Oxford Diecast - 2013 Toyfair announcements

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justintime

Wouldn't 1:160 look odd against 1:148 or is the difference insignificant?

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woodbury22uk

Quote from: justintime on February 07, 2013, 01:10:13 PM
Wouldn't 1:160 look odd against 1:148 or is the difference insignificant?

A 15 foot long car is 28.58mm long in 1/160 scale and  30.89mm long in 1/148 scale. The difference is less than the typical jump a passenger needs to make between two coaches in their as delivered condition.

I'd love to see a comprehensive range of British operated cars, light vans, rigid trucks etc. in 1/148 scale. But crying in my pram will not make that happen. From my own experience a co-ordinated approach to a manufacturer with supporting documentation works. We have been bleating about a generalised need for 1970 - 1990 cars for years and the crying has not been heard. If there is anyone who would like to change that then an adult approach which would support a business case is likely to have a better result. At 1/148 scale we operate in a unique environment so it is much harder to make a case than for 1/160 scale, or even 1/150 scale. But the range of modern cars in those scales with a larger following is already quite small. Can all the manufacturers be wrong? if so they will need some convincing to change their plans. It is interesting that Oxford Diecast's older cars appear on quite a number of continental N layouts I have seen recently.

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Quote from: justintime on February 07, 2013, 01:10:13 PM
Wouldn't 1:160 look odd against 1:148 or is the difference insignificant?

My guess is you would get away with a vehicle placed on a road on its own.

The difference is very noticable when you have a 1:160 loco next to a 1:148 loco, it is like little and large  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John.

H

Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 07, 2013, 01:28:25 PM

A 15 foot long car is 28.58mm long in 1/160 scale and  30.89mm long in 1/148 scale. The difference is less than the typical jump a passenger needs to make between two coaches in their as delivered condition.


That is more than a scale foot out. It's the wrong scale and is too small, and looks silly up against correctly 1:148 scaled equivalent saloon cars.

Why should we have to put up with models in incorrect scales. If people want things produced to 1:148 why deny them that desire.

Also I can see no evidence of anyone crying in their pram - claiming or suggesting that people who have posted are do such things is rather offensive. But I do agree that a co-ordinated professional busines case and approach would be best.

H.

woodbury22uk

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Quote from: H on February 07, 2013, 01:54:35 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 07, 2013, 01:28:25 PM

A 15 foot long car is 28.58mm long in 1/160 scale and  30.89mm long in 1/148 scale. The difference is less than the typical jump a passenger needs to make between two coaches in their as delivered condition.


That is more than a scale foot out. It's the wrong scale and is too small, and looks silly up against correctly 1:148 scaled equivalent saloon cars.

Why should we have to put up with models in incorrect scales. If people want things produced to 1:148 why deny them that desire.

Also I can see no evidence of anyone crying in their pram - claiming or suggesting that people who have posted are do such things is rather offensive. But I do agree that a co-ordinated professional busines case and approach would be best.

H.

The point is H that there are few if any 1/148 scale cars of quality to put them against.

I am sorry if the expression "crying" caused offence. Maybe I could have misinterpreted the anger and frustration smileys in some of the earlier posts. But please note I did say "crying in my pram". And I am not offended.

Glad you support the business case approach anyway, which was really the thrust of my post.

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justintime

I think you are being a bit harsh with your comments Mike.  Neal just made a suggestion and I agreed that we could do with more cars etc from the 60's and 70's.  No body mentioned bleating on, chucking their toys out of the pram or bombarding Oxford with nonsense emails. :no:  It was just an innocent comment on a friendly forum :thumbsup:

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woodbury22uk

Quote from: justintime on February 07, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
I think you are being a bit harsh with your comments Mike.  Neal just made a suggestion and I agreed that we could do with more cars etc from the 60's and 70's.  No body mentioned bleating on, chucking their toys out of the pram or bombarding Oxford with nonsense emails. :no:  It was just an innocent comment on a friendly forum :thumbsup:

:thankyousign: Understood. Seems we are all on the same page then.   :claphappy:

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Personally I just thought Mike was referring to himself, not the forum at large :no:


I would guess that 1/160 vehicles could possible be used at the rear of the layout to promote distance but I certainly would not put them close to 1/148 scale ones

H

Quote from: newportnobby on February 07, 2013, 06:45:26 PM

I would guess that 1/160 vehicles could possible be used at the rear of the layout to promote distance


That won't work unless everything around that car is also to the smaller 1:160 scale including the road, the street furniture, other vehicles, the buildings behind, any trains that pass close by, and so on.

H.

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Quote from: H on February 07, 2013, 06:52:41 PM
That won't work unless everything around that car is also to the smaller 1:160 scale including the road, the street furniture, other vehicles, the buildings behind, any trains that pass close by, and so on.

Or if anything close but in front of the 1:160 area is separated by a fence or similar such that you cannot see a contiguous ground level. With care that causes your eyes to simply fill in the distance and assume they are not as close as is the case

(It's the same reason that putting a fence a few mm in front of scaled down backscene buildings gives the impression of depth providing you don't look too hard)

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New Oxford Diecast cars etc which I've seen advertised this week .......2 cv , old style mini , VW beetle (old style) , VW campervan variants & VW pickup . Ric

justintime

Quote from: Bigric on February 08, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
New Oxford Diecast cars etc which I've seen advertised this week .......2 cv , old style mini , VW beetle (old style) , VW campervan variants & VW pickup . Ric

Where were they advertised please?

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