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Title: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 06:46:08 AM
I don't usually say anything against Moderators, but can you please stop locking threads far to soon, i have been reading two threads over the last few days, one this morning and another last week and both have been locked. We don't all sit in front of the laptops or PC's (Though i can be on mine for a few hours lol) most of the day or night and so we catch up when we can, there have been some very interesting threads and i and i suspect other members would have like to have had the opportunity to make a comment,but alas it was not to be. Mods please remember we don't all have the time to make comments so can you please allow us to make comments.

Some threads by the way are so old they are still open from when this forum started, just wanted to point that out. 

This is still the best forum on the internet and i would hate it if we started to be like most of the others, where the moderators locked threads because they just felt like it, whether they thought the thread had run it's course or not.

Has i have said "The Moderators do a fantastic job on the Forum, and they are some of the most tolerate of people" but please allow members to have a say on threads that can run a lot longer, so long has the thread isn't being political or abusive that is.
 

Happy Modelling.       :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: PLD on April 24, 2017, 07:40:48 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 06:46:08 AM
I don't usually say anything against Moderators, but can you place stop locking threads far to soon, i have been reading two threads over the last few days, one this morning and another last week and both have been locked.

Mods please remember we don't all have the time to make comments so can you please allow us to make comments.

Some threads by the way are so old they are still open from when this forum started, just wanted to point that out. 
Locking of threads has nothing at all to do with the age - usually it is because they have drifted so far off topic or have got into banned areas such as politics & religion or descended into circular arguments or personal insults.

Sometimes, if you have a valid comment that adds quality or understanding to the original topic, then a PM to the moderators may get the thread temporarily reopened to allow your post.

P.S. I predict this one being locked in under 20 posts...  ;)
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 08:06:23 AM
It's usually because they've drifted slightly off topic. This is stupid when people are still posting. The speeding one is a good example, I was going to post something back on topic on it, but it got locked because there were half a dozen posts slightly unrelated. It is a real irritation.

It only takes one post to get a thread back on topic! IMO threads should be locked if they break forum rules, or turn abusive. But we're having this discussion once a month currently, and nothing changes.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: emjaybee on April 24, 2017, 08:25:08 AM
There was a thread a few days ago about someone wanting advice on buying a drone. It wasn't particularly old, a few days, the discussion was still about drones, and it got locked.

I'm on a number of forums and I still can't believe how heavy handed the mods are on here when it comes to topic direction.

When you have a regular conversation about anything, there is very often a little deviation from the original subject matter before the conversation returns to the original subject. I find this "over-moderation" unnecessary and unwelcome as it makes the flow of "conversations " a little boring and sterile.

I respect your job in curbing language violations, stealth advertising, moving threads to the correct location, etc., but please ease up on playing god on conversations.

Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 08:34:19 AM
Quote from: PLD on April 24, 2017, 07:40:48 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 06:46:08 AM
I don't usually say anything against Moderators, but can you place stop locking threads far to soon, i have been reading two threads over the last few days, one this morning and another last week and both have been locked.

Mods please remember we don't all have the time to make comments so can you please allow us to make comments.

Some threads by the way are so old they are still open from when this forum started, just wanted to point that out. 
Locking of threads has nothing at all to do with the age - usually it is because they have drifted so far off topic or have got into banned areas such as politics & religion or descended into circular arguments or personal insults.

Sometimes, if you have a valid comment that adds quality or understanding to the original topic, then a PM to the moderators may get the thread temporarily reopened to allow your post.

P.S. I predict this one being locked in under 20 posts...  ;)

Don't think the topic i was reading had gone of topic at all, and i do realise that it has nothing to do with age by the way. And i agree it will or 21-22-23 depends on how the mod is feeling.


Quote from: emjaybee on April 24, 2017, 08:25:08 AM
There was a thread a few days ago about someone wanting advice on buying a drone. It wasn't particularly old, a few days, the discussion was still about drones, and it got locked.

