Slow laptop

Started by Papyrus, October 08, 2019, 10:46:57 AM

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Railwaygun

Quote from: Papyrus on October 09, 2019, 08:56:02 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 09, 2019, 04:39:34 PM
Worth a look in the task manager, right click on the task bar at the bottom. One of the options is a list of programmes that run on start up. If there is something you don't recognise, look it up on the internet before disabling it. It may help. Also loading the registry can slow things down, so a SSD as mentioned before can speed things up. A proprietary register cleaner might help but don't trust any free ones.

Hello Malc,

I have attached (I hope) a screenshot of the Task Manager, which looks OK to me, although the 205 seconds BIOS time is obviously the problem.

@themadhippy , the logo appears just before the lock screen appears, so presumably at the end of the BIOS setup.

Thanks, @Railwaygun , for your comprehensive reply. I have tried to run chkdsk without much success, but I will try some of your other suggestions when I have more time.

I will keep you posted.

Cheers,

Chris

Try typing CHKDSK into the Windows button/text box in l lower corner of screen then press enter

Journey bios load times seem unreasonably long

Try resetting bios settings to defaults

Start tapping f10 and then start your laptop. What appears on the screen after starting and continually tapping f10? On the Samsung there should be an option to modify BIOS Settings on the page. Select that and you will enter BIOS.
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Quote from: Papyrus on October 09, 2019, 08:56:02 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 09, 2019, 04:39:34 PM
Worth a look in the task manager, right click on the task bar at the bottom. One of the options is a list of programmes that run on start up. If there is something you don't recognise, look it up on the internet before disabling it. It may help. Also loading the registry can slow things down, so a SSD as mentioned before can speed things up. A proprietary register cleaner might help but don't trust any free ones.

Hello Malc,

I have attached (I hope) a screenshot of the Task Manager, which looks OK to me, although the 205 seconds BIOS time is obviously the problem.

@themadhippy , the logo appears just before the lock screen appears, so presumably at the end of the BIOS setup.

Thanks, @Railwaygun , for your comprehensive reply. I have tried to run chkdsk without much success, but I will try some of your other suggestions when I have more time.

I will keep you posted.

Cheers,

Chris

I would start up msconfig and stop
All
Start up progs except windows defender .
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barnyswain

read the original post

the slowness is before the laptop even tries to boot so replacing the HD or OS isn't going to help


red_death

Yes, that makes me wonder if there is a problem with the BIOS or motherboard.



Malc

Just as a matter of interest, does it show the correct time when it does boot up?
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Papyrus

Hello all,

Many thanks for all your replies. I've now managed to run CHKDSK but it came up with nothing. @Malc the date and time are always correct.

Searching the internet regarding computer problems is usually a waste of time for me because I don't understand the answers! However, on this occasion I did come up with this advice:

An easy way to reduce your notebook's boot time is to make sure the BIOS boots off the internal hard disk drive first. The BIOS on most laptops is configured to try to boot off of the optical disk drive and then off one or two other devices (such as a USB flash drive) before attempting to boot off the hard drive. To change these settings, simply enter the BIOS (usually by pressing F2, F12 or the escape key during the boot process), navigate to the Boot menu and move Internal Hard Disk Drive to the top of the Boot Priority list.

I managed to get into BIOS (thank you again, @Railwaygun ) and navigated to Boot Drive Priority. This is what it gave me:

Touch Pad Mouse            Enabled
Secure Boot                   Enabled

Internet LAN                  Enabled
PXE OPROM                   Disabled

Is this how it should be? The first 3 I can understand but the 4th is a mystery. What is it, and should it be enabled? And is this the right order?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm beginning to hope that there is nothing seriously wrong with my laptop (fingers crossed!) and a few tweaks might sort it out.

Thanks again, everybody,

Cheers,

Chris

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They don't sound like boot priority options.  I would expect the choices to be Hard Disk, USB,  CD-Rom.  That sort of thing.
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Malc

PXE I remember from the early days when PCs didn't have hard drives, but booted from a network. I don't think it applies these days. However as Nick says, those options look like boot options, rather than drive order.
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#23
Quote from: Papyrus on October 10, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Hello all,

Many thanks for all your replies. I've now managed to run CHKDSK but it came up with nothing. @Malc the date and time are always correct.

