Cycle mags every now and again but vanish without a trace. Left it where it was. Sorry.
Quote from: Pete Mc on November 25, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
On another note,has anyone seen or heard about any new issues of N'Spirations magazines due for publication?
Things seem to have gone a bit quiet in that regard
Why not just send 'H' a PM and ask direct? ;)
Paul
Like Bart, I live at the Antipodes, and am very interested in this. However, at this point, I would like to hear more reviews, and obviously postage costs to this neck of the woods.
However, a new publication promoting the hobby is always welcome.
George
It is being done by Howard Foy, who did the book an Introduction to N Gauge Modelling fame.
So it is a totally private venture, which needs all our support.
I saw the magazine was for sale on about 4-5 stands including the N Gauge Society Stand, N-Tastics, and D+C Kits that I can remember.
I bought mine, via NGF & PayPal, direct from Howard. It came the day before the launch at Warley. Quality is excellent - reminded me of Model Railway Journal - but in colour and considerably larger. Compared to things Like RM and BRM - EVERYTHING in the mag/annual is N gauge so there's none of that 'not interested - straight in the bin' 70% waste paper involved.
A really good job done here guys - do support it. I'm looking forward to issue 2 :thumbsup:
Ken
Waiting for mine as I type this
How do you get the NGS discount? - I inserted my NGS number next to my surname but no discount appeared!
I've e-mailed them but as yet no response!!
Has anyone managed to get the discount with their NGS number and ordering over the WWW?
When I ordered mine there was a choice of the 2 prices so I ordered the £3.70 version and just put my NGS number after my name when I filled in my personal details
Thanks newportnobby - "none so blind as those who cannot see" :-[ - that's my first stupid question to the forum!!
I have now successfully ordered my discounted copy :thumbsup:
Thanks again!
Quote from: KTM on November 25, 2013, 12:52:45 PM
I bought mine, via NGF & PayPal, direct from Howard. It came the day before the launch at Warley. Quality is excellent - reminded me of Model Railway Journal - but in colour and considerably larger. Compared to things Like RM and BRM - EVERYTHING in the mag/annual is N gauge so there's none of that 'not interested - straight in the bin' 70% waste paper involved.A really good job done here guys - do support it. I'm looking forward to issue 2 :thumbsup:Ken
Seconded!!
From what I'm hearing here, it seems to be an excellent product, and very gently marketed. There is yet a case for humility in advertising. Can't wait to get a gander!
Bealman
Quote from: Bealman on November 26, 2013, 10:39:25 AM
Can't wait to get a gander!
Bealman
Prefer a goose, George ;) :angel:
I ordered mine a couple of days ago but, having looked at the ''Publications' page on their web site, I found that they have also published several other books specifically for N Gauge plus 2 Spotters and Collectors Guides. I've ordered both of the other N Gauge books well and I'll let you know what they are like when I've had chance to have a good look at them all. http://ngaugemodelling.co.uk/publications.html (http://ngaugemodelling.co.uk/publications.html)
Many thanks again for all the supportive comments. We'd just like to take this opportunity to clear up a few points from recent postings.
To Bart of NSW: Sorry about the AIRMAIL postage charge to Australia but if we absorbed this cost we would be giving you the magazine for free!
To newport nobby: £4.95 is the cover price because this (first issue) was done as a one-off to test the market. We do want to make N GAUGE NOW a regular publication with all YOUR support and if we do that we will price the next one at around the cost of the monthly magazines.
To Owl: Editor Howard Foy is a professional (national newspaper) production journalist who is now semi-retired and N GAUGE NOW is produced to fully professional standards by Engee Publishing which is Howard's (part-time) publishing business - he is a life-long N Gauger and long-time NGS member. Ideally he would like to give up work and spend all his time on N GAUGE NOW and other publishing interests but he is realistic that may be just a pipedream. However, we are determined to make the magazine a success (so long as enouigh people out there want it!)
To Pete Mc: N'Spirations Editor Grahame Hedges posts on this forum and can speak for himself but we understand that there will be no more N'Spirations for the time being although he has got a new N Gauge book out. Grahame did a great job on N'Spirations and as a respected N Gauge modeller and writer he has an open invitation from N GAUGE NOW to contribute to any future issues we put out!
To Parkend: We've no idea what your reference to photo mags and cycle mags means but we (hopefully) will not vanish without trace. Though we might if every N gauge modeller took your attitude and saw it but "left it where it was".
To PGM2008 (and others):
Sorry about any confusion on the website about the NGS discount. I should have arranged a discount code but this was one of the things that got overlooked in the rush to get N GAUGE NOW ready for Warley. NGS members should just input your mem no in brackets immediately after your name for verification purposes.
That's all for now, but keep those comments coming in - we need the feedback!!
HOWARD FOY and ROBIN GRUBBA
Not sure why you've directed part of your post above at me as I haven't questioned anything :hmmm:
Could you please edit your post to direct the reply about Howard Foy to the person who DID? ;)
Paul
Quote from: NGaugeNow on November 26, 2013, 12:17:45 PM
To newport nobby: £4.95 is the cover price because this (first issue) was done as a one-off to test the market. We do want to make N GAUGE NOW a regular publication with all YOUR support and if we do that we will price the next one at around the cost of the monthly magazines.
Sorry - my fault. I hadn't seen the lower price for NGS members so ordered one a couple of days ago (shoulda gone to Specsavers :goggleeyes:)
Other suppliers of spectacles are available :D
To Sprintex
Oops! Sorry about that - I've re-edited our reply which should have gone to Owl. Looks like we need Specsavers too!
N GAUGE NOW
Funnily enough, I actually went to Specsavers last week. :goggleeyes:
Time to order a copy of the mag and test the new waters...
Quote from: NGaugeNow on November 26, 2013, 12:17:45 PM
To Pete Mc: N'Spirations Editor Grahame Hedges posts on this forum and can speak for himself but we understand that there will be no more N'Spirations for the time being although he has got a new N Gauge book out. Grahame did a great job on N'Spirations and as a respected N Gauge modeller and writer
Yep, I'm still here, and just to confirm
N'spirations is not dead or finished. Just that I've recently spent a lot of time out of the country and have been working on my book project (now available). I prefer to work on one project at a time and to see each cover costs before launching another and committing more funds. I do have ideas and articles ready for a new edition of
N'spirations but at this time can't give an indication of an expected publication date.
HTH.
H.
Glad to hear that N'spirations will be N'stock again one day.
received mine today and i was rather disappointed with it :uneasy:poor quality pics accompanied by poor quality articles.hopefully it will improve if more issues are made.
good to hear n spirations is still publishing and i just ordered your new book h ;)
Id agree about some of the photos not being up to scratch and i also think the article titles needed to be bigger as at one point id gone completely into a new article without noticing, it was only after having read a few lines did i realise something was up. Having said that i thought it was a good start and with a few minor tweeks it could turn into a good little mag.
Richard
I have to disagree with the "poor quality articles" comment. I found the articles very interesting and well written seemingly with no bias, and the history of Dapol feature was particularly informative :) Bearing in mind this issue was a 'cross section of articles on as many different aspects of the hobby' as possible (as stated in the editorial) it provides a good overview of N gauge at present. Maybe if/when there are future issues some of these topics and other more specialised ones can be covered in greater detail, but for now it does exactly what it set out to do - provide an entertaining read on lots of things N gauge :thumbsup:
Some of the pictures are a little fuzzy yes, especially layout ones that look like they were taken at exhibitions and have probably been blown up and lost some quality, and we all know what it's like trying to take decent pictures at a crowded show? But then is that because we're so used to the professional photoshoot pics that have taken hours to set up like we get in the monthly mags? Better to see a selection of layouts in pictures than not see them at all ;)
Paul
Hi
I have had my copy for a couple of days and found it good seeing as it is the first one,although some of the photo's were a bit iffy I found the magazine very informative.Mind you I have also seen iffy photo's in some of the main model railway magazines.
I would like to see this to come out quarterly to start with and see how it progresses we really could do with a dedicated N gauge magazine.
Mike
how long do we expect for delivery by the way? just i ordered mine last sunday and still waiting...
not complaining just curious ;)
Quote from: Michael Hendle on December 01, 2013, 04:34:33 PM
we really could do with a dedicated N gauge magazine.
We've already got a few dedicated mags/newsletters with the
NGS Journal (every two months), the NGS
Worldwide Globe (bi-monthly for overseas modelling) and
N'spirations (3 to 4 issues a year for British outline). Plus with
N Gauge Now we could be considered to be quite spoilt. :)
H.
Quote from: H on December 01, 2013, 08:35:14 PM
Quote from: Michael Hendle on December 01, 2013, 04:34:33 PM
we really could do with a dedicated N gauge magazine.
We've already got a few dedicated mags/newsletters with the NGS Journal (every two months), the NGS Worldwide Globe (bi-monthly for overseas modelling) and N'spirations (3 to 4 issues a year for British outline). Plus with N Gauge Now we could be considered to be quite spoilt. :)
H.
is it actually possible to order each issure thats been released so far?
im trying to make a little library up for our n gauge club with all the issues in and make another one with N gauge now in it.
thanks
Many thanks for all the continued comments on N GAUGE NOW.
I accept all the criticisms regarding some of the photos - we will strive to do much better on the photo content in any future issue(s).
Unfortunately what looks perfectly acceptable photo-wise on a computer screen (and on a PDF) doesn't always translate with the same clarity when reproduced on paper. This is not a criticism of our printers by the way - they did a wonderful job in the timescale available - just a comment on my relative inexperience in dealing with the photo side of publishing.
As for the written content, judging by the replies to date we got this about right for a one-off issue. As a "mission statement", our intent was for N GAUGE NOW to be as useful and informative to the novice as to experienceD modellers and the intention was to cover as many different aspects of N Gauge modelling as possible.
That remains our intention for any future issues - and incidentally we are happy to receive submissions from any budding authors out there who want to produce articles on any N Gauge subjects. Just drop me an email at ngaugenow@yahoo.co.uk.
PS. On a more mundane note for any overseas N Gaugers, we have had to revise the postage rates for N GAUGE NOW upwards to £4 for Europe and £6 for the rest of the world. Our comments to Bart of NSW about giving the magazine away for less than a £4 postage charge were more prescient than expected - it actually costs £7.55 to send a copy to Oz!
HOWARD FOY (Editor, N GAUGE NOW)
Quote from: NGaugeNow on December 04, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
Many thanks for all the continued comments on N GAUGE NOW.
I accept all the criticisms regarding some of the photos - we will strive to do much better on the photo content in any future issue(s).
Unfortunately what looks perfectly acceptable photo-wise on a computer screen (and on a PDF) doesn't always translate with the same clarity when reproduced on paper. This is not a criticism of our printers by the way - they did a wonderful job in the timescale available - just a comment on my relative inexperience in dealing with the photo side of publishing.
As for the written content, judging by the replies to date we got this about right for a one-off issue. As a "mission statement", our intent was for N GAUGE NOW to be as useful and informative to the novice as to experienceD modellers and the intention was to cover as many different aspects of N Gauge modelling as possible.
That remains our intention for any future issues - and incidentally we are happy to receive submissions from any budding authors out there who want to produce articles on any N Gauge subjects. Just drop me an email at ngaugenow@yahoo.co.uk.
PS. On a more mundane note for any overseas N Gaugers, we have had to revise the postage rates for N GAUGE NOW upwards to £4 for Europe and £6 for the rest of the world. Our comments to Bart of NSW about giving the magazine away for less than a £4 postage charge were more prescient than expected - it actually costs £7.55 to send a copy to Oz!
HOWARD FOY (Editor, N GAUGE NOW)
Hi howard
Iv still not recieved my copy yet and ordered it over a week ago?
Any news?
Paul
I received an email on Saturday informing me my copy had been dispatched. So far it has not arrived but neither have two items posted first class on Monday, so I think the Royal Mail must be feeling the Christmas pressure and are behind on their deliveries :veryangry:
cheers John.
Well a parcel i ordered off rails on saturday arrived yesterday, iv not even had an email about my book just confirmation i bought it
Hi,
I work for Royal Mail and the only thing we are struggling with is the volume of packets. All letters are running fine. That's in the Birmingham area.
Steve.
It is two small packages I am waiting for, but there is no great panic for them as one is some n gauge figures and the other a wheel puller ;)
cheers John.
Howard
I'm still far from convinced that we either need another dedicated N gauge mag, or that there is sufficient material for it! But that is your decision to make and fair play to you for taking the risk.
On the postage thing, particularly for overseas it is a fine balance between number of pages and paper weight and the tipping point for Royal Mail is 250g (rate jumps from £4.70 to £7.55 for Australia!).
On the images thing, make sure that you get high quality images (preferably straight out of the camera unless the photographer knows what they are doing!) with a decent resolution ie you want something capable of producing >= 300dpi print resolution. Even printing out test proofs on your home printer should give you an idea of whether the image will be sharp enough or not.
Hope that helps
Mike
The overseas postage issue seems to be a bit of a lottery. I regularly post books aboard, the same essential size and weight, but the cost seems to depend on which Post Office branch you use, perhaps which day of the week it is, who's working behind the counter, and perhaps even whether the sky is blue. I've had costs ranging from £5.50 to £7.20 and I haven't yet figured out why. All thing being equal, the PO will charge you what they like - that seems to be the maxim here.
I should also mention the delivery time for my copy of N Gauge Now. I placed the order on 26 November (eight days ago), and received a dispatch confirmation on 30 November (four days ago), but there's still no sign of it. Now I realise that four days isn't that long in the scheme of things, but N'spirations arrives at a UK address within 48 hours of being ordered (72 if you order on a Saturday), which is an absolutely great service. I realise that N Gauge Now is a one-off publication for the moment, or at least a brand new start-up publication, and perhaps needs a bit of fine-tuning and experience on the distribution front, but it's something to bear in mind for the next edition, chaps. ;)
Quote from: Pete33 on December 04, 2013, 03:25:08 PM
The overseas postage issue seems to be a bit of a lottery. I regularly post books aboard, the same essential size and weight, but the cost seems to depend on which Post Office branch you use, perhaps which day of the week it is, who's working behind the counter, and perhaps even whether the sky is blue. I've had costs ranging from £5.50 to £7.20 and I haven't yet figured out why. All thing being equal, the PO will charge you what they like - that seems to be the maxim here.
I should also mention the delivery time for my copy of N Gauge Now. I placed the order on 26 November (eight days ago), and received a dispatch confirmation on 30 November (four days ago), but there's still no sign of it. Now I realise that four days isn't that long in the scheme of things, but N'spirations arrives at a UK address within 48 hours of being ordered (72 if you order on a Saturday), which is an absolutely great service. I realise that N Gauge Now is a one-off publication for the moment, or at least a brand new start-up publication, and perhaps needs a bit of fine-tuning and experience on the distribution front, but it's something to bear in mind for the next edition, chaps. ;)
like i said though i ordered mine over a week ago and still not had a dispatch email yet...