I'm on a number of forums and I still can't believe how heavy handed the mods are on here when it comes to topic direction.

When you have a regular conversation about anything, there is very often a little deviation from the original subject matter before the conversation returns to the original subject. I find this "over-moderation" unnecessary and unwelcome as it makes the flow of "conversations " a little boring and sterile.

I respect your job in curbing language violations, stealth advertising, moving threads to the correct location, etc., but please ease up on playing god on conversations.



Agree with above. Now that's all i am going to say against the moderators, because i do believe they have a thankless job and if you have seen my posts praising them and the forum, you will see i will defend them has much as possible.   Happy Modelling.       :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: austinbob on April 24, 2017, 08:39:26 AM
Trouble is, there could be other forum members who complain about the content and the drift off topic of some threads and ask for them to be locked or brought back in line.
This forum is pretty big now with so many different topic categories and threads.
So the mods can't please everyone all the time whatever action they take.

I must say I have noticed, over the past year or two, that some posts are becoming more aggressive and outrageous (if that's the right word) and promote aggressive responses. I'm sure many of us have been guilty of this at some time, I know I have for which I apologise. Sometimes it is just so difficult not to respond to some of these 'dodgy' posts.

So this also, I would guess, makes the mods more sensitive to making comments or locking threads. They just can't win really.

Psychoanalysis over - further analysis can be carried out for a small fee.
:) :beers:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 08:51:16 AM
I do agree Bob, but the thread i was reading had not gone off topic, there was no aggressive comments or bad language so i didn't see why it got locked, there was i feel still a lot to be said really by members,but it's getting a bit negative now on some threads, it's ok for members to make jokes ( I have nothing against that ) which can be boring and run for pages but nothing is done about that. Why can't mods delete posts they feel are not appropriate, but inform the poster 1st that they may be going the wrong way with the thread and their post is been considered for deletion. That i feel is a more democratic way of doing things, because lets face it some mods do say some things out of order themselves. They are only human after all, but saying anything against them posting some you feel is wrong is not it seems the done thing. 

Happy Modelling, going to the model shop now to have a browse and see if they will put anything i see to one side for me until tomorrow. Last PAY DAY yeah.      :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Bealman on April 24, 2017, 08:58:48 AM

The drone post was actually initiated by a moderator, and, looking back through it, the original post was getting clouded by video privacy issues. The OP actually said it was for indoor use.

The speeding thread began as a point of information, but then, as already noted, drifted. Even if back on topic, the issue seems cut and dried. The law will change, and every member I'm sure, would agree that the simple response  is to not break the speed limit.

So basically, the issue has been addressed.

We are primarily a model railway forum, after all.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 09:05:51 AM
But it's a discussion forum. Yes, the speeding post could have been a PSA with no responses, but so could many threads - anything about a new product for example. The whole point of a forum is to engage in conversation with people, surely? That is regularly stifled. 

As for your last line, why not ditch all the non n-gauge forums then? Serious question, if you don't want "discussion" (using the term lightly) about anything else? Not unreasonable, as you say, it's a forum for model railways. Keep it niche.

It is a real shame, it's a good forum, but the over moderation is a fly in the ointment.

But anyway, this is at least he 4th thread on this now. If members do request topics are locked they've never said anything, whilst a number have said it's a real pain. Perhaps there's a silent majority who don't want to speak out.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: emjaybee on April 24, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
They better watch out on the TINGS thread then, as they're currently discussing traffic lights.

(Actually, I'd rather it was left alone as it's rather amusing)

Perhaps rather than locking a thread without warning, or deleting/moving deviant threads, how about putting in a warning (after a reasonable time) that the thread is drifting or that the original topic has run its course and that if there is nothing new to add the thread will be locked.

(I've never actually seen another Forum that locks threads other than "informational" ones)

Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: austinbob on April 24, 2017, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on April 24, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
Perhaps rather than locking a thread without warning, or deleting/moving deviant threads, how about putting in a warning (after a reasonable time) that the thread is drifting or that the original topic has run its course and that if there is nothing new to add the thread will be locked.

