It's N Gauge, not N scale!

Started by petejones, June 12, 2018, 10:38:58 PM

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njee20

Well no a depot is totally different!

You get Home Depots too, after you've parked your automobile in the parking lot, and used the sidewalk to get to the store.

They can have N Scale though, I still find that a useful differentiation between prototypes.

Newportnobby

Said it before and I'll say it again, Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise always said "NGauge".
I never once heard him say "NScale" :no:
Therefore make it so :telloff:

talisman56

I tend to use 'N Gauge' when referring to ordinary RTR/U stuff, and '2mm' when referring to any sort of 'finescale' versions of N.

It's been a 'Railway Station' ever since I were a nipper and I'm not changing now.

I couldn't give a toss what ever anyone else calls them as I can usually get what they mean anyway...
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Jon898

Quote from: Newportnobby on June 14, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again, Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise always said "NGauge".
I never once heard him say "NScale" :no:
Therefore make it so :telloff:

Yes, but Jean-Luc was just making his crew help out with his other hobby of renovating old Singer machines..."Make it sew..."

In any case isn't it gage not gauge?  (the former is so prevalent here, I have to remember the french pronunciation to spell it correctly!)

OK, hat, coat and the door's that way.

Jon

broadsword

How come Jean luc doesn't speak with a French accent whereas Mr Scott speaks with a Scottish accent ?
By the way Scotty is the only person to have worn s kilt in outer space.

I'll get my spacesuit............

Newportnobby

Quote from: Jon898 on June 14, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 14, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again, Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise always said "NGauge".
I never once heard him say "NScale" :no:
Therefore make it so :telloff:

Yes, but Jean-Luc was just making his crew help out with his other hobby of renovating old Singer machines..."Make it sew..."


:laughabovepost:

Quote from: Jon898 on June 14, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
In any case isn't it gage not gauge?

That would mean steam and diesel locos are definitely not greengages :confused1:

Tom U

Just curious - when where and how and by whom was the designation "N" decided upon?

PaulCheffus

Quote from: Tom U on June 14, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
Just curious - when where and how and by whom was the designation "N" decided upon?

Hi

I believe it comes from the track gauge as in Nine millimeters.

Cheers

Paul
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ntpntpntp

Quote from: Tom U on June 14, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
Just curious - when where and how and by whom was the designation "N" decided upon?

Arnold's original system with 9mm track gauge. N = Neun.
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talisman56

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Quote from: ntpntpntp on June 14, 2018, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Tom U on June 14, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
Just curious - when where and how and by whom was the designation "N" decided upon?

Arnold's original system with 9mm track gauge. N = Neun.

This. The original Treble-O(-Lectric) system was based on a track gauge of roughly 8.5mm, IFAIR (I've looked at many of the on-line pages dealing with 'OOO' and heve yet to find a definitive answer).

I recall trying to run my first N Gauge rolling stock purchases on my existing OOO track and it kept derailing, hence my investigation of the actual gauge of the OOO system.

EDIT: Found the answer tucked away in an obscure section...
The original plastic push-along track was approx 8mm gauge, the electric track was supposedly 9mm (but see paragraph above...).
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railsquid

My Lone Star OOO Class 24 will run on modern N gauge track but can't cope with points.

PLD

Strictly speaking GAUGE is the distance between the rails.

N GAUGE is 9mm gauge Track.

In the modelling world the N GAUGE track is commonly used for:

1:148 Scale models of UK Standard Gauge prototypes "BRITISH N SCALE"
1:150 Scale models of Japanese Standard Gauge prototypes "JAPANESE N SCALE"
1:160 Scale models of Continental European & North American Standard Gauge prototypes "GERMAN N SCALE"
1:100 Scale models of UK & Irish 3' Gauge prototypes "TTn3 SCALE"
1:76 Scale models of UK 2' - 2'6" Gauge prototypes "009 SCALE"
1:87 Scale models of German & French 75cm & 1m Gauge prototypes "HO9 SCALE"
1:43 Scale models of UK 15" Gauge prototypes "BRITISH 09 SCALE"
1:48 Scale models of AMERICAN 18" Gauge prototypes "AMERICAN 0n18 SCALE"

One N GAUGE, used for a multitude of SCALES, some of which are (Different) N SCALES some of which aren't N SCALES.

As Bachman produce models in a number of those, for clarity they probably should call the Graham Farish range BRITISH N SCALE  :)

ntpntpntp

Quote from: PLD on June 15, 2018, 08:00:08 AM
1:87 Scale models of German & French 75cm & 1m Gauge prototypes "HO9 SCALE"
models of 750mm gauge stock more commonly labelled HOe,  with HOm  (12mm gauge) representing the metre gauge stuff.

I'm very much in the "N gauge" camp, but so many people use "N scale" you just have to accept it.
Same in the " G scale" world, where actually various scales from 1:29 to 1:19 run on 45mm G gauge track (which itself is derived from  Gauge 1)
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Bealman

Ha ha!

That's about it.

Don't want to be of over-moderating, but seriously?
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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