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And how are you beating the boredom?

As for me catching up on some overdue pattern making for some tooling. Anything to get out of tiling the kitchen which has now been added to the "to do list" the wife has issued me!  :worried:

I am asthmatic, with other breathing issues so my wife and I are in voluntary isolation. However, it is impossible to get delivery time slots from Sainsburies and I am currently holding on the phone 60 minutes and waiting to inform that that I am in the vulnerable category. I had a nice e-mail from their CEO telling me to do so, but it took all day to get the number to answer.

I have been designing various models and updating older designs.

3D printed some bits for my daughter and doing a few rough test prints.

Most definitely not in self isolation, for official  reasons but mrs EC has purchased me this..........

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She says it sums me up perfectly  :-[

Whilst I've not been officially classed a "vulnerable" yet I have agreed with the boss to do long term working from home during the day with network connection to my office 'pooter.  I then relinquish the room to junior overnight so he can carry on with his Commercial Music course final year stuff as best he can with Uni closed down. 

The train room is now full of large amps, speaker cabinets, drum kits and bass guitars so not likely to be much progress on the layout for a while - you can just see it at the back. It was due to be at NGSE too!  Yes that 8 string monster on the left is a bass not a standard guitar!


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We have been  in self isolation since last Monday as I am 73 suffer with high blood pressure and diabetes ,and Val did have a head injury and was in hospital two years ago with pnuemonia and  still has chest problems so we are at high risk  ,our son works for Chiltern Railways at the ticket office at Gerards Cross and it is now open plan with NO GLASS partition between him and the customers so is only 18 inches away from their faces ,he didn't want to risk bringing the virus back to us even if he didn't get it he could be a carrier .
Both him and our eldest son have been really worried but have been really good bringing essential supplies to us and leaving them on the top step and having a chat with us from at least 2 metres away .
My wife has been sowing ,doing colouring and spring cleaning ,I have been keeping her supplied with tea and sandwiches ,doing the hoovering  watching tele , D V Ds and keeping in touch with friends and playing solitaire .
AND WE HAVNT HAD A RAISED VOICE YET .
SO to everyone please STAY IN , and STAY SAFE  this NOT just having a bad cold this is very serious ,and should not be taken lightly it's NO JOKE it's a killer .
Regards and best wishes
Bob and Val Tidbury

Mine is not an essential job, I don't sell or distribute food or medicine, I'm just a tech in a small firm and we have been told everything will be fine by the bosses, and until we are told by the Scottish government (because the boss is a nationalist puppet) that we have to close, we are going to keep working.
My wife, on the other hand, is now working from home so I now have to thoroughly wash myself and change my clothes when I get in the door at night to prevent passing anything on.
Go figure  :doh:

I am currently deemed to be 'Key Personnel', although this could change by the end of the week.

Last year, I had Pneumonia. I only had 5 of the 13 anti-bodies needed to fight chest infections, but the Pneumovax I had prescribed (normally for 70 plus and I'm in my late 50's) put my count up to 11, which was deemed to be good enough! Touch wood, I've been fine for nearly a year now, Although I did get 'flu just before last Christmas.

Mizzy Gizzy has been preparing to WfH since last week, and she has now been told by her boss not to come into the office from now on....

Living alone in a retirement block flat, at the far end of the building from the road I'm pretty isolated to start with; presumably vulnerable, 86 on Thursday, type 2 diabetic, COPD (aftermath of 40 years smoking) I take  a trip out to Tesco and/or Lidl about once a week, when I run out of milk. Residents here usually have a coffee morning on Mondays, this week only 5 of us turned up usually up to a dozen, but no coffee or tea was served so no contact, we sat well spaced out in the residents lounge and had a general moans session, which shop still has whatever.

As usual at such gatherings I'm reminded of an old Hoagy Carmichael song "Talking is the woman, listening is the man"

My wife is classed as vulnerable. She has asthma, but that is well controlled and does not put her in the high risk category. However, that combined with rheumatoid arthritis and the drugs that she is on to suppress her immune system, certainly do. The children are no longer in school. I am no longer going to the office. Shopping is all we are going out for now, but we are not being overly restrictive on that - I am still going to get DIY bits and pieces as our kitchen is in bits at the moment.

For me it's the exact opposite, although most places of business have closed down, thousands across the region laid off (philly airport let go of between 600 and 1000 workers), I however still have to report to work, the Railways are classed as essential services, they have cut service and reduced our work week (50% pay cut and 40-60% cut in hours, they did give us 3 days a week off).

I feel lucky and unlucky, the former in that I am still able to work, the latter because it exposes us to many potential carriers, some of us may not even show symptoms, many people still riding the trains are health care workers and public sector worker all of whom are in the high risk groups for contracting it.

At 69 years and 7 months old I'm under the age limit - just! Combine that however with my triple bypass operation in 2018 then I'm classifying myself as vulnerable!
Haven't been outside for eight days until this morning whereupon I had to pop my repeat prescription into the local doctors surgery. I'm told there is an "app" where even that can be done on-line but I enjoyed fifteen minutes of glorious Kent sunshine instead. I'm viewing the walk to the medical centre as an outing  :D as I will in a couple of days look forward to the trundle to the chemist to pick my stuff up.

I am however concerned about my hair! I really should have had it cut a couple of weeks ago. If we have to go 12 weeks at least before it can be done it'll be on my shoulders. I really don't fancy a man bun or a pony tail.

Alec.

I'm also an asthma sufferer (late onset three years ago) and have immune system problems. Sheila has a habit of catching any bug that's going, so the decision over three weeks ago to keep ourselves to ourselves was an easy one to make.
I alone go to do the shopping, but am limiting to once a week at the most, and I make sure I'm in a supermarket for the minimum time possible. We've tried Home Delivery and Click&Collect, but after wasting countless hours trying to get a slot for either, we've given up.
Sadly today's foray to our local Sainsburys was a farce. Unfortunately they seem to have a plentiful supply of shelving, but no eggs, butter, paper rolls of any type, few fresh veg, and very few tins of anything. Looks like a 24 mile round trip to Tesco tomorrow, probably equally as farcical judging by reports.

Ah well, at least I can go to Screwfix (only Click and Collect available now) to pick up a new Combi Drill so I can start working on a few projects.

Garden is a nice distraction and keeps me sane, and being in a little village off the main roads means regular walks and cycle rides can be done without fear of meeting anyone most days, especially now as folks here seem to have got the message.

We've lived here for over 6 years, and at times it feels like we've been isolated for most of them anyway, so the current situation is like water of a duck and a drakes back. :D

Lorraine and I are both 65 and in good health but we have taken the decision to err on the side of caution.
We live in a small village with lots of local walks where it is easy to go for 5 or 6 miles (which we do most days) without seeing anyone else.
The coast is only 4 miles away and there are some lovely quiet walks there too so I guess we are luckier than most.
We used to go supermarket shopping twice a week but have decided that we'll go just once (on Wednesday mornings) for the foreseeable future.
We have a village shop that is fairly well stocked and the owner keeps some essentials "out the back" for locals. Strangers coming in asking for a pack of 24 toilet rolls get short shrift.
We have a large allotment, which is 5 minutes walk away, so hopefully we can still work on  that to keep us amused.
Plus, of course, I have my various model railways.
I have however taken the decision not to attend my local model railway club until things improve as it's just not worth taking any chances.
So....it's just the two of us for a while and to be honest, we are quite happy with that.
Keep your spirits up everyone.
Martin

I am fortunate to have a mate who works at a local farm shop just as the panic buying all kicked off, he put aside 4 sacks of maris piper spuds for me when they selling out. These are getting shared out to my boys and their family's.

I guess now is the time to dig out the bottom of the freezers and use up food that gets overlooked, we have some few joints that will make stews etc.

Andrea and myself are in voluntary self-isolation, as we both have a few health issues between us that mark us as vulnerable.

I am still working from home, though I don't know for how long. The current job involves providing tech support for some very non-essential retail businesses, who have shut their doors today.

Electra Rail is still functioning, though I am not able to take any new print orders for now. I will shortly be updating the website with a very long list of vinyls in stock. As long as the Royal Mail keeps going, so will Electra!

 @Invicta Alec (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5868) I order my repeat prescriptions on line and have them delivered, saves me time and now also keeps me away from the GP surgery and the Pharmacist, so 2 pluses for isolation.

I've been fairly lucky shopping at Tesco, the only slight deviation from normal was they had no 6pt Milk so had to get a 4pt and 2pt to last the week, I've got enough bog roll to last me a few more weeks, but if I see any on the shelves I may get a pack.

Week before last they were out of pork chops but had some large loin joints on special, bought one, sliced it into 11 chops, put 10 in the freezer.

Well my Debbie started coughing and suffering from a shortness of breath last night. So I am now locked down for at least 2 weeks

Blanche and I are pretty healthy 71-year-olds with no major problems, so technically we are at higher risk but we don't really feel it. Others in the family are more at risk, especially our son's ma-in-law, so we are semi-isolating. The only times we go out are to walk the dogs (through the woods at the back of house usually where you hardly see anybody) and I go to the shops when I have to. Boredom is not a problem. We see this as an opportunity - to do something about the neglected garden, other long-postponed jobs around the house, and play trains! I've made more progress in the last couple of weeks than I have done for months.

Hope you all stay well.

Cheers,

Chris

PS. Johnson is speaking... Looks like we are all self-isolating now...

Quote from: Fenrisian on March 23, 2020, 08:30:48 PM
Well my Debbie started coughing and suffering from a shortness of breath last night. So I am now locked down for at least 2 weeks

I sincerely hope things work out for you both.

Thanks, luckily we are both relatively fit so hopefully it will be a mild dose

Quote from: Papyrus on March 23, 2020, 08:38:39 PM
PS. Johnson is speaking... Looks like we are all self-isolating now...

Quite right too.

BBC News channel had an interesting set of graphics about infection rates.

They reckon that on average, without isolation, each infected person will infect 2½ more. Without isolation that would lead to 400 infected after 30 days, from just that one first person.

If, however, they can halve the transmission rate by means of isolation so that each infected person only transmits it to 1¼ people, after 30 days the total number infected from that first person would only be 15, instead of 400.

Quote from: Fenrisian on March 23, 2020, 08:30:48 PM
Well my Debbie started coughing and suffering from a shortness of breath last night. So I am now locked down for at least 2 weeks

Fingers crossed for you both Pete, please keep the hydration going for your better half, non alcoholic I'm afraid

We are in self isolation as my my daughter Mollie had a nasty cold (no idea if it was CV19) a couple of weeks ago.  Tomorrow was the end of our 14 days but Boris has just put an end to that idea for the next three weeks.  Our grandson was born last Saturday and we are yet to meet him in person!

No complaints though, this is a serious situation so happy to do what ever is needed to get us all (that includes you folks as well) through this.  I actually decided to retire early this time last year so do not have to WFH.  My wife and Mollie are both WFH at present - good old BT fibre is holding up well where we live.

We have also avoided buying in bulk, working on the assumption that if everyone calms down there will be plenty to go around.  Mollie was sad when they closed McDonalds and today I lost my beloved Greggs. 😉

Take care everyone and make the most of the downtime.  I am sure we will get past this and people can start complaining about working again.

God bless

Paddy

Well me and Mrs Acko went into voluntary self isolation last week with only me going out for supplies as and when needed, she is at risk been pregnant with our twin girls.
I am the only one going out as I have to any way for work on the railways, so I have to run the gauntlet so to speak but where we can avoid the risks we are, just wished people heeded the warnings before now and followed the advice lets make no mistakes we are in lock down now!

If people continue to ignore how truly severe this is then things will only get worse and honestly we will see military personnel deployed to make sure it cannot be ignored any longer and well as much as you may or may not like members of the armed forces remember they are someones loved ones too!

Yes, there are still a lot of people here ignoring the isolation measures. I see this as the biggest problem here at the moment.

Still, they've closed the pubs, clubs, cinemas, footy, etc which will undoubtedly help. Plus there's the added bonus that it'll save me a heap of money!

Strangely, they've allowed hairdressers to remain open!  ???

You can't cut somebody's hair from 1.5m away!!

Been self isolating for a bit due to Asthma, but then again we mostly self isolate anyway.

Tara has been getting the veg planted and trying to teach other people how to keep and manage 3 months food properly as she grew up in the American south and has always done that. I've been building layouts, building new retro-computer boards (my other crazy hobby) and trying to get my order for components in before I can't get any more (fingers crossed).

And the cat has been disobeying social distancing rules and getting into a fight...

Plus gaming. Currently playing some of the Skyrim mods and it has be said that right now Skyrim seems a lot less dangerous.. nothing worse than dragons to worry about 8)

Quote from: Bealman on March 23, 2020, 10:27:39 PM
Yes, there are still a lot of people here ignoring the isolation measures. I see this as the biggest problem here at the moment.

Still, they've closed the pubs, clubs, cinemas, footy, etc which will undoubtedly help. Plus there's the added bonus that it'll save me a heap of money!

Strangely, they've allowed hairdressers to remain open!  ???

You can't cut somebody's hair from 1.5m away!!

Yes you can: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8073373/Hairdressers-use-metre-long-brushes-serve-customers-avoid-catching-coronavirus.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8073373/Hairdressers-use-metre-long-brushes-serve-customers-avoid-catching-coronavirus.html)

Following the PM's announcement here in the UK, I'd just like to welcome everyone else who will be joining the isolation clan as from midnight GMT tonight.

Only together but alone can we fight this pandemic.

Quote from: ntpntpntp on March 23, 2020, 06:29:56 PM
Whilst I've not been officially classed a "vulnerable" yet I have agreed with the boss to do long term working from home during the day with network connection to my office 'pooter.  I then relinquish the room to junior overnight so he can carry on with his Commercial Music course final year stuff as best he can with Uni closed down. 

The train room is now full of large amps, speaker cabinets, drum kits and bass guitars so not likely to be much progress on the layout for a while - you can just see it at the back. It was due to be at NGSE too!  Yes that 8 string monster on the left is a bass not a standard guitar!


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/5885-230320182641.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89405)

Great photo! Is that a scitar?

Quote from: Bob Tidbury on March 23, 2020, 06:33:15 PM
We have been  in self isolation since last Monday as I am 73 suffer with high blood pressure and diabetes ,and Val did have a head injury and was in hospital two years ago with pnuemonia and  still has chest problems so we are at high risk  ,our son works for Chiltern Railways at the ticket office at Gerards Cross and it is now open plan with NO GLASS partition between him and the customers so is only 18 inches away from their faces ,he didn't want to risk bringing the virus back to us even if he didn't get it he could be a carrier .
Both him and our eldest son have been really worried but have been really good bringing essential supplies to us and leaving them on the top step and having a chat with us from at least 2 metres away .
My wife has been sowing ,doing colouring and spring cleaning ,I have been keeping her supplied with tea and sandwiches ,doing the hoovering  watching tele , D V Ds and keeping in touch with friends and playing solitaire .
AND WE HAVNT HAD A RAISED VOICE YET .
SO to everyone please STAY IN , and STAY SAFE  this NOT just having a bad cold this is very serious ,and should not be taken lightly it's NO JOKE it's a killer .
Regards and best wishes
Bob and Val Tidbury

Glad to hear that Bob! My Mum is a similar age and has decided to do loads of gardening and decorating!

Quote from: stevewalker on March 23, 2020, 10:32:06 PM

Quote from: Bealman on March 23, 2020, 10:27:39 PM
Yes, there are still a lot of people here ignoring the isolation measures. I see this as the biggest problem here at the moment.

Still, they've closed the pubs, clubs, cinemas, footy, etc which will undoubtedly help. Plus there's the added bonus that it'll save me a heap of money!

Strangely, they've allowed hairdressers to remain open!  ???

You can't cut somebody's hair from 1.5m away!!

Yes you can: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8073373/Hairdressers-use-metre-long-brushes-serve-customers-avoid-catching-coronavirus.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8073373/Hairdressers-use-metre-long-brushes-serve-customers-avoid-catching-coronavirus.html)

My flabber is ghasted  :worried:

Having been working from home for the past 5 years or so, and been very much otherwise tied to domestic by a small but very active child, so far my lifestyle changes have been minimal...

have decided not to go to my local model rail club working day tomorrow, dont think anyone else will be there, given i am the youngest at 65 who attend the Wed working day, so will have to devote the day to working on my own layout.

Nowt wrong with that! I was out in the garage this morning and actually assessed the situation on mine for the first time in probably 12 months!  :thumbsup:

Today is the first time I have intentionally missed Tuesday golf in a very long time.

Read some Selwyn Hughes and listened to some Hans Zimmer.

Stay safe, stay sane and stay at home.

Mark

Quote from: Bealman on March 23, 2020, 10:27:39 PM
Strangely, they've allowed hairdressers to remain open!  ???

You can't cut somebody's hair from 1.5m away!!

There's always these;

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/7182-240320064813.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89420)

>:D

Quote from: chrism on March 24, 2020, 06:48:44 AM
There's always these;

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/7182-240320064813.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89420)

Useful for careful trimming of all sorts of "hard to reach" hair, one imagines :worried:

Quote from: DarrwestLU6 on March 23, 2020, 10:51:11 PM

Quote from: ntpntpntp on March 23, 2020, 06:29:56 PM

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Great photo! Is that a scitar?

Nope, 8 string extended range bass guitar.    My lad plays death metal in one of his bands, and funk/party in another!   The more strings the better as far as he's concerned: if lefty versions of the outlandish 15 string basses you can find on the net were easily available/affordable he'd be ordering one!

Quite ready  :)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/5731-240320100442.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89421)

Quote from: Invicta Alec on March 23, 2020, 07:17:14 PM
At 69 years and 7 months old I'm under the age limit - just! Combine that however with my triple bypass operation in 2018 then I'm classifying myself as vulnerable!
Haven't been outside for eight days until this morning whereupon I had to pop my repeat prescription into the local doctors surgery.

@Invicta Alec (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5868)
I'm 3 years shy of the '3 score years and ten' and had a triple bypass in 2016. If my meds reduce my immune system then I might be 'vulnerable' but I don't consider myself such at the moment.
I have to shop tomorrow so will be running the gauntlet at Tesco if they have anything on the shelves, but have been self isolated for almost 10 days now. My prescriptions are ordered on line using...........
https://app.patientaccess.com/login

My local pharmacy does deliver but, whilever I can I'll collect and leave the service for those far more needy then me.
Have only seen relatives through windows and haven't hugged Mum in 10 days :(

I've loads of reading material, masses of railway DVDs and something called the N Gauge Forum to keep me occupied :) :) :)

I quite like self isolating - I have been doing it since I retired 15 months ago. I have to take Louisa to and from work every day, (Monday to Friday), she works in what would be called in the UK a small supermarket, so we are okay when it comes to getting bits of shopping. I have curtailed my trips out every week, especially as my favourite place for a bit of breakfast, Coffey's', is shut "until further notice" - missing the weekly toast and coffee is bad enough, but, I can not get us our weekly treat of strawberry tarts!  :'(. I am now only going to Carrick when I need to fill up the car, which was every 2 weeks with the Astra, but now I have got the new Toyota Hybrid, I don't know when my next trip to the garage will be. Still, the car has that many 'bells and whistles', it is going to take me a while to learn what every thing does! And I must get on with the station building!! Take care everyone.

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 24, 2020, 10:13:58 AM

My prescriptions are ordered on line using...........
https://app.patientaccess.com/login

I've loads of reading material, masses of railway DVDs and something called the N Gauge Forum to keep me occupied :) :) :)

Yes, I'm aware of the on-line ordering thingy, but I'm using my repeat prescription posting as an excuse for a little walk. It is only once every 4 weeks though. Yesterday at the surgery they had put a temporary cardboard box in the entrance foyer for prescriptions and wedged the door open. It wasn't even necessary to enter the building.

Boredom is not an issue for me either. Apart from the layout I've got my Casio music keyboard (am pretty hopeless) my chess playing computer (am reasonably good) and all my astronomy books (lifelong hobby, fabulous subject).

I'm expecting members of this forum to report rapid progress in the modelling of their layouts!

Alec.

I've been on the "rock & roll" since last year. I'm used to being "home alone" but I'm having to get used to "'er at work" becoming "'er indoors".

I spend a few hours a day looking for work on the internet, as per usual.

The local small supermarket is just across the road so I go there whenever the booze runs out.

Quote from: dannyboy on March 24, 2020, 10:47:07 AM

.............but now I have got the new Toyota Hybrid........... the car has that many 'bells and whistles', it is going to take me a while to learn what every thing does!

And I must get on with the station building!!

My Toyota Yaris is festooned with gizmos. Built in Sat.Nav, reversing camera, works out for itself when the lights should come on etc. etc. and it sits on the driveway doing precisely nothing! Its done a four mile round trip to Sainsburys in the last nine days  :(

And yes! You really must do the station building!

Alec.

@ntpntpntp (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5885)
If he likes lots of srings why not get him a theorbo, might need a bit bigger boot on the car though ::)

I have now been told to stay at home today, and report for work tomorrow and Thursday. There are 3 on my shift so basically, we are down to a legal requirement of 2 persons for safety.

Looks Luke I will not be working every 3rd day.

Mizzy Gizzy also WFH today....

I need some clarification. This morning I received a text message from the NHS.

"You must follow Government advice and stay home. You may receive more detailed advice re your health condition soon. Visit www.nhs.uk (http://www.nhs.uk)"

Now I think I'm pretty smart with a PhD but I can't tell if

(1) this message is just reiterating the same as the other messages from UK Gov that I've been getting about new rules in force now about not going out, or
(2) I am in the 1.5M that REALLY should not go out and this is the NHS telling me in a roundabout way to self isolate.

I've been reviewing the list of conditions of folk who are at risk and I didnt think I was in that list.
I'm under 60 (just), have high BP and take statins, and I have a tickly lung that was really exacerbated by our building extension and all the plastering two years ago.
But I didnt consider that high risk.

So should I expect to get a much sterner text message if I REALLY shouldn't go out?

Bob

Listening to BBC news this morning, evrybody in the UK, (with a mobile 'phone) is getting a message about the restrictions. As I understand what you have put Bob, that message is the one that everybody is getting and if you are in the 1.5 million at particular risk, you will be contacted again. I might be wrong though, we have nothing like that in Ireland - yet.

Addit: Just found this @Bob G (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1517)
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52017451 (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52017451)

Mrs C & I are into our 6th day of self-isolation as she woke up last week with a temperature and a tickly cough, which has completely disappeared now, but seeing as she's a Nurse working for a Private Company that does Access to Care requests and also helps out on the 111 helpdesk, then her place told her to self-isolate, fortunately Mrs C has been provided with a laptop that enables her to log into work and do her stuff remotely but she has to squirrel herslef away as she's taking persoanl details, she did say "Oh I can use your desk for that" to which my answer was "Like %^&* you can, sit in the bedroom and do it  ;) ;) "

As I work for someone who supports the Emergency Services Communications kit it meant that I had to stay home as well for the obligatory 14 days, which considering I've just had 6 weeks off after my knee op, is driving me insane. I can support the rest of the team by phone and giving Tech advice where I can and manageing their cases and case updates.

My daughter & her boyfriend work for Sainsbury's so they've had to stay home as well.

Oh well I'm sure I can find something useful to do  ;) ;) and after the 2 weeks we'll all be back at work as we are classed as essential workers.

Cheers

Neal.

Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 24, 2020, 11:38:03 AM
@ntpntpntp (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5885)
If he likes lots of srings why not get him a theorbo, might need a bit bigger boot on the car though ::)

I'm sure Samsung will do one that folds in half for easy carrying ;)

Quote from: AndyRA on March 24, 2020, 10:05:05 AM
Quite ready  :)

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@AndyRA (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5731) - what a fantastic shot of the railway! Brings back memories as I grew up in Harrow...

My end, first day of total lock down, I did get out for a run in the fields with the dog (as permitted). Saw a few other people, everyone is keeping their distance up here in the countryside. Which is sensible. We've started digging up our garden now to grow vegetables too...

Quote from: Bob G on March 24, 2020, 11:50:02 AM
I need some clarification. This morning I received a text message from the NHS.

"You must follow Government advice and stay home. You may receive more detailed advice re your health condition soon. Visit www.nhs.uk (http://www.nhs.uk)"

Now I think I'm pretty smart with a PhD but I can't tell if

(1) this message is just reiterating the same as the other messages from UK Gov that I've been getting about new rules in force now about not going out, or
(2) I am in the 1.5M that REALLY should not go out and this is the NHS telling me in a roundabout way to self isolate.

I've been reviewing the list of conditions of folk who are at risk and I didnt think I was in that list.
I'm under 60 (just), have high BP and take statins, and I have a tickly lung that was really exacerbated by our building extension and all the plastering two years ago.
But I didnt consider that high risk.

So should I expect to get a much sterner text message if I REALLY shouldn't go out?

Bob

not had anything from NHS, and as both SWMBO and I are both over 70+, and she has COPD, I'd have thought we would have.

last message was from the surgery, on the 15th, just informed of changes re appointments and visiting the surgery, ie phone first, prescriptions in outer post box, not the normal one inside.

Agree with darrwestlu6. Quick walk to chemist for mum and myself and milk  sitting home emailing clients colleagues then its trains  and a bath to relax later

Quote from: DarrwestLU6 on March 24, 2020, 12:32:18 PM

We've started digging up our garden now to grow vegetables too...

Have you worked out where the Anderson Shelter is going?

Quote from: Bob G on March 24, 2020, 11:50:02 AM
I need some clarification. This morning I received a text message from the NHS.

"You must follow Government advice and stay home. You may receive more detailed advice re your health condition soon. Visit www.nhs.uk (http://www.nhs.uk)"

Now I think I'm pretty smart with a PhD but I can't tell if

(1) this message is just reiterating the same as the other messages from UK Gov that I've been getting about new rules in force now about not going out, or
(2) I am in the 1.5M that REALLY should not
I'm under 60 (just), have high BP and take statins, and I have a tickly lung that was really exacerbated by our building extension and all the plastering two years ago.
But I didnt consider that high risk.

So should I expect to get a much sterner text message if I REALLY shouldn't go out?

Bob

Hi Bob, the wording of the text indicates that you will most likely receive a letter from the NHS, and as far as I have read, this means the NHS consider you to be one of the at risk group.
Judging by what you say about your lung condition alone, and the fact that COVID-19 is directly attacking the lungs, I would personally also reach that conclusion.

As in all things with this virus, better that they, and you err on the side of caution.

I'm 67, have asthma and a troublesome immune system, and though I'm not a  recipient of a letter or even a text from the NHS - at least so far - I'm keeping a very, very low social profile, and I would advise anybody with a lung condition, no matter how mild, to take the greatest care.

Stay well.

Quote from: dannyboy on March 24, 2020, 12:57:50 PM

Quote from: DarrwestLU6 on March 24, 2020, 12:32:18 PM

We've started digging up our garden now to grow vegetables too...

Have you worked out where the Anderson Shelter is going?

You won't find one for love nor money. I think it's a result of panic buying ;) , and anyway, the Metal Factors have all shut up shop for the duration.

As for growing my own veg, as we do each year, there has been some real  panic buying hereabouts as the three sellers near me have very little to choose from. Can you eat Forget-me-nots and Marigolds?  :hmmm:

Following wee Jimmy Krankies the Scottish First Ministers statement last night and today, the boss and one other will go in Tues & Fri to deal with deliveries and ship any off the shelf equipment, our IT guy is getting the broadband in the new offices sorted, accounts lass is already at home, and I will be dealing with tech support via email whilst a couple of others will monitor incoming orders and emails.
Don't know how long it will last, Della has her office set up on the kitchen table and I spent a few hours in the garden this morning. Feet up now  :D

Quote from: daffy on March 24, 2020, 01:11:41 PM

Quote from: dannyboy on March 24, 2020, 12:57:50 PM

Quote from: DarrwestLU6 on March 24, 2020, 12:32:18 PM

We've started digging up our garden now to grow vegetables too...

Have you worked out where the Anderson Shelter is going?

You won't find one for love nor money. I think it's a result of panic buying ;) , and anyway, the Metal Factors have all shut up shop for the duration.

As for growing my own veg, as we do each year, there has been some real  panic buying hereabouts as the three sellers near me have very little to choose from. Can you eat Forget-me-nots and Marigolds?  :hmmm:

Weirdly, what my supermarket is overflowing with are vegetables! At least they're edible - toilet paper ain't

Quote from: Bealman on March 24, 2020, 02:38:54 PM

Weirdly, what my supermarket is overflowing with are vegetables! At least they're edible - toilet paper ain't

You mean you've never had a bog roll? They make a change from ham rolls.  ;)

 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Actually, you've just reminded me I've still got a big leg ham that I won in the Christmas ham raffle down the club out in the laundry fridge, that I'd completely forgotten about.

Thanks for that, mate!  :thumbsup:

I really had forgotten about it!

you keep your laundry in a fridge .. :cold:

i've heard of cold feet, but cold  :censored: no way  :smiley-laughing:

Quote from: class37025 on March 24, 2020, 03:23:38 PM
you keep your laundry in a fridge .. :cold:

He's under the impression he'll look cool :no:

Quote from: daffy on March 24, 2020, 01:04:59 PM

Quote from: Bob G on March 24, 2020, 11:50:02 AM
I need some clarification. This morning I received a text message from the NHS.

"You must follow Government advice and stay home. You may receive more detailed advice re your health condition soon. Visit www.nhs.uk (http://www.nhs.uk)"

Hi Bob, the wording of the text indicates that you will most likely receive a letter from the NHS, and as far as I have read, this means the NHS consider you to be one of the at risk group.

I caught a brief glimpse of an example text sent to the vulnerable types on the news earlier, the wording was more targeted, along the lines of "You have been identified as being in the vulnerable category..."

Quote from: Bealman on March 24, 2020, 03:13:18 PM
I've still got a big leg ham that I won in the Christmas ham raffle down the club out in the laundry fridge!

Why on earth would you put your laundry in a fridge? ???
And would you really put a leg of ham in with your underdungees? :sick2:
We need to know these things as others have pointed out.

I would assume this to be 'local dialect' @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) ???

Laundry fridge in Uk = a fridge for your laundry

Laundry fridge in Oz = a fridge in the laundry (room) uk equivalent would be the fridge in the UTILITY room.

I rather think the fridge in the club laundry is just one of many, with one in the kitchen, one in the lounge, one on the veranda, one in the......

In fact, one wherever you need to keep a few tinnies close to hand.

:beers:

And some meat. :o

Yeah.... I guess I should have said, "out in the other fridge which happens to be located in the laundry"

Everyone happy now?  ;) ;D

Quote from: exmouthcraig on March 24, 2020, 03:57:21 PM
I would assume this to be 'local dialect' @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) ???

Laundry fridge in Uk = a fridge for your laundry

Laundry fridge in Oz = a fridge in the laundry (room) uk equivalent would be the fridge in the UTILITY room.

@exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099) Don't go making excuses for him, Craig. After all, he did originate in this country until he got free passage on a boat to Oz >:D

Does he still fit in the blue suit with 🔝this way up?????

Quote from: dannyboy on March 24, 2020, 12:57:50 PM

Quote from: DarrwestLU6 on March 24, 2020, 12:32:18 PM

We've started digging up our garden now to grow vegetables too...

Have you worked out where the Anderson Shelter is going?

It does feel a bit like that, doesn't it. We are calling this "Operation Blitz".

At this rate when will Hogwarts be worked upon ?

Quote from: class37025 on March 24, 2020, 05:05:35 PM
though we'd stopped deporting undesirables for free,

put the price up to £10  :smiley-laughing:

not sure if that was self catering though  :hmmm:

They'd hiked the price up to fifty quid by the time I got round to it  >:( ;)

There was a time you could get there for free

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/2855-290519164603.jpeg)

(I know I've posted it before but thought it was  relevant to the thread)

Quote from: Bealman on March 24, 2020, 09:41:17 PM

Quote from: class37025 on March 24, 2020, 05:05:35 PM
though we'd stopped deporting undesirables for free,

put the price up to £10  :smiley-laughing:

not sure if that was self catering though  :hmmm:

They'd hiked the price up to fifty quid by the time I got round to it  >:( ;)

sorry, but you wouldn't get me to move to aus for £50  :smiley-laughing:

You couldn't anyway, borders shut  :D

Now the power has been cut, just as I was about to make breakfast.  :veryangry:

EDIT: It lasted less than an hour, thankfully.

Quote from online paper:
"Some people have been doing things like being told they're a positive case and going into the chemist or the supermarket on the way home." ???

Don't forget that approximately half the population has an IQ below average.

Sadly a global phenomenon, I just read about a Japanese family who took advantage of the school closures here to go on a holiday to ... Spain ... and they were tested on reentry to Japan but didn't want to miss their connecting flight so went home without waiting for the results of the tests, and at least one family member tested positive.

The company I work for, published  the government list of vulnerable and extremely vulnerable. They said if you have anything on it go home on full pay for the full 12week duration.  Well that's 13percent of the time till I'm due to retire,  so it's  a practice retirement for me .

Trips out, 
I'll need to go to the supermarket once a week, probably the most dangerous thing to do.

I need to go to the motorboat ten miles away to maintain the 25 batteries, but I can do that without going near anyone.

The Ben the border collie  needs his long walk, but we live out in the country side,  we rarely see anyone on the normal route.

I may go to the MRC again as last time it was just me there.

At home I have work to do:
on the railway shed, finishing the  workshop end.
Garage,  rewiring it, the previous owners put sockets in the lighting circuit!!!
The sailing boat, rebuilding it, 
Plus the usual backlog of house and garden maintenance to do.

Now the frost has cleared time to put the overalls on.

Good luck with it all!

I agree that going to the supermarket is probably the worst thing. I went to our local yesterday and felt pretty uneasy. In fact, we're looking at home delivery.

At least us modellers have got plenty to occupy ourselves with. You've got your boat as well, and I've got Arduino  :thumbsup:

Made a shopping trip to Tescos at 07.15 this morning. In the main store there was no bread, no milk and no loo rolls. They supposedly restock the shelves at night and limit everyone to 2 items of all products so I can only deduce they are not receiving 'normal' deliveries. Then went to their petrol station to fill up and found, in the payment office 2 x 4pts milk so I snaffled one (I'm not greedy)
I now have to take Mum what I could get her from her list and then bang myself up at home again until shopping calls again.

Well we recieved the news this morning that our feed companies are closing the doors, mainly because they are run by over 70yo and their staff have all refused to come to work, sensible decision or not I dont know.

This has meant that we have been on the phone to them for 40mins working out what stock they have left and what's available to us.

I am now emptying the trailer to get there for my allocated loading time of 11.15. Managed to get 4 pallets of bits and pieces so we hope that it's enough to see us through  :-\

The other thing is, I have ended up with so much time with not a great deal to do with it. This is a situation I have NEVER been in, theres plenty of stuff that doesnt get done because I don't have the time but by 11 o'clock yesterday I was bored and couldn't believe that it was ONLY 11am. It's hard work making things last, all the snigs of jobs, gates not swinging right, catches not working, water troughs over flowing all sorted.

At 16.30 rather then shove the muck heap up I actually emptied every trace of it, even sweeping the tops of the concrete walls off, the barns are well stocked and tidy, think I'll be cleaning the tractors today!!!!

4hrs of work have already been done, the suns up early at the moment so its nice to be up and about at 5.30. The roads are unbelievably quiet and it's almost like a summer sunday.

It's a very strange world. No traffic drone, no aircraft overhead and very few horn pips from the trains over the crossings.

Quote from: exmouthcraig on March 25, 2020, 09:50:26 AM

It's a very strange world. No traffic drone, no aircraft overhead and very few horn pips from the trains over the crossings.

The whole thing is very much like a science fiction film. In Leyland it's maybe not as noticeable as, rush hours apart, our roads are not hugely busy but I can imagine in any of our cities (providing self isolation is being observed correctly) the difference is enormous.

Quote from: exmouthcraig on March 25, 2020, 09:50:26 AM
think I'll be cleaning the tractors today!!!!

Flippin' 'eck, you MUST be bored  :D

Not at all, one of the finest fleets of John Deeres in Leicestershire  :D


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/5099-250320115708.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89480)

4 to go !!!!!

Now that is one uber cool tractor. :thumbsup:

Got a bigger better one than that George!!! She might get photoed later.

This is the flagship of the fleet!!!
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/5099-250320125110.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89481)
This is as she rolled off the truck, we were a bit wet and he couldn't get up to the shed so I had to drive her, hence the muddy wheels before even 3hrs on the clock!!!!

Oxford have done a real good job with that one, it is N Gauge I assume? :smiley-laughing:

Quote from: TrevL on March 25, 2020, 12:47:12 PM
Oxford have done a real good job with that one, it is N Gauge I assume? :smiley-laughing:

It is very detailed - do the lights work?  :)

Hi everybody, not sure if I am in the right section but just wanted to wish everyone best wishes and hope that none of you succumb to the virus and that the repercussions are minimal for you. Our train club has shut its doors to protect us as we are all getting on in years and duty of care flags are waving. Unsure about how long this situation will last but take care all of you and will speak again soon.
Cheers
Steve from downunder. :beers:

Well we here in Japan have been enviously wondering when the latest hit series "The Lockdown" will be reaching our shores, but at long last the powers-that-be have arranged for a pilot episode to be run in Tokyo this weekend. I'm sure if it's a success we'll get the full series. Off to stock up on popcorn before the rush starts.

Here on the left coast things are pretty quiet (although there were a bunch of idiots in Vancouver, luckily they're a 2 hr ferry ride away from me).  People are mostly staying at home. I'm a programmer and we've been working at home for more than a week now.  We try and get out for a walk everyday and when we do see someone, people kinda do the 2 meter quickstep (a new dance craze maybe?).  My wife works from home all the time and is lonely a lot as a result so this has a silver lining for us, we are all together.  Daughter has set herself a busy schedule (including schoolwork she uses online classes for her academic stuff normally so no change there really, and she's watching and following along with the streaming lessons put out by a lot of really talented dancer around the world for her Ballet (we converted our carport into a studio for her so she's lucky she can still dance)

One thing I'd like to add, a bit of advice to those working from home, something that both my wife and I get trapped by sometimes

Don't work MORE than you would normally at work when at home.. its easy to fall into that habit and we all have to look after ourselves.

We're not totally locked down here in BC yet but its coming, our provincial medical officer seems to have her head screwed on the right way so that is a bit of a re-assurance, and just to show that we're all in this together, our local paper-mill is working double shifts as its one of the few that uses the kind of wood pulp that goes into surgical masks etc. None of its output goes to Canada, but other locations in the world.  This is a time to help each other globally even as we distance ourselves locally

G

Best of luck to everyone and stay healthy

My wife got sent home, she is a caregiver for the elderly,

someone at work tested positive, we got a letter telling us to continue to wash our hands regularly, monitor our health and report to the medical department any symptoms should they arise (is it the virus or allergies?).

The company assures us they have our health and safety as their utmost priority, but we are still to show up for our assigned work, failure to do so is not an option

I went walking today, essential chemist for mother and back to drop into the box I've screwed on her door   quick run into tesco 4 items, polite lad by the baskets would you like the handles cleaned. Yes please. 2 minutes later. Thanks tesco.  Helpful manager in aisle as couldn't find an item, back to plan b. Meds delivered. Into cooperative store, one item, noticed tape on floor , waited my turn, these 20 somethings on phone pinned in hand to ear. Sales staff refused to serve as no I'd. He rushed outside. My turn. Payment being made, numpty runs in . Sales assistant refuses to serve him. I said please respect my  space
Assistant asks him to wait behind line. Does he ? No
He did not respect me or her. What do I do. Thank the sales lady. Leave quietly. Let the sales manager in store argue. It's all of our responsibility to follow the rules
I walk out the store. Police turn up. Hi. We say hi, give space
Sales assistant called the officers over. I heard my mate was in the queue. Numpty may get a fine . He got a talking to

quick trip to chemists today for repeat prescription for SWMBO, the missing items now in.Tesco's on the way back ...

no pasta
no cooking oil
no eggs
1 x towel roll per customer according to sign on shelf,  :censored: took x 3 and got away with it
virtually no meat / chicken etc
beer / wine / spirits mullered
only expensive loo rolls
very little tinned goods
bread and milk ok

but full shelves of essentials, ie
chocolate easter eggs
chocolate easter bunnies

most of the items that are coming in seem to be finest what a surprise.

store opens at 06:00, over 70s from 9:00 - 10:00, by which time shelves virtually empty of the things most people are short of.

so instead of shopping as few times as possible I'll be back again in a couple of days to try to get the things I've not been able to get for the last 3 weeks.

saw at least three 'couples' walking round taking x3 of same items, then through different till, but saw at least one lot loading into same car.

so while the majority of people seem to be obeying the rules, there are still a few greedy  :censored: stockpiling.

Had a message from Premier Inns telling me that hotels in the UK are closed until 13 April.

@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)

To ensure more people have access to everyday essentials, we have introduced a storewide restriction of 3 items per customer on every product line and removed multi-buy promotions.

We have more stock coming into stores every day, with up to double the usual amounts of key essentials arriving – but we need everyone's help: please buy only what you need, so that there is enough for everyone.

Above is a truncated excerpt from a mail I received from the Tesco CEO this morning but note it is perfectly OK to have 3 items. When I got to the till this morning with 3 packs of something I was promptly told I could only have 2 (I didn't know I had the mail until I got home)
Of course, that does not stop the Family Selfish from turning up mob handed in their Chelsea Tractor. Dad goes in and gets 3, them Mum goes in and gets 3, then son, then daughter etc. Until proper rationing is brought in the Selfish will always win out.
As for Tesco stating they have more stock coming in every day, maybe they should know you can't wipe your backside with Easter Eggs (although that hasn't been proven as far as I know :uneasy:)

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 25, 2020, 11:44:30 AM
The whole thing is very much like a science fiction film. In Leyland it's maybe not as noticeable as, rush hours apart, our roads are not hugely busy but I can imagine in any of our cities (providing self isolation is being observed correctly) the difference is enormous.

Actually to me it feels like the mid 1970s except back then we had 3 channels of TV and there was something to watch. It's lovely and quiet and you hear the sound of the odd car not the continual distant drone.

(Ok we have the internet now which is a distinct improvement)

Alan

There is at least some sign of sense Morrisons are now doing boxes so they can scale stuff out and ship a lot more stuff to a lot more people based on actual stock. Sooner the rest do this the better

https://www.morrisons.com/food-boxes/ (https://www.morrisons.com/food-boxes/)

If the stores had everything we needed then 3 of each wouldn't be too much of a hardship but, as it is, we have to go more frequently than my normal once a week thus increasing my exposure to Covid-19. I really do think it's more a case of when rather than if my luck runs out.

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 25, 2020, 04:06:28 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)

As for Tesco stating they have more stock coming in every day, maybe they should know you can't wipe your backside with Easter Eggs (although that hasn't been proven as far as I know :uneasy:)

while I'm up for most challenges, I think that might be one too far  :hmmm:

also, hairy beast is very fond of chocolate, though he's not allowed it, so perhaps if you're around here and see someone being chased across the fields by a husky trying to lick his derriere, it might be that I gave in and tried it  :-[

I wasn't required at work yesterday, and told to say at home.

However, I'm back this afternoon for half a shift. I now have a letter which states that I am a Key Worker, 'delivering critical tasks for HMG', from the Operations Director.

Last time I had something similar, was during the tanker drivers' strike in the 90's. I had a document authorising me to get fuel from Shell garages....

our local Tesco has a lady at the entrance with a squirty bottle and a roll of paper towel, offering to clean your trolley handle  :thumbsup:

but she has no mask, and stands next you, and thousands of others, to clean your trolley handle, which you've already pushed across the carpark from the trolley stores  :thumbsdown:

and no alcohol hand cleaner for you to use after she's 'cleaned' your trolley handles.

so, I've picked up a trolley and got the virus on my hands, shes's then been within a metre of me to clean the trolley handles, and I've then put my contaminated hands back on the handles, and when I finish with it someone else will take it, and go through the same rigamarole.

what  :censored: thought that one up ?

so, a good idea in theory, but the practice hasn't been thought through, and also she has been placed at risk.

needless to say, not a manager in sight on the shop floor  :hmmm:

needless to say, I'm sure any NBC instructor would have a field day with this.

Quote from: class37025 on March 25, 2020, 04:51:55 PM

needless to say, I'm sure any NBC instructor would have a field day with this.

Well give we known the virus is there I would have thought she would be wearing full romeo five dress banging mess tins together to warn others at the very least....
:confused1:

Quote from: crewearpley40 on March 25, 2020, 03:03:23 PM
I went walking today, essential chemist for mother and back to drop into the box I've screwed on her door   quick run into tesco 4 items, polite lad by the baskets would you like the handles cleaned. Yes please. 2 minutes later. Thanks tesco.  Helpful manager in aisle as couldn't find an item, back to plan b. Meds delivered. Into cooperative store, one item, noticed tape on floor , waited my turn, these 20 somethings on phone pinned in hand to ear. Sales staff refused to serve as no I'd. He rushed outside. My turn. Payment being made, numpty runs in . Sales assistant refuses to serve him. I said please respect my  space
Assistant asks him to wait behind line. Does he ? No
He did not respect me or her. What do I do. Thank the sales lady. Leave quietly. Let the sales manager in store argue. It's all of our responsibility to follow the rules
I walk out the store. Police turn up. Hi. We say hi, give space
Sales assistant called the officers over. I heard my mate was in the queue. Numpty may get a fine . He got a talking to

I'd have tasered the little  :censored:

might have restarted brain, but wouldn't hold breath.

Quote from: acko22 on March 25, 2020, 06:36:00 PM

Quote from: class37025 on March 25, 2020, 04:51:55 PM

needless to say, I'm sure any NBC instructor would have a field day with this.

Well give we known the virus is there I would have thought she would be wearing full romeo five dress banging mess tins together to warn others at the very least....
:confused1:

don't suppose you're available to run courses for Tesco [and other] numpties are you ?  :laughabovepost:

I expect I'll be greeted by this next time I go down there ....
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/6c/70/53/6c70531d0afe906e0388f6c9b88b2194.jpg

Dad used to work for Tesco as a Health and Safety officer in their distribution warehouses at DIRFT, needless to say no matter how many times management were told that their plans were back to front and Ill thought out, regardless of how many times they were told a simple changing of methods would of yielded better results the deaf ears were always turned.

You just cant educate some people, and most of those manage Tesco simply because they believe that the WHITE piece of paper held in front of them is BLACK because the man at the top says so!!

Terry is probably still laughing on his yacht!!!

Sounds like a manager I knew "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up!"

Quote from: class37025 on March 25, 2020, 06:46:09 PM
don't suppose you're available to run courses for Tesco [and other] numpties are you ?  :laughabovepost:

As long as it involves a trip the the chamber.... :'(

no probs,

I can still remember my number ...

and I know which way to hold my respirator when I take it off so the instructor doesn't sprinkle ... fullers earth.... in it  :smiley-laughing: :'(

Quote from: class37025 on March 25, 2020, 07:13:07 PM
no probs,

I can still remember my number ...

and I know which way to hold my respirator when I take it off so the instructor doesn't sprinkle ... fullers earth.... in it  :smiley-laughing: :'(

That why you ask for section battle drills  :sick2:

Quote from: exmouthcraig on March 25, 2020, 06:54:39 PM
Dad used to work for Tesco as a Health and Safety officer in their distribution warehouses at DIRFT, needless to say no matter how many times management were told that their plans were back to front and Ill thought out, regardless of how many times they were told a simple changing of methods would of yielded better results the deaf ears were always turned.
You just cant educate some people, and most of those manage Tesco simply because they believe that the WHITE piece of paper held in front of them is BLACK because the man at the top says so!!

That reminds me of when I worked at a warehouse and we started to get cable arriving on 8' drums, located centrally on the wagons because two were too wide to go side by side. We needed a larger forklift to be able to handle them properly so we ordered one.

The beancounters looked at what we had, looked at the size/weight of the drums and declared that we had 4 tonne forklifts so 4 tonnes shouldn't be a problem and cancelled the order. Our point that the 4 tonne forklift could only lift 4 tonnes at the root of the forks, not the tips fell on deaf ears. After several unsuccessful attempts to convince them, we came up with a plan.

We found out in advance when the Safety Rep was due to pay us a visit and arranged for one of these drums to arrive. Then we arranged that we wouldn't unload it until the rep. was in the yard. While he was watching we ran one forklift in from one side, another in from the other side, lifted the drum, drove the wagon out from the middle and lowered the drum to the ground.

The rep. went through the roof, listened to the story of how we'd been trying to get a larger forklift for months, made a couple of extremely annoyed phone calls - and our order for the bigger forklift was signed that day  :D

as always,
those that can ....do
those that can't ... manage :smiley-laughing:

Quotewe have introduced a storewide restriction of 3 items per customer on every product line and removed multi-buy promotion

unlike morrisons who have a  3 tins regardless of whats in them limit,so 3 tins of  tomatoes fine,1 tin of tomatoes 1 tin of baked beans  1 tin of mushy peas  and 1 tin  of soup not allowed.

I must in all honesty confess  :-[

when I came out of the RAF I joined the TA, the RAF didn't have reserves at that time, and went to Roussillon Barracks , Chichester on my recruits course...

came the day for the chamber, and I had some sort of mental block ...
'no 4'

'T4291244 Staff'  :thumbsup:

'WHAT THE *** WAS THAT?'

oh  :poop: my RAF number  :-X

exit the chamber gasping, coughing, eyes streaming  :-[ :'(

and then I had to do it again, properly, with my new ARMY number

Did a journey out today today for provisions and surprisingly Tesco was pretty well stocked, in the trolley of chosen produce and groceries a bottle of gin was carefully placed. Got home and the boss was impressed with my haul!

After all the groceries were stored in their appropriate storage compartments I poured myself a very large G&T for which to my horror I was confronted. Which I replied " Chill out I could be dead next week!" 

Anyone who knows me well will back me up. Live each day as it comes! She knows that as well!

So as each day as you wake don't panic, chill and live the moment. :thumbsup:

We too ventured into the wilds of Morrisons and Lidl today.
We set off early expecting a bun fight and long queues but......both stores were very quiet and extremely well stocked.
We found everything on our list (which included several items for our very elderly neighbours) except Oxtail Soup (which we were able to pick up in our village shop).
Maybe everyone is now stocked up to the gills.

I explained to SWMBO that alcohol is used to fight the virus, hence all the alcohol wipes and gels.

I merely apply it internally, then as I work, my sweat moves it to my skin, and I am therefore covered.

not sure if she believed me, I headed out to the shed shortly thereafter  :-[

Waitrose in Lincoln today: long queue to enter the medium-sized store as access was restricted to a small number at any one time, entry only possible for the next in line when someone else left after shopping. Probably no more than 20 shoppers inside as I selected from a good if reduced stock of fresh fruit and veg, meats, etc. I managed to get a good number of things we needed, including a few loo rolls, but tinned veg, bread, pasta and eggs were in short supply, so Tesco would have to be visited too.

Staff were smiling, helpful, kept a creditable social distance at all times and provided great service, including wiping trolley handles as you entered with sanitiser. The lady at the checkout told me they would soon be issuing visors to checkout staff, as well as screens around the till for mutual protection.

All in all an impressive way to handle the situation, and it was noticeable that nearly all shoppers were equally keeping to recommended guidelines in social distancing etc.

Short drive to Tesco's megastore. Time for another reality.

Car park busier, but still not too bad. No queues. No trolley handle cleaning service (I later learnt they had facilities - I didn't see any - to self clean). Staff looked harassed. Public were frequently less than careful in avoiding others. But the biggest problem, which I had to report instore before I left, and to Tesco HQ when I got home, was that floor staff seemed to have no idea about the concept of social distancing, despite a twice repeated announcement over their Tannoy system that Tesco were employing such a program!

With me taking care to keep the largest possible distance between myself and another human being, on at least ten occasions a member of their staff, usually busy shelf filling or moving trolley-loads of goods around, would position themselves very close to me. At one point I was selecting some tinned peas when a young Tesco shelf-filler knelt down right next to me and pushed a tray of tins onto the shelf level with, and right in front of, my knees.

Apoplectic I said loudly to this young lady  "I thought we were all supposed to be keeping a metre or two between us, social distancing?" A bewildered face looked up at me and replied "Um... er.... I don't know what.... um.... are we?" She then continued to push another tray onto the shelf. As I walked away another shelf-filling youngster appeared beside me, walked a pace or so beyond me then turned right across my path to put his tray of tins on a shelf.

By the time I had finished selecting what I needed and had used the self-scan and pay system, I must have been within 12 inches of at least ten Tesco staff members despite me doing my utmost to avoid any such encounters.

The contrast with Waitrose was acute.

When I got home I found an email from Tesco CEO Dave Lewis that told anout all the wonderful things they were doing for me and other customers and their staff to keep us all safe and happy.

I noted that, in this latest email, the words or the concept of social distancing was not mentioned at all. It has been in earlier email updates, but the timing of this omission was perfect.

Needless to say I was on the phone straight away to give one of Mr Lewis's minions my forthright opinion!


Waitrose may be expensive by comparison, but I'd rather pay their price than the one that might be levied by that visit to Tesco.

Most interesting. Our two major supermarkets, Coles and Woolworths, aren't too bad, with hand sanitizers, and people aren't too bad either at trying to keep their distance, but sometimes close proximity can't be helped, even if it's brief.

I don't like going in there at the moment!

In fact Mrs Bealman is considering online shopping and home delivery. Mind you, there's only the two of us, and we're not too badly off without hoarding.

We did bring a packet of toilet rolls back from Hobart as cabin baggage, though!  ;)

when I went down to the chemists today to collect SWMBO's prescription, I also gave them a box of assorted biscuits, "for when you get a chance to get a break and a cuppa"

you would have thought I'd tipped a box of £10 notes over the counter  :o

it appears that one person after another has been moaning because some items on prescriptions are not available, and it is obviously the pharmacy staff's fault.

please, give a thought to those pharmacy staff who are working so hard to fill prescriptions, and doing their very best to cope with supply problems.

IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT.

a thank you goes a long way in these circumstances.

We are having to self-isolate (because of our age), but Mrs Buffin said to me, for you that's no lifestyle change. She's right.

We put on latex gloves for the occasional trips to the supermarket. I was self-conscious about this first time, but of course no one notices  :no:

What a difference the sun makes. The garden is our lung. If it rains for any length of time, our mood may be very different.

Best wishes to everyone here, and I hope we all manage to swerve the virus.

Just taken advantage of the Costco Senior/disabled shopping hour. What a pleasure compared to normal shopping either there or at a stupid market. We were ushered in gently only a few at a time with mandated distance between each other, and shelves almost fully stocked. Only thing they were out of was hand sanitizer.

Quote from: railsquid on March 25, 2020, 02:20:05 PM
Well we here in Japan have been enviously wondering when the latest hit series "The Lockdown" will be reaching our shores, but at long last the powers-that-be have arranged for a pilot episode to be run in Tokyo this weekend. I'm sure if it's a success we'll get the full series. Off to stock up on popcorn before the rush starts.

Is that just central Tokyo or extending out to squid suburbia?

Quote from: DarrwestLU6 on March 26, 2020, 12:22:56 AM

Quote from: railsquid on March 25, 2020, 02:20:05 PM
Well we here in Japan have been enviously wondering when the latest hit series "The Lockdown" will be reaching our shores, but at long last the powers-that-be have arranged for a pilot episode to be run in Tokyo this weekend. I'm sure if it's a success we'll get the full series. Off to stock up on popcorn before the rush starts.

Is that just central Tokyo or extending out to squid suburbia?

I assume it applies to the entirety of the administrative Tokyo area, which is a roughly rectangular shape running east-west consisting of (from east to west) three sections of roughly equal size: the city proper (aka "23 special wards", which we are just on the western edge of), a section of conurbational spread, and a mountainous area.

Anyway overnight the supermarkets have predictably^[1] been stripped bare of anything non-perishable.

^[1] well I predicted it (as a result of which we did all our panic shopping last week  :beers: )

Quote from: railsquid on March 26, 2020, 12:41:55 AM

Quote from: DarrwestLU6 on March 26, 2020, 12:22:56 AM

Quote from: railsquid on March 25, 2020, 02:20:05 PM
Well we here in Japan have been enviously wondering when the latest hit series "The Lockdown" will be reaching our shores, but at long last the powers-that-be have arranged for a pilot episode to be run in Tokyo this weekend. I'm sure if it's a success we'll get the full series. Off to stock up on popcorn before the rush starts.

Is that just central Tokyo or extending out to squid suburbia?

I assume it applies to the entirety of the administrative Tokyo area, which is a roughly rectangular shape running east-west consisting of (from east to west) three sections of roughly equal size: the city proper (aka "23 special wards", which we are just on the western edge of), a section of conurbational spread, and a mountainous area.

Unsurprisingly the prefectures surrounding Tokyo are now getting in on the act, which makes sense as it's one huge sprawl of urbannness.

We're in lockdown as Fiona has a compromised immune system since losing her spleen.  Model railway supplies have been stockpiled laid in courtesy of assorted mail order suppliers and food stocks aren't a major issue thanks to the kindness of a couple of neighbours, one of whom actually works at our local Asda.

The only thing I'm short of is baseboard material for the trackbed on the new peninsula.  Mildly irritating, but not as irritating as being dead ;)

At least we both get out once a day for dog walking.  Keeping two chevrons apart is easy enough round here as few folk are about, it's not like fighting your way through a London park in the sunshine :no:

Even before the pandemic I don't think I ever met a soul whilst up Cockshutt Piece. No sniggering, that's the name of a small hill here in Wrockwardine Wood :P

Waking up this morning at around 06:30 ish which I do pretty much every day, the first thing that struck me was how peaceful it was, apart from the odd sparrow chirping I have never ever experienced a Thursday morning as quiet as this.

We live in the London borough of Havering and even on a Sunday morning there is noise pollution.

As an eleven year old I lived in Hambledon Surrey, even though that was rural there was always something that broke the silence, a passing tractor or maybe a BEA Vickers Vanguard droning above in the sky.

This morning was a unique experience which will always stay with me!

Cockshutt Piece. Yeah, right ;D

Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2020, 08:08:51 AM
Cockshutt Piece. Yeah, right ;D

I wonder what it was actually shut in to cause that painful piece?  :hmmm:

Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2020, 08:08:51 AM
Cockshutt Piece. Yeah, right ;D

Lots of other hills have such names on England, like the two I've walked up in the Lake District, Great Cockup and Little Cockup. :D

Quote from: daffy on March 25, 2020, 08:47:50 PM
Waitrose in Lincoln today... All in all an impressive way to handle the situation,

Glad to hear this, Mike.  Mrs Poppingham is a partner in Waitrose and they are going to great lengths to do things properly, including helping some of their very elderly customers in imaginative ways.

She's been isolating this week with mild symptoms and is back to work on Tuesday.  I, of course, get another week in isolation.

Anyway, I'll pass on your kind comments about Waitrose - that'll make her day.

All best wishes to you and yours.

John

And my best wishes to your wife from me too John. My stepson also works for JLP, in their London HQ helping to ensure all runs well. Last week he was temporarily reassigned from his working-from-home tele-conferencing, to stack the shelves in his local Waitrose in Newark.

He described it as "b***** hard work", which I feel many of the public need to appreciate.

Let's all give a round of applause to all those having to cope with us, the Great British Buying (and often complaining) Public.

And may your isolation pass and leave you well. :thumbsup:

Just been out for my permitted exercise with dog #1, it's lovely weather out there at the moment.

Very few folk about.  One young mother with a pram crossed the road to give me a wide berth, pretty much a normal day ;)

a few more people out in the fields today, many without dogs, but hairy beast was able to have a run, though the days score was a disappointing [for him]

husky 0 - mice 2
husky 0 - pigeons 1

it's a good thing he has a human to feed him or he'd starve  :smiley-laughing:

Quote from: class37025 on March 27, 2020, 12:35:38 PM
a few more people out in the fields today, many without dogs, but hairy beast was able to have a run, though the days score was a disappointing [for him]
husky 0 - mice 2
husky 0 - pigeons 1
it's a good thing he has a human to feed him or he'd starve  :smiley-laughing:

Or he'd learn to be a better hunter  :D

We have had 4 positive cases at work now, none in engine service though, the latest advice for us is keep up with social-distancing (don't know how when we have to interact with people one on one and the door isn't 6ft wide), wash hands as much as possible for at least 60secs each time, and they want to start taking our temps when we report for duty (it's a laser device thankfully 😬)

If you want a quick chuckle look on twitter for user Batho Boer, he demonstrates worki from home as a train conductor!!! (I was able to find it by googling twitter train conductor works from home), sorry I don't know how to link straight to it.

@tutenkhamunsleeping (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)
I hope you're picking up dog #1's #2 :laugh:

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2020, 01:52:18 PM
I hope you're picking up dog #1's #2 :laugh:

Fortunately dog #1 rarely deposits #2 upon acres wild, preferring the privacy of her own back garden.  Just as well, as I'm not sure if we're allowed within 2 meters of them at the moment ;)

The Navy are now in self isolation...........

latest in self isolation , so sorry Boris  :D - get well soon .

mr bachmann & the girls

Working from home: 1.5 weeks done.

Got to say impressed with employers IT, had little or no problems and accessing all my programs / files etc.

Other colleagues have complained about access but I suspect their own home connections.

Just returned from weekly supply run and pleasantly surprised local Tesco getting its act together compared to last week. Stock levels recovering, even seeing the mythical bog roll...

Skyline2uk

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
The Navy are now in self isolation...........

sorry those ships are not 2 metres apart, though I do note no crew on the exposed decks  :smiley-laughing:

At least Royalty are being (sort of) sensible............

This is the life.

Draught beer delivered to my door.
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Ok.....so not the greatest photo. The flowers aren't in the glass - honest.
And that was before I'd drunk any!

Must be quite viscous to stay in the glass at that angle, Martin :D
I like the carrykeg, though.

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
The Navy are now in self isolation...........

Apparently Uber drivers as well!  :)

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Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2020, 05:08:13 PM
Must be quite viscous to stay in the glass at that angle, Martin :D
I like the carrykeg, though.

Nah, like most other things in Cornwall, gravity's a bit odd down there  :D

Quote from: port perran on March 27, 2020, 05:03:11 PM
This is the life.
Draught beer delivered to my door.

Civilisation!  Sadly, I'm reconciled to being too far up country to qualify for a delivery.

Still, I have a few bottles of Marston's 'Pedigree'; £1.13 at Morrisions which the hordes missed in their quest for fizzy cooking lager and lavatory paper!

Cheers!

John

Went to the pharmacy today, 30 minute queue to pick up a prescription
Then went to Tesco, 20 minute queue, plenty on the shelves except pasta, tinned toms & beans. Got to the check out to be told I couldn't have 2 small packs of chicken, 2 small packs of mince, salmon, gammon joint and bacon. Only 3 of any fresh meat allowed. I could have totally snarled up the queue by replacing the mince and chicken with bigger packs but, rather than distress my fellow shoppers I made the point to customer services later that I clearly wasn't stock piling just doing my weekly shop and they have put me at further risk by making me come out and queue again for the rest of my meat, they didn't get it.
The snowflake ahead of me had (amongst others) 3 six packs of 1 litre bottled water, 3 packs of 24 toilet rolls and 3 boxes of 18 eggs, all got through no probs   :doh: ??? ???

Popped to M&S for a pizza, 20 minute queue, only wanted one pizza so reckon I dodged a bullet there  ::)

Quotesadly, I'm reconciled to being too far up country to qualify for a delivery.

Tempest brewery is in your neck of there woods,i highly recommend the mexicake.

Into my second week of isolation here in Spain. I moved into my new flat about a week before the lockdown, so while I've got my boxes in I didn't manage to get much furniture in or (more importantly) anything I can use as baseboard for a temporary model railway layout. I can't go out and get anything either as for some reason they count building a model railway as 'non essential'.

So I'm trying to decide which room in the flat doesn't really need a door. (most of the doors will get replaced anyway once this is all over).

Quote from: zwilnik on March 27, 2020, 10:15:32 PM

So I'm trying to decide which room in the flat doesn't really need a door.

Now that is what you call being dedicated to the hobby.  :thumbsup:

We have just had an announcement here in Ireland to the effect that we are in total lock down for 14 days from midnight. Apart from some exceptions, which have been listed, nobody is allowed out. I suppose I am a bit fortunate in that I can go out twice a day to take Louisa to, and collect her from, work, as she is classed as an essential worker - but that is it.

At last our local Tesco has got their act together. All flooring/aisles marked with tape to keep distance between shoppers. Queue outside for about 15 mins as '1 in, 1 out' in operation. They even had loo rolls and milk so got some for myself and Mum!!!
Black mark, though, for Tesco staff who go round scanning stuff on the shelves and just plonk themselves right next to you ::)
Duly delivered newspaper and essentials to Mum and, in a 10 mile round trip, saw not one police person

Forget tesco where I live. Nightmare and an untalkative staff member in a queuing system 1 in 1 out. Went to Mark's Spencer staff seem very relaxed  friendly, helpful. Managed to find what I wanted at the local corner shop too

Very relieved because my parents, who are both in the 70+ "stay at home for 3 months" group have managed to get their grocery deliveries prioritised for early next week rather than the "maybe in 3 weeks" they were being told the other day (they have a few days of reserves as they live in a slightly out-of-the-way village which can get cut off by snow but not enough for "maybe 3 weeks").

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 28, 2020, 10:20:01 AM
At last our local Tesco has got their act together. All flooring/aisles marked with tape to keep distance between shoppers. Queue outside for about 15 mins as '1 in, 1 out' in operation. They even had loo rolls and milk so got some for myself and Mum!!!
Black mark, though, for Tesco staff who go round scanning stuff on the shelves and just plonk themselves right next to you ::)
Duly delivered newspaper and essentials to Mum and, in a 10 mile round trip, saw not one police person

yesterday ours was still offering to wipe your trolley handle ....

but no hand sanitiser for you, so any germs go straight back onto the handle  :'(

Quote from: class37025 on March 28, 2020, 01:13:58 PM
yesterday ours was still offering to wipe your trolley handle ....

That may be a euphemism too far :o ;)

Quote from: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 28, 2020, 01:44:49 PM

Quote from: class37025 on March 28, 2020, 01:13:58 PM
yesterday ours was still offering to wipe your trolley handle ....

That may be a euphemism too far :o ;)

Tesco are now taking temperatures before letting people into the store.......You've been warned


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A painful position. Enough there.... it's a family user friendly forum

As SWMBO and I are endeavouring to keep in strict isolation, bar walks and bike rides, our next visit to a Supermarket (seeing as we will be unlikely to be able to book a delivery here) is at least 2 weeks away if we eek things out carefully.

So I'm preparing for a busier time of sowing seeds and reaping the rewards. Ground semi-prepared, seeds on the way, and back aching. Obviously a long term project but I'm pretty sure we shall all be dealing with this pandemic for months not weeks now, and maybe longer, so it's all worth the effort.

Of course, what Mother Nature might do now will be to give us a blisteringly hot summer and drought conditions so I can while away my time watching the results of my labours wither and wilt.  :(  :'( :doh:

But in reality I'm more optimistic than that. :thumbsup:

Daffy.
I'm with you on that.
Our allotment (which is quite large) id 90% ready with 2nd early potatoes all in and first seeds sown.
Of course, nothing much will be ready to eat till at leat mid June (ish) although we currently have purple sprouting and spinach and we should have the first early season rhubarb for pudding tomorrow.
Our big worry is that the country implements a total lock down which means, presumably, that the allotment will be out of bounds and left to its own devices  :(
For the time being however, we can only get things ready as if all will be well.

Our milkman seems to be coping so far, which means milk, bread, butter/marg, eggs, bacon, jam and crumpets are in supply - so I can probably survive indefinitely! Also discovered a load of the local farmers who did markets are now doing deliveries to try and stay in business and shift the stuff so we were able to get a stock of burgers and the like too.

Some of the garden is planted, much more to do.

I think that with all the flooding this winter, it's a forgone conclusion that by May at least there will be a hosepipe ban due to a water shortage.

when will some idiot realise that if you are going to build thousands of new houses, you need to upgrade the water supplies and build new reservoirs?

suppose they are too busy counting their bonuses  :veryangry:

The problem is we dont have 15000 acres to build new reservoirs everywhere and I think the Welsh have had enough of the "bloody English " flooding a village because it sits nicely in a valley!!

It is very hard to get permission to create a new hardstanding for buildings and rightly so. We struggle with fields flooding because they built the railway line through them and became floodplain to prevent that going underwater. But we also struggle with surface run off and flood 3 separate yards very frequently.

We have potatoes in the ground, all 86 acres of them, we still have some turnips left in 30 odd acres of stubble growth that the sheep grazed and our barley is under contract to Carling once the harvest happens.

So nothing to just nip out and haul in for our dinner but if we wait long enough I guess we could do a nice leg of Mutton with new potatoes and a turnip salad  :hmmm:

Will it be long before farmers/allotment owners need to implement security measures? :uneasy:

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 28, 2020, 05:15:14 PM
Will it be long before farmers/allotment owners need to implement security measures? :uneasy:

We have that Mick, it's called a 12bore!!!!!, usually does the trick  >:D

Ration books. 1 trolley loaded with one milk, bread, eggs, bacon  a cleaning item etc etc. But being honest Mark's and Spencer's was more civilised than the t word supermarket

Quote from: exmouthcraig on March 28, 2020, 05:17:13 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 28, 2020, 05:15:14 PM
Will it be long before farmers/allotment owners need to implement security measures? :uneasy:

We have that Mick, it's called a 12bore!!!!!, usually does the trick  >:D

and if you've got a backhoe, you don't need to do any paperwork, just bury the thieving  :censored:

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 28, 2020, 05:15:14 PM
Will it be long before farmers/allotment owners need to implement security measures? :uneasy:

might need to, after all plod will be trying to earn as much as they can fining over 70s who've tunneled out of their housese, or gone to the corner shop twice in a month.

PCCs must be rubbing their hands with glee at thought of all the money they can make out of it.

Quote from: class37025 on March 28, 2020, 05:23:08 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 28, 2020, 05:15:14 PM
Will it be long before farmers/allotment owners need to implement security measures? :uneasy:

I remember in the late 70s there was a potato crop failure in Pembrokeshire. I worked in the ambulance service and had to pick up a "gentleman" who had tried to nick some potatoes. Unfortunately for him the farmer had left a billy goat in the field which succeeded in severely modifying his femur. He was out of action for months!

... and on a brighter note  :)

Just been on a happy ride in the drivers cab on the funicular railway from Alpnachstad near Luzern in Switzerland to the top station of Mt Pilatus at 7000 feet above sea level. :D

Then, just cos I could, I rode back down again. :thumbsup:

Lovely pleasant hour in the sunshine, which was shining when I did the journey up for real back in 2006.

Next week, when a new DVD arrives, I'm going to travel from Chur to St Moritz and onward to Tirano in Italy on the Bernina Express. I think the sun will be shining then too.

Isolation can be  a lovely trip down memory lane.

Quote from: Mito on March 28, 2020, 06:14:55 PM

Quote from: class37025 on March 28, 2020, 05:23:08 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 28, 2020, 05:15:14 PM
Will it be long before farmers/allotment owners need to implement security measures? :uneasy:

I remember in the late 70s there was a potato crop failure in Pembrokeshire. I worked in the ambulance service and had to pick up a "gentleman" who had tried to nick some potatoes. Unfortunately for him the farmer had left a billy goat in the field which succeeded in severely modifying his femur. He was out of action for months!

the thief or the billy goat ? :hmmm:

As we took the gentleman to hospital I'm pretty sure it wasn't the goat :-\

Quote from: exmouthcraig on March 28, 2020, 05:17:13 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 28, 2020, 05:15:14 PM
Will it be long before farmers/allotment owners need to implement security measures? :uneasy:

We have that Mick, it's called a 12bore!!!!!, usually does the trick  >:D

Must admit I miss my Winchester Cooey 84, it probably would have come in handy in the weeks and months to come  :(  ;D

 :laughabovepost: nice to see your not wishing you had anything tooooooo extreme @Lawrence (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=16)   :D

Quote from: exmouthcraig on March 28, 2020, 06:57:23 PM
:laughabovepost: nice to see your not wishing you had anything tooooooo extreme @Lawrence (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=16)   :D

Well it was only single barrel, great gun to learn with as you only had one shot so it had to count, none of this over under nonsense ;-)
Fortunately @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099) mine was very tightly choked which gave me a very nice tight pattern

All OK here- we work from home fine, kids are finding lessons on the web conference amusing. We live near fields so can get out for dog walks and runs OK, an people are keeping their distance. The local post office is still operating and the local convenience store has food. After a two week wait, we got some food delivered from our regular supermarket, and have started to dig up the back garden this weekend to grow extra vegetables. Will keep the boys busy over Easter and summer holidays! All this excitement has meant we haven't done any modelling yet but I feel there will be plenty of time for that coming up....

My impression from general reading is that lockdown would be in place at least until the summer- if it's released too early there will be as second spike from those not yet infected getting it, which would far outstrip NHS capacity.

On a train geek note - I saw this on the BBC and thought you'd like to see what the French are doing with the TGV fleet:

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@DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) . Talk about a high speed hospital train

And People Stayed at Home
Kathleen O'Meara (1839–1888).

And people stayed home
and read books and listened
and rested and exercised
and made art and played
and learned new ways of being
and stopped
and listened deeper
someone meditated
someone prayed
someone danced
someone met their shadow
and people began to think differently
and people healed
and in the absence of people who lived in ignorant ways,
dangerous, meaningless and heartless,
even the earth began to heal
and when the danger ended
and people found each other
grieved for the dead people
and they made new choices
and dreamed of new visions
and created new ways of life
and healed the earth completely
just as they were healed themselves.

Written after the potato famine in Ireland.

Nothing new under the sun...

Cheers

Chris

Quote from: Arrachogaidh on April 01, 2020, 02:37:18 AM
Dig in for the long run folks!
Root veg and lettuce is the way to go, peas and beans. Even try it in a window box, you may be grateful one day.

Indeed - my peas and broccoli raab are due for planting out in the next day or so. My other brassicas, first batch of lettuces, tomatoes, cucumbers and melons are coming on nicely. I'm leaving it a bit longer before I sow parsnips and carrots though.

I've just noticed on the web that Britons have been told to keep torches and gloves handy in case there are power outages, amid potential engineer shortages.  Not the sort of thing you want to hear living in the London area.

I'll be keeping handy a few more things than gloves and bloody torches!

Quote from: chrism on April 01, 2020, 06:57:00 AM

Quote from: Arrachogaidh on April 01, 2020, 02:37:18 AM
Dig in for the long run folks!
Root veg and lettuce is the way to go, peas and beans. Even try it in a window box, you may be grateful one day.

My melons are coming on nicely.

Tits like melons.
Sparrows like breadcrumbs :)

Oh crumbs alright  :doh:

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 01, 2020, 11:04:24 AM

Tits like melons.

I'm saying nowt!

As for the advice to stop touching your face I've stopped shaving, growing a beard.

Thought, how do you wash your face without touching it?

Well that makes life interesting. The heating system has just packed in.........................................

Quote from: Dorsetmike on April 01, 2020, 12:51:02 PM
As for the advice to stop touching your face I've stopped shaving, growing a beard.

Thought, how do you wash your face without touching it?

Do Karcher make a mini jet-washer unit for the bathroom? :hmmm:  :D

2 comments re beards:
- anti-virus facemasks will not be as effective over a beard
- beards need to be kept clean and groomed too, perhaps requiring even more face touching, to keep at bay the dreaded 'beard lice' and to stop birds nesting

Quote from: Dorsetmike on April 01, 2020, 12:51:02 PM
As for the advice to stop touching your face I've stopped shaving, growing a beard.

Thought, how do you wash your face without touching it?

did you apply for permission ?

Quote from: daffy on April 01, 2020, 03:55:46 PM
2 comments re beards:
- anti-virus facemasks will not be as effective over a beard
- beards need to be kept clean and groomed too, perhaps requiring even more face touching, to keep at bay the dreaded 'beard lice' and to stop birds nesting

There was an Old Man with a beard,
Who said, "It is just as I feared!—
Two Owls and a Hen, four Larks and a Wren,
Have all built their nests in my beard.

Edward Lear, The Book of Nonsense, c1887

QuoteDo Karcher make a mini jet-washer unit for the bathroom?

would also reduce the need for bog roll

Quote from: Dorsetmike on April 01, 2020, 12:51:02 PM
As for the advice to stop touching your face I've stopped shaving, growing a beard.

Thought, how do you wash your face without touching it?

Do you have a bidet? ;)

Quote from: daffy on April 01, 2020, 03:55:46 PM

Quote from: Dorsetmike on April 01, 2020, 12:51:02 PM
As for the advice to stop touching your face I've stopped shaving, growing a beard.

Thought, how do you wash your face without touching it?

Do Karcher make a mini jet-washer unit for the bathroom? :hmmm:  :D

2 comments re beards:
- anti-virus facemasks will not be as effective over a beard
- beards need to be kept clean and groomed too, perhaps requiring even more face touching, to keep at bay the dreaded 'beard lice' and to stop birds nesting

"anti-virus facemasks will not be as effective over a beard "

no problem, even medical staff don't seem able to get them, so what chance have we got.

Quoteno problem, even medical staff don't seem able to get them, so what chance have we got.

Yeah, looked on Amazon, delivery dates end April into May and reviews of quality were abysmal, stitching falling apart among other problems. Not exactly cheap either.

I have a few JSP Pro dust masks designated FFP3 from Screwfix that I would normally use for DIY stuff.

Not perfect for aerosols, but better than some of the rubbish ones see  online that wouldn't protect you from anything.

I hope that there are no burglars reading this who know where you live.   ;D

Quote from: daffy on April 01, 2020, 03:55:46 PM

Quote from: Dorsetmike on April 01, 2020, 12:51:02 PM
As for the advice to stop touching your face I've stopped shaving, growing a beard.

Thought, how do you wash your face without touching it?

Do Karcher make a mini jet-washer unit for the bathroom? :hmmm:  :D

2 comments re beards:
- anti-virus facemasks will not be as effective over a beard
- beards need to be kept clean and groomed too, perhaps requiring even more face touching, to keep at bay the dreaded 'beard lice' and to stop birds nesting

I'm thinking of fitting one of these (https://uk.banggood.com/Honana-WX-1-Universal-Type-Simple-Using-Toilet-Spray-Portable-Bidet-Female-Flushing-Device-p-1289783.html?gmcCountry=GB&currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=lijing&utm_campaign=pla-gbg-rm-all-purchase-pc&ad_id=323612825005&gclid=CjwKCAjw95D0BRBFEiwAcO1KDH-55LMCD9-nNBJctgrfVDKm91KAA3dKkeAko4WVwsye8Mm_z_0WOBoCi3wQAvD_BwE&cur_warehouse=CN) as I'm getting a bit fed being rationed with bog roll in shops.

By the looks of things user's would have to careful of that jet of water, could make a mess on the bathroom floor!  :D   

Quote from: daffy on April 01, 2020, 06:52:01 PM
I have a few JSP Pro dust masks designated FFP3 from Screwfix that I would normally use for DIY stuff.

Not perfect for aerosols, but better than some of the rubbish ones see  online that wouldn't protect you from anything.

You want the JSP Press To Check™ ABEK1 P3 Filters to go with that (all hazzards).  But you wont get them now and all available stock is being directed to the NHS.

QuoteYou want the JSP Press To Check™ ABEK1 P3 Filters to go with that (all hazzards).  But you wont get them now and all available stock is being directed to the NHS.

No need for all that, a visit to  marks and sparks or ann summers should  get you sorted

(https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/cjaysan_twitch_coronavirus-panties-1536x768.jpg.webp)

Quote from: themadhippy on April 01, 2020, 07:41:12 PM

QuoteYou want the JSP Press To Check™ ABEK1 P3 Filters to go with that (all hazzards).  But you wont get them now and all available stock is being directed to the NHS.

No need for all that, a visit to  marks and sparks or ann summers should  get you sorted

(https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/cjaysan_twitch_coronavirus-panties-1536x768.jpg.webp)

Or girlfriend  :smiley-laughing:

@Mr Sprue (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2668) Got a bidet alongside the throne.

Quote from: Dorsetmike on April 01, 2020, 08:09:53 PM
@Mr Sprue (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2668) Got a bidet alongside the throne.

Hey, some nitwit's put two dunnies in here  :D

Well I have be requested to return to work tomorrow, the boss wants a system build finished, another system tested and yet another completely different one built and wired, in one day! Apart from said boss (who will be in the front office) it will just be me in the workshop so looks like a break from tech support from the living room. Likewise Della is also going in to her work tomorrow as she has stuff to return and other stuff to pick up, she too will be on her own.
Much hand washing and social distancing will ensue and fingers crossed

You should be OK., but good luck anyway, the both of you.  :thumbsup:

I must admit I'm paranoid about even going near the shopping centre these days, but hey, when you're out of Victoria Bitter.....  :worried:

I wear what the asbestos removal guys and sprayers use GEARSON 8000E Series (https://parmaautomotive.com/products/gerson-8000e-series-disposable-half-mask-cartridge-respirator) I couldnt give a toss if I look like a cock walking round Tesco wearing it, but I'm over 65 and things look pretty grim for my age group if I get infected!

I am getting very frustrated with my Mum who, although she has done the right thing in self isolating herself (she's 87), hasn't quite come to grips with the fact her son and eldest daughter are not on call to go shopping for her every time she wants something she's either forgotten to ask for or run out of >:(
My exposure to supermarkets is max twice a week and that's only because they either haven't got what I/we need or limit the number allowed.

Does the supermarket do home delivery? Anne has been getting into that big time here

Quote from: Bealman on April 01, 2020, 09:45:53 PM
Does the supermarket do home delivery? Anne has been getting into that big time here

WHAT A HOME DELIVERY IN THE UK!!!  :smiley-laughing:

Nigh on impossible to get bookings, George, and I'd rather leave that facility to those who really need it more than me. Mum wouldn't even know how to go about it.
I just get what she wants, take it over to her and drop it off in her porch. The ring the doorbell and shout at to her from the top of the path.

Quote from: Mr Sprue on April 01, 2020, 09:47:52 PM

Quote from: Bealman on April 01, 2020, 09:45:53 PM
Does the supermarket do home delivery? Anne has been getting into that big time here

WHAT A HOME DELIVERY IN THE UK!!!  :smiley-laughing:

She doesn't need a home, anyway. She's already got one :laugh:

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 01, 2020, 09:43:17 PM
I am getting very frustrated with my Mum who, although she has done the right thing in self isolating herself (she's 87), hasn't quite come to grips with the fact her son and eldest daughter are not on call to go shopping for her every time she wants something she's either forgotten to ask for or run out of >:(
My exposure to supermarkets is max twice a week and that's only because they either haven't got what I/we need or limit the number allowed.

Sympathise with you Mick not a healthy place to visit often. I've instructed the missus I'm only going in those places once a fortnight as my bum is hangs out like a big red windsock mingling with peeps who don't know what six foot looks like! :worried:

I was in a relatively calm supermarket today for 5 items. Really annoyed with people too busy on phones not concentrating . Worse had a quick check in the meat picked my item up as the display price card nearly fell off . Some really agitated woman could not wait. She stuck her arm right in front my face. Excuse me. So much for social distancing or waiting. She was on her mobile. Excuse me I said politely. She gave an earful of unrepeatable Language. Even the sales assistant took my side when a manager asked if I was okay. Sorry about the label. Ah no should not be on there.  Thanked staff. Manager aSked female punter can I help what you need madam. He too got an earlobe ful. Society

Home schooling NPN style............

Living in a small village down a long straight road and unable to get an online delivery arranged from any supermarket, I'm also less and less willing to go out to shop in the old fashioned way as the virus grips and some folks continue to act like morons.

So when an RAF C130 Hercules flew low and slow directly down our road a few minutes ago, my first random thought was that I'd missed something in the news and should rush out immediately to retrieve my emergency food parcel as it dropped by parachute like manna from heaven.

But no. Sadly I will still need to risk a visit to Tesco. :(

Edit: it just flew back perpendicular to previous track en route to land at RAF Coningsby. And not a Hercules but an A400M Atlas. A grand sight to see. :thumbsup:

Well I managed to get the first two systems finished and ready for shipping, the 3rd system was part built by another firm and when I wired up my sensors they didn't work and guess what, no internal wiring diagram. I phoned one of our directors who is pretty sharp with this kit and he didn't pick up, same when the boss tried so he text him asking him to call me, Nada, Nix, Nothing. So I fired off an email to Poland asking for wiring information before I start ripping their kit to bits, and having still had no contact from said director, I said to the boss that if he couldn't be arsed then neither could I and that I was going home. He couldn't argue that really.

Della is still at work and on her own.

Ironically, we both got our dates muddled when we agreed to go in, it is actually her birthday today so on the way home I popped into Tesco (No Queues  :D ) and purchased a large bouquet of roses, a large bottle of pink gin and her favourite scratchcard (which she wont win with  ::) ), but still people not getting the social distancing thing and quite happily just reach in front of you to grab stuff off the shelf.  Get a grip people!!

I did have to go via our new offices that we are moving to and it just so happens that the adjoining unit makes hand sanitiser and other eco friendly cleaning and debugging products, so i nipped in and bought some hand sanitiser spray. £5 for a 500ml bottle, but I can go back any time and get a refill for £1
At least I can thoroughly spray Della down when she gets home  ;D

Quote from: daffy on April 02, 2020, 10:35:47 AM
Living in a small village down a long straight road and unable to get an online delivery arranged from any supermarket, I'm also less and less willing to go out to shop in the old fashioned way as the virus grips and some folks continue to act like morons.

So when an RAF C130 Hercules flew low and slow directly down our road a few minutes ago, my first random thought was that I'd missed something in the news and should rush out immediately to retrieve my emergency food parcel as it dropped by parachute like manna from heaven.

But no. Sadly I will still need to risk a visit to Tesco. :(

Edit: it just flew back perpendicular to previous track en route to land at RAF Coningsby. And not a Hercules but an A400M Atlas. A grand sight to see. :thumbsup:

not the lowest I've seen of these, but the first A400 flight through the loop, others getting lower and lower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09l-Wc_33fk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09l-Wc_33fk)

amazing, or not, what the RAF can do with these big  :censored: compared to the so called USAF Top Guns, who routinely display distant under surface views, as opposed to RAF top surface views through the loop.

will admit, however, that the USAF C-130s / KC-130s / AC-130s do get down and dirty, unlike their F-15 etc collegues.

a bit more down and dirty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQk5a0z_rW4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQk5a0z_rW4)

always felt 4 screws were better than two blow-jobs any day  :-[

Nice vids & dare I say it on the close fly pasts for a moment it almost sound like a couple of Spits. Amazing sound. :thumbsup:

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:P

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 02, 2020, 04:38:39 PM
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:P

They are definitely closer then 2 meters  :censored:

Quote from: Snowwolflair on April 02, 2020, 04:40:41 PM
They are definitely closer then 2 meters  :censored:

Same household :P

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 02, 2020, 04:38:39 PM
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:P

Yep you have a point there this thread needs to get back on....
(https://i.imgur.com/KLulmK8.jpg)

including the OP  :-[

 Definitely  :D

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These pictures were posted on our local "Nextdoor" community site the other day.

Because of everyone staying at home in isolation our local deer are taking advantage of the situation! These beauty's have a blood line that dates back to Henry V111 and roam free around the countryside at Harold Hill & Havering park.

(https://i.imgur.com/MSHTPu9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8sVuhuA.jpg)

Oh deer. I think this thread could go off topic again here............

Quote from: Mr Sprue on April 02, 2020, 06:58:54 PM
These beauty's have a blood line that dates back to Henry V111

I knew he had a lot of wives, but... :goggleeyes: :goggleeyes: :goggleeyes:

Sorry, but those deer do not impress me in the least. We have a feral deer problem here, and their movement into the suburbs causes untold problems. There have been multiple destructive episodes at Chez Bealman.

Anyway, as requested, back on track - although the Triang Davey Crockett loco going down in flames was upsetting  ;)

Veg seeds arrived today so happy see fine weather due so that we can get out into the garden and get everything sorted. This will include transplanting lots of stuff in pots and in the greenhouse. I think - or hope + the frosts keep away, but I'll keep a weather eye open and be ready with some fleece.

Meanwhile, I see that even wildlife is now being asked to keep to 'social distancing' recommendations  :D. :

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/5634-030420153801.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90186)

Good education for the kids too. :thumbsup:

out through the tunnel again today, dodging police patrols, and infiltrated, ok queued up to get into, Tesco's.

all items now back up to 3 per barcode, towel rolls had been one, and plenty [excuse the pun] of towel and loo rolls.

much more meat / chicken etc, and both bread and milk ok.

tinned not too bad, not much in the way of tinned tomatoes or corned beef, and Rice still in short supply.

produce almost back to normal levels, but still no Pasta ?????????

anyway, got just about everything on SWMBO's list, except pasta, and returned to base without being challenged  :claphappy:

so the weekend can be spent at home, doing important stuff  :-[ before the next mission tuesday - ish.

and the weather looks good for the weekend, so I think sarnies and a flask, and extra long walks [ only once per day  :angel:] for hairy beast.

keep safe.

Quote from: class37025 on April 03, 2020, 04:12:15 PM
I think sarnies and a flask, and extra long walks [ only once per day  :angel:] for hairy beast.

I know Huskies are meant to be clever but what does he like in his sarnies* and what in the flask?

*Nobby's Nuts is not the right answer.

sorry, I should have made myself clear  :-[

so corned beef sarnies for me ....

oxo in the flask for me ....

water for hairy beast ...

tasty bites, bacon treats, chicken treats, or whatever else edible [a very loose catagory as far as he is concerned] will fit in a backpack for hairy beast ...

oh, and he likes humbugs - please do not ask  :-X

Had to break isolation this morning and do a rat run to Tesco today @08:10, only one person in front held on the door queue, within a few minutes waved in by the security man had the trolley handle wiped by a member of staff and then left to roam the store.

As I turned and ventured down the first isle I couldn't believe my eyes it was like walking in to Aladins cave :claphappy: pretty much hardly any empty shelves!

Since this pandemic started this is the first time this store has looked like any thing back to normal. Having said that when I left and walked down the ramp to the car park the queue by that time had grown fifty meters long.

I took Louisa to work this morning, as I do every day and then went on to Tesco's. Quite well stocked now, (Tesco's as well as our house  :)). However, the first hour is for over 65's - I have been twice now under this new rule and nobody has asked me to prove my age!  :( . (I think the fella on the door needs to go to 'Specsavers' - if he can get an appointment!). Louisa has a letter from her employer stating that she is an essential worker, I take her to work in a morning and collect her again at tea time so that is ten trips a week, but no Gardai, (Police), have stopped me - I want to show off the letter and go  :P :nerner:, (metaphorically)!  ;)

what's the point of a 'get out of jail' card if you can't use it  :hmmm:

I'll be having to make a run Monday morning as I need some essentials and so will Mum. I'll be trying the 9-10am senior citizens hour and just hope they've restocked shelves after the weekend.
Payment always made by contactless card

Going to be a warm weather weekend. Staying home , have no garden  so windows open  , cold drink, snacks, model railways.

I'll be off down to Tesco in the morning - to hand out leaflets to the queue, telling people about the local volunteer group and what we can help the self-isolating and vulnerable groups with.

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 03, 2020, 08:17:00 PM
I'll be having to make a run Monday morning as I need some essentials and so will Mum. I'll be trying the 9-10am senior citizens hour and just hope they've restocked shelves after the weekend.
Payment always made by contactless card

local Tesco is now opening at 8.00 instead of 6.00, so 2 hours less time for selfish to strip the shelves before the 9-10 slot for 'mature shoppers'  :)

Quote from: chrism on April 03, 2020, 08:23:31 PM
hand out leaflets to the queue,

Hope you have long (2 metre), arms.  ;). Nice to know that somebody is helping though, good on you and the group.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: dannyboy on April 03, 2020, 08:32:40 PM

Quote from: chrism on April 03, 2020, 08:23:31 PM
hand out leaflets to the queue,

Hope you have long (2 metre), arms.  ;).

" 'ere mate, take a leaflet or we'll cough"
Sorted  :D

QuoteNice to know that somebody is helping though, good on you and the group.  :thumbsup:

It's needed around here. We have a heck of a lot of "oldies", as one would expect in a small industrial town whose complete industry (a heamatite mine and an ironworks) closed 50 years ago, plus all those who moved in to retire (like I did) near the Lake District, plus, I would assume, the usual proportion of others with health issues. There's bugger all public transport, even if people did feel safe to venture out, and what there was, along with the taxis, has had to stop due to the difficulty of achieving social distancing in cars and small buses.

Accordingly we've got a little "army" of drivers, shoppers, prescription collectors and deliverers, etc. We also have some self-isolators phoning the vulnerable to check that they are all right, that they don't need anything and, in some cases, just in case they want a chat.

Besides, when it comes to delivering stuff to people it gives us a legitimate reason to play Knock Down Ginger - put the stuff on the doorstep, ring the bell and leg it  :D

I went to a local Tesco with the wife at 8-30 this morning, 25 mins later the wife got in. Last week we both tried to go in but they were only letting single people in, they seemed to be disregarding the mature shoppers at 9.00am rule, they were letting anybody in, and at that time the wife said  lot of shelves were empty. We are also shopping for the wifes dad who is 83, he does not understand what things are like, keeps giving us lists of stuff we cant get.

Hey @chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) what do you mean the cat "Besides, when it comes to delivering stuff to people it gives us a legitimate reason to play Knock Down Ginger "

Quote from: lil chris on April 03, 2020, 09:03:20 PM
giving us lists of stuff we cant get.

Out Tesco is getting back to normal now - apart from tape marking all over the place to keep people spaced apart and a one out, one in rule at the door. Not many items in short supply nor, even, on restricted quantities now.

I guess that, because a large number of the houses in the town are terraces, the panic buyers and hoarders of a couple of weeks ago have run out of space to put it all  :D

Quote from: lil chris on April 03, 2020, 09:03:20 PM
I went to a local Tesco with the wife at 8-30 this morning, 25 mins later the wife got in. Last week we both tried to go in but they were only letting single people in, they seemed to be disregarding the mature shoppers at 9.00am rule, they were letting anybody in, and at that time the wife said  lot of shelves were empty. We are also shopping for the wifes dad who is 83, he does not understand what things are like, keeps giving us lists of stuff we cant get.

typical of Tesco's, you sign away all your rights when you get married, and single people can go shopping but we can't.

I demand a public enquiry, plus compensation, preferably in packets of pasta.

Quote from: lil chris on April 03, 2020, 09:05:27 PM
Hey @chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) what do you mean the cat "Besides, when it comes to delivering stuff to people it gives us a legitimate reason to play Knock Down Ginger "

It's one name for the children's game of ringing the bell and running away. Nowt to do with moggies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock%2C_Knock%2C_Ginger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock%2C_Knock%2C_Ginger)

A mate was in a tesco queue for an hour. Erm Mark's Spencer's ten minutes civilised

Quote from: class37025 on April 03, 2020, 09:08:50 PM
typical of Tesco's, you sign away all your rights when you get married, and single people can go shopping but we can't.

Another advantage of being single  :D

Ahhh @chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) we used to call it 2Knock an Run" round here. My mum used to tell me a advanced version of that game played in her time.  Two houses and they would tie string to each door knocker then knock on one, another one was a lot of houses had those thumb catches like you get on back gates nowadays, they would stick a drawing pin on with dog poo, very nasty, you prick you finger the first thing you do is suck it....very nasty in those days.

We used to call it 'cherry knocking', originating from throwing handfuls of cherries or almonds (God knows  why we didn't call it 'almond knocking) from the trees that grew down our road, at folks front doors. The term just ended up meaning any form of disturbing someone by knocking on their door and running off.
It developed over time, the last method we used being to tie cotton thread to a door-knocker, under cover of darkness, string it across the road and tie it off to another knocker or a tree, and wait for a passing car to trigger the knock. On one occasion we had five door-knockers so strung before a car passed by.

Happy crazy and innocent days.

Yeah, I'll bet the people in the house were really happy.

Mind you, up in the NE, we used to light penny bangers and drop em in letterboxes.... we weren't so innocent in the NE  :)

Well I got a reply from Poland today regarding their wiring an the fact they mentioned that the Gnd & Com had to be looped in the back of the plug, so it looks like I'm back into work Monday  :( ::)

Good luck and take care, mate.  :beers:

And for all the Aussies don't forget to put the bins out (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-australia-52147740/coronavirus-dressing-up-for-bin-night-brings-a-smile-in-australia). I think it must be something in the VB which makes people act like this. Which one is you George?

I'm the guy in the red helmet  :D

Interesting that they had to put subtitles on for the Poms  ;)

I'm a little late answering the question. My wife and I have been isolated for three weeks. Our daughter, who lives next door, phones us and fetches our groceries (messages for you Scots). Our son checks in on Whatsapp video. That's the limit to our socialization - except for this forum and an RAF Kirknewton site for alumni of the American occupation of that facility.

Leon

I'm keeping occupied writing my magnum opus on Triang Railways (plug, plug)

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=48785.0 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=48785.0)

so there i am in this time of self isolation having a wonderful time running my railway when the garage roof springs a leek over the layout. As i mentioned on anther thread the goal is to run every piece of  stock, and if any have problems then to fix, and repeat. Will have to get the grandson on the roof to fix on the next dry day, which is now looking like over a week away. So just have to keep emptying the bucket.

Weather's sunny and windy here. You going to get rain all next week? Didn't notice that on the telly this morning - mustn't be paying attention.

looks like we have showers all through next week, and the waterproofing paint needs at least 6hrs to cure before any rain. the garage has a galvanised tin roof which is now almost 50yrs old and starting to show its age. I fixed it all up 10yrs ago but SWMBO wont let me up there any more, hence waiting for the 18yr old grandson.

Wise decision by SWMBO. I wouldn't be able to get up there now anyway (only took the moonboot off a week or so ago), but even before then, in my advancing years a fear of heights is gradually creeping in.

Getting old sucks.

Quote from: Graham on April 04, 2020, 06:23:28 AM
looks like we have showers all through next week, and the waterproofing paint needs at least 6hrs to cure before any rain. the garage has a galvanised tin roof which is now almost 50yrs old and starting to show its age. I fixed it all up 10yrs ago but SWMBO wont let me up there any more, hence waiting for the 18yr old grandson.

If you can get it "Cromapol" is what you need, you can even apply it in the rain.  Hard work applying it, but worth the effort.

A BBQ is definitely going to be on the cards today, its been in isolation all winter!

My wife and I continue to keep as isolated as possible, only I have been out shopping and the last time was ten days ago.

We are set to have a warm and sunny period of weather here in the UK during what would normally be the Easter holidays.

I implore all people to stick to the restrictions. DO NOT make this isolation worthless by now allowing a bit of sunshine to be an excuse to travel to holiday resorts and attractions, be they by the sea, in our National Parks, our city parks, or wherever folks would normally go to relax in the sun.

These are not normal times.

People are dying.

Don't spread the virus.

STAY AT HOME.

PLEASE.

The heat isn't due to percolate oop North today (max 12 degrees according to the Beeb) but then 19 tomorrow.
Years ago my Mum had a flyer through her letter box about gas barbecues, and the banner headline (straight up, Guv) was "Why not try gas barbecuing yourself?" :laugh:

Unfortunately, there are still arrogant morons who think the rules don't apply to them!
http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/ (http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/)

Quote from: TrevL on April 04, 2020, 09:46:39 AM
Unfortunately, there are still arrogant morons who think the rules don't apply to them!
http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/ (http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/)

There's never a Peeler about when you need one. Those wobbly boxes should be stopped and turned back  >:(

@TrevL (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5583)  I make you right, on my journey to Tesco yesterday for necessities, I noticed a family of four who were all over the road trying to ride their pushbikes, me and another driver nearly clipped one of them as she suddenly left the pavement!

What I cant get my head round is why most of us are abiding to the requirements to stay at home, yet it doesn't seem to apply to these idiots who were out for just leisurely ride getting in everybody's way!

Same sort of thing happening here too, people with caravans (or, worse still, buying caravans) are heading off to the outback to avoid the city.

Of course these mental giants forget that they could be spreading it to outback towns, and if they do develop the infection, outback towns do not have the facilities to deal with it.

Which part of STAY AT HOME don't these idiots understand?

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 04, 2020, 10:01:37 AM

Quote from: TrevL on April 04, 2020, 09:46:39 AM
Unfortunately, there are still arrogant morons who think the rules don't apply to them!
http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/ (http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/)

There's never a Peeler about when you need one. Those wobbly boxes should be stopped and turned back  >:(

Send them to the Philippines (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/) I say.

Quote from: Trainfish on April 04, 2020, 11:56:24 AM


Send them to the Philippines (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/) I say.

A bit extreme, but might get the message across.

Quote from: Trainfish on April 04, 2020, 11:56:24 AM

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 04, 2020, 10:01:37 AM

Quote from: TrevL on April 04, 2020, 09:46:39 AM
Unfortunately, there are still arrogant morons who think the rules don't apply to them!
http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/ (http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/)

There's never a Peeler about when you need one. Those wobbly boxes should be stopped and turned back  >:(

Send them to the Philippines (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/) I say.

They should be taken to a nearby field and quarantined there for 12 months.  Definitely not allowed to return home.

Having just seen a post on Facebook about somebody witnessing people arriving at a house for a Birthday party....I am a bit miffed.

I spend my Birthday (last Saturday) following the rules.

Skyline2uk

Quote from: Bealman on April 03, 2020, 10:42:06 PM
Yeah, I'll bet the people in the house were really happy.

Mind you, up in the NE, we used to light penny bangers and drop em in letterboxes.... we weren't so innocent in the NE  :)

The local yobs down here used to get on the big wheel at Poole November fair and toss jumping jacks down into the crowd.

Quote from: Mr Sprue on April 04, 2020, 10:12:28 AM
@TrevL (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5583)  I make you right, on my journey to Tesco yesterday for necessities, I noticed a family of four who were all over the road trying to ride their pushbikes, me and another driver nearly clipped one of them as she suddenly left the pavement!

What I cant get my head round is why most of us are abiding to the requirements to stay at home, yet it doesn't seem to apply to these idiots who were out for just leisurely ride getting in everybody's way!

guess they'd claim it was their daily exercise period.

Quote from: Snowwolflair on April 04, 2020, 12:08:19 PM

Quote from: Trainfish on April 04, 2020, 11:56:24 AM

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 04, 2020, 10:01:37 AM

Quote from: TrevL on April 04, 2020, 09:46:39 AM
Unfortunately, there are still arrogant morons who think the rules don't apply to them!
http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/ (http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/)

There's never a Peeler about when you need one. Those wobbly boxes should be stopped and turned back  >:(

Send them to the Philippines (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/) I say.

They should be taken to a nearby field and quarantined there for 12 months.  Definitely not allowed to return home.

or quarantine in nearby field for 14 days, not allowed out of field, then allowed to go to where they needed to, but on return, again quarantined in the field for a further 14 days, again not allowed out of field.

Quote from: Snowwolflair on April 04, 2020, 12:08:19 PM

Quote from: Trainfish on April 04, 2020, 11:56:24 AM

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 04, 2020, 10:01:37 AM

Quote from: TrevL on April 04, 2020, 09:46:39 AM
Unfortunately, there are still arrogant morons who think the rules don't apply to them!
http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/ (http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/)

There's never a Peeler about when you need one. Those wobbly boxes should be stopped and turned back  >:(

Send them to the Philippines (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/) I say.

They should be taken to a nearby field and quarantined there for 12 months.  Definitely not allowed to return home.

Or sent on a feature with Clarkson, May and Hammond >:D

Don't know if you've been getting this on the news over there, but the infamous cruise ship Ruby Princess, the one that is responsible for most of our Covid19 problem (some idiot allowed 2700 people to disembark in Sydney 2 weeks ago), still has Covid positive people on board. Two crew members apparently quite sick.

Overnight, with no announcement from the government, it was allowed to leave Sydney Harbour, and as of today it is berthed at Port Kembla, 5 minutes drive from Chez Bealman.

Local authorities are spewin' particularly Shadow Minister of Health and local MP Ryan Park, and so am I.  :veryangry:

Pro tip: don't drive over there and ask for a guided tour...

To be honest, a cruise has never appealed to me at the best of times, the spectre of mass norovirus is offputting enough, but the prospect of being trapped on one of these infected cruise ships haunting the seas because no-one will let them dock is another dimension altogether.

Meanwhile in Japan, a State of Emergency is impending (https://japantoday.com/category/national/update1-abe-to-declare-state-of-emergency-amid-surge-in-virus-infections), which due to the lack of legal teeth basically means things will go from the current "please stay at home and avoid going out unless necessary" to "y'all really need to please please stay at home and avoid going out unless necessary, we really mean it"  :dunce:

Local police put up road blocks this morning to stop our local idiots gathering to take photos of the cruise ship.  :worried: :veryangry:

That bloody ship accounts for 650 cases Australia wide - 10% of Australia's total cases!!!  :veryangry:

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 04, 2020, 02:36:53 PM

Quote from: Snowwolflair on April 04, 2020, 12:08:19 PM

Quote from: Trainfish on April 04, 2020, 11:56:24 AM

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 04, 2020, 10:01:37 AM

Quote from: TrevL on April 04, 2020, 09:46:39 AM
Unfortunately, there are still arrogant morons who think the rules don't apply to them!
http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/ (http://www.deeside.com/tourists-urged-to-keep-out-of-north-wales-but-caravans-have-been-spotted-heading-west-through-deeside/)

There's never a Peeler about when you need one. Those wobbly boxes should be stopped and turned back  >:(

Send them to the Philippines (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/) I say.

They should be taken to a nearby field and quarantined there for 12 months.  Definitely not allowed to return home.

Or sent on a feature with Clarkson, May and Hammond >:D

you mean something like "CMH, please test and have fun with 3 main battle tanks (Challenger, Abrams, Leo2) and that bunch of caravanists"?

Quote from: Bealman on April 06, 2020, 08:56:33 AM
Local police put up road blocks this morning to stop our local idiots gathering to take photos of the cruise ship.  :worried: :veryangry:

That bloody ship accounts for 650 cases Australia wide - 10% of Australia's total cases!!!  :veryangry:

When i saw they had sent the ship there, i immediately thought of you George. I suppose they have to go somewhere, but you would have thought they could have perhaps gone to Jervis Bay, where there are a few less people. Then maybe the navy could have had a bit of target practice.

I understood from the news reports they are unloading the sick, refuelling it and sending it on its way.

We'll see what happens tomorrow, I guess.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: railsquid on April 06, 2020, 06:53:04 AM
Pro tip: don't drive over there and ask for a guided tour...

To be honest, a cruise has never appealed to me at the best of times, the spectre of mass norovirus is offputting enough, but the prospect of being trapped on one of these infected cruise ships haunting the seas because no-one will let them dock is another dimension altogether.

Meanwhile in Japan, a State of Emergency is impending (https://japantoday.com/category/national/update1-abe-to-declare-state-of-emergency-amid-surge-in-virus-infections), which due to the lack of legal teeth basically means things will go from the current "please stay at home and avoid going out unless necessary" to "y'all really need to please please stay at home and avoid going out unless necessary, we really mean it"  :dunce:

a criuise holiday is my idea of hell.  the last thing i would want is to be trapped in a tin can with hundreds of others. 

Just got back from a Tesco run, surprised at how little traffic in and around central Bournemouth, twicew at a normally congested set of lights I was the only one. Also managed to go through a couple of roundabouts without stopping and on a course much nearer a straight line than usual, saves wear and tear on tyres!

No problems at Tesco, quite organised, got most of what I wanted, scored a 24 pack of 3 ply bog rolls, but no full cream UHT milk nor custard so got some strawberry nesquik to enhance the UHT and a bottle of advocaat to likewise enhance the custard. Got 3 of most other things that will keep so bill was about twice normal weekly shop.

One little old lady was whingeing why can't this that and the other. Hardly anybody in masks and not many in gloves either, I managed to get a 300 pack of plastic disposable gloves from Amazon so had no problem with handling stuff.

As well as holding incoming customers until one left they also controlled access to checkouts on a one out one in basis, staff with headphones holding customers in the last aisle until notified of a check out being vacated.

Plenty of car park spaces too,

Well I managed to get into work to finish off the 'Polish' system to find that the wiring info he gave me was still wrong, after about 45mins I managed to work out the right way to do it but they had made a right buggers muddle of the data logger set up so after getting all the pressure sensors wired, it appeared to still be wrong so I then had to reprogram the data logger.
Finally got it finished, locked up and headed home via Tesco, huge queues outside today. I asked the lass if I had to queue just to go to the kiosk for my pipe baccy and she let me in this was after we had a shoot out with our respective anti bacterial sprays  ;D ;D
Home now doing remote support and told the boss I'm not planning on going in for a few weeks now.

My experience this morning was very much as per Dorsetmike's and I managed to get a halfway decent shop done for Mum and myself. Some plonkers obviously didn't get the bit about direction of travel in the aisles and were oblivious to tannoy announcements about it.
Some retarded woman came the wrong way up an aisle and reached past my shoulder to get some ham, and then pretended she didn't hear me say "That's supposed to be 2 metres in your world, is it?"
She definitely heard me call her an arsehole, though :D

The wife and I went to the Tesco Express down the road on our way back from our daily walk. No queue outside but the young girl on the door said we couldn't go in together as we are a couple. Am I missing something here? If it was really busy I could understand keeping the numbers down but at no point while I waited was there more than 1 person waiting outside. Even when the limit on numbers hadn't been reached she said I couldn't go in. Manager's instructions apparently.

If they set a rule I think it only fair that they adhere to it strictly so as not to cause conflict and uncertainty. After all, if the store got busier before you exited, anyone waiting outside who saw a couple come out would be none too happy to have to follow the rule.

Braved it today. At last the store manager walking the store. Grabbed everything I needed but came to pay and 1 woman shouting queue in aisle 11. The toiletries. What does some snotty censored word woman do ? Try the spray. I pointed at a basket for 6 items. 7 people with stockpiled trolleys. Store manager thankfully took two of us to self serve pay by card. Appreciated chap. 1 checkout trolley loads. Why cannot we have 2 queues and better direction if only have 1 basket I don't need a trolley. Manager thanked security guard helpful but the eugit supposed to be cleaning handles not good at communications. 5 to 6 out of 10

Whilst we are all in isolation finding things to do and no doubt in our moments of boredom browsing the web for just anything out of the norm or remotely interesting. Has anyone come across the 5G conspiracy theory yet?

Someone sent me a link on facebook to watch a video by Kate Shemarini recorded 1st of April. What this woman says in her video is a bit extreme but given the current circumstances who know's what to believe anymore. She is definitely on a mission to prove her point and as made a few other videos on her views.

Its a bit like you know the Daleks are coming to invade the earth but you don't know when!

Quote from: daffy on April 06, 2020, 08:32:19 PM
If they set a rule I think it only fair that they adhere to it strictly so as not to cause conflict and uncertainty. After all, if the store got busier before you exited, anyone waiting outside who saw a couple come out would be none too happy to have to follow the rule.

I agree with what you mean to an extent but this is a small store on a housing estate which never gets busy. I won't lose sleep over it but just wish that common sense could be used sometimes. After all it's open to abuse. We could queue as single people for example but I'm too honest for that.

Quote from: Mr Sprue on April 06, 2020, 09:33:03 PM
.......... the 5G conspiracy theory .................. video by Kate Shemarini recorded 1st of April.

Yes, I've seen that but I put both parts together and dismissed it. Maybe wrongly but I did. Does my iPhone 6s work on 5G?  :goggleeyes:

Yes, I've seen articles about this for a week or so. As with all crises, disasters and the like, the nuts come out to play.

IMHO.

So how exactly does this 5g conspiracy work for the inhabitants of Iran?

Quote from: daffy on April 06, 2020, 09:46:52 PM
Yes, I've seen articles about this for a week or so. As with all crises, disasters and the like, the nuts come out to play.

They'll be panic buying tin foil soon  :D

Quote from: Young Bulla on April 07, 2020, 02:48:11 AM
So how exactly does this 5g conspiracy work for the inhabitants of Iran?

That's a question that entered my mind with all the other 3rd world countries, however their numbers of infections & fatalities are really low compared to ours and US etc.

I came across these two websites : https://www.speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map (https://www.speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map)  https://www.worldtimezone.com/5g.html (https://www.worldtimezone.com/5g.html)

It may be just pure coincidence that the "World Time Zone" 5G coverage map does bare an uncanny resemblance to this world outbreak map!

(https://i.imgur.com/i3Tiq8i.jpg)

This group are not yet following the distance rules, but a very good video -

https://drivetribe.com/p/do-re-mi-covid-19-version-KDw6VeecT1y_Oq1a1Q4YLw?iid=aXAtDZEvQwyyNBPAxLz49w

and it leads to others in the same vein.

Some people just won't be told...........

Okay, they were posted in the wrong order.  ;) (It's all my bruvvers fault!).

Yeah - that should work....................................................................................not

 :laughabovepost:
I really hope she did that for a joke, although, these days you never know.

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 11, 2020, 10:53:10 AM
Yeah - that should work....................................................................................not

Definitely won't work as it looks like the 2001 version. She needs at least 2019, probably 2020.

No, the 20s no good, it's not backward compatible with 19.

Surely it needs to be the Covid-19 version?

Not yet isolated, still have to show up for work, down to 4 days a week and operating 8 out of 13 routes, 2 of them shortened due to low (read as 0) ridership, we have had over 100 positive cases and 4 deaths so far, it gets scary and very real when you sign on for the day.

I'm also still working. Tried working from home but when you're trying to manage 15 staff some of them take advantage with no manager on site. 750 people usually work where I am, down to around 250 split over 3 shifts at the moment and as we are a facilities provider we have to be there if they have staff on site. They have 1 less on site now as we were given the sad news on Friday that he had died, suspected COVID-19 victim. Never went to hospital as he didn't want to so died at home. He won't be included in the statistics you see each day, as won't many others  :(

Trying to make sense of gov requirements here in Qld for state border restrictions (Qld/NSW).
91 year old parent living in northern NSW who members of the family normally visit at least once per week for shopping, etc but with border restrictions in place may or may not be possible.  Official announcements say conflicting things, even gov web sites have differing statements.  ???
Clarity and consistency would be nice for a change. :confused1:

Yes it's a bit of a mess up there from what I see on the TV.

Has someone declared an end to the lockdown in England?

Did one of my bike rides today and on these quiet Lincolnshire lanes I would usually see only three or four cars being driven, and a small number of delivery vans and farm vehicles. This has been the norm since the lockdown began.

Today the delivery vans and farm vehicle numbers were the same, but the number of cars had increased to somewhere like twelve or more.

Since coming home and resting in my lounge it is also very obvious that the number of cars passing has significantly increased, almost back to the normal 5pm to 6pm quantity. It's a quiet country road, and of late maybe five or six cars would pass in that hour. I've seen/heard at least twenty today, which is almost the pre-virus number,

And a few minutes ago a group of four teenage girls on cycles rode noisily by in close formation.

:censored: :censored: :censored:

It's not dissimilar here today.
We too have fairly quiet lanes but today there has been a marked increase in vehicles (particularly cars) compared to the last three weeks.
First thing this morning when we did our daily walk (8.45 ish) it was quiet but particularly since lunchtime it has been much busier.
It's a worrying trend if it continues suggesting that perhaps people are starting to disregard the advice.

Quote from: port perran on April 14, 2020, 06:51:52 PM
It's not dissimilar here today.
We too have fairly quiet lanes but today there has been a marked increase in vehicles (particularly cars) compared to the last three weeks.
First thing this morning when we did our daily walk (8.45 ish) it was quiet but particularly since lunchtime it has been much busier.
It's a worrying trend if it continues suggesting that perhaps people are starting to disregard the advice.

Maybe they've finally run out of their stockpiled bog roll  :D

I've just read about a family of 4 from Middlesex who yesterday attempted to drive to the Lake District for a day out. According to Lancashire police, who turned them back, they thought it was OK because they were wearing masks and gloves ::) :veryangry:

QuoteIt's a worrying trend if it continues suggesting that perhaps people are starting to disregard the advice.

Or maybe there better at maths than the government. The initial lock down began on 23 march for 3 week unless we heard different,those 3 weeks ended yesterday,The government,being it usual efficient self didn't manage to pass the legislation until  26 march,quietly extending the initial lockdown period by 3 days.

Some companies who put their staff on furlough are calling staff back so rush hour will be noticeable again.

Heaven help us if they lift the lockdown in three days time! :o

I hope they leave it in place for a long time yet. Lifting restrictions too early will be an experiment that I believe we will regret for ever.

From the Railway perspective, if they lift the lockdown too early they will have hotspots of positive cases, that will be brought onto trains and into stations, everything starts again, also consider railways all over the globe are running a slimmed down operation and still struggling to get healthy workers to operate that, if full service is attempted who will operate the trains, and remember more people equals more exposure and potentially a higher sick/staff shortage problem.

Quote from: daffy on April 14, 2020, 08:51:58 PM
Heaven help us if they lift the lockdown in three days time! :o

I hope they leave it in place for a long time yet. Lifting restrictions too early will be an experiment that I believe we will regret for ever.

The lockdown has still allowed people to work if they cannot work at home and their businesses allowed.  Around here tradesmen who work on sites with no public never stopped.

I also suspect those working from home are being told to come in to be checked up on by their bosses, even if only for one day.

At our factory  the Extremely vulnerable are on 12weeks isolation on full pay.
As of the beginning of the week the merely vulnerable  were offered the chance to come go to work as the company had arranged distancing.

Those without medical conditions have continued working.

I myself have things  on the vulnerable list, but am also susceptible to malignant hyperpyrexia under anesthesia,  which means I'd be in serious trouble if I had to be anesthetized . Also malignant hyperpyrexia can be triggered by stress and high temperatures..

So not surprisingly I turned the offer down,  so I'm still at home on full pay although I have a little work I can do which takes about an hour a day.

Back to work tomorrow, full time  :(

From what we see on the news over here, lifting restrictions in the UK at the moment would indeed be crazy.

Yes, I'm aware that there are a lot of folks working hereabouts in line with the lockdown, from farmers, to service industries, tradesman of all sorts, and others.

My concern is that if we move too soon to swell those numbers on the basis of economics alone we may live (or more will die) to regret it. Public health and economics must both be served, and at the moment I believe protection from Covid-19 must hold sway over economic need.

I'm simply saying that IMHO the time has not yet come in Britain to relax the vigil.

What they don't want to tell you is they need a steady controlled rate of infection so in a couple of years no one in the UK will be vulnerable.

If you stop it completely, as in China you will spend years paranoid as a society it will start again.

We all have to catch it sometime, my preference is to catch it by vaccination.

I agree, a successful targeted vaccine program has to be the goal for the entire World.  The problem at the moment is that that is a long way off, and the evidence is not there to demonstrate that anyone who survives a Covid-19 infection will gain any meaningful (i.e. longer than short term) immunity without a vaccine.
And as we all now know, no-one can predict the outcome of any single instance of Covid-19 infection, no matter what age, sex, or pre-infection health state of an individual.

Shopping this morning at Tescos was a relatively civilised affair (09.45)
Queued for about 15 minutes to get in. Got everything needed. The odd eejit who can't follow directional arrows or thinks reversing into that aisle is perfectly OK ::)
Back home an hour later.

Very civilised at Morrisons and Lidl this morning and quite quiet.
We got everything on our list (plus a few extras eg biscuits and cakes  :D).
Everyone behaving themselves pretty well apart from the odd person who stops dead (completely oblivious to everyone else) in the middle of the aisle to consult their list and thus causing the whole shop to come to a standstill.

Quote from: port perran on April 15, 2020, 12:32:32 PM
We got everything on our list (plus a few extras eg biscuits and cakes  :D).

Beware.......................

Only in the Isle of Man! (hopefully?)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-52286369?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-52286369?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story)

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 15, 2020, 12:36:24 PM

Quote from: port perran on April 15, 2020, 12:32:32 PM
We got everything on our list (plus a few extras eg biscuits and cakes  :D).

Beware.......................

if I could turn back time  :smiley-laughing:

Quote from: Young Bulla on April 15, 2020, 01:42:31 PM
Only in the Isle of Man! (hopefully?)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-52286369?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-52286369?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story)

The law is the law, whether we agree with it or not. There were seven arrested in Ireland over the Easter weekend for breaching our lock down rules.

Quote from: Young Bulla on April 15, 2020, 01:42:31 PM
Only in the Isle of Man! (hopefully?)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-52286369?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-52286369?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story)

If you mean hopefully people are only flouting the law in the IoM then I could agree. If you mean hopefully only in the IoM are they being jailed then I could agree. A stupendous fine that makes their eyes (and their parents eyes) water is far more justifiable. Bring back the stocks I say. I'd be happy to pelt them with suitable soft veg like turnips and/or beets from 2 metres away >:D

Fine them then force them to work, unpaid of course, in a mortuary or undertakers for a month.

My grandfather was a warder at the Scrubs, one of his duties was to administer the birch, he said nobody came back for seconds! (he was a well built fellow)

It's not the sentence given, just wondering why anyone in their right mind decides that calling round and taking your grandparents dog out for two or three hours is a good idea when you claim to have coronavirus  symptoms is a better use of their time than actually turning up to take a test!


Edit- the local jungle drums point to this not being this gentleman's first rodeo, why is that not a surprise

I'd like to know how much you guys are drinking since being confined to barracks.

I'm drinking one and a half bottles of wine per day.

Is this enough/too much ?

Best regards,


Joe

Quote from: joe cassidy on April 22, 2020, 01:30:15 PM
I'd like to know how much you guys are drinking since being confined to barracks.

I'm drinking one and a half bottles of wine per day.

Is this enough/too much ?

Best regards,


Joe

Red or white?

Both !

2 glasses of Kir (white wine + creme de cassis) for the aperitif then 2 glasses of red wine with lunch/dinner so total 8 glasses per day.

I'm hoping that Weave will outdo me  :)

Sounds fine to me. ;)

You'll know when it's a problem when you think about fitting an intravenous drip.

Sounds about right to me.
I like a beer before our evening meal (bottled in the week but we have draught delivered on a Friday for the weekend From the microbrewery down the road).
Plus I collect and really enjoy single malts (Scottish and world wide) so generally have a Small nip of something expensive followed by a large cheaper one in the evening.  Sante.

Amazing what having a small child in the house does to booze consumption.

Had a 4 pack of (you guessed it) Corona in the fridge since Christmas. Had one on my Birthday (28/03) and the rest is still there.

One fringe benefit of all this is the real progress I am making in my workbench.

Now over 50% through decals on my ARC wagon rake, when I was only 2 decals done (out of 180) when this all kicked off....

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Stay safe

Skyline2uk

must admit to 'upping' my intake a tad .... :-[

usually a 1 ltr bottle of Tesco's / Asda's pale cream fortified wine a day [ if it's fortified it must be medicinal, yes  >:D]

in accordance with the latest published [on this forum] advice I can start, in accordance with section 23 [not home educating children] at 10 am, which means a glass before taking HB out for his walk [pre-hydrating, it's hot out there] then when we get back another glass, well I'm thirsty having fed him up to 2 pints of water during his walk, then it sort of continues till bed time / the bottle is empty. :beers:

never could understand the symbols on the bottle  :smiley-laughing:

Quote from: joe cassidy on April 22, 2020, 01:30:15 PM
I'd like to know how much you guys are drinking since being confined to barracks.

I'm drinking one and a half bottles of wine per day.

Is this enough/too much ?

Best regards,


Joe

it is very important in this hot weather that you hydrate, ie take in fluids  :beers:

Quote from: TrevL on April 22, 2020, 01:34:19 PM

Quote from: joe cassidy on April 22, 2020, 01:30:15 PM
I'd like to know how much you guys are drinking since being confined to barracks.

I'm drinking one and a half bottles of wine per day.

Is this enough/too much ?

Best regards,


Joe

Red or white?

perhaps he swings both ways  :smiley-laughing:

QuoteI'd like to know how much you guys are drinking since being confined to barracks.

A dam sight less.Down to 8 pints a week at the moment,my poor liver is wondering what the hells going on.

Quote from: joe cassidy on April 22, 2020, 01:38:09 PM

2 glasses of Kir (white wine + creme de cassis) for the aperitif then 2 glasses of red wine with lunch/dinner so total 8 glasses per day.

I would only start worrying if you add breakfast to those 2 meals :worried:

Still the occasional glass of mead in the evening or alcoholic ginger beer for thirst quenching during/after a bit of gardening

Normally one large whisky on a Saturday evening,  unless doing heavy work in the garden.  Then a can of cider during that.
Of course as I'm not working for the duration ,  everyday is a gardening day,  and there's a lot of Saturdays..

I alternate my evenings with a couple of fingers of either Baileys or Southern Comfort.
Mind you...............................

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I've discovered an enhancement for custard on puddings - a dash of Advocaat, doesn't need much, I reckon a bottle should last me about a month or so.

I think I need to drink more.........

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90+ beers in the cupboard plus a dozen or so in the chiller and around 20 in the loft beer fridge. Should last a couple of weeks yet  :P

I've stopped myself from buying spirits, I started to find it pretty easy to consume a litre of gin over 7 days which ain't good.  I do love a G&T but its far better to be biting your knuckles to resist when you pass the booze aisle in the supermarket rather than pickling your liver.

SWIMBO is doing well on the wine though, she's already on her 4th bottle this week! :worried:

Coffee in the VW this morning.
Even if it is only the bottom of our garden.

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Plus.....treated Bertie to a polish and spring clean plus a whole 2 mile spin around the block to make sure he doesn't seize up (Unlike me 😄).
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Bertie looks stunning Martin. and seems to be in superb condition. I love the T2 eyebrows.  :thumbsup:

Nice.  Good job I'm not the stalker type as I've just found Bertie on Google maps :wave:

Lovely example of a Westfalia :thumbsup: I once'd owned a Helsinki Left hooker originally owned by a German professor, I was the fourth owner. Had an AP 1.8 engine which in my opinion was probably one of the smoothest and best air cooled engines VW made.

I admit to having tittered at this.................

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The cleaner meant well. Obviously did not know the Dewey system

I have the added delight of being shielded - it's proving expensive as it gives me too much time to shop.   :)

Back to work tomorrow, the oil and gas industry is important to keep the lights on and fuel on the forecourts so they need their gauges and pressure sensors calibrated and monitoring systems re-furbished and rebuilt so yours truly will be back in the workshop this week

Ventured out yesterday for food shopping, first time in 10 days, and noted a few changes.

Food stocks at Tesco better, with no shortages of the things we needed, and most stock looks to be high. All good there then.

Now the bad signs:

Very few people wearing either gloves or masks compared to my last trip.

Most shoppers only seemed to by buying small amounts, a carrier bag or two's worth, suggesting more frequent shopping trips.

More instances in store of members of the public being far less bothered with the '2 metre social distancing' rule, or following the one-way system around the store.

More instances of couples rather than lone shoppers, even some with their young children in tow.

More cars on the road in general - this was between 10:30 and 12:00am.

—————

Worrying trends, given that daily cases in the UK are still being reported at over 4000 a day, and recorded hospital deaths are still high (last 24 hours 360).


This is not the time to be complacent, and the virus will take advantage of any weakness in the strategy to control it.

I tend to agree.

Several restrictions are being lifted here over the course of the coming week, and Australia's virus statistics are much lower than the UK's.

Economies and peoples' livelihoods have of course to be taken into account, but I would prefer governments to err on the side of caution rather than rush into this.

QuoteMore instances of couples rather than lone shoppers, even some with their young children in tow.

This is a key point that has to be covered. There are far too many "grey areas" in the advice / laws in the U.K. for my liking and it's causing problems.

I agree with @daffy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5634) in that couples with children should not all go shopping now. I am certainly going shopping on my own for the entire household.

HOWEVER

Having a close family friend "shamed" by a store worker because as a single mother she has NO CHOICE but take her young daughter with her REALLY gets me  :veryangry:

Judging people without knowing circumstances is plain wrong. We are all really "in it" right now and the last thing anybody needs is some jobsworth having a pop.

Be kind and safe.

Skyline2uk

It's certainly getting busier around here.
For a few weeks the lane at the bottom of our road was very quiet. The last week has seen a significant increase in the amount of traffic going by.
One thing I noticed in Morrison's last week was the huge increase in the amount of employees acting as "pickers" for home deliveries and clicK and collect. We counted a good dozen (probably more) all with extra big trollies really getting in the way of us ordinary shoppers and generally making life difficult in trying to social distance from them. Incidentally none were wearing gloves or masks.
It seems to me a good idea to employ the pickers when the store is closed.

Out of the house at 07:30 this morning for the rat run to Tesco Metro. Our local store isn't massive but is still quite big and stocks pretty much all what we require.

I've found early Tuesday or Wednesday mornings the best time to go. Today I estimated about 8 shoppers in there, which makes things a lot easier for social distancing as most still seem to be ignoring this government order!

Mrs Sprue has done an excellent job with food management, limiting my trip to the store down to just once every 10 days.

When the lockdown was imposed we decided that only one of us goes out for provisions to hopefully limit the risk, which I was volunteered to do. Its only when you get involved with shopping you begin to realise what the other half has to put up with every week.

Filling that trolley up and bagging up the goods has made me really appreciate this task she does and one that I have taken so much for granted!  :-[

A positive outcome, then.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: Bealman on April 28, 2020, 10:44:34 AM
A positive outcome, then.  :thumbsup:

I think that would be an understatement!  ;)

Quote from: port perran on April 28, 2020, 10:29:17 AM

One thing I noticed in Morrison's last week was the huge increase in the amount of employees acting as "pickers" for home deliveries and clicK and collect. We counted a good dozen (probably more) all with extra big trollies really getting in the way of us ordinary shoppers and generally making life difficult in trying to social distance from them. Incidentally none were wearing gloves or masks.
It seems to me a good idea to employ the pickers when the store is closed.

Most companies the majority of the picking is done when the store is quiet but the huge increase in demand has meant this is not possible. 
For instance Tescos pre virus maximum of click and deliver was 560,000 orders per day,  it's now over a million and with expected expansion of the service to be 1.2 million orders per day in a couple of weeks.

Outside  London some of the companies have non customer stores only used for click and deliver.

I've never known supermaket shopping to be so enjoyable. With my wife being an NHS nurse it means she goes at 'special' times and I'm not allowed to go. Plus she gets 10% off at Morrisons for being NHS. I've never had it so good!

QuoteVery few people wearing either gloves or masks compared to my last trip.

Wonder how many glove wearers wash or disinfect there gloves between  use? I refuse to use morrisons since the cashier couldn't/ wouldnt  clean or change there gloves between customers.

In vulnerable NHS category due to (mild, well under control) asthma, I'm fortunate my employer asked all but about 60 staff (fortunately not me!) to work from home.
I'm still going out for early morning daily exercise and essential shopping trips - that's OK according to Asthma UK's website.
However people have criticised me for not travelling far - I haven't used public transport for about 5 weeks and the furthest I've been since lockdown has been about 1/2 mile radius from home on foot.
Fortunately I have a wide choice of medium sized supermarkets and mini convenience stores where I don't need to stand in a queue for long!  :claphappy:
My nearest Iceland store has the 5-6 pm slot exclusively available for NHS staff :thumbsup:

Quote from: gc4946 on April 28, 2020, 09:37:25 PM
My nearest Iceland store has the 5-6 pm slot exclusively available for NHS staff :thumbsup:

I send the wife there too especially for shrimps  :thumbsup:

Quote from: themadhippy on April 28, 2020, 09:32:21 PM

QuoteVery few people wearing either gloves or masks compared to my last trip.

Wonder how many glove wearers wash or disinfect there gloves between  use? I refuse to use morrisons since the cashier couldn't/ wouldnt  clean or change there gloves between customers.

Evidently a lot of people don't wash the gloves. They just chuck up on the car park floor where they were parked. :veryangry:

I have three masks my wife made, and that's one to wear, one to wash, and one kept in the car in case I forget to take one with me.

I got a pack of 300 plastic gloves, gave half to a mate, keep some in the car, new pair going into Tescos or other shop bin them when I get home. Amazon had masks listed but reviews were dire and delivery was about 4 to 5 weeks so didn't bother, I only go out when I run out of milk, usually 8 or 9 days, plus a couple of runs to collect some gardening stuff, paid for over phone; on one run the stuff was heavy bags of compost, so he said open the back and get back in the car which I did and he loaded it for me.

Tesco shopping quite civilized this morning, apart from the usual dolts who can't read directional arrows. Got everything needed for Mum and self apart from Vitamin D tablets which were completely sold out.

Quote from: Trainfish on April 28, 2020, 09:52:34 PM

Quote from: gc4946 on April 28, 2020, 09:37:25 PM
My nearest Iceland store has the 5-6 pm slot exclusively available for NHS staff :thumbsup:

I send the wife there too especially for shrimps  :thumbsup:

How frequent are the flights?

I have not been outside the house since the week before lockdown on Consultants advice as I am one of the million plus being shielded.

It has its advantages as I don't have to go out shopping, can spend the day doing model railways, some online shopping for those modelling essentials.

The layout has moved on in the last few weeks

Haven't got a clue what it is like past our property boundary except for watching real trains pass the house, but that is surreal, it's like watching model trains go by ie No Passengers

Stay Safe and Well

Mike H  8)

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 29, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
Tesco shopping quite civilized this morning, apart from the usual dolts who can't read directional arrows. Got everything needed for Mum and self apart from Vitamin D tablets which were completely sold out.

Hi

Probably because earlier in the week or late last week someone mentioned that vitamin D could help protect you against the virus.

My wife bought some a few weeks ago from Holland and Barrett but I guess they are probably sold out now too.

Cheers

Paul

@Nbodger (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8543)

Just love that username!  :)

Quote from: Mr Sprue on April 29, 2020, 08:55:34 PM
@Nbodger (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8543)

Just love that username!  :)

Reflects my modelling capabilities  :doh:

Mike H  8)

Quote from: PaulCheffus on April 29, 2020, 08:51:59 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 29, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
Tesco shopping quite civilized this morning, apart from the usual dolts who can't read directional arrows. Got everything needed for Mum and self apart from Vitamin D tablets which were completely sold out.

Hi

Probably because earlier in the week or late last week someone mentioned that vitamin D could help protect you against the virus.

My wife bought some a few weeks ago from Holland and Barrett but I guess they are probably sold out now too.

Cheers

Paul

Interesting. Been taking one a day since I got out of hospital last year.

Quote from: PaulCheffus on April 29, 2020, 08:51:59 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 29, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
Tesco shopping quite civilized this morning, apart from the usual dolts who can't read directional arrows. Got everything needed for Mum and self apart from Vitamin D tablets which were completely sold out.

Hi

Probably because earlier in the week or late last week someone mentioned that vitamin D could help protect you against the virus.

Is bleach sold out too?  :D

Only in the US

Quote from: Trainfish on April 30, 2020, 12:58:03 AM
Only in the US

I thought that was Dettol!

Quote from: railsquid on April 30, 2020, 12:28:36 AM

Quote from: PaulCheffus on April 29, 2020, 08:51:59 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on April 29, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
Tesco shopping quite civilized this morning, apart from the usual dolts who can't read directional arrows. Got everything needed for Mum and self apart from Vitamin D tablets which were completely sold out.

Hi

Probably because earlier in the week or late last week someone mentioned that vitamin D could help protect you against the virus.

Is bleach sold out too?  :D

Nah - that just sends you clean round the bend :uneasy:

 :laughabovepost: I just love your wit Mick  :D

For those of you that may have not clearly understood what Boris was saying in his announcement last night  regarding his 'Conditional Plan' in the first steps of relaxing self isolation, this video should make things a little more clear!

Quote from: Mr Sprue on May 11, 2020, 12:13:10 PM
For those of you that may have not clearly understood what Boris was saying in his announcement last night  regarding his 'Conditional Plan' in the first steps of relaxing self isolation, this video should make things a little more clear!

I'm sorry but the situation is far too serious to make fun of any politician at the moment.  they are all doing their best and what they do might just save your life.  Undermining them in any way is dangerous.  So I think comedians and a lot of journalists should all go back into their boxes.

Yes totally agree with you the situation is far too serious to make fun of any politician at the moment. Exactly the reason I posted this video.

For one avoiding anything political, the announcement that was delivered to the nation last night was anything but clear, there are many people confused today of what 'conditional plan' really means!

So apologies if my post offends I was making a point not looking for laughs! 

I would say the current plan is what was really intended from the start, but considered too complicated to get over to the public quickly - just "be careful".

Work from home if you can, but if not, go to your workplace as long as safe distancing and cleanliness can be assured or other measures have been put in place. You may have to travel in different ways or at different times, due to lack of capacity on public transport. You do not have to stay in your home, but don't go out too often and don't gather with friends and family from outside your household. Kicking a ball around with members of your household is fine, but not with other people. You can travel to go to somewhere quiet for a walk or just to enjoy a bit of a break, but don't do it if it's becoming too busy there. Keep your distance from all who are not members of your household and isolate yourself if you show any sign of illness or have been in contact with someone who has.

Basically, use common sense and judgement (sadly lacking in some people); assess the situation yourself and respond accordingly.

Quote from: Snowwolflair on May 11, 2020, 01:16:54 PM
I'm sorry but the situation is far too serious to make fun of any politician at the moment.  they are all doing their best and what they do might just save your life.  Undermining them in any way is dangerous.  So I think comedians and a lot of journalists should all go back into their boxes.

I have to totally agree as one of the 1.5 million people in the UK being shielded and not seen past the house boundary since lockdown. Not even been able to take our dogs for a walk and desperate to go for a long walk as I normally did.

Stay safe and take care

Mike H 8)

I'd vote for @stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329)  if you run for PM in the future. That was far easier to understand in a lot less words. You will have to re-invent common sense though, it seems to be rather lacking in places right now.

Where I live near Romford (London Borough of Havering) Judging by the numbers of people in my local high street and the volume of traffic today, you would have thought the lockdown had ended!

So the way I saw this situation either people are now just bored and blatantly ignoring government orders or confused about the PM's announcement last night.   

P.S My car journey today was a necessary outing for my work! 

The railway companies need to go back to compartmental coaching stock.

Just in case you want to read the entire 50 page Covid 19 Recovery Strategy as just issued by the UK Government, here it is.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/884171/FINAL_6.6637_CO_HMG_C19_Recovery_FINAL_110520_v2_WEB__1_.pdf

Avoids the spin and opinion added by press outlets.

Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on May 11, 2020, 04:34:34 PM
The railway companies need to go back to compartmental coaching stock.

In the current situation that wouldn't be a bad idea.

I don't know about the underground though, this picture was supposedly taken this morning, so I guess these people also didn't clearly understand the PMs announcement last night!

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Quote from: Nbodger on May 11, 2020, 03:28:09 PM

Quote from: Snowwolflair on May 11, 2020, 01:16:54 PM
I'm sorry but the situation is far too serious to make fun of any politician at the moment.  they are all doing their best and what they do might just save your life.  Undermining them in any way is dangerous.  So I think comedians and a lot of journalists should all go back into their boxes.

I have to totally agree as one of the 1.5 million people in the UK being shielded and not seen past the house boundary since lockdown. Not even been able to take our dogs for a walk and desperate to go for a long walk as I normally did.

Stay safe and take care

Mike H 8)

I'm lucky in that although shielding,  I live out in the countryside,  taking the dog out each day,  in the last six weeks I've seen six people,  Two pairs and two singles ( one of those my neighbour shielding due to cancer) .  At each meeting, I or they moved back into the nearest gap in the hedge,  or gateway and the the other passed by on the far side of the lane.

Quote from: The Q on May 11, 2020, 06:10:12 PM
I'm lucky in that although shielding,  I live out in the countryside,  taking the dog out each day,  in the last six weeks I've seen six people,  Two pairs and two singles ( one of those my neighbour shielding due to cancer) .  At each meeting, I or they moved back into the nearest gap in the hedge,  or gateway and the the other passed by on the far side of the lane.

My friend you are very lucky indeed.

Here in London we have the highest death rate in the UK and while our household along with many in the area are adhering to the isolation requirements, we are blessed with mindless idiots in neighbouring streets who have held VE Day parties!

So its no wonder I feel pretty peeved off with our PM's bumbling speech. I do respect our government is trying its best to fumble its way through this pandemic for us, but from where I am standing and what I have witnessed today we will be heading for another spike if people are not told clearly what to do, as it is quite evident that there many who do not possess common sense or are able to use their brains!

Quote from: Mr Sprue on May 11, 2020, 07:41:09 PM

My friend you are very lucky indeed.

Here in London we have the highest death rate in the UK and while our household along with many in the area are adhering to the isolation requirements, we are blessed with mindless idiots in neighbouring streets who have held VE Day parties!

So its no wonder I feel pretty peeved off with our PM's bumbling speech. I do respect our government is trying its best to fumble its way through this pandemic for us, but from where I am standing and what I have witnessed today we will be heading for another spike if people are not told clearly what to do, as it is quite evident that there many who do not possess common sense or are able to use their brains!

I can sympathise with you comments regarding the London area and the last thing we need is a spike in cases.

We are lucky here in East Yorkshire with few cases compared to the south of the country. I live in small town of some 10,000 people, although on the edge with access to country walks at the end of our road. I usually walk our dogs down these paths and along the banks of the Humber and usually see very few people. Since I have been sheltering as instructed by the hospital, my wife has had to take the dogs out, she has tried different times of the day but the country walks have become like Piccadilly Circus with people jogging, walking and some trying to stroke the dogs which are walked off lead.

Mike H  8)

@Nbodger (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8543)

In the London Borough of Havering Mike we have just short of 260,000, so at this moment in time I envy you guys residing in the lower populated areas.

However I sort of still like living in the Essex end of London as there are many places at your reach and much to do. but having said that I still after all these years miss my beloved Isle of Wight, especially with all this going on I wouldn't mind being back there!

Stay clean ....Stay safe
Dave

Lockdown ended in France yesterday.

This morning 'Er indoors went back to being 'Er at the office.

As a 'rock & roller' no change for me.

Yeehah :claphappy:
According to Motor Cycle News the government is allowing us bikers out as from tomorrow provided social distancing is maintained :thumbsup:
Must stay in England, though. :)

Quote from: daffy on May 11, 2020, 05:41:59 PM
Just in case you want to read the entire 50 page Covid 19 Recovery Strategy as just issued by the UK Government, here it is.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/884171/FINAL_6.6637_CO_HMG_C19_Recovery_FINAL_110520_v2_WEB__1_.pdf

Avoids the spin and opinion added by press outlets.

Completely agree and the document sets out the governments pathway well. It makes sober reading. It also encourages people to use a bit of commonsense instead of the public's desire to be micromanaged.

Quote from: Newportnobby on May 12, 2020, 12:03:09 PM
Yeehah :claphappy:
According to Motor Cycle News the government is allowing us bikers out as from tomorrow provided social distancing is maintained :thumbsup:
Must stay in England, though. :)

Well that wont be too much of an issue if your behind an R1 Mick!  :D

QuoteAccording to Motor Cycle News the government is allowing us bikers out as from tomorrow provided social distancing is maintained

wonder if banks and petrol stations will still insist you remove your skid lid?

Quote from: themadhippy on May 12, 2020, 06:13:06 PM

QuoteAccording to Motor Cycle News the government is allowing us bikers out as from tomorrow provided social distancing is maintained

wonder if banks and petrol stations will still insist you remove your skid lid?

Now that my friend is a very good point taking into consideration that a lot of people have been walking into Garages and stores with their faces covered ......like it! :thumbsup:

My daughter just pointed out that The Rocky Horror Picture show will be the first back after the lock down as the audience wear surgical masks, gloves and gowns anyway.


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