Searching the internet regarding computer problems is usually a waste of time for me because I don't understand the answers! However, on this occasion I did come up with this advice:

An easy way to reduce your notebook's boot time is to make sure the BIOS boots off the internal hard disk drive first. The BIOS on most laptops is configured to try to boot off of the optical disk drive and then off one or two other devices (such as a USB flash drive) before attempting to boot off the hard drive. To change these settings, simply enter the BIOS (usually by pressing F2, F12 or the escape key during the boot process), navigate to the Boot menu and move Internal Hard Disk Drive to the top of the Boot Priority list.

I managed to get into BIOS (thank you again, @Railwaygun ) and navigated to Boot Drive Priority. This is what it gave me:

Touch Pad Mouse            Enabled
Secure Boot                   Enabled

Internet LAN                  Enabled
PXE OPROM                   Disabled

Is this how it should be? The first 3 I can understand but the 4th is a mystery. What is it, and should it be enabled? And is this the right order?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm beginning to hope that there is nothing seriously wrong with my laptop (fingers crossed!) and a few tweaks might sort it out.

Thanks again, everybody,

Cheers,

Chris

I would turn off all items on the bootvdrive priority,starting with secure boot

It would help if you could tell us the Samsung model number

F2 at boot up ( press S soon as switched on and keep pressing) should get you into the BIOS setup

Yet when I surveyed all that my hands had done and what I had toiled to achieve, everything was meaningless, a chasing after the wind;
Ecclesiastes 2:11

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It may contain alternative facts

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Papyrus

#24
Hello people, sorry I haven't replied for a few days.

I tried some of the simpler remedies suggested, but chickened out of anything I didn't understand. Nothing made any difference, so I took it into my local laptop repair shop yesterday. They have told me the problem is with the graphics card which is apparently failing but unfortunately not repairable. I can't complain - the laptop is 7 years old, and it was my wife's cast-off! I have the machine back and will keep going with it as long as I can, but it will need replacing sooner than I had hoped.

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Cheers,

Chris

guest8885

probably to late to be of help
first use disc clean to get rid of rubbish, i also use privacy eraser free which is easy to use
and does a good job.
when thats finished on a disc you can run defrag (not on ssd) analyse the disc then optimise.
programs can be scattered over the disc in parts optimise will rearrange to best possible advantae.
it may take some time if you havnt done this before.
also look at start up programs do you need them all open, delete any you dont need at start up.
you do need your security programs of course, but many you can open as and when needed.
do not drop windows update, even thoug it can cause small problems
i really good program thats free is O&O shut up win10. simple to use and you will be very surprissed
what can be disabled, and how much of your computer info is being read.

guest8885

Quote from: Papyrus on October 08, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
I am using a Samsung laptop which is about 5 years old now and it has suddenly decided to become reluctant to wake up. When I switch it on the blue light comes on but the screen remains black and it takes 3-4 minutes before even the Samsung logo is displayed. After that it works fine - no slower than it was before. The hard drive is about three-quarters full and I don't recall adding any more programs recently. Should I worry? Is this easily fixable or should I start saving up for a new machine?

Any advice gratefully received, but I'm not very techy so please speak ser-low-erly and ca-lear-ly!

Thanks,

Chris

guest8885

Quote from: Papyrus on October 08, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
I am using a Samsung laptop which is about 5 years old now and it has suddenly decided to become reluctant to wake up. When I switch it on the blue light comes on but the screen remains black and it takes 3-4 minutes before even the Samsung logo is displayed. After that it works fine - no slower than it was before. The hard drive is about three-quarters full and I don't recall adding any more programs recently. Should I worry? Is this easily fixable or should I start saving up for a new machine?

Any advice gratefully received, but I'm not very techy so please speak ser-low-erly and ca-lear-ly!

type start up next to windows logo the search box see whats loading, or its in administrative tools
disable the crap. use bulk crap uninstaller if its disk defragment (not ssd)
if its win 10 use O&O shutupwin 10. desparate use privacy eraser its ver good.

Thanks,

Chris

Papyrus

Hello Alan,

Thanks for the advice. You're right - things have moved on and I have a new laptop! The old one was starting to behave very erratically. I do clean and defragment fairly regularly so I knew that wasn't the issue. Anyway, problem solved.

Cheers,

Chris

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