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Title: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on August 22, 2015, 12:07:54 PM
Hi Guys I have just bought some town scene sheets of paper building that need to be cut out using a scapel  which is not a very good idea for me due to eyesight problems and limited hand movement I feel sure I can get them laser cut out but where from I cant think where I saw it or dose somebody on here have laser cutter I can PAY them to do it any help or advice more than grateful.mike
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: MikeDunn on August 22, 2015, 02:30:58 PM
Quote from: fatso on August 22, 2015, 12:07:54 PM
I have just bought some town scene sheets of paper building that need to be cut out using a scapula  which is not a very good idea
I'll say it's not a good idea !!!  :o :o :o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapula (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapula)

I'd try a scalpel myself ...  :confused1:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: Sprintex on August 22, 2015, 02:53:17 PM
That's taking the phrase "put your shoulder into it" far too literally :laugh:


Paul
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on August 22, 2015, 03:07:59 PM
To all concerned please except my sincere apologies  for using the wrong words in posting it was very unfair of me to give my secretary  a day off I will do my very best for this not to happen again. Now that's SACARMS.
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on August 31, 2015, 05:32:35 PM
Unfortunately, unless you can supply the digital file that the original kit was created with, then a laser will be of no use to you.

Laser cutters require an original digital file to follow to guide the laser head over the material you want cutting.  Someone would have to re-draw all the parts of your kit into a program and then ensure that your uncut card kit is exactly located on the cutting bed for the laser to follow the program.

The opportunities for an almighty balls-up are legion..................

Sorry...
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on August 31, 2015, 05:52:32 PM
 :'( Looks like the old fashion way cut via scalpel and plenty of plaster for cuts on fingers.mike
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on August 31, 2015, 06:17:58 PM
http://www.freestonemodel.co.uk/page7.htm (http://www.freestonemodel.co.uk/page7.htm)  this is what I wanted to get laser cut but sadly I cant  :(
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: Richard G Dallimore on August 31, 2015, 06:24:14 PM
It may be possible as I have a laser cutter but it will be expensive as I will have to draw the cutting file. Ideally test cut it and hopefully get the alignment right, it would be an interesting challenge. Are you at TINGS if so ask for me on the DCC Supplies stand and bring along the paper buildings you want cutting.
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on August 31, 2015, 06:27:50 PM
Best of luck with that Richard!!!

I would be very interested to see if you can do it.  I use a laser cutter for producing the superstructures of my R/C boat kits, but I design the digital files myself and the laser just has to cut the parts out of plain white styrene sheet.

Keep us posted yeah?
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: Richard G Dallimore on August 31, 2015, 08:50:46 PM
I have put more thought into this and advised Mike that it will not be cost effective.

I have suggested that he finds someone or someones to help him locally how may be willing to cut them out by hand for him.

Sorry folks but it would take quite a a lot of time to trace off the outline on to AutoCAD and then I would have to try and get perfect alignment between the sheet, the cutter and the drawing or the laser would be cutting off detail instead.
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on August 31, 2015, 09:16:44 PM
Might try bottle of vodka  then let myself loose with scalpel  .mike
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on August 31, 2015, 09:32:14 PM
Mike - pop up a link to what you have bought please?

I have built quite a few paper and card models in my time.  Lets have a look at the complexity of what you have - I am sure I can wave a knife over the sheets and let you have them back to assemble yourself.

Carl
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on August 31, 2015, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: carlmt on August 31, 2015, 09:32:14 PM
Mike - pop up a link to what you have bought please?

I have built quite a few paper and card models in my time.  Lets have a look at the complexity of what you have - I am sure I can wave a knife over the sheets and let you have them back to assemble yourself.

Carl

Hi I bought all the sheets apart from the country scenes went little nuts lol
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on August 31, 2015, 09:50:48 PM
Here are a couple of card models I have made in the past...

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/card%20models/100-0069_IMG_zps8zizqgzz.jpg)

Ok - it is not train related, but was very enjoyable to build and demonstrate well what can be done with just a knife, glue and card  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on August 31, 2015, 09:51:25 PM
(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/card%20models/DSCF0698_zpswwnoy0r2.jpg)
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on August 31, 2015, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: carlmt on August 31, 2015, 09:51:25 PM
(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/card%20models/DSCF0698_zpswwnoy0r2.jpg)


Well I am totally blown away outstanding skills.mike
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: DELETED on September 02, 2015, 12:12:26 AM
Quote from: carlmt on August 31, 2015, 05:32:35 PM
Unfortunately, unless you can supply the digital file that the original kit was created with, then a laser will be of no use to you.

Laser cutters require an original digital file to follow to guide the laser head over the material you want cutting.  Someone would have to re-draw all the parts of your kit into a program and then ensure that your uncut card kit is exactly located on the cutting bed for the laser to follow the program.

The opportunities for an almighty balls-up are legion..................

Sorry...

That's a shame.  A few years ago I got £8,000's worth of table-top rotary cutter and mini-CNC mill going for my workplace which nobody could work-out.  All the instructions we had were for the laser cutter, not the rotary version.  I got the CNC cutter working fine, it would have been SO MUCH easier though if it were a laser cutter!!!!!!!  The rigmarole of importing files and tracing over cut paths a-la CAD-CAM would have been so much easier if it were laser and able to convert input images.  But I make that statement not having a laser cutter!
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on September 03, 2015, 09:02:41 PM
One down..........7 sheets to go!!!!

