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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: Catsick on April 27, 2022, 08:15:13 AM

Title: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on April 27, 2022, 08:15:13 AM
Is the N'porium still being used as looks a bit empty at moment?
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Southerngooner on April 27, 2022, 09:07:36 AM
I'm not sure a lot gets sold via it. I've placed two sets of ads over the last year and only sold one item out of 10, despite prices being competitive. All the stuff later sold on eBay. I've had some vehicles for sale for a month at cheaper prices than you can get elsewhere but not a sniff.....

Dave
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Ensign Elliott on April 27, 2022, 09:13:27 AM
I sell all my stuff on the N'porium Facebook Page - much easier to use
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Calnefoxile on April 27, 2022, 09:52:17 AM
Quote from: Southerngooner on April 27, 2022, 09:07:36 AM
I've had some vehicles for sale for a month at cheaper prices than you can get elsewhere but not a sniff.....

Dave

Dave,

Just seen your vehicles, I'll have them mate..

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: emjaybee on April 27, 2022, 10:46:37 AM
Result! Look at that, free market economy!

:D
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Southerngooner on April 27, 2022, 10:48:47 AM
I'll eat my words.....! Great result, all ready to post and out of my work area!

Dave
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: njee20 on April 27, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on April 27, 2022, 10:46:37 AM
Result! Look at that, free market economy!

:D

Yeah, but for the avoidance of doubt that's literally what is wrong with the N'porium and why I said it was terrible; you need to post somewhere else to say "hey I'm selling a thing" for people to see it!
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Southerngooner on April 27, 2022, 11:03:38 AM
I always look at whats on there once a week or so, but I agree it's not easy to see new stuff going on.

Dave
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: emjaybee on April 27, 2022, 11:17:18 AM
Quote from: njee20 on April 27, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on April 27, 2022, 10:46:37 AM
Result! Look at that, free market economy!

:D

Yeah, but for the avoidance of doubt that's literally what is wrong with the N'porium and why I said it was terrible; you need to post somewhere else to say "hey I'm selling a thing" for people to see it!

Seriously?

Why start a bun fight here after already starting one elsewhere?

:doh:
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Southerngooner on April 27, 2022, 11:49:46 AM
There is a point to consider here. While my vehicles only sold after the prompt this morning, there had been 105 views so quite a few people knew it was there, but didn't want to buy for whatever reason. I thought there used to be a post on the main board when something was added to the NPorium, has this stopped now?

I went into the Listing to cancel it but see someone has got there before me, presumably one of the mods?

Dave
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: njee20 on April 27, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on April 27, 2022, 11:17:18 AM
Seriously?

Why start a bun fight here after already starting one elsewhere?

:doh:

No bun fights were started! I merely gave an opinion, which was disputed. This is an example of why I gave that opinion. You may continue to disagree with it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Red Onion on April 27, 2022, 06:03:29 PM
I stuck some track up for sale a couple of months back and it was gone in a day, so it can be a good place to sell.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Young Bulla on April 27, 2022, 06:24:43 PM
And very much appreciated it was too!
Just having fun with it trying to fit a terminus station into a 2.2 metre by 15cm space.
Once again, thank you Red Onion.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Red Onion on April 27, 2022, 07:15:36 PM
You're most welcome! I'm glad it went to a good home and hope to see your finished project on here one day  :)
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Tank on April 27, 2022, 08:49:23 PM
Quote from: Southerngooner on April 27, 2022, 11:49:46 AM
There is a point to consider here. While my vehicles only sold after the prompt this morning, there had been 105 views so quite a few people knew it was there, but didn't want to buy for whatever reason. I thought there used to be a post on the main board when something was added to the NPorium, has this stopped now?

I went into the Listing to cancel it but see someone has got there before me, presumably one of the mods?

Dave

Yes, the posts still generate automatically when a listing is approved. 

Also, to those who may use Adblockers, there is a random listing that appears to the right of the forum to help advertise and listings.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Bealman on April 27, 2022, 10:24:07 PM
Yes, I forgot about that right hand side random info. That's where I first saw the gunpowder van I bought recently!
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: emjaybee on April 27, 2022, 10:59:14 PM
Quote from: Bealman on April 27, 2022, 10:24:07 PM
Yes, I forgot about that right hand side random info. That's where I first saw the gunpowder van I bought recently!

Yep, BANG, there it was!

Sorry George, I'll get my coat.