I think the mods often do this emjaybee. I'm sure I've seen them do this quite often although its not something that sticks in the memory. Example, looking back at the speeding thread Pengi said 'Are we all done on this discussion then?' Bealman said 'Is this thread about speed limits, or tyre sizes?  ???'
:beers:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: dannyboy on April 24, 2017, 09:32:12 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on April 24, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
They better watch out on the TINGS thread then, as they're currently discussing traffic lights.

I didn't start that - 'onest Guv'  :)

(Actually, I'd rather it was left alone as it's rather amusing) We all need some humour in our daily life, including the forum!  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 09:33:18 AM
Quote from: Bealman on April 24, 2017, 08:58:48 AM

The drone post was actually initiated by a moderator, and, looking back through it, the original post was getting clouded by video privacy issues. The OP actually said it was for indoor use.

The speeding thread began as a point of information, but then, as already noted, drifted. Even if back on topic, the issue seems cut and dried. The law will change, and every member I'm sure, would agree that the simple response  is to not break the speed limit.

So basically, the issue has been addressed.

We are primarily a model railway forum, after all.  :thumbsup:

I agree George that no one should be speeding and i for one have no time for the idiots that do, and yes this is a model railway forum , but was it not both threads in general discussion so it should be left alone to run and run.

While it is me that has started this thread George, i do believe, has i have stated that you all do a great job and this is still the  best forum on the web for N Gauge and others gauges if one so desires and i will support you all has moderators 100%, but please leave threads alone and let the members make there own conclusions on the thread and if a member is being abusive or getting on some body's back then it can be reported to yourselves to see into them.

Please carry on doing a brilliant job George and the other Moderators, but again leave the threads for the members to carry on posting.    Happy Modelling to you all.      :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbs:

Now differently going to the locos model shop.     lol.        :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 09:37:06 AM
Quote from: austinbob on April 24, 2017, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on April 24, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
Perhaps rather than locking a thread without warning, or deleting/moving deviant threads, how about putting in a warning (after a reasonable time) that the thread is drifting or that the original topic has run its course and that if there is nothing new to add the thread will be locked.

I think the mods often do this emjaybee. I'm sure I've seen them do this quite often although its not something that sticks in the memory. Example, looking back at the speeding thread Pengi said 'Are we all done on this discussion then?' Bealman said 'Is this thread about speed limits, or tyre sizes?  ???'
:beers:

Bob the tyre size is a relevant point, the bigger the size the faster you will go, that's why these street guys have bigger wheels on, not only to look good but to go that bit faster.      :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Bealman on April 24, 2017, 09:39:44 AM
Thanks, Rod.

In the end it is referred to Tank.

I love this forum and think that generally we have a great mix of lighthearted banter and serious stuff.

But we do sometimes stuff up.  :beers:

George
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 09:50:40 AM
Out of interest, what is the intended goal by locking threads have gone off topic? Is it that people may read one and find it didn't offer anything informative beyond the first page? Do people complain about that?

They do definitely comment sometimes when threads are off topic, the problem is that's quite artificial. Conversation is fluid, people will either just leave a thread (which i guess is the point) or likely carry on the tangeant!

It's not really a case of "stuffing up" George, it appears to be a unified approach, it's obviously conscious, and you do it very well (irritating such as it is). I forget who it was last time we did this said that this forum is like the Prisoner. It appears to be entirely sweet and innocent on the surface, but if you step out of line you're swiftly brought back!
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: oscar on April 24, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
 
QuoteI agree George that no one should be speeding and i for one have no time for the idiots that do, 

Steamie, so you have no time for virtually every driver in the world, including yourself?  :bounce:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: dannyboy on April 24, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
Quote from: oscar on April 24, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
QuoteI agree George that no one should be speeding and i for one have no time for the idiots that do, 

Steamie, so you have no time for virtually every driver in the world, including yourself?  :bounce:

Nothing personal oscar, but surely it is comments like this that get threads locked.  ??? :)
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 10:06:25 AM
It's an issue with the typed word. I don't see a problem with that, the emoticon helps, it's clearly a light hearted comment and a nod to the fact that virtually every driver on the road does speed.

