Hi can someone help. My pc is 5 years old and. I recently bought world of subways 3. The game eventually loads. After 5 minutes loading when it does it is really really slow and unplayable. The graphics seem fine just game is really slow to load and has a delay of 10secs per key press to do anything. Isit a case of me just upgrading my processor to get it running smooth to say 2.6ghz which is the recommended processor speed
You can only upgrade your processor if the motherboard will allow it. You'll need to check your system specs.
Ah right and how will I know that is there a way you could explain it to me so I can find out and post it here
You don't give much information ... can you provide the minimum spec for the game, the recommended spec, and lastly what you're using ?
Basically - if you're not at the minimum spec - forget it. Best to be at recomended or above though.
And as to upgrading PC components like processors - if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it ;D
What model is your puter and what graphics card do you have?
If you right click on 'My Computer' and then click on 'Properties' you'll see what processor you have.
Minimum System requirements for the game are:
Dual core 2.6 GHz
Windows 7, Vista, XP (SP3)
Graphics card: GeForce 9800 or comparable ATI
Soundcard
DirectX 9.0c
RAM: 2 GB
Free Harddisk space: 2 GB
Just turned it on ok in systeem properties its jaas
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 processor
3500+
2.20 Ghz, 448 mb of ram
Does that help. Nothing about graphics card but I know it has one as I have played games on it before
Also I have direct x9 installed
You need a load more RAM to run the game. Don't have enough info about you motherboard to see if it can take a faster processor. Most computers have a very basic built in graphics card.
I suggest using PC Pitstop to check your machine. http://www.pcpitstop.com/betapit/
Also download Belarc Advisor which will tell you the make and model of your motherboard. http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
So would it be cheaper to just wait until this pc has had it and buy a knew one
With the price of PCs these days, probably yes. If you have a good monitor you could save money by just buying a bare bones system.
448MB RAM ? I'm surprised anything is running, including WinDoze !
Get across to one of the memory sites & see if they can recommend any replacement RAM - or [url]http://www.corsair.com]http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscanner/?click=trueurl] or [url]http://www.corsair.com (http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscanner/?click=trueurl) are good.
Also - confirm if you have a graphics card or not - if not, you will be using RAM from the system to power the (very poor) onboard graphics system (which, given how much RAM you have listed, I suspect is the case). If you don't have one, a decent one will cost about £100.
Mike
You'd need to know what kind of graphics card would be compatible. Mine takes an AGPx4 from memory.
http://www.novatech.co.uk/
very good for cheap PC componants including RAM graphics cards etc also they have a flock of tamed geeks out back that are always helpfull when your not sure what you need,,,,,,
Quote from: Fratton on December 04, 2011, 05:15:18 PM
http://www.novatech.co.uk/
very good for cheap PC componants including RAM graphics cards etc also they have a flock of tamed geeks out back that are always helpfull when your not sure what you need,,,,,,
I can second Novatech for parts.
The three things I'd check are
1. How old is the motherboard, in particular is the graphics PCI-Express. If not I'd relegate it to a different rôle than serious gaming
2. If its PCI express then see what it'll take and price some memory - 8GB may well be the sweet spot. On older boxes with older types of RAM it can be cheaper to replace the board/cpu/ram than buy lots of now obsolete memory.
3. Then check out the video on it. When pricing video cards its worth remembering that there is a steep pricing slope for relatively low performance increases, they price them to milk the gamers for all they've got 8). Going back a couple of generations saves you a ton !
The big issue with the motherboards is that they determine the type and thus speed of memory that can be used, and the sizes. That makes a big difference to performance and isn't really fixable other ways. In the Intel case in particular it also heavily determines the CPU choice.
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 04, 2011, 07:00:57 PM
2. If its PCI express then see what it'll take and price some memory - 8GB may well be the sweet spot.
Ahem !
8 GB may be fine & dandy - but if you're using a 32-bit system it's an utter waste of money ! 32-bit OS's cannot access above 3.5GB RAM (so plug 4GB in) ... You need a 64-bit OS for that.
Mike
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 04, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
8 GB may be fine & dandy - but if you're using a 32-bit system it's an utter waste of money ! 32-bit OS's cannot access above 3.5GB RAM (so plug 4GB in) ... You need a 64-bit OS for that.
Mike
Sorry I forgot the Windows people still used a 32bit OS ...
So what roughly would I be lOoking at to upgrade this system to work
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 04, 2011, 03:29:51 PM
448MB RAM ? I'm surprised anything is running, including WinDoze !