:dighole:
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 09:10:50 AM
Question regarding paypal payments, should any payment made to you include the buyers name & full address?
Only ever bought using paypal, sold 1 item using it but no address given.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: thebrighton on April 28, 2022, 09:20:20 AM
Quote from: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 09:10:50 AM
Question regarding paypal payments, should any payment made to you include the buyers name & full address?
Only ever bought using paypal, sold 1 item using it but no address given.
It was the case that if you were buying something you were basically paying an invoice so your name and address was provided by PayPal so the recipient knew where the order came from. PayPal doesn't if you are using friends and family as supposedly they are friends or family so know where you live and aren't posting something to you ;)
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 09:28:39 AM
Thank you, would've though it would be a default thing to include an address to verify the buyer, even if friend/family to provide 100% protection.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Papyrus on April 28, 2022, 10:28:16 AM
I don't think the N'porium is any better or worse than any other listing site. I've sold several items on here and got what I regard as a fair price for them. Others I've advertised haven't sold. That's just the way it is. It's the same elsewhere. I recently advertised four household items on Gumtree - 2 sold, 2 didn't. I have to agree that the N'porium has been a bit quiet lately, but that happens from time to time.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 10:57:48 AM
I'll have to get stuff listed on here as facebook is blocking me for some reason but it never tells you why!!!! much like Windows when it says it's encountered a problem lol
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Newportnobby on April 28, 2022, 12:42:09 PM
It's my belief forum members price their articles to benefit fellow members or at least to get a fair price. For sure, if some plank on EBay wants to spend £300 on a coach then why should anyone disabuse them (tongue in cheek example before I get vilified ::))
I also tend to believe anything I sell goes to a good home rather than someone who will just sell on in order to make a profit on my benevolence towards our members.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: chrism on April 28, 2022, 12:51:10 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 28, 2022, 12:42:09 PM
I also tend to believe anything I sell goes to a good home rather than someone who will just sell on in order to make a profit on my benevolence towards our members.

The wagons I bought from you around 2½ years ago certainly did, my customer oops, layout was very happy   :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 01:08:10 PM
So you're walking a very fine line with ideally what you'd like for your treasured rolling stock whilst not pricing yourself out of the market or being someone else stock supplier... 
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Newportnobby on April 28, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 01:08:10 PM
So you're walking a very fine line with ideally what you'd like for your treasured rolling stock whilst not pricing yourself out of the market or being someone else stock supplier...

If it was 'treasured' then I wouldn't be selling it :no:
Being a regular buyer I am quite conscious of retail pricing and generally am less than retail price, even for maybe a 'rare' item.
I can't be 100% sure what the buyer will do with my item, but if I ever found out it was sold on for a profit, that person would forever be on my  :poop: list and would be named on the forum
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Papyrus on April 28, 2022, 02:21:27 PM
Quote from: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 01:08:10 PM
So you're walking a very fine line with ideally what you'd like for your treasured rolling stock whilst not pricing yourself out of the market or being someone else stock supplier... 

But that's what you do when you advertise stuff for sale - you put a price on it which you think the item is worth and hope somebody else agrees with you. I once advertised a car in the local paper (shows how long ago that was...). I had precisely one reply, and they bought it off me, which made me think I had hit the sweet spot!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Bigmac on April 28, 2022, 02:36:32 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 28, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 01:08:10 PM
So you're walking a very fine line with ideally what you'd like for your treasured rolling stock whilst not pricing yourself out of the market or being someone else stock supplier...

If it was 'treasured' then I wouldn't be selling it :no:
Being a regular buyer I am quite conscious of retail pricing and generally am less than retail price, even for maybe a 'rare' item.
I can't be 100% sure what the buyer will do with my item, but if I ever found out it was sold on for a profit, that person would forever be on my  :poop: list and would be named on the forum

and banned even.

i think its appalling that a member would deliberately buy up limited edition items--not for his own use but to stockpile to sell on at an inflated price to other members who have been unable to buy new because they are out of stock / production.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Steven B on April 28, 2022, 04:33:36 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 28, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
I can't be 100% sure what the buyer will do with my item, but if I ever found out it was sold on for a profit, that person would forever be on my  :poop: list and would be named on the forum

What if they sold for a profit a year later? Six months? I'm sure the previous owner of your house would be disappointed that they've not benefited from any price rises since they sold it to you but that's the way of a free market.

Surely once money and goods have been exchanged it's theirs to do with as they please, regardless of if that's giving it away free or selling on at a profit. It might not be a nice feeling knowing you could have sold for more but that's life.

If caveats start being applied saying that said model can't be sold on for a profit then what's to stop the buyer putting restrictions on what they cash they've given you can be used for?


Steven B.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on April 28, 2022, 05:39:05 PM
Interesting posts. I've got to get shot of stuff as it's just sat there and whilst it's there and not in another format that is of more use to me what's the point in keeping it all. Regardless of what the next owner does with it the transaction ends once I've been paid and they have received it and are happy, what happens after that who gives a monkeys, each got what they wanted end of story.

Give me a bit of time I'll aim to get stuff listed and see what happens.
:)
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: ntpntpntp on April 28, 2022, 05:59:43 PM
Quote from: Steven B on April 28, 2022, 04:33:36 PM

Surely once money and goods have been exchanged it's theirs to do with as they please, regardless of if that's giving it away free or selling on at a profit. It might not be a nice feeling knowing you could have sold for more but that's life.


