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Title: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 10, 2017, 04:26:13 PM
The 64Gb SSD I fitted a few months ago is getting near full, I've just bought a 240Gb and rather than go through the "reinstall everything" nausea, thought it might be easier to do a clone job, any recommendations for which clone software to use, had a quick look at Clonezilla is that a fairly simple one to use? Should the authentication still be valid (i.e. "Genuine Windows")

I'll be using the 64Gb one in a netbook, presume a different authentication code will be needed for that one.
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: Malc on September 10, 2017, 04:32:20 PM
You could try Acronis True Image. The free version will clone like for like, but the paid one will expand to fit the size of the destination disk.
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: MJKERR on September 10, 2017, 04:36:15 PM
The main issue is that most installed software is written into the Registry
It would therefore be easier just to copy the entire hard drive
Equally, you could use the Windows Recovery software
A full restore takes about 4 hours
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: mickster04 on September 10, 2017, 11:12:44 PM
That and windows will presumably have system information (how big the disk is etc) written to the disk, I am referring to the HAL (hardware extraction layer?). Windows will know it's been cloned and presumably will throw a bit of a hissy. and if you're just cloning your installed software, the issue with the registry will of course be a problem, whereby windows won't have a record of your installed software and so it'll just be as hard to get it all set up with shortcuts etc than if you installed from fresh.

TLDR; windows isn't easy to migrate installed things. you might be better just re-installing and migrating saved files/user data across
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: Malc on September 11, 2017, 11:34:47 AM
Quote from: mickster04 on September 10, 2017, 11:12:44 PM
That and windows will presumably have system information (how big the disk is etc) written to the disk, I am referring to the HAL (hardware extraction layer?). Windows will know it's been cloned and presumably will throw a bit of a hissy. and if you're just cloning your installed software, the issue with the registry will of course be a problem, whereby windows won't have a record of your installed software and so it'll just be as hard to get it all set up with shortcuts etc than if you installed from fresh.

TLDR; windows isn't easy to migrate installed things. you might be better just re-installing and migrating saved files/user data across
If you use something like Acronis, it writes the new disc size to the relevant places and windows doesn't know it's been cloned. I've upsized discs on laptops and desktops several times. It just takes a while with the larger drives we have now.
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: davidinyork on September 11, 2017, 02:44:25 PM
I don't do it that often, but I've never had any trouble with Windows activation in this sort of situation. Generally used Acronis trueimage.

It will clone all data on the disc, so you won't have a problem with things like missing registry settings - they will all be there. If it doesn't automatically resize the partition to fit the new disc, you can easily do that using the built-in Windows disk management tool.

Only situation where problems are likely is if you change a load of other components at the same time - it may not like that and fail to activate.
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: Steven B on September 12, 2017, 12:35:26 PM
CloneZilla is worth looking at (and free!).

Steven B.
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 12, 2017, 01:54:18 PM
Tried the EaseUS Todo, made a back up OK but not clone (clone option was greyed out on the free version) so after a further Google tried Macrium Reflect free edition, that worked, so this machine now has some space on the SSD; the smaller SSD from this machine got put into a Packard Bell Dot SE netbook, still have to finish that job.
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: Dalek on September 12, 2017, 01:56:17 PM
What version of windows ?
If its windows 10 use Acronis True Image then once you are up and running ok just extend the partition on the new drive drive using disk management within the operating system.

Craig
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 12, 2017, 03:20:33 PM
Win 7 pro 64 bit, Macrium Reflect free did the job fine.
Title: Re: Cloning software (preferably free)
Post by: mickster04 on September 12, 2017, 09:39:04 PM
Excellent news. Mods might wanna lock this thread for future viewers