My current Dell laptop has only 448MB RAM, that is the maximum it is upgradeable to as it's a few years old now. Nevertheless Windows XP SP3 runs just fine, as does everything else ;)
Paul
Hi can I just check haad a look my pc I removved this faan thing and theere was a little square thing stuck underneath it with white paste is this the processor that I want to replace it has hundreds of little gold pins/teeth underneath it is this what I replace when changing processors
Please be careful, ground yourself before touching anything inside your PC as electrostatic discharge can fry things... Also DONT run your PC without that fan securely attached, your CPU can overheat in seconds...
If you are a complete novice to upgrading a PC I would recommend you either buy a new upgraded system or find someone who can help you... It will be very difficult for forum members to talk you through the procedure.
Cheers for the tip the pc turns on finee again having a look all fans start spinning however thhe orange light stays on the monitor and nothing displays???
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 04, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
Sorry I forgot the Windows people still used a 32bit OS ...
It's an option, not a requirement ... I've been using 64-bit Wintel OS for many years (server & desktop), and have been on 64-bit on my home PC since XP ...
Quote from: londonboi1985 on December 05, 2011, 11:54:58 AM
Cheers for the tip the pc turns on finee again having a look all fans start spinning however thhe orange light stays on the monitor and nothing displays???
I
did say if you don't know what you're doing
don't do it ... :'(
Sounds like you took the processor out, yes ? Did you put it the
right way back in ? Have you applied more heat compound to the top of the processor / base of the fan ? Is the fan clipped back / cabled in again ? Did you remove any other cables ? Not as simple as you've not plugged in the mouse / keyboard / monitor, is it ?
Worst case - you've shorted something (maybe the processor, maybe the main board) & you need to take it to a technician (and no I
don't mean those muppets in PC World or similar, find a
decent local PC repair place) for full diagnosis / repair - or just buy a new one.
Mike
Orange light on the monitor and no display sounds like it's not getting a signal at all. Either something display-related is still unplugged somewhere, or you've fried something related to it.
I've taken my laptop apart before to fix a screen cut-out problem but that was just removing screws and trim parts, not knowing that much about PC electronics myself I'd NEVER touch the motherboard or its components for fear of killing it ::)
Paul
you can buy bare bones bundles from the novatech link i gave you, where they supply you with the bare system and you can use the old hard drives and cd drives from your last system,,, i did that for 3 pc's before my latest,,, a dell 9200 inspiron not a bad rig after i upped the ram and new graphics card, but i must warn i got world of subways 3 last week and my modest system wont play it well,,,,,,,,, i'm taking an rig off my grandfather in laws hands thats younger and better so once ive frankenstien'd the best bits from both pc's together HDD's Blue ray drives etc should have something to run it properly,,,,, as has been said before watch for static electricity, a friend of mine fritzed his iphone due to not taking precautions i have a bangle in my drawer that clips onto our radiator to rid of any static and dont take apart or change what you dont fully understand,,, the amount of pc's a friend of mine has fixed where someone couldnt resist changing the red voltage selector swith on the PSU at the back,,,
You shouldn't run your PC with a panel removed. The cooling system only works properly if the panels are in place. You can't tell what processor you need just by looking at it. You need to know the name of your system. You haven't told us yet. Is it a Dell, or a Hewlet Packard or what?
You shouldn't remove parts unless you know what you're doing. The fan on the processor is sometimes held on by a fragile ring which cannot be replaced if it comes out.
I have the instruction book for my motherboard which tells me where everything goes and the upgrade options. For instance, it tells me that I have a ZIF Socket 478 to install a Pentium 4 CPU with a 400MHz/533MHz System Data Bus.
Tis a. Compaqi
The processor model should come up when booting through the bios (alternatively look at the BIOS), but if changing the processor it often helps to know the motherboard as well.
WRT to memory if it is displaying 448 MB for the RAM then it sounds like the system is either using some memory for graphics (eg a 512 MB with 64 MB used for graphics) or that the memory slots have just been filled with a bizarre combo of memory eg 256, 128 and 64. If the latter it should be possible to put more a lot more memory in (though whether it is worth doing so will depend on the rest of the specs!).
Compaq make a lot of computers. You need to know the exact model.
Running the Belarc Advisor on my computer shows that my main circuit board is:
Board: http://www.abit.com.tw/ IT7-MAX2 (Intel i845PE-ICH4) 2.0
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 03/27/2003
Running the Crucial System Scanner shows that I have:
Memory:DDR PC2700, DDR PC3200
Memory Type: DDR PC2700, DDR PC3200, DDR (non-ECC)
Maximum Memory: 2GB
Currently Installed Memory: 2GB
Total Memory Slots: 3
Available Memory Slots:1
Each memory slot can hold DDR PC2700, DDR PC3200 with a maximum of 1GB per slot.*
*Not to exceed manufacturer supported memory.
Although it is physically possible to install more memory, the system will only recognize the maximum listed. Installing more memory may cause major problems. Consult the system's manufacturer for more information.