But we've gone off topic. Ironically the thread where we could have this discussion was locked for being off topic.

Perhaps we could have a Two Ronnies-esque "discussing the thread that was locked before" forum.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Newportnobby on April 24, 2017, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 24, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
Quote from: oscar on April 24, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
QuoteI agree George that no one should be speeding and i for one have no time for the idiots that do, 

Steamie, so you have no time for virtually every driver in the world, including yourself?  :bounce:

Nothing personal oscar, but surely it is comments like this that get threads locked.  ??? :)

Quite right. Personal attacks will not be tolerated as this goes straight against the 'friendly Forum' ethic. Such posts should be immediately removed by Mods but, in this instance, I'm minded to leave it there to show what can provoke a Mod response. Personally, I don't have too much trouble with folks going off topic (how can I - I'm one of the worst?) but remember the longer the topic is left to run the more opportunites there are for comments like the one from Oscar.
I think any further comment from the Mods should come from @Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2)
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: emjaybee on April 24, 2017, 10:12:12 AM
I dont think you stuff up at all, some mods may be a little over zealous in handling some of the threads, but I'm sure it's done with the best of intentions. I just feel that, especially in general discussions as well as n gauge stuff, you could ease up a bit and make your own lives easier as well as make the forum conversation feel more natural.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 24, 2017, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 24, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
Quote from: oscar on April 24, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
QuoteI agree George that no one should be speeding and i for one have no time for the idiots that do, 

Steamie, so you have no time for virtually every driver in the world, including yourself?  :bounce:

Nothing personal oscar, but surely it is comments like this that get threads locked.  ??? :)

Quite right. Personal attacks will not be tolerated as this goes straight against the 'friendly Forum' ethic. Such posts should be immediately removed by Mods but, in this instance, I'm minded to leave it there to show what can provoke a Mod respone

For clarity NN - are you saying Oscar's comment constitutes a "personal attack"? I'm not seeing that at all.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Newportnobby on April 24, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 24, 2017, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 24, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
Quote from: oscar on April 24, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
QuoteI agree George that no one should be speeding and i for one have no time for the idiots that do, 

Steamie, so you have no time for virtually every driver in the world, including yourself?  :bounce:

Nothing personal oscar, but surely it is comments like this that get threads locked.  ??? :)

Quite right. Personal attacks will not be tolerated as this goes straight against the 'friendly Forum' ethic. Such posts should be immediately removed by Mods but, in this instance, I'm minded to leave it there to show what can provoke a Mod respone

For clarity NN - are you saying Oscar's comment constitutes a "personal attack"? I'm not seeing that at all.

For clarity - yes I am. How does Oscar know someone speeds? He has made a purely unsubstantiated comment on a fellow member.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: dannyboy on April 24, 2017, 10:23:45 AM
Human nature being what it is, a discussion on a single topic will always have some participants going 'off topic'. Maybe we should all agree to differ. Should the 'Locked threads' thread now be locked  ??? :).  Anyway, enough from me, I have a kitchen to finish painting, (and that is 'off topic'  :smiley-laughing:)
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 10:24:56 AM
Fair enough NN, I'll eat my hat if there's a driver alive who's never exceeded a speed limit! It's about as much of a personal attack as saying "you have two hands"  :D
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Bealman on April 24, 2017, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 09:50:40 AM
Out of interest, what is the intended goal by locking threads have gone off topic? Is it that people may read one and find it didn't offer anything informative beyond the first page? Do people complain about that?

They do definitely comment sometimes when threads are off topic, the problem is that's quite artificial. Conversation is fluid, people will either just leave a thread (which i guess is the point) or likely carry on the tangeant!