Absolutely. You've accepted the price paid and sold it, it's no longer yours and you have no say in its future.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: njee20 on April 28, 2022, 10:45:10 PM
Have to agree, but I think this is a difference in attitude toward the N'Porium. Whilst I have some good friends I've met through the forum I don't particularly feel like I should sell things cheaper here because the membership is somehow more deserving than anyone on FB/eBay. Therefore if I sold something cheap, and someone bought it to sell on, then I've undervalued it, and that's just one of those things. I agree it would leave a bitter taste in my mouth, and perhaps I'd not sell to them again, but hey ho.

If I sold something to a real life friend and they did that I'd be mildly aggrieved, as I would usually do a good deal for friends.

@Catsick (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3310) I know you had some Farish FIA container flat pairs which I'd still be interested in if you were prepared to post (not to be sold on ;D )
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Bealman on April 28, 2022, 10:53:34 PM
What I like about the N'porium is that you can be reasonably certain you're not going to get a lemon. A member of the NGF is less likely to sell a dud to a fellow member (I know I wouldn't).

I have been very satisfied with my purchases to date.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on May 03, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Did have one issue recently where someone won something I had on ebay, they had agreed to collect/pay for it on a certain day yet had opened a case against me as it hadn't been delivered despite not having payed in any way for it. On checking their items for sale they had used my pictures to advertise my item at 3 times the price they had won it for even though they hadn't payed or received/collected it!!!

However the case cancelled the contract so there lol

Damned if you do and damned if you don't price it high or low or whatever.
I'd like not to care but....
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on May 19, 2022, 06:26:35 AM
Well finally decided to pull finger out and get stuff listed on here and ebay. Priced considering sold items on ebay but see what happens. Is a mix of OO, HO, N & Z. Current feelings are bit fed up with things and need a clearout. 


Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: joe cassidy on May 19, 2022, 12:55:17 PM
Maybe you need to decide what scale you prefer ?

I would suggest N  :)
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on May 19, 2022, 10:20:09 PM
Yup, sticking with an n gauge layout which is still WIP. It's just clearing out  items not required or that don't fit in with the theme of it. I've only listed the N stuff here but other items on ebay. There will be more to follow possibly over the weekend in the nporium but a mix of Euro & Japanese stock.

Bought stuff coz I liked it and convinced myself I wanted it but it serves no purpose if it's not going to be used so all needs to go to a good home hopefully.   :)

If the stuff sells and it becomes more manageable, maybe my head will clear and things improve. Times a healer and all that but they just don't give you a timescale.   :(

Must post a pic of the layout!!!
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: geofff on May 19, 2022, 10:49:08 PM
If items are to be sold on the N'porium, would you expect the same price as you would on Ebay, or would you make any price adjustment for the fees that you would save on Ebay?

Maybe it's my perception of value, but the items that I've seen on the N'porium seem quite high.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on May 19, 2022, 11:40:30 PM
Understood..

Took me ages trawling through the sold stuff on ebay working out prices I'd be happy with.......   ???

There's a Fine line between selling and storing. Got too easily annoyed with ebay users.

Price high or low is like damned if you do or don't
I don't know....... 
this years been kak so far  :(

Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: njee20 on May 19, 2022, 11:53:29 PM
Quote from: geofff on May 19, 2022, 10:49:08 PM
If items are to be sold on the N'porium, would you expect the same price as you would on Ebay, or would you make any price adjustment for the fees that you would save on Ebay?

Maybe it's my perception of value, but the items that I've seen on the N'porium seem quite high.

EBay frequently do discounted fee offers, which makes it cheaper than taking PayPal on a separate transaction.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on May 23, 2022, 08:41:31 AM
Ebay seems to be full of watchers though or people who wait for your listing to end then contact you offering less for it like they're doing you a favour lol
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: emjaybee on May 23, 2022, 11:50:19 AM
Quote from: Catsick on May 23, 2022, 08:41:31 AM
Ebay seems to be full of watchers though or people who wait for your listing to end then contact you offering less for it like they're doing you a favour lol

Prices are definitely down at the moment. I assume due to the current economic situation. I've picked up a couple of things at 30%-40% less than they were a year ago.
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on May 23, 2022, 12:08:08 PM
Yep, it's a very tricky situation & market to deal with at the moment.
Difficult working out prices based on what you'd like for it, what you see sold on ebay, what you paid for it, condition, age, rarity, fees, post rates etc etc etc.... it was easier buying bike lol  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on May 24, 2022, 08:33:15 AM
If... and that's a big if.... anyone is interested in anything I have listed give me a shout.
Just because stuff is listed together doesn't mean there's no flexibility... just means I'm lazy when it came to listing it all.
Would still recommend multiple items would be best to justify postage even if from different lots.

Not desperate though, just being considerate considering my batching of items might be kak lol

Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 24, 2022, 04:04:27 PM
 :hellosign:
   Yes @Catsick (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3310) your Japanese items are very interesting, just got to convince the Boss we need more train's.
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: N'porium
Post by: Catsick on May 24, 2022, 04:34:39 PM
I end up convincing myself I need more trains lol