I can go to http://www.abit.com.tw, find my motherboard, IT7-MAX2, and see what processor I can use.
If you don't have all the information you can't upgrade your PC.
I've recently built myself a new computer using parts from this site:
http://www.aria.co.uk/
You can get a decent gaming PC for around £450 that will play all of the latest games. you can unscrew the hard disc from your old pc and plug it into your new pc so that you keep all of your files. :thumbsup:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming+Range/Gladiator/Gladiator+IBIS+Deluxe+Intel+Core+i3-2100+%40+3.10GHz+DDR3+Gaming+PC+?productId=46328
If that's too much they sell more affordable 'family pcs' that arent quite as powerful but are much cheaper. This one is £240
http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Home+and+Office/Family+PCs/Gladiator+Inspire+3300+Value+Desktop+PC+?productId=47277
They also sell components at very competitive prices so you can build your own pc (like I just did)
I'd also like to make it clear that i'm not affiliated with this company. They're just very good value which is important if you're a student like me ;D
Quote from: Pembo on December 05, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
I've recently built myself a new computer using parts
Just curious ...
Was it part built (eg processor already installed onto a motherboard already in the case), or did you have an empty case & a lot of boxes ?
Mike
Hi
It was an empty case and separate components, processor, motherboard, psu, ram etc.
Found thiis on ebaay from a pc store item number 260896061891
Is this a good buy aand will it work that game
Quote from: londonboi1985 on December 06, 2011, 03:27:51 PM
Found thiis on ebaay from a pc store item number 260896061891
Is this a good buy aand will it work that game
For the price it seems pretty good. Xeon processors are usually found in servers rather than your average desktop PC.
However the graphics card says that its an AGP graphics card which are an older type, you probably wont be able to upgrade in the future. Other problems are that you don't know the brand of the PSU (Power Supply Unit), which could fry your pc and all of its expensive components. My last PSU cost £80 on its own.
Obviously its your decision but at the end of the day it seems to me like a last generation pc which wont give you much room for upgrading in the future.
Pembo
Hhhmmm will it work world of subwayss then that's prob the biggest spec game I have and ever will have other games I use are railworks
Just checked the graphics card in that PC and it won't run that game i'm afraid. I believe its around 9 years old and only has 64MB of on board memory. The game you want to run requires at least 512MB of onboard dedicated graphics memory.
Ebay item 350495341355 shows you the graphics card that pc has. As you can probably tell its not really worth anything.
Something like this might just about play it
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-5600-DUALCORE-GAMING-3-GIG-RAM-512-MB-GRAPHICS-PACKARD-BELL-VISTA-PREMIUM-PC-/120822487009?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item1c2194d7e1#ht_920wt_932
However It would have to be on the lowest settings and even then I wouldn't put much hope in it. If you don't mind me asking what sort of budget do you have? I might be able to have a look for something in your price range then.
Pembo
Read the description carefully. You do realize it doesn't come with a monitor, keyboard, mouse or cables ? It doesn't even come with a plug. The hard drive is rather small by todays standards. It looks like all the PCs they sell are returns. He only offers a 30 day warranty and wants to charge you for the postage if it breaks down. Not to mention the 94 negs, 85 neutrals and 10 revised feedbacks.
I buy a lot of things from Ebay, but I go elsewhere for new computer systems.
I've sent you a PM londonboi1985
IMHO you might as well bite the bullet and buy a new PC and a decent graphics card with a guarantee than mess about trying to upgrade your old one or buying a second hand one that's probably out of date anyway.
Allan
Buy a new PC from Dell or PC World...
BTW I couldn't find those feet...
What aabout this systems specs will they work world of subways 3
Intel Core 2 Duo (2x1.86GHz) E6300 Processor
2 GB DDR2 Memory
320GB Hard Disk Drive (7200rpm)
256MB NVIDIA Ge Force 7100GS Graphics Card
Dual Layer DVD-RW Driver
DVB-T\Analogue Stereo TV Tuner Card
Media card reader
Needs a 2.6 GHz Dual Core processor i'm afraid.
Also needs a GeForce 9800 or comparable ATI graphics card.
The systems I gave you links to last night would all work, but they are a bit more expensive.
If you are going to buy a new pc then ebuyer.com have some good ones at reasonable prices and offer a fast and efficient service. I have always built my own pc's and have been using ebuyer for some time now with no problems. Hope you get sorted soon.
Donkey
I have a brand new ATI Radeon High Definition 5770 1 Gigabyte Graphics Card for sale £70 - cost £95. Box opened.
Still looking for a pc to run wos 3 etc on came across this will this be good enough:
Windows 7 o/s
Processor is core 2 quad 2.33ghz
Ggraphics card ati radeon sapphire hd 3650
Ram is 2gb
Hdd spaace 2500gb
Is this good enough