It's not really a case of "stuffing up" George, it appears to be a unified approach, it's obviously conscious, and you do it very well (irritating such as it is). I forget who it was last time we did this said that this forum is like the Prisoner. It appears to be entirely sweet and innocent on the surface, but if you step out of line you're swiftly brought back!

This is clearly a personal go at me.

But I'll leave it there. Any further issues, please pm either Tank or myself.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 10:37:18 AM
It really wasn't, stuffing up implies you do something wrong. You do something that I and a significant chunk of the membership base don't like, but you don't do it wrong. It's not just you - there's obviously a mandate among mods to close off topic threads, so it's not an error. No need to look for a personal slur where there isn't one :)
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: Bealman on April 24, 2017, 09:39:44 AM
Thanks, Rod.

In the end it is referred to Tank.

I love this forum and think that generally we have a great mix of lighthearted banter and serious stuff.

But we do sometimes stuff up.  :beers:

George

We all do at some point George, we are human beings, that's what makes us unique isn't.    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 10:47:12 AM
Well it seems a have stirred things up again, sorry George i didn't mean to.    :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: austinbob on April 24, 2017, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 10:47:12 AM
Well it seems a have stirred things up again, sorry George i didn't mean to.    :sorrysign:
Don't worry about it Steamie - some things are too easily stirred!!!
Time to abandon this thread and get back to what matters.
:NGF: :beers:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 11:03:26 AM
Yes going into the shed and work on Roedann Viaduct. Anne bless her has bought me a set of Medium Streamline points for the layout has even she has noticed i haven't done a lot to it just lately, i told her i was waiting for LAST PAY DAY so i could buy some, she went and got them for me, brilliant hey.       :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: red_death on April 24, 2017, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: Bealman on April 24, 2017, 10:28:42 AM
This is clearly a personal go at me.

In what way is it a personal go at you? It doesn't criticise you personally - the comment is a general comment about the NGF.

Please don't take things so personally.  It actually makes things easier to do your job as a mod if you don't let things get personal to you as people see that they might disagree with your actions but know that you are being fair.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: NinOz on April 24, 2017, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 10:37:18 AM
You do something that I and a significant chunk of the membership base don't like,
And a "significant chunk" is how many?  I must have missed the poll. :thumbsdown:
So far seems to be less than 10 sufficiently disturbed to post in the negative so we have, say, a total of 15 members on this forum.
About 95% of statistics are made up on the spot. :D

I don't find it harsh or overbearing.  Job well done mods. :thankyousign:

Bealman: Damper, tea and ANZAC bicky day tomorrow?  Will be for me. :claphappy:  My wife is an ex-POM but insists on doing something OZ on the day.

Regards,
CFJ
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:11:27 AM
I think this thread has run its course now.  Perhaps it's time to lock it?

[Lights blue touchpaper, retreats to safe distance...]

:angel:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: NinOz on April 24, 2017, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 10:37:18 AM
You do something that I and a significant chunk of the membership base don't like,
And a "significant chunk" is how many?  I must have missed the poll. :.

I've no idea, which is why I didn't put a number, percentage or any other statistic  ::) thanks for the condescension though. Bit of a personal attack?

That we've had so many of these threads suggests people do find it an issue. I'm not saying everyone does. But some do.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 11:14:40 AM
Quote from: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:11:27 AM
I think this thread has run its course now.  Perhaps it's time to lock it?

[Lights blue touchpaper, retreats to safe distance...]

:angel:

I'll bookmark it so I can save typing the same things next week!
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 11:16:58 AM
Your comment is just asking for trouble, if anyone has got to say it should be locked it is me has i started this. so yes please lock this thread NPN, Bealman and any other Mod. I am sick of members just commenting to have personal attacks on the forum it is really getting down, this is the best forum on the web and if you don't like what the mods do then retreat to the other forums that allow you to say what ever you what, I Don't Think So.     

