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Title: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Newportnobby on September 08, 2011, 10:26:57 PM
I am really starting to think this publication should be renamed as either there is nothing happening in the N gauge world or there are just no layouts anyone wants to feature. It's packed with layouts but, although I haven't read it properly yet, just a feature on making trees and a review of the Farish 101.
Even the supplement gives only a passing mention to N plus a page at the very end. Not good enough :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: davieb on September 08, 2011, 10:50:46 PM
hi newportnobby  :wave:

i've only one thing to add to that!

the october hornby mag has even less n gauge content  :thumbsdown:

dave
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 08, 2011, 10:56:31 PM
N Gauge Society one has plenty of N gauge material. I don't know why people buy a lot of the others to be honest !
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: davieb on September 08, 2011, 11:10:20 PM
hi ep

the only reason i get them is to look at what is going on in the railway modelling world
and to get some ideas for my own layout  ::)

(and its unavoidable when well meaning relatives buy you a subscription for christmas)

dave
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Dock Shunter on September 08, 2011, 11:14:11 PM
Luckily the Modeller and Hornby mags are not wrapped in a plastic cover like most mags seem to be these days so i usually have a flick through them in WH Sm@%&.....unless there is something N Gauge worth
reading then i will spend my pennies.......
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Fratton on September 09, 2011, 12:52:13 AM
The trees article was good, I've got half the stuff to make some so gonna get the rest and give it a bash,,,,,,,,,,, I do agree sometimes the big mags forget us N gaugers but storage there's plenty of inspiration in them,,,,,,
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Mustermark on September 09, 2011, 01:26:12 AM
I only bother with Model Rail.  Most of the content is OO :-X  but there is a decent amount of N gauge (layouts and reviews) and useful general modelling articles too.

I think the N Gauge Soc and N'spirations do a good job of filling the gap, and I like getting those because I know it's all N gauge!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: longbridge on September 09, 2011, 05:50:46 AM
I gave the magazines covering British layouts away some time ago as they only seem to feature OO Gauge.

I now buy Continental Modeller because I am interested in trains worldwide and also the American Model Railroader mag which features some pretty good projects.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: ToothFairy on September 09, 2011, 06:57:42 AM
NGS Journal and N'spirations are really all I need for scale-specific stuff, but RM still gives me a few useful ideas. Some stuff written about other scales can still have relevance to N.

But I wouldn't splash out on more than one non-N magazine in any one month.

- Michael
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: H on September 09, 2011, 07:46:28 AM
I thought that the October 'Railway Modeller' was rather good and that the new issue of 'Model Rail' was the one that was significantly under par (especially after the last two very good issues). I can't comment about 'Hornby' mag as I find that generally the worst of the five (for my specific interests) and I rarely purchase it but it does rather set its stall out to be OO transition era concentric. So it seems that none of the big commercial mags carried a lot of N gauge this time around but I accept that you can find inspiration and interest in other gauges/scales. Only a fool would dismiss them out of hand as there is always something to be learnt from checking out other scales/eras/regions layouts and articles.

However there are two issues regading content that are often trotted out in repsonse to comment about lack of various interests. Firstly, they can only publish what they are supplied with; so if you want to see something specific it's worth writing and submitting it, and encouraging others to do likewise by example. Secondly I guess that commercial editors are always looking to strike the 'right' balance to satisfy all railway modellers to maximise sales. Currently it's usually quoted that N gauge forms about 15% percent of the British model railway market so I wouldn't expect content to be much more than that. And that only works out at about only a dozen pages of the 80 or so editorial (article and features but not adverts) pages.

H.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2011, 08:17:10 AM
I agree with everything everyone has said, and buy RM like most N gaugers to get ideas that are transferable and also for the adverts/exhibition dates.
The NGS bi monthly is far superior because it is purely for us Nutters. I would only take issue with H on the supplement about main line trains in restricted spaces as this was surely where N gauge would come to the fore. Based on the N - OO page ratio, N gauge only got about 7% coverage. :(
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: michael on September 09, 2011, 08:25:28 AM
Quote from: Mustermark on September 09, 2011, 01:26:12 AM
I only bother with Model Rail.  Most of the content is OO :-X  but there is a decent amount of N gauge (layouts and reviews) and useful general modelling articles too.