Quote from: portland-docks on December 04, 2013, 03:27:16 PM
like i said though i ordered mine over a week ago and still not had a dispatch email yet...
Okay, you win the worse case scenario award. I was beaten by a better man. Or at least a less lucky one.
Hi Howard,
Although I echo some of the statements made above regarding the photos/paper I appreciate the cost/repro factors involved.
I found it a great read but wasn't entirely sure what section of the N gauge modelling community the first issue was aimed at.
Personally I wish you all success (in the hope we get more issues) and wonder whether there are particular articles you would be seeking for follow up editions? Feel free to let this forum know in advance if possible, and we'll do our best to help :thumbsup:
I'll add a couple of tips regarding ways to improve the photo quality.
High resolution is required (at least 300 DPI for printing) otherwise they'll end up blocky looking (as some were). Also many other pics were out of focus/suffering camera shake, lacking in DoF and/or suffering a colour cast (due to incorrect white balance setting and taking pics under exhibition hall lighting). It's best to use a tripod and timer release (to stop camera shake), a small aperture/high f stop number (to increase DoF) and light the subject yourself (to get correct colour balance).
Plus most 'layout' shots were taken from a high level. Add some variety by getting down low and filling the frame with the subject.
HTH. Good luck.
H.
Hello again - and just a quick note on distribution. We have had a big influx of orders via the website and I am doing my best to get them all out as soon as possible.
Because of being away for the weekend at Warley and again at last weekend's Wakefield MRS show with our club layout, there hasn't been as much time as I would have liked to deal with all these orders but they are being processed in the order received and hopefully within seven days of receipt. (I should perhaps also mention that I've also been chasing around after my 86-year-old mum - who lives 30 miles away - who fell and broke her hip the weekend before Warley and only came out of hospital - with a new hip - on Monday).
If you get an email message that the mag (or other item) has been set for dispatch, that means it will be in the post within 48 hours. Such is the volume of mail that I'm sending everything out by second-class post and the Royal Mail says this can take two or three days from posting to reach the intended destination (or sometimes even longer).
HOWARD FOY (Editor, N GAUGE NOW)
Thanks for the response, Howard. It certainly helps that you are quick to provide an explanation, so we won't hold it against you. ;) It's probably a bit of a learning experience anyway, and the next issue's distribution will be much smoother. Were you expecting quite so many orders all at once?
Quote from: Pete Mc on November 25, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
Good question Owl :thumbsup:
On another note,has anyone seen or heard about any new issues of N'Spirations magazines due for publication?
Things seem to have gone a bit quiet in that regard.
Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Rest In Peace Buddy :angel:,
We are all gonna miss you so much :'(
that would be right!
mention the postage and it goes up more :doh:
that will teach me, should of ordered it first up, it now makes it A$18, oh well
maybe it could be made into a digital copy for overseas customers
bart
How about a soft copy and save on postage? :)
Got it! It fell through the letterbox with a heavy flop around lunchtime. First impressions are of a nice, tidy, well-presented layout, with crisp white pages, and framed photos scattered generously and descriptively on all pages. The font size and column width are perfect for such a text-heavy publication. The problems with photos have already been mentioned, but those that are okay (the majority) are absolutely excellent.
I noticed that this seems to be an annual project rather than a monthly or bi-monthly effort. That would be a shame as I'm certain that you'll find enough material for at least four issues a year, based on what you've done with the first one.
Now I need to get on and start reading. ;)
Gotta get a look at this.
Hey all,
Just to say I got my copy of this magazine today in the post and initial impressions suggest I am going to loose a good few hours! Also going to have a late night or two as I say "one more page"...
Skyline2uk
Just having a clear out, packing up for flat being rewired and other renovation/demolition and found my copy of N Gauge Now. Was there ever a second edition does anyone know?
C. :)
I believe they are starting a quarterly mag early next year :thumbsup:
JUST to update you on N GAUGE NOW. Thanks for all the previous kind words on our PREMIER ISSUE published last November as a 2014 "annual".
We are now taking the plunge and launching N GAUGE NOW as a quarterly magazine with Issue 1 due out in the next few weeks (as it should be at the printers before the end of the month).
Our original plan for mid-October publication turned out to be optimistic because ENGEE PUBLISHING is still only a part-time venture at present and the Editor/Publisher (me) has other non-modelling publishing projects on the go and I am still also working two or three days a week at present on my former full-time job (as a national newspaper sub-editor).
I'll also post an update on the forum when I get the time!
Thanks for the update, looking forward to the next mag :thumbsup:
Paul
Definitely looking forward to this. The first issue was well-written and very interesting. With my professional proofreader's hat on, I could find much less that needed correcting than I can in some other magazines. That's always a good sign that care and attention have been taken, so it bodes well for the future of N Gauge Now.
I have ordered the magazine and the 'Annual'. The price is not too expensive, but the postage to France, 4£ for each book, so 8£ for this command, seems a bit excessive...
Will the quarterly mag be available through retailers please - i.e. stationers/supermarkets etc?
Has anybody seen a copy of the new NgaugeNow Magazine?
Thanks
Hi,
Have received a copy of the new magazine, I was informed that it would be dispatched on the 17th November, no sign yet and they are not replying to emails or phone calls.
Very disappointing
Quote from: Amber9999 on December 03, 2014, 10:14:48 AM
Has anybody seen a copy of the new NgaugeNow Magazine?
Thanks
The original issue came out many moons ago, and the new quarterly NgaugeNow is due out sometime in Jan 2015. I'm looking forward to it.
Sorry - I'm not quite with you there as I'm a bit thick (with manflu) :-[
You say you have received the new magazine but there is no sign of it :confused1:
Is the one you received the issue that came out last November?
Thanks
Hi,
I'm sorry if I confused you. The new magazine is a quarterly issue I ordered the 1st issue which according to the 1st page on there website would be out on November then latter issues to follow.
What concerns me no reply e-mails ore phone calls
Hope your better soon
I received my copy this morning :D
cheers John.
Mine arrived this morning a great read
Morning all!
I would be reading my issue on my journey to London this morning but I received a call from Rails yesterday telling me it had arrived there! The original issue was delivered there last year as that is where I lived, when checking out for this issue I used my current Shrewsbury address. Not impressed!!
Ollie
:NGaugersRule:
Thank you scotsof
I live in hope of receiving soon
Mine dropped through the letter box yesterday and had a quick scan. Looks pretty good, with a nice article on the Pendolino project plus lots of nice pictures. Didn't get chance for a proper read yesterday, but first impressions look good.
Hi
Arrived in post today, good magazine, but it took 21 days to arrive.
:)
Hmm... My order got to the PayPal stage which said 'sorry your last action could not be completed'. Now I have to wait for 30 minutes before checking my account... it also said.
:hellosign:
I placed a order yesterday afternoon for the next four editions and it went through ok, also hade a reply email confirming the order. Now I wait until February to see if it arrives,
There website communication needs a lot to be desired
:)
My copy arrived on Wednesday. Looks good. I have successfully ordered the 4 2015 editions. Give it a try and see if it is worth continuing with.
Arrived in France yesterday. A lot of reading this week end !
Excellent magazine and about nothing but n gauge. Great articles. No need to buy anything else....? :bounce:
Very happy with my copy of issue 1 2014 which arrived yesterday.......Now I just need time to read it toughly before Issue 1 2015 arrives
Quote from: jonclox on February 22, 2015, 04:20:15 PM
Very happy with my copy of issue 1 2014 which arrived yesterday.......Now I just need time to read it toughly before Issue 1 2015 arrives
Don't be too stern with it, Jon :worried:
Has anyone out there had the first issue of 2015 yet? , I thought it was supposed to be published by now.
Quote from: Ditape on March 16, 2015, 02:05:01 PM
Has anyone out there had the first issue of 2015 yet? , I thought it was supposed to be published by now.
Not arrived here in Cornwall yet.
The wilds of Lancashire are still barren of this edition ::)
I placed my order for a subscription last week. Had an email over the weekend from the publisher saying that Issue 2 would be dispatched within 7 to 10 days.
Quote from: DEREK145 on March 16, 2015, 06:22:54 PM
I placed my order for a subscription last week. Had an email over the weekend from the publisher saying that Issue 2 would be dispatched within 7 to 10 days.
That means the publishing date has now gone from the original end of Feb to the end of March will we ever see the magazine?
I've not ordered the magazine but I though the middle of March has been talked about a lot, the original advice date having slipped some while ago. :)
My issue number 2 just turned up :thumbsup:
Quote from: Trainfish on March 25, 2015, 02:59:05 PM
My issue number 2 just turned up :thumbsup:
Ditto :claphappy:
Similarly, Issue 2 arrived here today.
Looks good but only had a quick scan through so far.
Yep mine arrived lunchtime today Grandchildren allowing I will settle down to enjoy it tomorrow
There is an apology for the lateness of the 2nd edition from Howard Foy.
Next editions:
#3 - June 8th
#4 -= Sept. 2nd
#5 - Nov. 23rd
(All approx. dates)
If the cover price is £3.95 and postage is free (for UK), how is it that a four issue subscription is £16 and not £15.80? :confused2:
profit ? ;)
It said postage is free, didn't say the envelope it comes in was though :D
Paul
I seem to recall the postage mark on the envelope stated the cost of postage was £0.87 :hmmm:
I received a letter, yes a letter!!!!, from Engee Publications this morning, apologising for the fact that the Summer edition of the Magazine will be late. It was due to be published on the 8th June, but won't now be done until the end of July. Apparently this is due to an office move which seemed to have been more fraught than it should have been.......
If you received the letter, and I imagine all those who've subscribed will have done, then we will be compensated for the late arrival by being given a free copy of the 2015-2016 N Gauge Loco Directory when that is published, but by Engee's recent experiences expect that around 2020 ;) ;) ;)
Regards
Neal.
Got my letter today as well, Neal
Snap. My letter arrived with today's post. All perfectly reasonable and acceptable, and it's nice to have the letter to explain everything and apologise for the delay.
I'm sorry to see the schedule slipping.
I have the first issue and some other publications by Mr. Foy, but I unfortunately had to cancel my N Gauge Now magazine subscription. For reasons neither he nor I can explain, more than one item he has mailed to me here in California has gotten lost or damaged in the post. Once I received a completely battered and opened envelope (amazingly the pamphlets I'd ordered were still inside), another time I received a completely torn apart and empty envelope with a note from the US Post saying "Sorry for the damage...and no we won't fix it for you." (Howard told me he actually went and bought more durable envelopes for overseas posting after that incident.) And then my March issue never arrived (not even now) even though Howard kindly did confirm it had been posted.
Anyhow, the issue I did get was very nice and it was a shame I had to cancel. But as I said to Howard when I emailed him to do so, there was little point in me paying for something that couldn't be successfully delivered to me. He kindly refunded the balance of my subscription cost promptly.
Matt
If only Bachmann and Dapol sent letters of apology for late arrival of product eh? ;)
Having been through two house moves in 18 months I wholly sympathise with them and completely understand the delay, just adds another month or so of anticipation of a good read :thumbsup:
Paul
Quote from: oreamnos on June 12, 2015, 04:56:35 PM
For reasons neither he nor I can explain, more than one item he has mailed to me here in California...
I've just realised that you are 'down the road' from my family and friends in the USA. :thumbsup: They live around the Thousand Oaks area and Route 101. Useless information there.....! ;D
I got the explanatory letter today from Howard. He didn't have to send it but shows what a decent guy he is battling against allsorts to produce the decent magazine he does. It is a far better magazine than the N Gauge effort, the pictures are better and the content aimed at everyone, not just rivet counters. Look forward to the next issue albeit delayed.
Full marks for a hands up its gone wrong and writing to everyone.
:thankyousign:
Yes I got the letter today. They may have suffered an overdose of optimism - the move causing more problems than planned for - but at least they have now gone public and explained the problem, also revamping their target dates. They deserve credit for doing this. Manufacturers can indeed learn from it.
Quote from: Only Me on June 12, 2015, 08:48:44 PM
It now needs a title change:-
"N Gauge Later"
ROFL
Expected that but from NN lol
Quote from: Only Me on June 12, 2015, 10:18:46 PM
I'm his stand in when theres no other total rot to comment on :)
Good to know I have back up :thumbsup:
I have not seen a copy of this magazine, so have been reading what I can about it before committing to a purchase, as the cost to the US doubles the cover price. If I look at my cost to belong to the N Gauge Society as my subscription, my cost comes out to just over $6.00 US per issue. N Gauge Now would come out to $16. per issue, buying their 3 Issue Special.
I do wonder, though, first, why anyone who does want a N Gauge only publication to read, is not a member of the N Gauge Society? Forgetting all the rest of any Society business or issues, it is still inexpensive to join, just for the Journal. Yes, in the past, it was partly filled with Society info, but that has changed, and almost all non modelling items are in a separate newsletter, and the Journal is more like a modelling magazine now. I always thought it was a good publication, but now under Grahame Hedges' editorship, it is close to excellent. For UK folks, £2.67 per issue is, to me, a 'no brainer' bargain.
Secondly, I also wonder, will N Gauge Now be a sustainable magazine, or will it wither and die in a short time? Is the UK N Gauge market large enough for both N Gauge Now and the N Gauge Society's Journal, not even allowing for N gauge material that a author might send in to commercial mags? And are there enough N Gauge authors, to sustain it, as well?
Yes, there are 2 US N scale only magazines, but I believe the market for N scale in the US is much larger than the UK's N Gauge market. And both have struggled in the past, with mailing dates and acquiring articles.
Just wondering.
Jim F
Quote from: JimF on June 27, 2015, 11:43:18 AM
I do wonder, though, first, why anyone who does want a N Gauge only publication to read, is not a member of the N Gauge Society?
There could be a number of reasons for not being a member other than getting a bi-monthly magazine as there is so much more to the NGS.
Paul
I can understand that people do not want to join any club, society, whatever. I myself am not the type to do so. One year as a member of a HO club, way back in the 70's, and a year or so in a N scale modular club, about a decade ago, are the extent of my club experiences. I definitely do not feel part of the Society, being this far from the UK, but seriously doubt I would feel any different if I did live there.
My 'wondering' came from the posts where people seemed to be jumping up and down about a N Gauge only magazine, which seems to be having some problems getting it's act together, and is more expensive, where one well established one already exists.
Jim F
It is my opinion the N Gauge Society Journal is poorly printed, the photographs amateur and the text and editorial is too anorak, a least for me.