Happy Modelling.        :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: NinOz on April 24, 2017, 11:17:56 AM
Quote from: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:11:27 AM
I think this thread has run its course now.  Perhaps it's time to lock it?

[Lights blue touchpaper, retreats to safe distance...]

:angel:
NO.  :no:
Disagree strongly. >:(
A thread is never at the end of the run until someone mentions a comparison to Hitler or Nazis.

CFJ
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: oscar on April 24, 2017, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 24, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 24, 2017, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 24, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
Quote from: oscar on April 24, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
QuoteI agree George that no one should be speeding and i for one have no time for the idiots that do, 

Steamie, so you have no time for virtually every driver in the world, including yourself?  :bounce:

Nothing personal oscar, but surely it is comments like this that get threads locked.  ??? :)

Quite right. Personal attacks will not be tolerated as this goes straight against the 'friendly Forum' ethic. Such posts should be immediately removed by Mods but, in this instance, I'm minded to leave it there to show what can provoke a Mod respone

For clarity NN - are you saying Oscar's comment constitutes a "personal attack"? I'm not seeing that at all.

For clarity - yes I am. How does Oscar know someone speeds? He has made a purely unsubstantiated comment on a fellow member.

Just stating a fact.... :angel: :confused1:
Can anyone truthfully deny it?
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: NinOz on April 24, 2017, 11:49:24 AM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 11:35:37 AM
and contributed nothing (NinOz I'm looking at you), that's far more damaging.
Are we straying a bit into the personal attack realm?

What I miss on this forum is the capability of the OP to lock and unlock their own thread (unless locked by a mod).
Has some good uses beside locking down thread wander.

CFJ
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 12:07:45 PM
That sounds like an atrocious feature! Why not just have a blog?
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Tank on April 24, 2017, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 09:50:40 AM
I forget who it was last time we did this said that this forum is like the Prisoner. It appears to be entirely sweet and innocent on the surface, but if you step out of line you're swiftly brought back!

This 'prison' has a voluntary leaving policy....you may use it. :)


Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 09:05:51 AM
But anyway, this is at least he 4th thread on this now. If members do request topics are locked they've never said anything, whilst a number have said it's a real pain. Perhaps there's a silent majority who don't want to speak out.

Hit the nail on the head.  Some members are vocal, and others just report to us about it.  Some members also write posts that are reported and we delete if we feel it's right.  A lot of the time we feel that most reported posts are OK.  A lot happens behind the scenes, and many of you don't see the rude posts that are put on here as they've been deleted.  Even posts on this thread have been deleted by the members that wrote them. ::)

Locked threads are only ever locked if the thread is out of hand, or if the original poster asks for it to be locked - to which we won't say as that's confidential.

We did have a policy of locking some topics that would quickly get out of control, but I asked the moderators not to do this a couple of months back as there were complaints.

Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: daffy on April 24, 2017, 01:59:21 PM
Just read this thread.

Wish I hadn't.

I'm going to play with my trains now.

Anybody want to join me?

Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 02:02:51 PM
Quote from: daffy on April 24, 2017, 01:59:21 PM
Just read this thread.

Wish I hadn't.

I'm going to play with my trains now.

Anybody want to join me?

Yes please Mike.     :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Tank on April 24, 2017, 02:16:59 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: oscar on April 24, 2017, 02:21:29 PM
Just stopped for a rest from building Metcalfe houses. God, they're blooming fiddly for my shaky old hands! :'(
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 24, 2017, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 09:50:40 AM
I forget who it was last time we did this said that this forum is like the Prisoner. It appears to be entirely sweet and innocent on the surface, but if you step out of line you're swiftly brought back!

This 'prison' has a voluntary leaving policy....you may use it. :)

But I like it here (to the annoyance of some I'm sure), it's just a good observation!

Quote from: Tank on April 24, 2017, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 09:05:51 AM
But anyway, this is at least he 4th thread on this now. If members do request topics are locked they've never said anything, whilst a number have said it's a real pain. Perhaps there's a silent majority who don't want to speak out.