I think the N Gauge Soc and N'spirations do a good job of filling the gap, and I like getting those because I know it's all N gauge!!! :thumbsup:

I get model rail as well which usually is ok, although this month the only n gauge bit is half a page of 101 review!
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: H on September 09, 2011, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 09, 2011, 08:17:10 AMI would only take issue with H on the supplement about main line trains in restricted spaces as this was surely where N gauge would come to the fore.

You'd think so and I'd agree, but the supplement is basically one article written by one person who is probably an OO gauge enthusiast and therefore it's written from a OO viewpoint (or certainly trying to appeal to the 80% majority) and bound to major on OO. If you or I were to write such a supplement/article it would no doubt be from our N gauge experience and there would only be a passing mention of OO, even if it was an non-scale/gauge specific subject and meant to appeal to all. Therefore, as I've already said, the thing to do is to write and submit something that is more N gauge based or biased.

H.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: moogle on September 09, 2011, 09:19:47 AM
Most of them have little or no N gauge as others have said.  :( Often its just a review of a model too.  :thumbsdown:
Model Rail often has the most between the lot. I usually look through them in Smiths and buy if there's anything interesting.
Its a shame BRM and others are wrapped in plastic but it's their loss not mine.
Mind you, haven't browsed any since May and last bought one in January!
It's a good job I get the NGS journal.  :smiley-laughing:

In Germany they have a bi-monthly mag on newstands: http://www.alba-publikation.de/oxid.php/sid/x/shp/oxbaseshop/cl/alist/cnid/130 (http://www.alba-publikation.de/oxid.php/sid/x/shp/oxbaseshop/cl/alist/cnid/130)
Lucky so and so's!
I did get a copy whilst there last year and it's  :thumbsup:, even though I don't know any German!
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2011, 09:28:19 AM
Quote from: H on September 09, 2011, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 09, 2011, 08:17:10 AMI would only take issue with H on the supplement about main line trains in restricted spaces as this was surely where N gauge would come to the fore.

You'd think so and I'd agree, but the supplement is basically one article written by one person who is probably an OO gauge enthusiast and therefore it's written from a OO viewpoint (or certainly trying to appeal to the 80% majority) and bound to major on OO. If you or I were to write such a supplement/article it would no doubt be from our N gauge experience and there would only be a passing mention of OO, even if it was an non-scale/gauge specific subject and meant to appeal to all. Therefore, as I've already said, the thing to do is to write and submit something that is more N gauge based or biased.

H.
Can't fault your logic, H. Sadly I have neither the knowledge or expertise to create an article. I'm just hoping my layout planning/building doesn't outlast me, and it would never feature anywhere due to me running pretty much what I want rather than an exhibition level layout.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: longbridge on September 09, 2011, 12:06:46 PM
I gave up writing articles for newspapers etc, for quite some time when I worked in the HiFi trade I wrote a HiFi section for a TV and Radio guide but after the editor decided to chop and change things around a few times it became quite clear to me that it made no sense at all so I pulled the plug  (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/russian_roulette.gif)
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: H on September 09, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
I can't say that I've found heavy handed editing to be a problem with articles submitted in the model railway press. I have had quite a few published in Railway Modeller, BRM, Model Rail, Rail Express Modeller, the NGS Journal and even once in the Hornby mag over the years and they've not been hacked out of recognition. But I guess it depends on the standard of writing and knowledge of the editor.

However, these days I tend not to contribute to the commercial press, preferring to write for my own publications where I also carry out the editing.  ;D

H.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: painbrook on September 09, 2011, 01:25:50 PM
When did the 'railway modeller' October edition go on  sale ? . Cheers john .
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2011, 01:28:12 PM
Quote from: painbrook on September 09, 2011, 01:25:50 PM
When did the 'railway modeller' October edition go on  sale ? . Cheers john .