The N Gauge Now publication on the other hand has good photographs, quality paper and modern informal appealing articles and a good read, long may it continue Howard.
I look forward to the next edition albeit delayed but I know it will be worth the wait.
I'm sure those who have subscribed to N Gauge Now have received a letter from Howard Foy detailing the reasons for lateness and they all seemed quite reasonable to this reader.
As to whether there is room in the marketplace for this publication alongside the already well established NGS Journal, Jim, I think you'll find many complaints about the 'monthlies' in that articles/reviews on N gauge can be few and far between sometimes and so a dedicated mag for N Gauge will hopefully earn its rightful place on the retailers shelves, although the outlets are very limited at present.
We N gaugers are blessed with this gauge specific forum in which we can read many reviews/how to's etc so I really don't think two 'hard copy' publications (NGS Journal and N Gauge Now) could be counted a surfeit.
Hmm, there must be 2 different Journals out there.
My copies, from the past year, are very close to being equal to the commercial mags, in print quality, photo quality, and article quality.
And other posts in this thread have commented on some of the poor quality of photos in N gauge Now.
I'm starting to feel that some folks opinion is more based on personal feelings regarding the Society itself, or perhaps officers of the Society, maybe even the editor of the Journal, instead of just objectively looking at the magazines themselves.
Jim F
All,
Just to be clear, even though I, myself, can not justify $16. per issue, I really do hope N Gauge Now magazine is a success. The more N gauge specific info that is available, the better.
My 'wondering' just came about from other comments posted earlier in this thread.
Jim F
Quote from: JimF on June 27, 2015, 02:16:00 PM
Hmm, there must be 2 different Journals out there.
My copies, from the past year, are very close to being equal to the commercial mags, in print quality, photo quality, and article quality.
Yup, I only have two issues so far, but the N Gauge Journal was a pleasant surprise - I was half expecting a stuffy rheostated membership newsletter, but received a professionally produced magazine which is a pleasure to read.
I'd also be happy to subscribe to N Gauge Now as it seems interesting, but the overseas postage costs seem a tad excessive.
You can order the next three issues for 2015 for £12.75 (includes UK postage).
Jim F
Quote from: Only Me on June 27, 2015, 04:45:26 PM
So is that almost double the price then?
If you mean, for me, yes. I'm in the US, so it would be a additional £18. postage for the 3 issue deal. £30.75 total = $48.40 US.
Jim F
The quality of presentation in the Journal has taken a nose-dive in the past year or so, whereas N Gauge Now is superbly written; bright, fresh, and showing great promise. I know which I prefer reading now.
Quote from: Pete33 on June 27, 2015, 09:47:29 PM
The quality of presentation in the Journal has taken a nose-dive in the past year or so
In what way? Is this coincident with Grahame H (formerly of this manor) taking the helm? It's probably fair to say that Grahame has a very definite slant on where the NGS Journal should go, and what it should look like. If that isn't to your taste, you might see that as the NGS Journal getting poorer. But that's surely a subjective opinion? Looking at NGS Journal back issues, there's no way it's palpably worse than it was a few years ago, and possibly better in some ways.
Cheers, NeMo
Wow, some people must be reading very different versions of the two mags being compared to me!
Richard did a great job for a long time on the NGS Journal, but the quality has improved significantly since Grahame took over. I'm really surprised that some people are criticising the quality of images as to my mind that is one of the areas that has improved.
By comparison some of the photos (or the reproduction) in N Gauge Now was pretty poor (images were out of focus or too dark). Having said which I'm not sure that the comparison is particularly valid as the aims of both organisations is very different.
Cheers, Mike
My main concern with the NGS Journal under Grahame's oversight is than it's suffering the same lapses as his own publications did previously at times - of slipping into belittling and berating rather then encouraging. Talking about "toys" or "train sets" in a dismissive tone to those who are at a different place on the "model" vs "operate" spectrum to the author really doesn't help the hobby, in my view.
I still think there's some good material in there, and it's not a constant issue with the tone, but it does seem to be a change.
First, to clarify my earlier post about the cost per issue of the 2 publications:
NGS Journal
UK £16. Divided by 6 = £2.67 each
US £26. Divided by 6 = £4.33 each
N Gauge Now
UK £12.75 for next 3 2015 issues. Divided by 3 = £4.25 each
US £30.75 " " " " " Divided by 3 = £10.25
So more closely, NG Now would be closer to 2.5 times the cost.
Tim, regarding G. Hedges, yes, I find he can be quite opinionated, but is he really different from the rest of us? Your statement "the NGS Journal under Grahame's oversight is than it's suffering the same lapses as his own publications did previously at times - of slipping into belittling and berating rather then encouraging" sounds just like the type of thing you are accusing him of.
We all do it, at some point, and in one way or the other. Myself, I have never felt this belittling tone from him, (Ok maybe when he talks about steam locos :) ), and find the overall tone of the Journal very much a positive one, encouraging folks to strive to do their best.
I do not recall reading anywhere, online, or in the Journal or Newsletter, that the NGS was inundated with volunteers to take on the role of editor. If anyone of those folks who are so quick to point out his shortcomings regarding the Journal feel they can do better, step up to the plate and take it on. I know I couldn't do it.
Personally, I feel the NGS is lucky to have gotten someone with the knowledge, skills and background that GH has, to have taken it on.
Just my 5 cents worth, not worth that much.
Jim F
Why not ask N GAuge now for a US Digital edition (PDF) ?? email is free.
Quote from: JimF on June 29, 2015, 12:20:33 PM
I do not recall reading anywhere, online, or in the Journal or Newsletter, that the NGS was inundated with volunteers to take on the role of editor. If anyone of those folks who are so quick to point out his shortcomings regarding the Journal feel they can do better, step up to the plate and take it on. I know I couldn't do it.
I think that's pretty much the answer. The sorts of people who are happy to take on this job (for no money) are going to be the sorts of people who like writing -- and through their writing, share their opinions and insights with the world.
Before Grahame H, Richard B was editor, and he's no mean writer himself. For good or for ill, that's the nature of these things.
My hope is that as time passes Grahame will learn to be as good an editor as he is a modeller. He's still a trifle quick to over-edit submissions (explaining what the N Gauge Forum was in my Avonway article was one example of an unnecessary edit). That sort of over-editing annoys the writers and adds no value. On the other hand, I think he "mission" to prompt more N gauge modellers towards personalised, handcrafted modelling techniques is a laudable one, and arguably the heart of what the NGS is meant to do.
Cheers, NeMo
Railwaaygun, a digital edition was asked about on RMWeb, the response was no plan for one, at this time.
NeMo, yes, I do agree that the add on edits are a bit much. His intentions may be good, but do need to be less of them.
Jim F
Quote from: JimF on June 29, 2015, 12:20:33 PM
Tim, regarding G. Hedges, yes, I find he can be quite opinionated, but is he really different from the rest of us? Your statement "the NGS Journal under Grahame's oversight is than it's suffering the same lapses as his own publications did previously at times - of slipping into belittling and berating rather then encouraging" sounds just like the type of thing you are accusing him of.
Strange. Tim-pelican's comments seemed to be a very fair illustration of Mr Hedges' previous form repeating itself in the Journal to the detriment of the publication. This must be one of those Marmite topics that the two sides are never going to agree upon. Some of us will have to stick to strawberry jam for the foreseeable future, again to the detriment of the Journal, sadly.
The NGS journal has far too much content from the editor - aside from the comments, a significant percentage of the articles are from the editor. Only in recent editions have they even acknowledged this - earlier ones had a conspicuous absence of author name on them (though it's obvious).
Is there a shortage of material being supplied? I thought the purpose of the editor was to do precisely that - edit, amend and arrange the articles, ensuring they are up to the standard needed; not use the role to belittle others, peddle their own (well known) biases, or recycle material they've already published (and folks have paid for already)?
The NGS Journal has definitely improved, but this is one thing that still grates.
Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Dr Al on July 02, 2015, 09:34:18 AM
peddle their own (well known) biases
To someone new to this, what are these biases of which you speak? What's GH "for" and what's he "against"?
Quote from: Dr Al on July 02, 2015, 09:34:18 AM
or recycle material they've already published (and folks have paid for already)?
Are there really articles in the NGSJ that have been in other magazines? Do we mean his own NSpirations magazine?
Cheers, NeMo
Quote from: NeMo on July 02, 2015, 09:50:40 AM
To someone new to this, what are these biases of which you speak? What's GH "for" and what's he "against"?
He is very pro southern 3rd rail electrics, diesel and electric more generally, and very anti-steam. He's watered it down a bit, but it's still apparent, especially when one knows this from the past. He's also Dapol biased and has heavily criticised Farish in the past (particularly over delivery dates) but not the same level when Dapol commit the same 'sin'.
Not what is wanted from an editor IMHO.
Quote from: NeMo on July 02, 2015, 09:50:40 AM
Are there really articles in the NGSJ that have been in other magazines? Do we mean his own NSpirations magazine?
Yes, there was recycled content from NSpirations as far as I could see. Less so now, presumably as he's exhausted what's available to recycle.
Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Dr Al on July 02, 2015, 10:00:49 AM
Yes, there was recycled content from NSpirations as far as I could see. Less so now, presumably as he's exhausted what's available to recycle.
I saw that too, along with the absence of a credit for these items. I wonder if the level of contributions has dropped off recently. Are people less confident about sending in something that would meet the editor's stringent requirements for providing modelling education?
N Gauge Now has also put out a request for articles, but my own positive response to this hasn't met with a reply. For now (or should that be 'for NOW'?) I guess their small but capable team will also be writing most of the material for that mag.
Quote from: Pete33 on July 02, 2015, 11:08:27 AM
Are people less confident about sending in something that would meet the editor's stringent requirements for providing modelling education?
I wouldn't - mainly because I do more steam modelling than diesel electric, and knowing his bias what's the point?
It irritated me also that he had a pop at Bachmann in reply to a letter about one of the new Duchesses (the double lined BR maroon version) in a recent journal, concurring with the letter that the livery was wrong - it is not wrong (as has been discussed on this and other forums) and if he'd done proper research he'd know that. Peddling inaccurate info just plain irritates me.
Cheers,
Alan
Sad that this discussion has gone from being about N Gauge Now, and my question as to whether a second N gauge only publication will be viable, to a 'let's bash Grahame Hedges, the NGS Journal, and the even the Society itself.
If so many are so anti Mr. hedges, and the Journal, perhaps a new thread should be started, for the purpose of airing your grievances? Everyone could drag out their soapboxes.
With all you detractors so sure of what is wrong with him, and the Journal, why not get at the Society and take over the editorship yourself? I 'sure' you all could do a much better job, you are already implying it.
From the 1st issue under his editorship, there has been a box on one of the first few pages of each edition, naming and giving a Thank You to each contributor. So even if the name does not happen to appear with the article itself (most do), it is still there.
For those of us unfortunate to have not acquired copies of N'Spirations, having some of the articles in the Journal is a plus.
I will repeat, I am not a big fan of Grahame Hedges, mainly because of his biases. However, I am much more less of a fan of those who belittle what others do, voluntarily and sometimes thanklessly, yet do not step forward to do it themselves.
Jim F
Quote from: JimF on July 02, 2015, 12:56:45 PM
I will repeat, I am not a big fan of Grahame Hedges, mainly because of his biases. However, I am much more less of a fan of those who belittle what others do, voluntarily and sometimes thanklessly, yet do not step forward to do it themselves.
This is a fair point, however as a *paying customer* of the NGS (of which the Journal is a big part), I think voicing one's opinion in this way is perfectly reasonable.
Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Dr Al on July 02, 2015, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: JimF on July 02, 2015, 12:56:45 PM
I will repeat, I am not a big fan of Grahame Hedges, mainly because of his biases. However, I am much more less of a fan of those who belittle what others do, voluntarily and sometimes thanklessly, yet do not step forward to do it themselves.
This is a fair point, however as a *paying customer* of the NGS (of which the Journal is a big part), I think voicing one's opinion in this way is perfectly reasonable.
Cheers,
Alan
Not when it means highjacking anothers thread :NGF:
Quote from: Dr Al on July 02, 2015, 01:01:44 PM
This is a fair point, however as a *paying customer* of the NGS (of which the Journal is a big part), I think voicing one's opinion in this way is perfectly reasonable.
Cheers,
Alan
As can any other "paying customer" (and I think of it as being a member, not a customer), you have the right to take your concerns, issues and opinions direct to the Society. To complain and bash someone on a public forum is just the old "I've got a soapbox, and I'm gonna use it" thing.
Jim F
Quote from: JimF on July 02, 2015, 12:56:45 PM
Sad that this discussion has gone from being about N Gauge Now, and my question as to whether a second N gauge only publication will be viable, to a 'let's bash Grahame Hedges, the NGS Journal, and the even the Society itself.
One problem for me is that until I buy a copy of N Gauge Now, I don't really know what it's like. It's a shame that there isn't a PDF available of at least part of an issue. They seem to have some low-res JPEGs there, but not enough for me to sample an article and decide if it appeals to me.
Perhaps what's happening here is a discussion of the two options for N gauge modellers in the UK. On the one hand there's the NGS Journal, which under a new editor has been strengthened in some ways, but not without ruffling a few feathers in the process. It's hard to talk about the NGS Journal without talking about Grahame precisely because he invests so much of himself in each issue.
But on the other hand there's N Gauge Now, which for me at least is an unknown quantity, and the website at least is far portrays a from convincing impression. So could someone who does read N Gauge Now perhaps describe its strengths, its style, how long/deep the articles are, who it's aimed at in terms of modelling skills, modelling era, etc.
Cheers, NeMo
Quote from: NeMo on July 02, 2015, 02:43:26 PM
But on the other hand there's N Gauge Now, which for me at least is an unknown quantity, and the website at least is far portrays a from convincing impression. So could someone who does read N Gauge Now perhaps describe its strengths, its style, how long/deep the articles are, who it's aimed at in terms of modelling skills, modelling era, etc.
I agree - the only point of reference I have of a pure N gauge publication is the NGS Journal with it's discussed failings.
Seeing what N gauge now is like is definitely of interest - do they have any free samples or suchlike of their publication?
Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: JimF on July 02, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
As can any other "paying customer" (and I think of it as being a member, not a customer), you have the right to take your concerns, issues and opinions direct to the Society. To complain and bash someone on a public forum is just the old "I've got a soapbox, and I'm gonna use it" thing.
If there is an NGS thread we should move this discussion over there as there's clearly some discussion to be had on it that's OT to this thread!
Cheers,
Alan
How about here? http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20868.msg314415#msg314415 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20868.msg314415#msg314415)
I have just posted the latest information on the thread about the next Journal. The editor of the journal isn't able to do it on here.