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150903_20_44_46_Pro_zps9osgdbyb.jpg)

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on September 03, 2015, 09:26:59 PM
Quote from: carlmt on September 03, 2015, 09:02:41 PM
One down..........7 sheets to go!!!!

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150903_20_44_46_Pro_zps9osgdbyb.jpg)

:thumbsup:

I would chopped the chimneys pots by now and some be careful you don't end up with eyesight like master
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on September 03, 2015, 10:50:14 PM
Sheets 2 and 3!!!!  :goggleeyes:

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150903_22_00_58_Pro_zpsb2xyrf0x.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150903_22_38_06_Pro_zpsvejoqmo2.jpg)

Mike - I am adding any notes etc that was originally on the 'waste' around the buildings, to the back of the relevant parts.

That's me done for the evening........back on it tomorrow  :beers:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on September 04, 2015, 02:39:06 AM
Quote from: carlmt on September 03, 2015, 10:50:14 PM
Sheets 2 and 3!!!!  :goggleeyes:

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150903_22_00_58_Pro_zpsb2xyrf0x.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150903_22_38_06_Pro_zpsvejoqmo2.jpg)

Mike - I am adding any notes etc that was originally on the 'waste' around the buildings, to the back of the relevant parts.

That's me done for the evening........back on it tomorrow  :beers:

The blades I sent up super quick just for you lol Carl with sincere and upmost gratitude  I Say thank you
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: mr bachmann on September 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
careful or he'll want them fitted with led's  :D

carlmt is doing a fine job Mike , looking forward to see the finished results

alan
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on September 04, 2015, 04:02:12 PM
Quote from: mr bachmann on September 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
careful or he'll want them fitted with led's  :D

carlmt is doing a fine job Mike , looking forward to see the finished results

alan

Alan thank you for offering to fit the leds I know you have skills I seen your buffer stops LOL
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on September 04, 2015, 04:38:45 PM
 :hmmm: Here's a thought can I be trusted with a nice new foam board cutter .mike
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on September 04, 2015, 10:52:42 PM
Two more done.........3 left to go   :bounce:

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150904_21_39_04_Pro_zpsdmb9zrc8.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150904_22_41_55_Pro_zpsxo4faoqd.jpg)

Most likely be back in the post to you on Monday Mike!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on September 05, 2015, 01:19:56 AM
Quote from: carlmt on September 04, 2015, 10:52:42 PM
Two more done.........3 left to go   :bounce:

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150904_21_39_04_Pro_zpsdmb9zrc8.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150904_22_41_55_Pro_zpsxo4faoqd.jpg)

Most likely be back in the post to you on Monday Mike!!  :thumbsup:

Truly outstanding I would have been on sheet 1 still and missing finger and chimney's  once weathered  and clear varnished should look  real good :bounce: :beers: :thankyousign: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on September 05, 2015, 06:54:26 PM
All done!!!

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_14_15_31_Pro_zpsn041bymd.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_16_19_31_Pro_zpsjpxnhesc.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_17_47_48_Pro_zpsso6j6efi.jpg)

Will be in the post to you on Monday Mike  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on September 05, 2015, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: carlmt on September 05, 2015, 06:54:26 PM
All done!!!

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_14_15_31_Pro_zpsn041bymd.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_16_19_31_Pro_zpsjpxnhesc.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_17_47_48_Pro_zpsso6j6efi.jpg)

WOW that is outstanding  workmanship I hope I can do all your hard work justice when they get mounted onto foam board and arrange as a backdrop  I have  got plenty of choice now thank you for all you help on this and time I am  very grateful for everything  you have done.mike

Will be in the post to you on Monday Mike  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: carlmt on September 05, 2015, 08:22:52 PM
No worries Mike - only too glad to help out.

Found it quite therapeutic actually..... Although I doubt I would want to do it for a living!  ;D

Lets see some shots when you get it all together on the layout  :wave:

Carl :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on September 06, 2015, 02:59:08 PM
Hi all I hope to make the dockside scene something real nice that looks more real than paper a nice pontoon or quayside wall with containers crates and other bits that might have just been unloaded off the hull of a ship maybe a few lowrelife buildings warehouses I am very much OPEN to suggestion please.mike
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: Richard G Dallimore on September 06, 2015, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: carlmt on September 05, 2015, 06:54:26 PM
All done!!!

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_14_15_31_Pro_zpsn041bymd.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_16_19_31_Pro_zpsjpxnhesc.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_17_47_48_Pro_zpsso6j6efi.jpg)

Will be in the post to you on Monday Mike  :thumbsup:

Well done I certainly could not have got it done that quick with the laser cutter, thank you for stepping in.
Title: Re: Paper laser cutting?
Post by: fatso on September 06, 2015, 06:06:37 PM
Quote from: Formerly NtasticShop on September 06, 2015, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: carlmt on September 05, 2015, 06:54:26 PM
All done!!!

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_14_15_31_Pro_zpsn041bymd.jpg)

(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_16_19_31_Pro_zpsjpxnhesc.jpg)



(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/carlmtflo/MODEL%20RAILWAY/WP_20150905_17_47_48_Pro_zpsso6j6efi.jpg)

Will be in the post to you on Monday Mike  :thumbsup:

Well done I certainly could not have got it done that quick with the laser cutter, thank you for stepping in.

I am totally blown away at Carls workmanship and skills with a scalpel if only I had 10%i be a happy bunny  words cant not express my sincere gratitude.mike