It's always on sale the 2nd Thursday of the month e.g. this month it was in on 8th - in October it will be 13th etc etc
My local Te**o always has it the correct day.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on September 09, 2011, 01:59:02 PM
Quote from: H on September 09, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
I can't say that I've found heavy handed editing to be a problem with articles submitted in the model railway press. I have had quite a few published in Railway Modeller, BRM, Model Rail, Rail Express Modeller, the NGS Journal and even once in the Hornby mag over the years and they've not been hacked out of recognition. But I guess it depends on the standard of writing and knowledge of the editor.


Likewise...I have had a couple of articles published in Continental Modeller with no changes of any consequence to the original script I submitted.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Portpatrick on September 09, 2011, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on September 09, 2011, 01:26:12 AM
I only bother with Model Rail.  Most of the content is OO :-X  but there is a decent amount of N gauge (layouts and reviews) and useful general modelling articles too.

I think the N Gauge Soc and N'spirations do a good job of filling the gap, and I like getting those because I know it's all N gauge!!! :thumbsup:

yes this has been my only regular for 10 years.  I usually find a good mix of articles.  I do scan others sometimes in case there is anything of note - usually either N and/or Scottish!  However my colleagues at my Model railway Club had already received their October editions last night.  I am still waiting.  either MR have slipped up or Royal Mail have.

We have not had a delivery since last Saturday and the Watford office is known to be unreliable.  I wonder which.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Fratton on September 09, 2011, 03:53:04 PM
inspired by octobers railway modeller i skipped down to squires tools and craft shop (plug for good service) and picked up some spray adhesive and brown spray paint,,

with these results

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4867/img0296i.jpg)

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6185/img0300xc.jpg)

the first of many trees that will be appearing im sure, i pretty much knew how to do it but the given method sealed it for me and it trully does take minutes to knock up realistic looking trees (well compared to some of the off the shelve ones ive looked at)

only downside,,,, spray adhesive is expensive but i should be able to make a fair few trees from the can i bought,,,,
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: H on September 09, 2011, 03:58:16 PM
Good grief, that was rapid work since getting the mag, but looking very good.

BTW you can get spray mount adhesive in Smiths when you pick up the mag and an aerosol of brown paint from Halfords.

H.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Fratton on September 09, 2011, 04:05:18 PM
i thought smiths would but didnt want to venture all the way into the centre of Bognoria,,,, the spray is railmatch cause i needed it anyway, i am going to get some paint from halfords next week, the trunk i had a load of craft wire in the drawer that didnt have a pourpose,,,

the only problem ive had is that the original instructions call for string to be used, i couldnt get any but bought a spindle of miniature ship ringing rope which worked just as well,
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Bikeracer on September 09, 2011, 08:13:55 PM
Judging by the small size of the fonts used for some advertisers maybe they should include a voucher for an eye test redeemable at any optician. ;D

Allan
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2011, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on September 09, 2011, 08:13:55 PM
Judging by the small size of the fonts used for some advertisers maybe they should include a voucher for an eye test redeemable at any optician. ;D

Allan

As someone optically challenged, I totally agree
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Bealman on September 17, 2011, 09:51:04 AM
I too have sumitted articles to Railway Modeller over the years about my Beal & Castle Eden railway. These were during the mid nineties, the last one being May 97. I do not recall much heavy handed editing. My first copy of the magazine is April 57 so I remain a loyal reader. Hopefully there will be an article on my layout in the future as i have begun restoration after an almost 15 year hiatus.
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: Newportnobby on September 17, 2011, 04:27:03 PM
Good luck with being published again - keep us in touch please :thumbsup:
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: painbrook on September 25, 2011, 06:17:12 PM
Late with a reply , I could'nt find two recent copies that had next to nothing N gauge , I've bought RM in the past because I've always found that it had something for 'everyone' and about the only mag that frequently had 009 narrow gauge items . Has for the n gauge trees  :o that must line up with the n gauge blue skies, clouds, shrubs and grass etc, seriously guys I'm not knocking anyone. What I did see was an advert for/by ' http://www.mylocosound.com/ . Question has anyone had experience with their products . Cheers John .
Title: Re: October Railway Modeller
Post by: jonclox on September 26, 2011, 11:23:36 AM
I'm afraid that I havn`t renewed my subscription to it this July. I found that it was 'much of a muchness' most months so just gave up getting it every month and now just intend to buy when I see it  has something I could do with reading