Quote from: Dr Al on July 02, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
Quote from: Pete33 on July 02, 2015, 11:08:27 AM
Are people less confident about sending in something that would meet the editor's stringent requirements for providing modelling education?
I wouldn't - mainly because I do more steam modelling than diesel electric, and knowing his bias what's the point?
Which is clearly self-fulfilling your bias! Given that Grahame regularly publishes steam modelling (and indeed has devoted whole issues [of Nspirations] to modelling steam), I think we can firmly put to bed any idea that his personal preferences would stop him publishing steam articles....
I can't help feeling that some folk want to be outraged for the sake of it.
Cheers, Mike
Quote from: red_death on July 02, 2015, 03:39:57 PM
I can't help feeling that some folk want to be outraged for the sake of it.
"Outraged" is somewhat hyperbole....I'm just expressing a valid opinion.
Anyways, this is OT and should be on the thread Tank has suggested, so on NGS I shall say no more here.
Cheers,
Alan
Is N Gauge Now still on target for the end of July? (2015) that is .
Quote from: georgehgv on July 19, 2015, 07:12:53 PM
Is N Gauge Now still on target for the end of July? (2015) that is .
Hi All, In the letter sent to subscribers the indication seems to be the second half of July, I was wondering if any subscribers have received their copy yet.
Regards, Ken.
Nothing received yet, Ken :no:
I think we can dispense with this round of 'I haven't got it'. You can be pretty certain that there will be some hearty 'I've got it!' comments when it arrives, don't you think? ;)
Are 2 replies to a question considered OTT, Pete?
Likewise, Steve.
Sigh.
Their website says the copies are being received from the printers and being mailed out 'this week' ie w/b 2nd Aug.
So in theory we should receive our copies in a few days.
Mine has arrived this morning.
A good read as always..
Received mine as well. Enjoyed it as well. :thumbsup:
Hurrah! Mine should be here with this afternoon's morning post.
Postie has just delivered. Looking forward to a quiet read.
Ken.
Yeah, Yeah Yeah!!!!!
Mine hasn't so SHUT UP :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Hopefully tomorrow.......
Regards
Neal.
P.S. I suppose I'll just have to make do with the Cricket ;) ;) ;)
What, is there a match on ? I thought the England team were just having a practice ...
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Mine arrives this morning. Along with my second new Duchess!
Mine came and so did a Dapol 66 Freightliner Unbranded and 3 DCC Concepts 8 set point decoders. Bargain for them all at ehattons, decoders cheaper by a tenner than anywhere and 66 was a steal. Happy bunny here.
Another one, saying 'arrived today'
Still waiting :(
Quote from: Ditape on August 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PM
Still waiting :(
Better blame the Postie then. Your dog not bitten him lately ? :D
Quote from: Ditape on August 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PM
Still waiting :(
Di,
Looking at the location of some of those who have received their copies, it looks like it takes a day longer for the Royal Mail to travel 50 miles down the M4 :P :P
Regards
Neal.
Quote from: Calnefoxile on August 07, 2015, 05:39:27 PM
Quote from: Ditape on August 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PM
Still waiting :(
Di,
Looking at the location of some of those who have received their copies, it looks like it takes a day longer for the Royal Mail to travel 50 miles down the M4 :P :P
Regards
Neal.
It appears the Royal Mail has by-passed you and travelled over the 'Bridge' to Gods Country. :) Ken.
Mine reached Cornwall today.
Mine arrived today - will have a good read later
Bill
Mine came today.........TWO of them!
Better send one back. :hmmm:
Mine came this morning. Peter.
:bounce:
arrived today, will have a good read later.
Mine arrived yesterday but not a lot in it for a transition era modeller.
Hey ho - I can't be lucky all of the time.
Quote from: newportnobby on August 08, 2015, 02:34:45 PM
Mine arrived yesterday but not a lot in it for a transition era modeller.
Hey ho - I can't be lucky all of the time.
I never knew you were a tranny Mick?
:sorrysign:
Quote from: georgehgv on August 08, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 08, 2015, 02:34:45 PM
Mine arrived yesterday but not a lot in it for a transition era modeller.
Hey ho - I can't be lucky all of the time.
I never knew you were a tranny Mick?
:sorrysign:
I've never been referred to as a radio before :confused1: :P
not old enough for valves, and too old for solid state, eh :P
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 08, 2015, 05:16:25 PM
not old enough for valves, and too old for solid state, eh :P
OK - I'll hold my hands up to that one :whiteflag:
Has anyone written to them and had replies? I must have sent 5 emails and not had one. :-\
No need to email I got mine. :bounce:
I have mine as well, but am trying to make contact. ;)
Quote from: Tank on August 12, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
I have mine as well, but am trying to make contact. ;)
Likewise :unimpressed:
Ditto on the email front, but remember that using the email address on their website doesn't always work (they say). Use the one in the magazine instead.
Thanks Pete, I've done both. :-\
Plus remember that they do seem to be pretty bad at responding to individual enquires. :D
Mine arrived the other day and I finally got the chance to have a peruse last night.
1st impressions, good effort. I thought the articles were very interesting and I was particularly interested in the Kings Park Layout, having been a regular operator of said layout until it's early demise. It's great to see it back on the circuit and I can't wait to get my hands on it again ;) ;)
The 47 Article is also an interesting read, my only criticism is the quality of the photographs, especially the close ups, some of them are completely out of focus, especially the comparison photo between the Minitrix and Farish model, in fact looking closely at a number of the photos, there are quite a few more that are out of focus. To me this almost ruins the rest of the article, which is actually a very informative article.
All in all, 7/10 could do better. Hopefully the next one will have better, sharper photos.
Regards
Neal.
On reflection the 'birth' of Issue 3 was somewhat difficult so I dare say some holidays have been taken before the rush to get the next issue out :hmmm:
I just heard from Howard Foy (regarding the loco directory). He said that Issue 4 of N Gauge NOW is at the printers, so it's almost time to start camping out next to the letter box.
HI, Issue no.4 has just landed on the doormat. Revised publishing dates in the apologies insert sees issue no.5 due in January 2016. Having spoken to Howard and Robin at the Wigan Show I hope that all is now well and the future is bright for the magazine.
Regards, Ken.
Mine has just dropped through the letterbox. Nice to see some pics of forum members' layouts ;D
Good write up on the Pendolino project with comments by Ben and Mike.
Very good 'in depth' look at Western region hydraulics and the various models :thumbsup:
@D1042 Western Princess (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3445)
Mine too has arrived today.
My copy arrived today' thank you Howard Foy for another great edition, I like the article on the Nelevation fiddle yard with positive comments as opposed to the negative posts made in the Forum Topic.
Has anyone received yet ir has news of N Gauge Now Issue 5.
I know we are used to getting behind schedule but it eas stated in the last edition it would be out in January and we are nearly done with this month.
Any news anyone?
Nothing arrived here yet.
Quote from: georgehgv on January 23, 2016, 07:08:25 PM
. . . as stated in the last edition it would be out in January and we are nearly done with this month.
Got another 8 days yet :D
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on January 23, 2016, 09:26:02 PM
Quote from: georgehgv on January 23, 2016, 07:08:25 PM
. . . as stated in the last edition it would be out in January and we are nearly done with this month.
Got another 8 days yet :D
Paul
Take out two weekends
Quote from: Only Me on January 23, 2016, 09:33:39 PM
They havent subbed the printing to NPN have they!? ;)
Is NN on holiday? He has been very quiet of late. :o
Quote from: georgehgv on January 23, 2016, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: Only Me on January 23, 2016, 09:33:39 PM
They havent subbed the printing to NPN have they!? ;)
Is NN on holiday? He has been very quiet of late. :o
Here you go....
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=31530.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=31530.0)
Issue 5, winter 2016 has arrived
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Looks a good read!
Spoiler. ,Mine has not arrived. :veryangry:
Nor mine :(
Quote from: port perran on February 11, 2016, 09:19:28 PM
Nor mine :(
Must be something to do with Geographical location. South of Watford!
No sign of mine either, but I hope it comes soon it will give me something to read over the weekend.
Mine arrived today in Calne.
It's ok, nothing spectacular, bit of a history lesson really. Not much else in it to be honest.
There are no 'modelling' articles in this edition.
Regards
Neal
Mine arrived in Watford today.
now to decide whether to renew my subscription.
Quote from: Portpatrick on February 12, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Mine arrived in Watford today.
now to decide whether to renew my subscription.
i would!
the next issue should carry an advert for our north east n gauge exhibition in june, and im going to start sending in some articles on sound fitting locomotives so if anyone would like them done there will be an article on a different locomotive every so often!
Quote from: Portpatrick on February 12, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Mine arrived in Watford today.
now to decide whether to renew my subscription.
Mine arrived today, I too need to consider subscription renewal, I probably will renew.
Yep! I have the dates for the next releases!
my copy arrived today as well.
:hmmm: £20 for 5 copies of that deals wholly with n gauge, and is a :censored: good read from cover to cover ?
no brainer :thumbsup:
best £20 you could spend in my view.
Got mine today and will probably renew
:bounce:
:claphappy: Mine arrived Wednesday.
Still unsure whether to renew or not.
The 'unstable' :-\ delivery dates are what concerns me most of all
£20 for 5 issues compares well against my recent renewal of my sub to Model rail (£44 for the year). In fact I am coming to a view I might not renew that next time - the proportion of articles which add to the knowledge or interest I want, after 49 years of buying magazines, is somewhat reduced, so the cost is less well spent. The articles I retain include those on interesting (to me) layouts, prototype and operation matters. Rather I might look at mags on the shelf and only buy when something grabs me. I know I might miss things sometimes.
A pure N gauge magazine does seem to offer more potential. So this one alongside my NGS membership ticks some boxes. That said, while the history of manufacturers and types of stock , eg coaches, is interesting, and there has been some prototype material to inform us, I am as yet unsure there is enough wider modelling content. But then it is down to us N gauge modellers to submit such material. I have a few weeks to decide but I might give it another 5 issues.
I'd love to subscribe but their airmail charge to Japan is more than the price of the magazine itself.
I have renewed my subscription, at that price it has got to be worth it. :thumbsup:
I've finally had a response via email from them. :claphappy:
I have paid up for the next 5 issues. As with my Model Rail sub, the next few issues will decide whether I continue to hold subscriptions come 2017 or just buy whaat looks interesting from the shelves. I am fortunate in that I can find all the main mags on varied local shops
I renewed as well. in fact now the only subscriptions I have are this one and Rail Express.
none of the others were, in my opinion, worth the money any more.
little in N, most of the mag adverts, and few layouts of interest.
hopefully if we continue to support N Gauge Now it will continue and prosper, may even eventually rise to a monthly issue.
just think, a mag full of only N every month :thumbsup:
I've subscribed for the next 5 as well. Hopefully "N Gauge Now" will progress and expand. Good luck to them, I hope they get the support they need to make the venture worthwhile.
John
I have all issues since the first one and have subscribed to the next 5 so I must be happy with it.
That, the NGS Journal and Railway Modeller make up my modelling reading.
Ok so what am I missing? I can only see a subscription for 4 issues at £19.25
I think the offer for 5 for the price of 4 finished before Easter.
How did folk know about this then? I can't find anything about it apart from on here. I've looked through issue 5 and can find an ad for issue 6 at £5.25 but nothing for more than that. Am I going blind?
Quote from: Trainfish on March 28, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
How did folk know about this then? I can't find anything about it apart from on here. I've looked through issue 5 and can find an ad for issue 6 at £5.25 but nothing for more than that. Am I going blind?
When I got my issue 5, on my previous subscription, there was an A5 size yellow insert offering the 5 for £20, with an end date. After some consideration I decided to go for it.
I was on subscription too but didn't see any yellow insert. I would definitely have gone for it and probably should have looked at this thread before now. I think an email to them could be in order. Thanks for this. Would it be too much to ask if anyone still has this insert that they could scan it to me so I know what I'm on about when I contact them?
Quote from: Trainfish on March 28, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
I was on subscription too but didn't see any yellow insert. I would definitely have gone for it and probably should have looked at this thread before now. I think an email to them could be in order. Thanks for this. Would it be too much to ask if anyone still has this insert that they could scan it to me so I know what I'm on about when I contact them?
I have found my copy and scanned - saving as a pdf document. But I cannot see how to attach the file to the messaging system, so not sure how to send it to you. If you are willing to send me your E mail address via the forum messaging, I am happy to then attach it to a return E mail. I guess only I, and presumably the moderators/ system overseers have access to my messages sent box so you should be safe!
Quote from: Only Me on March 28, 2016, 04:37:09 PM
I got all that through the post in a letter, im not even a subscriber.... The card was very useful as a shim though :)
Card? What card? Have I missed out on something else too?
Good news, N Gauge Now have agreed to let me have the original offer of 5 issues for £20, well, they did it for £19.25 actually but don't tell anyone. Thanks to those who helped with this and well done to Engee Publishing :thumbsup:
Quote from: Trainfish on April 28, 2016, 06:53:45 PM
Good news, N Gauge Now have agreed to let me have the original offer of 5 issues for £20, well, they did it for £19.25 actually but don't tell anyone. Thanks to those who helped with this and well done to Engee Publishing :thumbsup:
Great. Hope you enjoy it
Hi All, Postie has just delivered Issue No. 6, which after a quick flick through looks like another good issue.
Regards, Ken.
Ditto, Ken. Mine has arrived this lunchtime. Will look at it later.
Oh, I think I must have forgotten to pay for the next batch. :-\
Edit:- No updated my subscription.
Not yet arrived here in damp overcast Swindon :'(
Got mine today but haven't perused it yet.
No sign of mine yet. In fact no post at all today.
John
Arrived with todays post (Thursday), something to read in the quieter moments at work :)
Quote from: Ditape on May 11, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
Not yet arrived here in damp overcast Swindon :'(
Got mine in a just as damp Calne ;) ;)
Not had a chance to read it properly yet, but looks ok. Although there are a few spelling mistakes in the bits that I read. ::) ::)
Cheers
Neal.
Mine arrived today in Cornwall.
Quote from: Ditape on May 11, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
Not yet arrived here in damp overcast Swindon :'(
Mine arrived lunchtime in a very very soggy envelope but good reading when it dried out though
Graham
Issue 7 just dropped onto the mat :claphappy:
On a quick flick through it includes:-
TINGS preview
SR tender locos feature - Q1, N class, Schools
N Gauge buses
Eras explanation
Class 31 models feature
Passenger Stock part 3: "Big Four"
Layout feature: Dragonby (some excellent :camera: )
:thumbsup:
Paul
Mine has just arrived as well. Looks good.
Not sure this is the right place for this, but as anyone had a problem of getting hold of issue 7?