Hit the nail on the head.  Some members are vocal, and others just report to us about it.  Some members also write posts that are reported and we delete if we feel it's right.  A lot of the time we feel that most reported posts are OK.  A lot happens behind the scenes, and many of you don't see the rude posts that are put on here as they've been deleted.  Even posts on this thread have been deleted by the members that wrote them. ::)

Locked threads are only ever locked if the thread is out of hand, or if the original poster asks for it to be locked - to which we won't say as that's confidential.

Yes, I'm acerbic enough as it is, even I identify a need to self moderate at times :D

I'm not sure the message has got through about not locking threads that wander a bit - the speeding one is a good example, unless the OP requested it. That said, IMO threads are not "owned" by anyone - again, they're not blogs, and I tend to think that you're putting something out there into the public domain. Yes, lock threads that have become truly argumentative, but I don't like that I can start a thread, wait for a few posts and then say "right, I'm done with this, can it please be locked?".

I know a lot happens behind the scenes, I've seen plenty of posts that disappear, or get edited on the sly, I've long said that moderation is a thankless task, I do agree with Mike that you could make your lives a little easier though!
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: daffy on April 24, 2017, 04:33:04 PM
Since I am the last 'Mike' to have posted on this thread I trust this last comment :

QuoteI do agree with Mike that you could make your lives a little easier though!

is not referring to me as it seems to be putting words into my mouth that I never said, or implies thoughts or feelings I do not have.

Explanation please.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
Nope, sorry, Red_Death, not your fine self.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: emjaybee on April 24, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Actually I thought he meant me, as I'd said they could make less work for themselves.

;D
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 05:11:36 PM
Well all relevant Mikes may attribute it to themselves, any Mike for whom it isn't relevant may disregard it.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: daffy on April 24, 2017, 05:21:30 PM
Okay. That's fine.

It seems more careful attribution should be given when referring to other members njee to avoid giving offence, which I know you would not wish to do.

Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 06:08:05 PM
Yep, noted, apologies! I most definitely don't ever want to cause offence, whether I accomplish that or not is another matter entirely...  :-[
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 24, 2017, 09:24:59 PM
Just look at my posting history Paul, it'll be easier!
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Pengi on April 24, 2017, 10:02:41 PM
Three moderators are at the doctor for memory tests. The doctor says to the first moderator , "What is three times three?"
"274," was his reply.
The doctor says to the second moderator, "It's your turn. What is three times three?"
"Tuesday," replies the second moderator.
The doctor says to the third moderator, "Okay, your turn. What's three times three?"
"Nine," says the third moderator.
"That's great!" says the doctor. "How did you get that?"
"Simple," says the third moderator. "I subtracted 274 from Tuesday."
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: austinbob on April 24, 2017, 10:06:50 PM
What a breath of fresh air for this thread. More please...
:claphappy:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Yet_Another on April 24, 2017, 10:50:35 PM
I can't believe no-one's done this:

(https://static.rapidonline.com/catalogueimages/Product/S87-0383P01WL.jpg)
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:11:27 AM
I think this thread has run its course now.  Perhaps it's time to lock it?

[Lights blue touchpaper, retreats to safe distance...]

:angel:

Quote from: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 11:16:58 AM
Your comment is just asking for trouble, if anyone has got to say it should be locked it is me has i started this. so yes please lock this thread NPN, Bealman and any other Mod. I am sick of members just commenting to have personal attacks on the forum it is really getting down, this is the best forum on the web and if you don't like what the mods do then retreat to the other forums that allow you to say what ever you what, I Don't Think So.     

Happy Modelling.        :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Not sure, but if that was a reply to me then apparently I was mistaken in thinking that my post was pretty obviously a joke! 
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: austinbob on April 25, 2017, 08:23:25 AM
Quote from: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:11:27 AM
I think this thread has run its course now.  Perhaps it's time to lock it?

[Lights blue touchpaper, retreats to safe distance...]

