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Title: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: headstone on February 29, 2024, 06:04:47 PM
any experience of using z gauge track and chassis for "narrow" gauge on an N scale layout,

cant seem to find any "bodies" to fit on a Rokuhan chasis

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: ntpntpntp on February 29, 2024, 06:55:59 PM
I know Peco used to offer some steamer body kits to fit on the Marklin 0-6-0.  Never heard of anything designed for a Rokuhan chassis, but I admit I don't follow N6.5 much.
What style of chassis is the Rokuhan?
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: zwilnik on February 29, 2024, 07:17:18 PM
I used one of the Peco white metal bodies on a Marklin 0-6-0 chassis for mine. The Peco bodies are difficult to get now I suspect, but 3D printing might be an option (although you'd have to work out how to sneak some lead in).
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: ijmsmith on February 29, 2024, 07:55:03 PM
The Rokuhan I have is a 4 axle bogie chassis so might be better under a coach or wagon pushing a dummy loco, or perhaps an autocoach or railbus?
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: Jollybob on February 29, 2024, 08:11:00 PM
There are a couple of options on shapeways. I bought a tram body for Nn3 for the Rockuhan chassis and it just clicked into place and works like a dream. Only thing you have to careful of is that the materials used are brittle.

Here is one option.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/BL759RHE5/nn3-free-lance-box-cab-internal-combustion-loco

Rob.
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: Bartercode on February 29, 2024, 08:22:20 PM
Only one bogie is powered so I think you could stretch a Rokuhan chassis if required. I am looking at using Z gauge chassis to power trams, but may go for diesel or electric loco chassis instead.
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: nick_bastable on February 29, 2024, 08:40:54 PM
(https://content-eu.invisioncic.com/y320084/monthly_2022_06/1567578114_20220616_0021161.jpg.9455a95738856af004ab73d266f429dc.jpg)

Rokuhan chassis  under a slightly widened Rye and Camber coach dummy loco along for the ride
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: headstone on March 01, 2024, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on February 29, 2024, 06:55:59 PMI know Peco used to offer some steamer body kits to fit on the Marklin 0-6-0.  Never heard of anything designed for a Rokuhan chassis, but I admit I don't follow N6.5 much.
What style of chassis is the Rokuhan?
its thishttps://www.osbornsmodels.com/rokuhan-sa001-1-motorised-chassis-46797-p.asp

i was thinking it would be a steam tram or a ruston type shunter...

my search for marklin drew a blank so any further help or steer there would be appreciated,
thanks for the considered reply.
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: headstone on March 01, 2024, 10:58:42 AM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on February 29, 2024, 06:55:59 PMI know Peco used to offer some steamer body kits to fit on the Marklin 0-6-0.  Never heard of anything designed for a Rokuhan chassis, but I admit I don't follow N6.5 much.
What style of chassis is the Rokuhan?

this onehttps://www.osbornsmodels.com/rokuhan-sa001-1-motorised-chassis-46797-p.asp

thanks for the reply
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: headstone on March 01, 2024, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: nick_bastable on February 29, 2024, 08:40:54 PM(https://content-eu.invisioncic.com/y320084/monthly_2022_06/1567578114_20220616_0021161.jpg.9455a95738856af004ab73d266f429dc.jpg)

Rokuhan chassis  under a slightly widened Rye and Camber coach dummy loco along for the ride

thats food for thought thanks
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: headstone on March 01, 2024, 11:00:56 AM
Quote from: Jollybob on February 29, 2024, 08:11:00 PMThere are a couple of options on shapeways. I bought a tram body for Nn3 for the Rockuhan chassis and it just clicked into place and works like a dream. Only thing you have to careful of is that the materials used are brittle.

Here is one option.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/BL759RHE5/nn3-free-lance-box-cab-internal-combustion-loco

Rob.

thanks for the steer.
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: headstone on March 01, 2024, 11:08:25 AM
Thanks All for the helpful and considered replys,
it nice that a thread didn't descend into chaos and arguments

i found some amazing narrow gauge work on YT

https://www.youtube.com/@Schmuck804

regards

Mark
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: stevewalker on March 02, 2024, 02:45:49 PM
I used the Peco body on a Marklin chassis and added a couple of GF Shredded Wheat coaches, each with everything below the floor cut away and replaced with two halves of a bogie chassis from a Z-gauge tanker.


Excuse the finger, the track was dirty, as I was just building that section.
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: nick_bastable on March 02, 2024, 07:04:51 PM


Rokuhan chassis  under a slightly widened Rye and Camber coach dummy loco along for the ride
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thats food for thought thanks
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beware the Rokuhan chassis need some taming with a resistor
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: headstone on March 06, 2024, 12:32:56 PM
Quote from: nick_bastable on March 02, 2024, 07:04:51 PMRokuhan chassis  under a slightly widened Rye and Camber coach dummy loco along for the ride

thats food for thought thanks
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beware the Rokuhan chassis need some taming with a resistor
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Thanks i had heard that, is it possible to put a resistor in the DC wiring,
or will i have to fettle with the chasis?
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: stevewalker on March 06, 2024, 12:56:46 PM
I assume that the resistor is because the Rokuhan motors are rated for a lower voltage. If so, it would make more sense to buy/build a controller with the correct voltage, dedicated to the narrow-gauge line.
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: ntpntpntp on March 06, 2024, 01:04:01 PM
Insert the resistor anywhere you can between pickups and motor.  Personally I prefer to use a chain of inverse-parallel diodes to introduce a voltage drop as it's then independent of the current draw, but if you need a significant drop it takes more room in the chassis.

This is what I do to tame Tomytec and Kato chassis and match them better with other brands running on my DC automated shuttle.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/medium_5885-150319203133.gif) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=74990)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/medium_5885-010319132522.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=74588)
Title: Re: Narrow Gauge on Nscale layouts
Post by: nick_bastable on April 16, 2024, 02:41:33 PM
Quote from: headstone on March 06, 2024, 12:32:56 PM
Quote from: nick_bastable on March 02, 2024, 07:04:51 PMRokuhan chassis  under a slightly widened Rye and Camber coach dummy loco along for the ride

thats food for thought thanks

motor is conected by two wires so easy to add resistors or diodes although can be tight for space

beware the Rokuhan chassis need some taming with a resistor
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Thanks i had heard that, is it possible to put a resistor in the DC wiring,
or will i have to fettle with the chasis?
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