Assuming you're on a subscription and haven't received it yet I would contact Howard Foy at Engee Publishing.
I haven't received 6 or 7, and my emails are not being replied to.
Hi,
It seems a lot of emails to N Gauge Now / Howard Foy have been going astray so in issue 7 Howard gives a new email address which is:-
ngaugenow@gmail.com
Hope that helps
Steve
[mod]Amended e-mail address to correct spelling[/mod]
I'm having the same prob with the g mail address as well ! sent 2 mails and no response.
No reply to my email again. :thumbsdown: That's three email addresses now.
Quote from: Tank on September 07, 2016, 11:15:57 AM
No reply to my email again. :thumbsdown: That's three email addresses now.
It's not looking good!! Howard may well be at Tings this weekend I suppose?
Still got the same problem contacting N Gauge Now mag. I Have sent 3 mails to Howard Foy's g mail address with no reply.
I know people have had the same prob in the past. Has anyone managed to get a reply from Howard ?
Nope, and I keep forgetting to try the phone number (thanks Paul!).
Strange, as I've had the first 5 issues from him.....and I had an email about subscribing to future issues, which I did. Worrying! :D
I dread to think how many times 'model' is on here, and I get 5 spam a week. All about how you manage your filters. In any case, I guess I should call him. I have my paypal receipt! :thumbsup:
I managed to contact Howard Foy by the phone number mentioned previously. He tells me that his email is all messed up with Russian porn,something to do with the "word "model"
He tells me to use his email address ---- engeepublishing@gmail.com.
That's probably a disadvantage of Google's "scan your emails for hints for our customers to pick what ads to send you" system. They might not be directly reading your private emails but the effect is that it's making the spam harder to automatically differentiate from useful mail.
Issue 8 dropped through my letterbox today and what a goodie it is too. Excellent to see RevolutioN featured so well, especially the 35T Class B tanks. Maybe that will give an injection to the numbers.
Some excellent in depth features on shunters, Gresley pacifics and the last piece of their very good coach stock article, although I felt the finish was rushed. I have yet to read the articles on easi-shunt couplings and application of vinyls.
The NGF got a very small mention in an article about N gauge on t'interweb but maybe we'll get a little more in the next issue which continues the article.
There is also an explanation as to the ins and outs of their e mail address problems.
My copy crashed onto the mat today as well only, had a quick scan thru' but looks good. :thumbsup:
Mine also arrived today.
A quick scan reveals plenty of interest. Looking forward to reading it later.
Paid in May, numerous emails with the last being sent on the 14th..... Howard replied today apologising and is sending me issues 6-8! :thumbsup: He'll investigate why my order wasn't recognised.
Good to hear you got a response :thumbsup:
Paul
N Gauge Now #9 is now available
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/941-160217104237.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48713)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/941-160217104318.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48714)
An enjoyable read as always. I would like to see the picture/photo quality improve (lots are pixelated), and less internet images. I'm also still waiting to be contacted about the NGF advertising.... I completely give up on that now.
A great effort though, and interesting articles. :thumbsup:
Paper. :)
Yep. Nine has arrived today. Guess I have one more before having to decide whether to re-subscribe
Quote from: Portpatrick on February 16, 2017, 02:25:42 PM
Yep. Nine has arrived today.
One for each life? :-X
Received mine but not opened it yet.
The layout 'Heatherley' is that of my local model railway club.
Quote from: newportnobby on February 16, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: Portpatrick on February 16, 2017, 02:25:42 PM
Yep. Nine has arrived today.
One for each life? :-X
Received mine but not opened it yet.
The layout 'Heatherley' is that of my local model railway club.
Surely too many "oily sheds" and "multi coloured worms" for you on that layout er Nobby? And even then a lack of Green "oily sheds" :D
I jest of course, I am sure they allow you to run the odd "Kettle Special" :thumbsup:
P.S. Glad your hospital visit went well today.
Skyline2uk
Mine arrived today. The last before I must re-subscribe.
I'm in two minds ..........is it really that interesting ?
Hmmmmm.........I'm not at all sure. I'm thinking that if I saw it on sale in a newsagents I might pick it up, have a quick flick through then put it back without purchasing.
A bold attempt (which should be applauded) at a purely N Gauge magazine but for me , after the first 9 copies....I'm afraid I'm not really sold on it.
I suppose to sum up mildly interesting but far from riveting.
Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 16, 2017, 05:42:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 16, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: Portpatrick on February 16, 2017, 02:25:42 PM
Yep. Nine has arrived today.
One for each life? :-X
Received mine but not opened it yet.
The layout 'Heatherley' is that of my local model railway club.
Surely too many "oily sheds" and "multi coloured worms" for you on that layout er Nobby? And even then a lack of Green "oily sheds" :D
I jest of course, I am sure they allow you to run the odd "Kettle Special" :thumbsup:
P.S. Glad your hospital visit went well today.
Skyline2uk
Thank you!
I didn't say I was a member of said club as, having done way too much duty on committees, I prefer to plough my own furrow now. Besides, I can't afford the subscription :-[
Got mine yesterday and i think it is a great read, the trainspotters article's are great. I think for a totally N Gauge Magazine it's brilliant and i feel give them time and it will get better, remember they are new to it just like we all where at railway modelling at some point.
I think i will continue to support them and hopefully it may grow into a brilliant monthly. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Tank on February 16, 2017, 11:27:14 AM
An enjoyable read as always. I would like to see the picture/photo quality improve (lots are pixelated), and less internet images.
Have to agree the images are a mixed bag and the pixellation/jaggies are like an itch I can't scratch... very annoying and I don't really understand why they should be like that.
I am talking from experience of designing and laying out high quality theatre/event programmes, spend half my time demanding high quality images from people and not an 80kb jpeg they have to hand.
There are ads in there with the same problem and although I really enjoy the magazine and will renew my subscription it is the images that are holding it back from being an N gauge magazine on a par with the major model magazines for all scales.
That said it is a recommended read though, just hope the images will improve to the standard that could easily be achieved.
I guess its success or otherwise, including whether in time it goes monthly, depends on its content, and whether it says enough of what a good number of us want to read. Also on whether enough advertisers consider it reaches enough of the market to make paying for their adverts worthwhile. On current form I am fairly happy to pay c £16pa but would jib at £48 for monthly! To date there has been a lot of historical matter - looking at the back story behind some of the major players, the prototype history enhanced by model history of locos and more broadly, rolling stock. Interesting it certainly is, though for me personally with a lot of historical knowledge in my own areas of interest gained over 50 years in the hobby, less likely than for some of you to be adding significant new knowledge. And of course there is a limit to how many editions you can populate with such material unless you are happy to start to repeat it. But for anyone wondering whether to buy it, I would say give it a go, then make up your own mind.
However I do feel there has been a growth in number and usefulness of articles on layouts and modelling matters - vinyls, couplings, converting lorries for example. This is what will make it for me - or not. And for those of us who are members of the NGS does it duplicate or add to our own journal? And needless to say that content will only happen in sufficient quantity if we N Gauge modellers get on and write it.
Now the challenge is what can we/I do about that?
It was the pixelated images that I really didn't like. There's no excuse, it's like they've taken thumbnails from the web and stretched them. It's a shame.
I agree with PP on all he has said, but surely we must try and support a magazine that is trying to get our N Gauge to the masses and then maybe more in the gauge buying may bring prices down, i don't know, the more knowledgeable members among us might know better. Happy Modelling. :) :)
Not sure what people want really !! After the mainstream mags printing just about 95% (or more) endless 00 stuff and basic "How to" articles". OK for a novice I suppose but not much use for modellers of experience, along comes a mag dedicated to N gauge and still some N Gaugers are not happy.
Give the guys producing this venture a break. They have had initial teething production problems and are very new in real terms into the venture and I guess learning all the time.
It is a new venture and top quality production is probably not affordable for them so lets please support them and see how the project develops.
Bret.
I don't really see anyone saying that they're not happy as such. Just because it's N gauge doesn't mean that it must be faultless, although there's certainly an argument that perhaps people should overlook 'problems' and support it such that it will grow. Whilst I applaud them for catering for a niche, I didn't find the issues I had interesting enough to justify repeat purchasing. I don't buy any print media though, or read any other magazines in any other format for that matter.
I'm not expecting fantastic quality production, but I've never seen such bad images reprinted in a magazine, and there's no reason for that. If they're taking the photos then a phone would do a better job. The issues I read it looked very much like they'd just taken low-resolution images from the web to reprint, which IMO is not really good enough.
Quote from: PWayman on February 17, 2017, 11:53:38 AM
Not sure what people want really !! After the mainstream mags printing just about 95% (or more) endless 00 stuff and basic "How to" articles". OK for a novice I suppose but not much use for modellers of experience, along comes a mag dedicated to N gauge and still some N Gaugers are not happy.
Give the guys producing this venture a break. They have had initial teething production problems and are very new in real terms into the venture and I guess learning all the time.
It is a new venture and top quality production is probably not affordable for them so lets please support them and see how the project develops.
Bret.
Totally agree :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It's been going for over 2 years. I agree that levelling some criticism at it after one or two issues may be a little harsh, but they've had plenty of time to get it right.
Again I ask, should we blindly accept it because it's n gauge, and therefore must be good?
Why not? You can always change scale and gauges.
This is an N gauge forum and you don't have to participate if you are not happy with N.
Quote from: njee20 on February 18, 2017, 07:29:13 AM
It's been going for over 2 years. I agree that levelling some criticism at it after one or two issues may be a little harsh, but they've had plenty of time to get it right.
Again I ask, should we blindly accept it because it's n gauge, and therefore must be good?
Of course we shouldn't. Moans about the picture quality are perfectly justified IMO, but I do like many of the articles especially the histories of models e.g. this issues Jubs and Scots.
I guess the problem is most of us take the mag by mail order rather than be able to browse it in a shop and then decide whether to buy. We just get what we receive
As a matter of interest how well does in compare with the N Gauge society journal? Unfortunately I can't get either publication because of our postal system. :'( I'd love them to go digital.
It might be a good idea to email them about the poor picture quality and how off putting it is, maybe it will wake them up a bit.
Well I've put my money where my mouth is and ordered 3 back issues as the price is very good.
One (issue 5?) appears to have a photo of Littlewood on the front cover, which massively inspired me when I was young, so excited about that. However I'm mildly concerned that the cover image is taken from the website (here (http://www.deas.net/littlewood/images/3010.jpg)), and I believe the layout was sold on about 10 years ago. So at best they've re-used photos from the web (no surprise given the low resolution of some images) and mashed it with text from the new owners, at worst it'll be taken from Richard Deas's own website. Not sure either are great!
I think the idea is great and I'd like to continue to support it.
My main concern is the content which, to me, is largely simply regurgitating factual information which is probably available elsewhere.
My interest N Gauge wise is in seeing layouts develop (especially scenic wise) and N Gauge now is limited in its coverage( I know they generally cover one layout). Now maybe thats our fault for not submitting articles. In which case, I'm as much to blame as the next modeller.
Maybe I'll reconsider and take out another year's subscription to give them more time.
A very thoughtful comment. :thumbsup:
I was referring to Silly Moo's post, but PP's is correct too. :thumbsup:
Quote from: port perran on February 18, 2017, 09:49:07 AM
I think the idea is great and I'd like to continue to support it.
My main concern is the content which, to me, is largely simply regurgitating factual information which is probably available elsewhere.
My interest N Gauge wise is in seeing layouts develop (especially scenic wise) and N Gauge now is limited in its coverage( I know they generally cover one layout). Now maybe thats our fault for not submitting articles. In which case, I'm as much to blame as the next modeller.
Maybe I'll reconsider and take out another year's subscription to give them more time.
I agree totally PP, if we submitted some photos and articles about whatever takes our fancy then they will have more to give back to us and hopefully the quality of the photos and content will go up. Personally i like the content, they give me at least some history of the engines and tell me what to look for with the models, so i will continue to support them for has long has nessercery. :thumbsup: :NGaugersRule:
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 18, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
I agree totally PP, if we submitted some photos and articles about whatever takes our fancy then they will have more to give back to us and hopefully the quality of the photos and content will go up.
I guess the issue is how long you give them. I bought the first issue at Warley 2014, for them not to have tackled the most simple and glaring issues, I wonder how long it'll survive in something as tough as print media.
Just received my back issues, only just made it, the envelope was shredded, which is a mild concern!
The Littlewood article is unashamedly a re-hash of what's on their website, including just reprinting the (often blurry) photos from there. At least one of the captions is inaccurate, and there are several spelling errors I spotted while skimming it.
The rest of the magazine contains some mildly interesting content. There's an article on the 37,which includes a photo of a still from a YouTube video (not a screenshot, an actual photo of a computer monitor paused on YouTube). This is unforgivable for a credible magazine IMO.
Advertisers images are shocking resolution and shouldn't be printed. Rails of Sheffield's advert is highly pixelated, it's the same advert that appears in other magazines without such efforts, which suggests NGN are doing something to reduce the size of the image, which is very peculiar.
I stand by my original assessment. On the one hand I applaud them for targeting a niche, and one in which I clearly have a significant interest. On the other hand it's a little too much like a school project for my liking, whilst that may have been ok for a "first issue" it's not subsequently. I would perhaps continue to buy back issues that had specifically appealing content at £1 an issue, but there's no way I'd pay £4 a throw.
Edit: just read another issue, which contains more articles on coaches, and a feature on "Dragonby", another top n gauge layout. The article is a rehash of something printed in Model Rail a few years ago, same photos, all credited to Chris Nevard, nothing new at all. Just not sure I get the point, I imagine most people with an interest in these layouts (like me) have already read the information elsewhere. I want something new, not a history of mk1 coach livery availability and a copy and paste layout article.
Just wish some people would give support to a magazine that is a fledgling, just like a youngster they need naturing, if if they make mistakes so what, we all do, some members are starting to annoy me and no i am not going to stop posting, i will just ignore them, because IMO they are just out for an argument for which i have no time for. :veryangry:
I've asked the question twice, and I'll ask it again, how long should we excuse these things because they're a "fledgling" offering? In 10 years when they're reprinting even their own reprinted articles?
If a new brand brings a model to market with some inaccuracies, badly painted perhaps, we may forgive it. If they were still doing the same 2 years and 10 releases later...?
Like I say, I absolutely applaud them for the concept, and I want to enjoy it. it's obviously a small group doing it, every article is peppered with captions like "this is yet another Robin Grubba repaint", which suggests even they are slightly embarrassed that they only have one model maker, and if I were being really cruel I'd say he falls a long way short of the George Dents of this world.
I don't mean to be unfairly harsh, I just don't get the blind "we need to support them" thing. Why should we?
