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Author Topic: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's  (Read 1291 times)

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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2022, 07:05:01 PM »
I had an e-mail yesterday and spoke to Kernow, who took payment for my pre-order of the GBRf Class 50's. They expected them to be delivered to them today (Friday 6th). But I guess it will take a day or two for the website to get updated if this is the case.

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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2022, 09:33:56 PM »
That's exciting. And the credit card takes another hammering!  :doh:

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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2022, 11:35:46 PM »
I am purchasing one through The Fifty Fund.

I was recently advised that they would be available sometime in May.

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GE

It looks like I ordered and paid for 50 033 from the Fifty Fund in July last year. If that's the case then I may have to order 50 046 from Rails. Should look good next to 50 037, 50 033 (Farish version), 50 043, 50 040, 50 037, 50 049 and 50 024 which I already have. I seem to have 2x 50 017 bodies in Maroon too for some reason  :doh:

EDIT: 21 minutes later 50 046 has also been ordered now  :D
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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2022, 12:10:36 PM »
I found them in stock at Kernow this morning and ordered some in revised NSE livery.
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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2022, 11:42:06 PM »
I received mine yesterday and ran them on the Model Railway Club test tracks this evening:

Dapol Class 50 by James Petts, on Flickr

Dapol Class 50 by James Petts, on Flickr

Unlike the first batch, they came without the detail pipes fitted: these were all loose in an accompanying bag. I am told that this is because some models in the first batch had trouble going around very tight curves because of the pipes, although I had no trouble on my layout.

One of the two that I bought had a problem in that one of the bogies fell apart when I took it out of the box. However, once I had found all the wheels and clipped the bogie frame back on again, and then turned the wheels around to face the correct direction, it seemed to run without problems, so it must simply have been a loose clip.

These will be renumbered to 50024 "Vanguard":

50024 Reading by Carl Looker, on Flickr

and 50050 "Fearless":

50050 Oxford by Carl Looker, on Flickr
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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2022, 02:37:24 AM »
Hows the blue alongside a Farish mk2? Is it the darker blue, it looks like a bit of a mix of the original and the darker. I vaguely recall discussion that 50018 never wore the darker blue, but entirely possible Im making that up.

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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2022, 12:03:56 PM »
Hows the blue alongside a Farish mk2? Is it the darker blue, it looks like a bit of a mix of the original and the darker. I vaguely recall discussion that 50018 never wore the darker blue, but entirely possible Im making that up.

I have not yet compared this with any other colours, but the colouring in a mobile telephone picture in somewhat marginal lighting can be a little misleading.
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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2022, 01:20:34 AM »
Some colour comparisons as requested. First of all, a comparison between the first and second batch NSE colours:

Dapol class 50 by James Petts, on Flickr

Dapol class 50 by James Petts, on Flickr

The second batch colour seems less bright and saturated, and closer to the actual NSE colour. However, it is still intended to represent the earlier, lighter shade of NSE blue, as was carried by 50018 "Resolution":

50018 Gillingham by Carl Looker, on Flickr

We can see this by comparing it to the Farish mk. 1 carriage in NSE livery, which represents this earlier, lighter shade:

Dapol class 50 by James Petts, on Flickr

By contrast, the colour matches less well with the Farish mk. 2A, representing the later, darker colour:

Dapol class 50 by James Petts, on Flickr
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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2022, 11:29:24 PM »
Which class 50s had the earlier NSE light blue with the later style of stripes, without the upsweep, like 50018 in the Dapol model. Does anybody know?

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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2022, 11:59:26 PM »
Which class 50s had the earlier NSE light blue with the later style of stripes, without the upsweep, like 50018 in the Dapol model. Does anybody know?

Cheers

Tom.

I believe that at least the following (and perhaps others) had them as of mid-1989:

50024 "Vanguard"
50030 "Repulse"
50028 "Tiger"
50048 "Dauntless"
50050 "Fearless"

Probably also some others - a good way to check is to search Flickr for the locomotive number (without a space) and the year (the two numbers being separated by a space).
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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2022, 12:12:19 AM »
Thanks James. I saw 50030 in 1989 so maybe thats the one for me! Id like to model 50023 Howe but it may only have had the darker blue.

Cheers

Tom.

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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2022, 12:15:13 AM »
Thanks James. I saw 50030 in 1989 so maybe thats the one for me! Id like to model 50023 Howe but it may only have had the darker blue.

Cheers

Tom.

I believe that 50023 "Howe" went straight from original NSE livery:

50023 Bristol by Carl Looker, on Flickr

into revised NSE livery with dark blue:

50023 passes Cholsey on 18 August 1989 by 1V44 (Chris Morrison), on Flickr

This transition appears to have occurred during 1989.
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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2022, 01:08:14 AM »
Thanks. Thats how I remember it. What a great coaching stock rake in the second photo. Mk2c BFK, Mk1 RB(R), 2e TSO, 2c TSO, 2d TSO, 2e TSO, ?2e FO, 2d BFK. Such a lot of coaching stock variety all in one train; nothing unusual back in 1989. Those Mk2c TSO in blue/grey were truly manky coaches to travel in by 1989 - overlooked from any refurbishment programme and earmarked for early withdrawal as they were the last non-air conditioning Mk2s used by InterCity.

Sorry about the digression from Dapol class 50s.

Cheers

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Re: Dapol 2nd batch class 50's
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2022, 04:42:43 PM »
I would be interested to see the final version of 50149, if anyone has received one yet.

 

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