older Trix coach

Tank · June 11, 2011, 10:22:25 PM

That's great that you want to make a model of one of the graphics.

I'd suggest Electra Railway Graphics for producing the lower part of the carriage, and painting the rest of it yourself.

Jonathan Clapp · June 12, 2011, 11:06:20 AM

Wikipedia has this nice picture.

the lining between the crimson and cream almost demands a custom decal.
I can do decent lines with trim film but that looks quite challenging.

michael · June 12, 2011, 08:41:13 PM

as if by magic

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINITRIX-N-Gauge-BR-MK1-Brake-Composite-Coach-/200616656898?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2eb5af4002

Jonathan Clapp · June 12, 2011, 09:35:45 PM

Quote from: michael on June 12, 2011, 08:41:13 PM
as if by magic

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINITRIX-N-Gauge-BR-MK1-Brake-Composite-Coach-/200616656898?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2eb5af4002

£10.25 and rising...already too rich for me.

and heres blue ones in the box for £16.50 each plus shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINITRIX-13006-N-SCALE-BR-BLUE-GREY-MK-1-BRAKE-COACH-/370487667231

I got my undecorated one for less than $1 ...

michael · June 12, 2011, 10:06:53 PM

yeah, they all got a bit too expensive in the end.

Jonathan Clapp · June 14, 2011, 02:33:52 PM

I'm fairly pleased with this -

Tank · June 14, 2011, 08:00:21 PM

Looking good!

michael · June 14, 2011, 08:09:08 PM

yeah looks spot on mate

Jonathan Clapp · June 14, 2011, 09:40:48 PM

Thanks for the encouragement.
researching the colors, I was amused to learn that this is known as the 'blood and custard' livery.

The Phoenix paints are obviously a very high quality and accurate line of railway paints.
they are also acetone based enamels. Im afraid Ive had my lifetime's exposure limit to that stuff, modern ventilation notwithstanding, so Id like ask opinions of Railmatch acrylic paints, as they have a full line including 'BR coach custard'
also found this vendor - anyone know them?
http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/Railways/viewProducts.php?SubCatID=12

EtchedPixels · June 14, 2011, 11:49:04 PM

Quote from: Jonathan Clapp on June 14, 2011, 09:40:48 PM
Id like ask opinions of Railmatch acrylic paints, as they have a full line including 'BR coach custard'
also found this vendor - anyone know them?
http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/Railways/viewProducts.php?SubCatID=12

I find them a bit variable. Most are good but a few don't cover well especially the dark reds. Not tried C&C as it really falls out of my eras of interest. I did find I needed to invest in a pot of artists acrylic thinners (useful tip from the 2mm SA list) to get the smoothest results. Never tried spraying them (not an airbrush user) but I know professionals who use them with airbrush.

Best bit is they dry fast, don't honk and you can clean brushes with water and a spot of soap.

Bad bit is they sometimes dry too fast (hence thinners), show brush marks more if not thinned carefully, and if you don't clean the brush properly you'll never get the stuff back off.

poliss · June 15, 2011, 04:35:50 PM

You may find subtle variations in the Crimson and Cream livery depending on which region the coach was painted. Blood & custard might be seen as plum & spilt milk.

Jonathan Clapp · June 15, 2011, 05:22:48 PM

I like the term 'spilt milk' .
In the wikipedia photo, you can see the white oxidation film on the red so familiar to owners of Ford cars or a certain age, I might attempt to simulate that.

EtchedPixels · June 15, 2011, 08:31:14 PM

Quote from: Jonathan Clapp on June 15, 2011, 05:22:48 PM
I like the term 'spilt milk' .

It can be a dangerous description in some ways because the colour of spilt milk today and historically varies because processes have varied. This causes much grief when people start arguing about historical descriptions of some coach colours and milk at the time was not processed the same way !

SymonC · June 15, 2011, 08:34:29 PM

Quote from: EtchedPixels on June 15, 2011, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Jonathan Clapp on June 15, 2011, 05:22:48 PM
I like the term 'spilt milk' .

It can be a dangerous description in some ways because the colour of spilt milk today and historically varies because processes have varied. This causes much grief when people start arguing about historical descriptions of some coach colours and milk at the time was not processed the same way !

I suppose the same could be said of custard and indeed blood!

Jonathan Clapp · June 18, 2011, 05:26:43 AM

Got the spilt milk (varient: spoilt milk) on this evening, and a nice gloss for water slide decals.
the primer gray looks fine as BR coach roof gray. The ends, chassis and bogies will get a coat of "grimey black"

got the decal design finished and printed a sheet of them, only to have the printer run out of color ink in the middle of the page.

ruined a $3 sheet of decal paper.
that all for tonight. hope to have the finished carriage tomorro night about this time.