I'm unsure if your comment about people looking for an argument is aimed at me. I'm most certainly not, although I'd rather have a debate, rather than a unilateral "everything is fine", hence trying to draw you on exactly why we should blithely keep accepting it?
The issue with mine seemed to be that they were just put in a brown envelope, where they were able to move, and as such as almost broken free of the envelope. Hopefully yours have faired better and are simply delayed!
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 25, 2017, 05:10:49 AM
Just wish some people would give support to a magazine that is a fledgling, just like a youngster they need naturing...
Quote from: Herzel on February 25, 2017, 09:03:27 AM
So I'm concerned about the outcome. At the price the mags have got to be worth the read - if they turn up.
These two quotes nicely sum up the problem for start-ups of any kind. @Steamie+ (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5847), you're right, it will take a while for a new magazine to iron out any production issues. But @Herzel (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5898) is also right to expect even a new magazine to deliver a certain level of quality and professionalism.
I think Howard Foy is totally missing a trick in not putting at least part of a back-copy online for people to try out first. As it is, it's impossible to judge the quality or content from the website, and since online reviews tend to highlight the flaws over the strengths, his "shop window" is pretty much limited to threads like this one. I don't think that's helping him.
Personally, I don't think it's excusable to deliver a magazine with pixellated graphics or blurry photos. Avoiding these problems is straightforward if you know how to use InDesign or whatever DTP package they use, and if the publishers don't have the skills to use such software, they need to get somebody who does. This isn't 1984, and the market won't support something that looks like it's been thrown together in Microsoft Word!
Is there space in the market for another magazine? The magazine we get from the N Gauge Society continues to develop, and if articles about crafting skills are your thing, it's probably getting better than ever under Grahame Hedges' management.
But there are obviously modellers who don't belong to the NGS who might pay for a dedicated N-gauge magazine. But for an annual subscription of £36 that doesn't compare particularly well with the NGS annual subscription. Howard Foy has to produce something that has offers plenty of value if people are going to be tempted to sign up for a years' worth of his magazine. Otherwise the NGS costs half as much per year, for which you get six rather than four magazines, as well as access to the shop and the NGS' exclusive kits and models. That's a tough deal for N Gauge Now to beat unless the magazine is truly exceptional.
Cheers, NeMo
its a shame WH Smiff's don't have it in their racks so's we could have a quick peep :D
Yikes! £42 for 4 issues to the US. Looks cool, but that's steep.
Quote from: mr bachmann on February 25, 2017, 11:42:24 AM
its a shame WH Smiff's don't have it in their racks so's we could have a quick peep :D
After queueing for an hour! :D
Quote from: Herzel on February 25, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
Last time there I said to this brusque assistant that wanted to charge me for a bag even though it was raining without, "I was young when I came here. Look at me now!"
Not the assistant's fault, that's the law regarding bags, raining or not!
Paul
Quote from: Herzel on February 25, 2017, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on February 25, 2017, 02:43:41 PM
Quote from: Herzel on February 25, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
Last time there I said to this brusque assistant that wanted to charge me for a bag even though it was raining without, "I was young when I came here. Look at me now!"
Not the assistant's fault, that's the law regarding bags, raining or not!
Paul
It's the kind of situation that invokes mischief. I'd already paid for the mags so on asking for a bag I was told it would cost 1p. So out came my credit card... .
...
Debit cards are the worst thing to use in that instance - they're charged a flat fee. Credit cards charge a percentage. I never use cash these days, once a month to pay my barber.
My mags took about 3 days from receiving a despatch email.
Mine came within 3 days and i am glad it's in a brown envelope, only because my postman reads the covers of the others that come by post..lol.... :laugh:
Has for the magazine it's self, no one can dispute that it isn't a glossy magazine and maybe it's photo's are lacking some what, and it maybe it is repeating it's self with some stories that were published before in the past, but some of us who have only just got into this hobby don't want to be trawling through back issues of other mags in the hope we will see an interesting article.
I have and i suspect others also have no issue with the NGS magazine for which i have posted is a brilliant magazine and the Handbook is the best on the market and NGN will never compete with sales of the NGS magazine, so if you don't like NGN don't buy it, nobody is twisting your arm or your wallets to but it...lol.
Happy Modelling everyone!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
So you'd suggest it's only for newcomers to n gauge? A niche of a niche, and that's not how it's being marketed. Surely you see why that's a problem?
Would be interesting to know the distribution of the NGS journal versus NGN, not sure I'd be quite so convinced the journal was untouchable. The Journal benefits from being sent to some people who perhaps aren't interested, they joined the NGS for other reasons.
GOT NOTHING ELSE TO SAY ON THE MATTER. CERTAIN MEMBER IS GETTING ARGUMENTATIVE AGAIN AND I REALLY CANT BE BOTHERED WITH HIM.
HAPPY MODELLING.
AND YES I KNOW THIS POST IS IN CAPITALS.
I'm not argumentative, I'm disagreeing with you, and would be genuinely interested in a discussion. Y'know, discussion forum?
I'm sorry if you want people only to agree with you all the time. You've just repeated the same mantra that "we have to support them", what's wrong with a bit of a discussion?
I feel I've given a very fair and reasoned appraisal, you're totally rebuffing what I'm saying, it would be nice to understand why.
LISTEN I HAVE NEVER SAID "WE HAVE TO" AND NO BODY HAS TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING I SAY.
YOU ARE JUST AN ARGUMENTATIVE PERSON.
END OF STORY FROM ME.
That's fine, we can continue a grown up discussion. I don't think there's need for personal comments.
I remain very genuinely interested if my views are unduly harsh on something people deem a "fledlging" effort, or if, in this capitalist day and age, they've had their chance and they're missing the mark a little.
I do wonder what their circulation is. Is it available through any retail channels? I've only bought online or through their website. With the number of print magazines declining That would be my focus. You can potentially tap into the sort of market where people won't have read articles on these layouts. Exactly those Steamie suggests it would be ideal for.
Sort the simple presentational efforts and you're away.
Nick
Blimey!
It's only a magazine. Please can you just agree to differ and leave it there. I can see things from both sides but they are irreconcilable so either buy it or don't and send comments to the editor of the mag please.
To echo NewportNobby, let's look at objective reviews of the publication. :thumbsup:
Isn't that exactly what I've given...?
Quote from: njee20 on February 26, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
Isn't that exactly what I've given...?
Indeed it was. However, the thread is in danger of becoming a bit argumentative.
As it is a fairly old thread, it may have run it's course.
Quote from: Bealman on February 26, 2017, 10:20:46 AM
Quote from: njee20 on February 26, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
Isn't that exactly what I've given...?
Indeed it was. However, the thread is in danger of becoming a bit argumentative.
As it is a fairly old thread, it may have run it's course.
I know you love a good thread-locking, but Please don't lock it! :)
Topics will meander a little, but come back, as this one is. It's unbelievably frustrating when topics get locked for no real reason in the midst of active discussion.
I agree with escafeld that some how-to articles and such would be great, but I wonder if they're lacking in someone with the skills to do it, how do you get someone involved. It's a bit chicken/egg
Quote from: njee20 on February 26, 2017, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: Bealman on February 26, 2017, 10:20:46 AM
Quote from: njee20 on February 26, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
Isn't that exactly what I've given...?
Indeed it was. However, the thread is in danger of becoming a bit argumentative.
As it is a fairly old thread, it may have run it's course.
I know you love a good thread-locking, but Please don't lock it! :)
Topics will meander a little, but come back, as this one is. It's unbelievably frustrating when topics get locked for no real reason in the midst of active discussion.
I agree with escafeld that some how-to articles and such would be great, but I wonder if they're lacking in someone with the skills to do it, how do you get someone involved. It's a bit chicken/egg
I can assure you that neither myself or the rest of the team love (your words) thread locking.
When threads degenerate into personal arguments, then we look at the situation.
Quote from: Herzel on February 25, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on February 25, 2017, 12:02:14 PM
Quote from: mr bachmann on February 25, 2017, 11:42:24 AM
its a shame WH Smiff's don't have it in their racks so's we could have a quick peep :D
After queueing for an hour! :D
LOL. As it seems to be these days! Sadly the days are over when they had staff at various counters and you could order magazines, CDs and things and get served promptly. Now I have to eye my watch in Smiths in case the parking ticket runs out.
Last time there I said to this brusque assistant that** wanted to charge me for a bag even though it was raining without, "I was young when I came here. Look at me now!"
** can't say "who" as I'm sure it was a robot.
:D
My grand-daughter works in a WHS and I can attest that she is most assuredly NOT a robot. She is underpaid and overworked and often dealt with offhandedly and rudely by many customers who have yet to destroy her kind nature.
To be fair I think that goes for any customer facing role!
They'll be gone within 5 years I reckon, which is a shame, but their core products are dwindling, and evidently they're not differentiating enough or innovating.
Thanks Herzei. No worries, I get just as riled as you over staff who seem to have forgotten they are actually serving people. Doesn't help that so many companies are cutting costs just to stay buoyant and still maintain a High Street presence, with the highest cost being staff.
And sadly the onset of self-checkouts further reduces the need for customers to engage with staff, thus adding to the pressure on the few staff who are left to deal with the customer who hears the "unexpected item in bagging area" or "please call for assistance" disembodied voice.
But returning to the thread....
I saw an old copy of N Gauge Now at an event recently and, as a newcomer to N Gauge I thought it was a rather poor affair at first glimpses. If it's been going since 2014 it should be past the teething problems of poor printing and photographs that others here have mentioned. I won't be subscribing, but wish them well. They just need to look for a more professional finish and, as already mentioned, show some online copy to encourage sales that has real grit and originality.
Like NPN suggests, perhaps this comment would be better sent to the publishers website. I'll do just that later.
Having bought the premier edition do not buy his book N GAUGE MODELLING: AN INTRODUCTORY GUIDE as most of it is in this magazine
Quote from: Herzel on February 27, 2017, 12:08:30 PM
The magazines arrived. I've just had a glance through the 2014 "premier issue" and it isn't at all bad. Even for the original fiver it isn't heavy with ads like my occasional "Model Rail".
And d'you know what? It's refreshing. It's all N gauge. I'm don't have to wade through masses of glorious O gauge stuff in the palaces of the very wealthy, layouts they probably pay Land Tax on, nor OO - just N.
Ok, just some of the photos could be a little sharper but they do catch the mood. There's a lot of inspiration there. Maybe because I'm a railway/railway modelling novice and I haven't read them in full, that I have yet to find things out. First impression though is most favourable. As that novice it's the kind of thing I might be tempted to buy on a bookstall.
Good luck to the publisher(s).
...
Seems like someone else is prepared to give favourable reviews, we are not all experienced modellers and the knowledge from the members on our forum is the best, but sometimes it great to read of something us new to the hobby can read, yes some if not all the photos are not up to the industry standard but you are not buying it for the photos it is the content that new modellers haven't seen.
Enjoy the rest if the issues Herzel and have an open mind like most of us do. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup:
Quoteyes some if not all the photos are not up to the industry standard but you are not buying it for the photos it is the content that new modellers haven't seen.
At risk of being called argumentative... that's a really interesting post. Actually photos are very definitely one of the (overwhelming) main reasons I buy a magazine, and perhaps why blurry, wrongly captioned and pixelated ones bother me so much. I'm not really inspired by words, the words set the scene which the photos tell. I think that's why they're so crucial.
Perhaps we consume things totally differently, I'll pore over photos in a layout thread more than the words. I think that's perhaps another reason it grates, in this day and age we have such unfettered access to so much high quality media FOC, that paying for substandard images really frustrates me.
Not liking something doesn't make people close-minded, despite the petty snipe.
Not liking something doesn't make people close-minded, despite the petty snipe.
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Why is it that you try to put words into my mouth, i have never said anything or anyone being close-minded and i don't think i have said anything to have a petty snipe.
Had enough of the rubbish been said on this subject.
I'm sure the owner of N gauge Now will be reading this. I look forward to seeing a few copies at the Warley N Gauge open day on 12th March as N Gauge Now magazine will be there.
I must confess I do like nice photos of layouts so it may not be for me. The mainstream magazines do have brilliant photographers in their team with great techniques and the right equipment. Taking really good photos, especially in N gauge is very difficult. Obtaining professional quality photos from layouts all over the country is going to be expensive which may be a problem for a small fledgling enterprise.
I guess it doesn't need to be too expensive assuming (big assumption) you have the camera equipment. There are plenty of layouts out there many of which can probably be reached in a day trip - I'd be trawling the forums and contacting owners.
Is 2mmFS allowed? I'm guessing not. That's a shame, as there are a couple of stunning 2mmFS layouts out there that I've personally not seen in the press - Euston, which is a work in progress admittedly, and Water Orton(?)
Quote from: Chris Morris on February 28, 2017, 08:05:46 AM
Taking really good photos, especially in N gauge is very difficult. Obtaining professional quality photos from layouts all over the country is going to be expensive which may be a problem for a small fledgling enterprise.
Precisely. As far as I can tell it's just Howard and Robin at the moment, with most of the photographic work being Robin's job, so one man is hardly able to whizz all over the country taking high quality photos of everything featured. In this respect it's hardly fair to compare them to the likes of RM or BRM that have teams of people and a publishing house behind them. Personally I think they've done a great job so far, OK so some of the photos are less than Ideal, but that's still better than no N Gauge magazine at all :thumbsup:
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on February 28, 2017, 08:40:37 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on February 28, 2017, 08:05:46 AM
Taking really good photos, especially in N gauge is very difficult. Obtaining professional quality photos from layouts all over the country is going to be expensive which may be a problem for a small fledgling enterprise.
Precisely. As far as I can tell it's just Howard and Robin at the moment, with most of the photographic work being Robin's job, so one man is hardly able to whizz all over the country taking high quality photos of everything featured. In this respect it's hardly fair to compare them to the likes of RM or BRM that have teams of people and a publishing house behind them.
I'd be interested to know why they're printing at a lower resolution. Taking the article I mentioned on Dragonby, they're using the same photos as MR, but they're far lower res. They don't have to go anywhere or take any photos. Now I imagine Chris Nevard provided hi-res copies, so what advantage is there of lower resolution images? Desktop printers print better, but once one gets to a professional level will it come more for more fidelity in the images? I'd certainly presume not.
I think that points are now made and we don't need to keep going back to them.
njee20, I suggest that you put your points across to the authors of the magazine.
I'll take the hint and leave!
Quote from: Herzel on February 28, 2017, 09:37:30 AM
Photos? Are they THAT much better in, say, Model Rail? Railway Modeller? Is the photography itself that much better? Answer: sometimes....Sometimes mood is sacrificed for pin-sharp, frontal flash.
From what I've seen of N Gauge Now, then yes the quality of photos is significantly better in Model Rail/ Railway Modeller/BRM/Rail Express etc.
