Is this the same Class?

[Oldun]

New loco from GF to be released soon. Claims to be an N Class 2-6-0.

Check out their picture and the real thing. Is it my imagination or are
the cylinders completely different


GF version 


The real thing.

The GF ones seem to be flat sided and the two cylinders the same diameter,
whereas the real one has a small top cylinder - large bottom cylinder giving
inwards slope at the top

Roger

[Steven B]

There's a picture of 31844 about a third of the way down this page
http://www.davidheyscollection.com/page35.htm

- the cylinders are as per the Farish model.

31822 as per the photo in the OP's message is a class N1 - note the distinct step in the footplate just behind the front buffer beam and different smoke deflectors as a result:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECR_N_class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECR_N1_class


Happy modelling.

Steven B.

[tutenkhamunsleeping]

Don't panic, the model is of an N, whilst your pro to photo is an N1 - slightly different class.

[dodger]

The N1 was a 3 cylinder version of the 2 cylinder N class specifically for the Hastings route. The N1 had smaller cylinders which reduced the overall width so complying with the Hastings line load gauge.

Dodger

[Oldun]

There's a picture of 31844 about a third of the way down this page
http://www.davidheyscollection.com/page35.htm

- the cylinders are as per the Farish model.

31822 as per the photo in the OP's message is a class N1 - note the distinct step in the footplate just behind the front buffer beam and different smoke deflectors as a result:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECR_N_class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECR_N1_class

The N1 was a 3 cylinder version of the 2 cylinder N class specifically for the Hastings route. The N1 had smaller cylinders which reduced the overall width so complying with the Hastings line load gauge.

Thank you very much gentlemen 

That's one I will not be buying then. The picture I posted of the engine shed is
the one I am modelling my entire 'layout' on and would like to stock it with the
'correct' class of loco's as far as possible.

Any one know if an N1 is available 

Roger

[Oldun]

  Sorry for the double posting above but, there was a hiccup with the forum
connection. Pressed 'preview' and got 'error 500' notice. Went back to reply window
and pressed 'post' - result = 2 postings 

Roger

Duplicate now removed

[Karhedron]

That's one I will not be buying then. The picture I posted of the engine shed is
the one I am modelling my entire 'layout' on and would like to stock it with the
'correct' class of loco's as far as possible.

Any one know if an N1 is available 

Sorry, the N1 is not available RTR (not sure if there is a kit of it). You may wish to consider your layout plan in light of the available stock. I am not sure if any of the locos in that picture are available RTR (Union Mills might do one two).

I understand the appeal of recreating a particular scene in model form but unless you are capable and prepared to do a lot of scratch-building, you may find this shot a struggle. I don't wish to disuade you, just make sure you are aware of the scale of the task.

[Oldun]

Sorry, the N1 is not available RTR (not sure if there is a kit of it). You may wish to consider your layout plan in light of the available stock. I am not sure if any of the locos in that picture are available RTR (Union Mills might do one two).
I understand the appeal of recreating a particular scene in model form but unless you are capable and prepared to do a lot of scratch-building, you may find this shot a struggle. I don't wish to disuade you, just make sure you are aware of the scale of the task.

Thanks for the above info, I think I may get away with using an N class in place of the N1 (Rule 1 ) seeing as its only
a 'refinement' in its design 

Roger

[Dorsetmike]

You could always do a little hacking, reshape the cylinders and build up the front end of the footplate!

OR by fitting a set of scale 6' driving wheels & adding small splashers make a U or U1.

[dodger]

That's one I will not be buying then. The picture I posted of the engine shed is
the one I am modelling my entire 'layout' on and would like to stock it with the
'correct' class of loco's as far as possible.

Roger

I wouldn't worry about half the N's were allocated to the Eastern Section in the 1950's and were much more numerous than the N1's.

If I have guessed correctly Gillingham had 2 N's allocated to it, with one diagram,  in the late 50's.  My diagrams for winter 1957 show 6 N's going onto Gillingham shed daily including the local one plus another working to Gillingham yard but no N1's. My guess the N1 in your photo is covering the diagram of another class, possibly an N.

Dodger

[Oldun]

You could always do a little hacking, reshape the cylinders and build up the front end of the footplate!

I think I may/will have to, and re number it 31822.

From 'RailUK' site.

31822 Introduced 1922. Maunsell 3-cylinder development of Class N for the South East & Chatham Railway (SECR). Classification 4MT.

Roger