Dapol Maunsell coaches

Started by Dorsetmike, September 12, 2013, 08:43:24 PM

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Mr chapman

I've sent Dapol an Email about the roof. Will report back when I get a reply.
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talisman56

Well the light-fitted coaches ran for 25 minutes continuously tonight and no excess temperatures detected. I'm going to be fitting the rest of the fleet eventually, but I'll keep an eye out for 'hot runners'.

There was a lot of scoffing at the sight of a 'Greyhound' with 12-up, but the N Gauge version was coping admirably, and could possibly had more on the drawbar...
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Elvinley

I have had a couple of rogue lightbars. They tend to heat up pretty quickly and do indeed melt the roofs. The ones that work fine have never shown any signs of this so I think it is just something to be on the lookout for when initially fitting them. Dapol were very helpful when I contacted them about it.

ahodgett

The light bars both yellow and white do have this problem occasionally. I have fitted all my LBR coaches and have had about 8 failures of this kind. I did contact Dapol a week or two ago and was told they didn't know about the problem, but it is definitely the voltage regulator in either the 7550-1 or 7550 or earlier 74 series which gets so hot it will burn you if you touch it. So on fitting now, I run without the roof for a while and check before fittng the roof. I haven't had one develop the fault over time, it's always been from new. So will copy this email to Dapol as I have about 7 of the 8 duff ones sitting here. I tried to remove the VR to replace it on the 8th one, but it's difficult with the way it's soldered in place.
I did take it up on the MERG group, but didn't get any firm conclusions.

Regards
Arthur   

ahodgett

I'm thinking of making a little test rig for the light bars. does anyone perhaps know of a source for the little plugs and sockets that Dapol use or a part number? I've tried searching but unsuccessfully?
Regards
Arthur

Plainline.

Just a quick question. I am thinking of composing a branch line set of two maunsell coaches in the BR era, say late fifties, early sixties. Has anyone got any advice on which of the Dapol coaches would be suitable? Set would probably be hauled by an M7.

Kris

Most likely you would be looking for a brake composite and a brake 3rd, or a brake comp and a 3rd corridor.

Dorsetmike

Some of the push pull sets had a Maunsell 3rd Open and a brake compo, I'll check out my Gould and King books see what 2 sets were around at that time. If you're modelling Southern really need one or other of either David Gould's or Mike King's books on Southern coaches, Set make up and numbers and changes, and withdrawal dates.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Maunsells-Southern-Region-Steam-Carriage/dp/0853615551/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1460498393&sr=1-4&keywords=david+gould

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bulleids-S-R-steam-passenger-stock/dp/B0006E2YGI/ref=sr_1_50?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1460498450&sr=1-50&keywords=david+gould

Mike King's is getting a bit pricey
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Illustrated-History-Southern-Coaches/dp/0860935701/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1460498575&sr=1-3&keywords=mike+king+southern+coaches

Both authors have also published books on SR passenger rated vans, and Gould has also done SR service stock.
Cheers MIKE
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talisman56

Quote from: Plainline. on April 12, 2016, 09:12:09 PM
Just a quick question. I am thinking of composing a branch line set of two maunsell coaches in the BR era, say late fifties, early sixties. Has anyone got any advice on which of the Dapol coaches would be suitable? Set would probably be hauled by an M7.

The Dapol coaches aren't very suitable for any 2-sets in the 50s/60s as they were mainly composed of the later 'high-window' stock.

There were three in the 1948-created sets what were still around in the late-50s that did have 'low-window' BCKs (23/28/29), the other vehicle was a 'high-window' BTK. Of the 1958-created sets, 101 and 106 had 'low-window' BCKs. The original partner coaches were ex-SECR 10-compartment seconds (the '100-seaters'), but these were replaced by Maunsell Open Seconds.

The Dapol BCKs aren't avalable yet, should be out later in the year.
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Karhedron

#174
As always Talisman has the definitive answer.  :thumbsup:

It is worth noting that you can probably get away with representing sets 23/28/29 using Dapol coaches by running the set with the BTK with the corridor side facing the viewer. The high-windows were on the corridor  side and I believe the low and high-windowed BTKs were pretty much indistinguishable from the compartment  side (please correct me if I am wrong on this  :read: ).

Edited due to brain-fail!  :-[
Quote from: ScottyStitch on September 29, 2015, 11:28:46 AM
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

Bob G

I believe that the high-windows were on the corridor side and low and high-windowed BTKs were pretty much indistinguishable from low windowed ones from the compartment side.  :o
I know what you meant, but you did ask to be corrected - unless of course I am wrong  :no:

Best
Bob

Dorsetmike

'Tother way round, corridor side defined the high or low windows, on the low windows the windows between doors were the same height as the door windows, for high window stock the windows between doors were higher; see the sixth pic down on this page for high windows on corridor side, 2nd and 4th pics for compartment side.

http://www.semgonline.com/coach/maunco03.html

Fifth pic down for a low window corridor side
http://www.semgonline.com/coach/maunco04.html
Cheers MIKE
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Karhedron

Thanks Bob G and Dorsetmike for correcting me. I knew what I meant and then went typed the exact opposite.  :-[

Original post amended to avoid misleading people.  :dighole:
Quote from: ScottyStitch on September 29, 2015, 11:28:46 AM
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

Bob G

No - leave it - we like confusion here  :smiley-laughing:

talisman56

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