Quote from: Herzel on February 28, 2017, 09:37:30 AM
I've nothing to compare them with. Having heard a lot here about the N Gauge Society one might hope they'd offer a few back numbers at cost but it looks like one has to be bestowed with the secret handshake before anything is made available.
The NGS does offer sample journals - details used to be on adverts in RM but I'm not sure what the latest ads include. I'm sure if you drop an email to the Membership Secretary he will advise.
Cheers,
Mike
(NGS Committee member)
Quote from: Sprintex on February 28, 2017, 08:40:37 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on February 28, 2017, 08:05:46 AM
Taking really good photos, especially in N gauge is very difficult. Obtaining professional quality photos from layouts all over the country is going to be expensive which may be a problem for a small fledgling enterprise.
Precisely. As far as I can tell it's just Howard and Robin at the moment, with most of the photographic work being Robin's job, so one man is hardly able to whizz all over the country taking high quality photos of everything featured. In this respect it's hardly fair to compare them to the likes of RM or BRM that have teams of people and a publishing house behind them. Personally I think they've done a great job so far, OK so some of the photos are less than Ideal, but that's still better than no N Gauge magazine at all :thumbsup:
Paul
For two guys to get a magazine out at all is just great and they only do it part time i believe. The other mainstream mags have departments dedicated to the photographic side, so i will continue to support them has i think we should with any young business no matter what, even if it is only the once. I have said i have nothing against the NGS mag and sorry for repeating myself i have also said it is the best magazine i have read for content and knowledge about N Gauge.
End of story for me, thank you all. Happy Modelling :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I perfectly agree that different people are interested in different aspects of a layout/model, but where N Gauge Now really struggles is not the subjective "quality" of the pictures but the actual image quality ie the resolution.
It is a really simple (and basic) thing to only print images of a decent resolution ie 300 ppi (or higher). Modern cameras (and even many modern phones) will easily output that level of image quality/resolution. Anything that is pixellated in print shouldn't be being used unless it is an incredibly rare photo available in no other format (even then it is probably possible to scan a print/slide/negative to a reasonable image quality).
It is frustrating as it is such a simple fix for them to make.
Cheers, Mike
Quote from: red_death on February 28, 2017, 06:12:03 PM
I perfectly agree that different people are interested in different aspects of a layout/model, but where N Gauge Now really struggles is not the subjective "quality" of the pictures but the actual image quality ie the resolution.
It is a really simple (and basic) thing to only print images of a decent resolution ie 300 ppi (or higher). Modern cameras (and even many modern phones) will easily output that level of image quality/resolution. Anything that is pixellated in print shouldn't be being used unless it is an incredibly rare photo available in no other format (even then it is probably possible to scan a print/slide/negative to a reasonable image quality).
It is frustrating as it is such a simple fix for them to make.
Cheers, Mike
:hmmm: Even photo's uploaded onto this great forum do have pixellated one's, even blurry, ( I have done some myself ) i agree and i am definitely not going to say anymore on the subject of photo quality or content that it could be better so lets stop knocking the mag and try and support these guys. Happy Modelling :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Herzel on March 01, 2017, 12:19:39 PM
I certainly found some articles of interest and at least they had a couple of JR pages. Quite absorbing.
JR? :confused2:
As for absorption qualities of the magazine, there are cheaper and softer alternatives. ;)
:D
Japanese Rail ;)
Paul
Any publication which involves Japanese models can't be all bad ;)
I agree, there are some really good looking Japanese models out there if you know where to look. They make some pretty decent model railway stuff in Japan too :no:
Quote from: Herzel on March 18, 2017, 05:50:31 PM
There were earlier comparisons with the N Gauge Society journal. I acquired 3 copies from ebay, the latest being 2/14.
Comparing it with N Gauge Now is difficult because they seem to do different things and reflect the different editorial. The Society journal is attuned to the society and what it does.
Point is, unless things have changed in the intervening years the photos in the Society journal don't seem any better than those in N Gauge Now, an earlier point of discussion. I haven't gone at it with a microscope though. For what little may be lost in photographic precision (though I can't detect much) the larger format holds more appeal to me.
Perhaps as I move into some serious modelling I'll come to appreciate the Society a little more. I'm too much of a beginner to make much of it as yet.
I agree with above post by Herzel, same for me, i think we should enjoy what there is for N Gauge. :beers:
Regrettably, the N Gauge Journal can only print what they get sent. Please try to insure, if you send photos in to the NGJ, that they of the highest quality you can provide.
For an earlier comment, by joining the NGS you will have access to a wide range of experience in the scale by people interested primarily with N Gauge matters. Also please remember that the Society is nor populated with professional printers, photographers and journalist ( with the odd exception MrA). They are 'normal' N gaugers like you and me, doing the best they can. And we all do gain a lot by their efforts.
What a nice surprise, my postie delivered issue 10 this morning, I must admit I'd forgotten all about this mag, having only just received the society journal. With a bit of luck and some quiet time I should be able to rekindle some 'mojo'.
Regards, Ken.
Yup. Got mine at lunchtime today but have yet to read it.
I have the vague feeling this issue was a bit rushed. In the 'Prices' article there was no mention of the Chinese government decree that labour costs would rise by 20% each year for 5 years, instead leaving it as Farish stated labour costs would rise.
In the article on road vehicles some dimensions were given in centimetres as opposed to the correct millimetres.
However, I always like the in depth history of certain models such as the Halls/manors/Granges and the DMUs in this issue.
Again the comment about picture quality stands (it's almost like I took them).
Still, it's a purely N gauge mag so I'll be renewing my subscription.
Just finished reading mine and as you say Mick, at least it is all N gauge even if the pictures are not first quality. Just renewed my subscription on line.
I just had a quick read and am grateful to see that the NGF was mentioned. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Tank on May 30, 2017, 03:04:14 PM
I just had a quick read and am grateful to see that the NGF was mentioned. :thumbsup:
How dare they not?
Another nicely put together magazine, and I think they are getting into their stride. :thumbsup:
So general consensus is that the Mags pretty good except for iffy pictures. I think I might give it a try.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: austinbob on May 30, 2017, 05:12:07 PM
So general consensus is that the Mags pretty good except for iffy pictures. I think I might give it a try.
:thumbsup:
Mine arrived today, and it looks promising. I am renewing for another year, using the special offer on the yellow insert. It is now my only regular subscription other than the NGS journal. While I have expressed some personal doubts on this thread about how long I might take it, anyone should try it out, for at least a year, and form their own opinion. We all have our own needs, expectations and hopes. And it will only succeed if advertisers want to support it, for which we have to buy it, and above all as with the NGS journal, if we are able to provide interesting articles. Hmm. What can I write about?
I'll be signing up after the soaps tonight. Got to get your priorities right. I know.... That's just so sad.
:) :beers:
Got my copy and i don't care about the photos, enough has been said about them on here, it's the amount of information that is more important i think and yes you don't have to wade through loads of pages of the other gauges to read a few on N Gauge. i liked this mag from the 1st time i read it last August and it is getting better and better has @Snowwolflair (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761) and @austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403) have said. I also will be taking the yearly offer.
Great magazine :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Subscription updated for another year.
Photos cost money and when they get bigger they will follow.
Likewise - subscription paid and also ordered issue 9
:beers:
Just done mine too :beers:
Autumn edition arrived this AM
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Quote from: Railwaygun on August 30, 2017, 08:30:10 PM
Autumn edition arrived this AM
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Yeh. Got mine today as well very nice too. One of the best N gauge mags around I think. Oh... and by the way Railwaygun, mine was printed the right way up!!! Sorry- couldn't resist...
:D :beers:
Got mine this morning as well. Some interesting content.
Quote from: austinbob on August 30, 2017, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Railwaygun on August 30, 2017, 08:30:10 PM
Autumn edition arrived this AM
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Yeh. Got mine today as well very nice too. One of the best N gauge mags around I think. Oh... and by the way Railwaygun, mine was printed the right way up!!! Sorry- couldn't resist...
:D :beers:
Amazing what a couple of mouse clicks can do!!! Don't have to stand on my head now.
Great magazine though.
Thanks for correcting that Railwaygun
:beers:
Quote from: austinbob on August 30, 2017, 08:39:01 PM
Quote from: austinbob on August 30, 2017, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Railwaygun on August 30, 2017, 08:30:10 PM
Autumn edition arrived this AM
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Yeh. Got mine today as well very nice too. One of the best N gauge mags around I think. Oh... and by the way Railwaygun, mine was printed the right way up!!! Sorry- couldn't resist...
:D :beers:
Amazing what a couple of mouse clicks can do!!! Don't have to stand on my head now.
Great magazine though.
Thanks for correcting that Railwaygun
:beers:
Perhaps you had the Australasian version!
You could be right.
Perhaps @Bealman (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) got his the right way up to start with.
Don't want to labour this.... Railwaygun doesn't deserve it he's always, as ever, a nice and very helpful guy.
Twas quite amusing though.
:) :beers:
Some interesting features in this edition. I was very happy to see 'Ludlow' featured as Ian brought it to the last Bamber Bridge Meet Up and I've seen it at several local shows since.
I think I'll subscribe to 4 issues. I have this one (#11) on order. Quite informative besides the photos that are helpful to acquiring a feel for this scale. I bought a few back numbers.
Better than the regular shop magazines that only pay lip service to the scale.
I like the informative articles you would probably not expect from a mainstream mag like the one this time on Metcalfe Models, well researched ,different and informative.
I have also enjoyed the articles in previous editions on the history of the various model railway manufacturers. The mag certainly in my view brings a different aspect to model railway magazine journalism.
Bret
C'mon - where is my copy? ???. I saw above that there is an article on Metcalfe Models - guess who has managed to wangle himself an invite to the factory where members of the public are "not generally allowed" ? :P. I am really looking forward to the visit and will report back under the 'Metcalfe Models' thread on my return. :)
How have you managed to wangle that, David? :envy:
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Modesty forbids me to divulge the means employed. - sorry! >:D. However, whilst there, I will broach the subject of other members visiting, on a very infrequent basis of course - you never know, they might welcome the occasional visit from forum members. :beers:
Just ordered the first six editions. See what they are like.
Like most I don't bother with the OO mags and also not keen on the NG Journal and let my subscription lapse a few years back.
Hoping these are a good read,
Cudders
Quote from: cudders on September 04, 2017, 10:53:18 PM
Just ordered the first six editions. See what they are like.
Like most I don't bother with the OO mags and also not keen on the NG Journal and let my subscription lapse a few years back.
Hoping these are a good read,
Cudders
What I like is for £3.95 I get about £3.90's worth of useful material, compared with Model Rail that would give me about 30p worth, mostly ads and 00 or 0 gauge offerings.
Definitely worth support.
Quote from: cudders on September 04, 2017, 10:53:18 PM
Just ordered the first six editions. See what they are like.
Like most I don't bother with the OO mags and also not keen on the NG Journal and let my subscription lapse a few years back.
Hoping these are a good read,
Cudders
Hi all,
How long do these take to come??
Ordered on the 4th, confirmation email on the 5th and still nothing!
I've emailed them but nothing back yet.
Cudders
Mine was set for dispatch on the 5th, but still nothing at present. Glad I'm not alone! The last order I made I wasn't on their list.
Not making excuses for them but maybe holidays??
Quote from: dannyboy on September 01, 2017, 08:14:44 PM
C'mon - where is my copy?
Whilst at TINGS I spoke to Howard (?) and collected my copy from him. Apparently there was a slight hiccough sending out copies to the few subscribers, (me included), who do not live in the UK. He did say that they would be sent out this week, so hopefully, those of you not in the UK will either have your copy now, or it is on the way.
As an apology for the continuing lateness of the N Gauge Now mag, I have today received my free copy of their 2017/18 Directory of N Gauge Locomotives, and interesting reading it is too.
Quote from: newportnobby on September 28, 2017, 04:16:10 PM
As an apology for the continuing lateness of the N Gauge Now mag, I have today received my free copy of their 2017/18 Directory of N Gauge Locomotives, and interesting reading it is too.
I just got a copy of that. Is it not part of the subscription? There was no note in the envelope to explain otherwise.
As you say though - interesting little document.
:beers:
Quote from: austinbob on September 28, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
Is it not part of the subscription?
I think it is, Bob, but is by way of an apology to subscribers for delays.
I subscribed when this magazine was first announced but for reasons I never understood the publisher had a devil of a time posting issues to the USA even though I paid the extra required for overseas postage with my subscription. I think I received one issue in the span of several months. However, Mr. Foy was polite and professional when I cancelled my subscription and he refunded the balance of what I had paid.
It was a bit of a shame since I liked the issue I did receive.
Matt
I received an email of apology from Howard and he has sent me the current issues I was due, including the fantastic directory. :thumbsup:
Never heard of this mag. Can someone please post a link to the subscription page.
:thankyousign:
Here you go - http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/ (http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/)
Quote from: Tank on September 29, 2017, 06:31:20 PM
Here you go - http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/ (http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/)
Cheers buddy.
:beers:
Quote from: Tank on September 29, 2017, 05:57:24 PM
I received an email of apology from Howard and he has sent me the current issues I was due, including the fantastic directory. :thumbsup:
Glad they've brought you up to date, Tank :thumbsup:
I am amused that a picture I took in 2012 and posted to RMweb (post #68) here:
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/12615-union-mills/page-3 (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/12615-union-mills/page-3)
of the Union Mills Southern 700 class is on the cover of the "Directory of N Gauge Locomotives" advertised here:
http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/ (http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/)
I would have happily given permission to use the photo but it would have been nice to have been asked first!
Matt
personally i think it is not good value for money i purchased one at tings , upon reading it i thought that it is only of interest to rivet counters etc. i am newish to railways real and modelling. i have had a steep learning curve over the last 9 years since starting,what with buying rm and brm and various books and peco booklets etc. at my age at 75 i do not need to find out more than via these magazines and the great reading i have obtained from this wonderful forum
Issue 12 has just dropped through the letterbox so I know what I'll be reading this afternoon :D
How's it doing NN? Any real changes to a year ago?
Mine has recently arrived.
Quote from: njee20 on December 05, 2017, 01:19:37 PM
How's it doing NN? Any real changes to a year ago?
Not many articles caught my interest as they were about modern image stuff or locos I would not run as they are outside my modelled area. Hopefully it will suit others better. Everything about TINGS has been done so more is passé. Reviews are OK but have been done in the monthlies, and some of the pics are still awful. There's one of a couple of Pendolinos and a Nelevator which is barely discernable.
An article about internet fora wasn't done so will now appear in the following issue.
I'm really not sure if I'll be renewing my subscription :-\
Modern sounds good, but based on the rest of it I'm disinclined to re-revisit it. A real shame.
I must admit that initially I liked this, and it was my only magazine that I got, but I am afraid I ended up not renewing my membership, as I found less and less of interest.
just my view.
I guess the problem with the mag and, to a certain extent, the NGS Journal, is that via this great forum we get instant news/reviews so there may be something in the monthlies we haven't heard but bi-monthly and beyond will always struggle to provide news. At least the pics in the NGS Journal are of decent quality. I do like N Gauge Now's articles on the history of a certain model. Although the class 66 is not my cuppa tea their piece on Granges, Halls and Manors in a previous issue I thought was great.
At least, unlike the monthlies, it is 100% N gauge.
Yes, I do agree, we're spoiled now with access to so much media. Even layout topics in threads online have the potential to be vastly more detailed than you can manage in a magazine, although I still enjoy thumbing through a paper magazine and poring over pictures and track plans!
There's definitely a market, I think you're right it's in 'proper' articles, that don't tend to proliferate on forums.
I too like a real magazine and happily pore over track plans, train operation and train make up articles etc. As well as sometimes finding some scenic and other things of interest. Since the start of 2017 I have only subscribed to N gauge Now on top of receiving the NGS Journal (member since 1984). I have purchased around 5 mainstream during the year (a mix of BRM, RM and Hornby) because of articles of interest.
We all have different needs and preference's. My own interests are fairly focused and I have been around long enough to have accumulated as much basic knowledge of layout construction and development as I feel i need for the present. Hence I don't get as much from the mainstream as many will.
This forum and its Facebook manifestation, provide an ideal means of exchanging current experience and thinking.
I have enjoyed taking N Gauge Now, since it launched, but it remains to be seen whether it is developing enough for me to renew again during 2018. The historic articles on classes actual history and development of models has probably gone as far as I personally find valuable. Knowing the catalogue numbers of different releases is helpful if I want to identify a release with NEM pockets for example. But again I think I have as much as I need in the forseeable future. And the fact that the latest issue had so many pages devoted to this sort of article perhaps reflected the lack of other material?
Anyway I will make up my mind during 2018. Others must decide for themselves. Having a pure N Gauge magazine is certainly pleasant, although many articles in the traditional mags even if taken from a specific layout/scale were also applicable to us.
And if there is a lack of material, that is in part down to all of us. It is a long time since I appeared in print. (Who said a good thing too!)
Quote from: Portpatrick on December 06, 2017, 12:08:57 PM
II have enjoyed taking N Gauge Now, since it launched, but it remains to be seen whether it is developing enough for me to renew again during 2018. The historic articles on classes actual history and development of models has probably gone as far as I personally find valuable...
I think this is an important observation, so thanks for sharing it. I see this is a potential flaw in all the model railway magazines.
Historical perspectives on locos, rolling stock, locations or railway companies can be a good read if they're done well. Even if they're something I'd never model -- say a narrow gauge line in Ireland that was closed down in 1922 -- if the article is well illustrated, has details I'd not find online, and above all written in an engaging, even opinionated, style, then I'll enjoy that piece.
Articles aimed at collectors are tricky. On the one hand, knowing how many different manufacturers make kits or models of a particular prototype is really useful. But such articles seem to be difficult to write in an engaging style, and unless its about something I know I'm going to model, I tend to skip these.
Cheers, NeMo
Mine turned up. Heavy on the British this time. I think it's priced reasonably fairly. One good side is the absence of ads so it won't be getting revenue that could keep prices down. As I know little about railways it's a cohesive source of information from the modelling side although the amount of detail is overwhelming, classes and variations and things. I could be critical about the lack of constructional articles but I won't because it can only do so much per issue. It's firing up my son's interest in starting a layout. I shall have to keep it away from him!
Reading the above, I bought two back copies with my interests in. Have to say it's very well produced to an excellent standard and the articles are well written. Excellent reviews and photography. It's very good value at the cover price but the postage really adds a lot. Still, it's all "N" and no ads! Recommended.
Have just received a message in the post from Howard Foy (Editor/Publisher)....
"For personal and business reasons, we regret that the Spring issue of N Gauge Now, due for publication before the end of February, will be unavoidably delayed by 3-4 weeks. We now hope to publish this issue in time for Easter."
Quote from: newportnobby on March 02, 2018, 11:32:40 AM
Have just received a message in the post from Howard Foy (Editor/Publisher)....
"For personal and business reasons, we regret that the Spring issue of N Gauge Now, due for publication before the end of February, will be unavoidably delayed by 3-4 weeks. We now hope to publish this issue in time for Easter."
My note only arrived this week, I think it was Thursday (8th). To be honest I had forgotten all about it!
John
Issue 13 - Spring 2018 has just dropped through the letter box so I'll have something to read this afternoon :D
An excellent couple of hours reading, given that I pretty much skipped over the "In Focus - West Coast Electrics" (10 pages) and the APT article (10 pages). Rapido/RevolutioN got excellent mentions and there are some excellent articles on the LNER non pacific locos such as the B1, B17, V2 and J39, another on train formations and a guide to coach type acronyms, and finally one about internet fora for railway modellers where the NGF gets a couple of columns and the comment in the mag of .....
"That brings us, at last, to what you've all no doubt been waiting for - our scale's very own talking shop, the N GAUGE FORUM (their caps).
This is, naturally, the one forum which can be recommended wholeheartedly to N Gauge Now readers..."
A most enjoyable issue.
Not only that, but the next issue (14) scheduled for publication end May promises "A close look at the N Gauge Forum" so I hope @Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) had his best bib and tucker on if he was interviewed!
I also look forward to the focus in that issue on the Class 40 Whistlers, the Stanier BLack 5 and the 8F.
Lovely to hear! :beers: Sadly I doubt I'll ever see it as my last two issues haven't arrived!!! Great to see that we've been recommended though, and what praise! :thumbsup:
Praise is well deserved!! :)
Contents & website
www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk (http://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/941-130418211114-641021060.jpeg)
Received today but not read yet - Issue 14 Summer 2018
Including.......
Model Focus 1 - Stanier Black 5s profiled
Model Focus 2 - Stanier 8Fs
Directory Enquiries - All you can buy in N gauge locos right now
The Perfect Pendolino - how the model came together
Sort 'em out - freight train formations
Model Focus 3 - the Class 40 Whistlers
Lyddle Ended - what happened to the Hornby N gauge models
Model Focus Extra - class 90 25Kv electrics for the WCML
and others
Still waiting for my issue 14 to arrive, I subbed back in June. They are hopeless at replying to emails >:(
Pete
I have heard that from many sources, Pete. IMO businesses have to have good communications.
It takes a long time to build up a good reputation and 5 minutes to lose it.
Afraid I stopped subscribing some time ago.......errattic publlcation dates, poor communications and a content which was, to a large degree, re-iterating old knowledge.....I didn't see the point in continuing.
Those are good points - there are only so many articles that can be written about the history of N gauge.
Pete
As I mentioned elsewhere, I have had communication with Howard Foy. He'll be sending me my missing issue and the N Gauge Forum will have a lovely advert in the magazine which I'm excited about. :)
Howard is now a member on here, so hopefully when things calm down for him with the current issue he can talk to members on here for ideas and resolving any problems.
Still waiting for the Summer issue. Had no reply from Engee, so put in a PayPal claim to get my money back :censored:
Pete
I had a phone call out of the blue from Howard, apologising for the delay. So he's trying, at least!
Must be hard to write, publish and distribute a magazine on your own - not trying to excuse tardy communication, of course.
I am still waiting for issue 14. I sent an email to Howard, but it was only two days ago.
I managed to buy issue 14 twice (god damd early dementia) if anyone wants a free copy.
Paul
Managed to get a refund from PayPal. I do think waiting over two months with no replies to emails is unacceptable in this day and age.
@Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) I've just received the Issue 15 - Autumn 2018 copy and the forum is heavily featured with a full page ad inside the front cover and a 2½ page article towards the back. Sadly the pics of screenshots of the forum are pretty dire, but many a comment has been made about the pic quality in N Gauge Now.
Some good articles on track systems, Panniers and 2nd generation DMUs.
If you're heading to TINGS they will be on stand 42.
Sorry if this is rubbing salt in the wounds of those who are waiting previous issues/replies from Howard Foy.
My issue 15 also dropped with a thud on my doormat today.
As luck would have it, Issue 15 arrived with me today! Still waiting on Issue 14 though and I had a refund from PayPal. I will wait for Howard to get in touch and then send him the money... I'm sure he will get annoyed knowing that I have a free sub at the moment :laugh3:
Received issue 15 today as well. I was a little surprised; I wasn't expecting it for a while yet :)
Autumn started 1.9.18 and TINGS is this weekend so I guess they may have advanced the release a bit for the show.
I ended up buying a copy of issue 14 (plus a binder for the next 12 issues).
Have most people who subscribe got issue 15 yet?
I am still waiting for issue 14! And still had no reply to the email I sent on 1st September. :(. I realise that Howard has had some problems in the past, but, like petejones on the forum, I have now submitted a claim to Paypal.
Quote from: middlefour on September 17, 2018, 04:33:50 PM
Have most people who subscribe got issue 15 yet?
I obviously can't speak for anyone else but I have my copy and have had for a couple of weeks.
Received mine a week or so ago.
Being quarterly, I tend to forget about it just as the next one arrives, so the delays arent a huge problem.
Still waiting for 14 and 15 as well. :(
I was given a copy of issue 12 by a fellow forum member. I like the magazine despite some of the 'muddy' pictures, I found the articles well written and interesting. This might have had something to do with the fact that my favourite loco featured prominently :D
I would consider subscribing were it not for the delivery issues mentioned by others. I hope these are sorted out soon. Even better would be a digital version of the magazine. I wonder if the publishers have considered this?
The Spring 2019 issue has just dropped through my letterbox and has some very good articles, notably the Union Mills 'J' classes and the model history of the classes 24/25 (I do like those model history articles). Plenty of publicity for the forum, too.
I'd forgotten about this, didn't realise it was still going! Perhaps I ought to give it another chance.
Sounds great. Sadly, I haven't had this or the last issue. I gave up emailing.
With due apologies to @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) if he's still not getting his mags, but I recently received Issue 21 Spring 2020 and there are some very good articles in it, notably one on the class 73s and another on LNER locos from Union Mills which I'm sure @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) would be interested in.
Of course, being (like the NGS Journal) a periodical the news is never as up to date as a platform like the NGF but, unlike the monthlies and like the Journal, it's 100% N gauge.
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 24, 2020, 11:36:03 AM
... there are some very good articles in it, notably one on the class 73s and another on LNER locos from Union Mills which I'm sure @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) would be interested in.
Many thanks for the tip-off, Mick.
I've ordered this issue. I await its arrival with interest as I've never seen this publication.
Thanks again.
John
I got mine thanks Mick. Looks like a good issue. A shame that the quality of the NGF advert has suddenly become pixelated, and the advert on the back for the N Gauge SouthEast show is now void...! Looking forward to next year!!!
How have they not fixed those things?! I swear it was 3 years ago we were talking about pixelated adverts!
Personally I really look forward to the mag arriving, I have every one. It is a breath of fresh air to me to read about totally N gauge.
Such a lot of research goes into the articles either historical ones about manufacturers or important N Gauge pioneers or tracing the histories of the prototypes and model histories of the prototypes. Even down to manufacturer model codes and dates.
The current mag has an excellent article on the LNER and the history of the class 73 ED's, a history of Virgin Trains, a layout description of Hatch End and road vehicles in "N" A pretty varied selection I think.
The guys who write these articles sure do a lot of research. Howard does a superb job in my view.
N Gauge South East was no doubt still on when the mag went to press and to be honest I had not noticed the pixels in the Forum advert, looked fine to me.
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 24, 2020, 11:36:03 AM
...I recently received Issue 21 Spring 2020 and there are some very good articles in it, notably one on the class 73s and another on LNER locos from Union Mills which I'm sure @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) would be interested in.
I ordered a copy of this magazine and it arrived today. I had never seen
N Gauge Now before and found it an interesting read. I enjoyed the article about LNER locomotives made by Union Mills; it was good to see these lovely models getting some well-deserved publicity. If any Forum Friends are interesting in acquiring any of the locomotives mentioned in the article, there are a couple of points of information that might just be helpful.
The locomotives listed in the article as 'D16/2', including the one in the photograph (No. 62614) are actually class 'D16/3'. The story of the 'D15' and 'D16' classes is a complex one, but if it has the round-topped Gresley-style boiler, it's a 'D16/3'. The Union Mills
List of Union Mills Locomotives Made correctly has these as D16/3'.
The locomotives listed in the article as 'GNR/NER Raven 'Q6' Class 0-8-0' are interesting. The Union Mills model, correctly listed by Union Mills, is one of Harry Ivatt's GNR 'Long Toms', as classified 'Q2' by the LNER. The LNER added 3000 to the numbers of ex-GNR locomotives until Edward Thompson's comprehensive renumbering scheme of 1943, completed in 1946. As far as I can tell No. 3454 has a correct pre-War number for a 'Q2'. The class became extinct in 1935 so were not given 'Thompson' numbers. Apart from one, the other locomotives listed in the article have post-War numbers (or the BR number with a 6 added) in the 3340-3459 series. These were class 'Q6', Sir Vincent Raven's NER 0-8-0s. Fascinatingly, No. 3454 also fits in this post-War sequence! The article has a nice photograph of a 'Q6', complete with outside cylinders and NER cab. It also has a photograph on a Union Mills 'Q2' with inside cylinders and Ivatt cab. The article also lists No. 2259, which was the pre-War number for a 'Q6', later 3416. To conclude, the model is a 'Q2' and was listed by Union Mills as such, but the later numbers are for locomotives of Class 'Q6'.
I'd be very glad to receive any corrections to my notes.
Best wishes.
John
I have just come across this publication thanks to the advert on this forum.
Going to order the latest issue to give it a try. Whilst I have my wallet out is it worth ordering a couple of previous issues as well?
Seems to be some favourable reviews and comments on this thread :)
Definitely worth buying a few especially at the price he is now selling his early back copies
One thing to note with the D16/3 if you are thinking of renumbering the model is that there were two distinct versions.
One had the original GER style running plate/footplate with decorative valancing over the coupled wheels. The second version had the valancing cut away when rebuilt. The original style, with the exception of 'Royal Claud' 8783, was retained by locos rebuilt with a new boiler from the so-called 'Super Clauds'.
The reversing rod was also a different shape on those locos rebuilt with piston valves as compared to the rod on those which retained slide valves.
As Train Waiting says, the history of the class was quite involved when developed and then rebuilt; see 'Locomotives of the LNER' by the RCTS vol 3C.
martyn