:angel:

Quote from: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 11:16:58 AM
Your comment is just asking for trouble, if anyone has got to say it should be locked it is me has i started this. so yes please lock this thread NPN, Bealman and any other Mod. I am sick of members just commenting to have personal attacks on the forum it is really getting down, this is the best forum on the web and if you don't like what the mods do then retreat to the other forums that allow you to say what ever you what, I Don't Think So.     

Happy Modelling.        :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Not sure, but if that was a reply to me then apparently I was mistaken in thinking that my post was pretty obviously a joke!
I don't think the comment was aimed at you Rabs. Parts of this thread have just turned into a slanging match and its difficult to work out who's slanging who.
I think this really is a thread the mods should turn off now - how about it?
:thankyousign:
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: njee20 on April 25, 2017, 08:39:12 AM
Why not just not open it Bob? I never quite understand the mentality around complaining about threads you're not contributing to. It's very easy to avoid threads.

That said, I'm not sure there's vast amounts more to say. however, that's no reason to lock a thread IMO, just leave it to die organically, in peace.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: daffy on April 25, 2017, 09:06:43 AM
There's a lot to be said for euthanasia,  perhaps followed by ritual burning, particularly as an antidote to the resurrectionists, and to remove the risk, in some cases, of the spread of infection.
After all, they shoot horses, don't they? And this old nag has run it race.

Oh dear, now I've gone and done it! Probably offended a hundred different factions, from equestrians to crematorium keepers, with bacterial and viral scientists throwing their hands in the air at the same time, not to mention those with particular religious and social views.

I'll shut up and go back to my first idea - playing trains.
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: PLD on April 25, 2017, 09:11:09 AM
All that remains to be said now is that the last page and a half of postings on this thread are a PERFECT example of why threads sometimes need to be locked...
:no: :doh: :hmmm: ::)
Title: Re: Locked threads
Post by: Steamie+ on April 25, 2017, 09:19:21 AM
Quote from: austinbob on April 25, 2017, 08:23:25 AM
Quote from: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: Rabs on April 24, 2017, 11:11:27 AM
I think this thread has run its course now.  Perhaps it's time to lock it?

[Lights blue touchpaper, retreats to safe distance...]

:angel:

Quote from: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 11:16:58 AM
Your comment is just asking for trouble, if anyone has got to say it should be locked it is me has i started this. so yes please lock this thread NPN, Bealman and any other Mod. I am sick of members just commenting to have personal attacks on the forum it is really getting down, this is the best forum on the web and if you don't like what the mods do then retreat to the other forums that allow you to say what ever you what, I Don't Think So.     

Happy Modelling.        :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Not sure, but if that was a reply to me then apparently I was mistaken in thinking that my post was pretty obviously a joke!
I don't think the comment was aimed at you Rabs. Parts of this thread have just turned into a slanging match and its difficult to work out who's slanging who.
I think this really is a thread the mods should turn off now - how about it?
:thankyousign:

@austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403)

You are correct Bob, this thread needs locking, but a PM from Tank who has said the mods are waiting for the ok because they have had a lot of criticism over the last few weeks. I think they should just lock it now, i have asked for it to the Mods and Tank, but they are sitting on their hands and letting it run.

Quote from: daffy on April 25, 2017, 09:06:43 AM
There's a lot to be said for euthanasia,  perhaps followed by ritual burning, particularly as an antidote to the resurrectionists, and to remove the risk, in some cases, of the spread of infection.
After all, they shoot horses, don't they? And this old nag has run it race.

Oh dear, now I've gone and done it! Probably offended a hundred different factions, from equestrians to crematorium keepers, with bacterial and viral scientists throwing their hands in the air at the same time, not to mention those with particular religious and social views.

I'll shut up and go back to my first idea - playing trains.

@daffy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5634)

It's coming in last Mike.

I too am going to play trains, when i can get the flipping points sorted.    :thumbsup: :thumbsup: