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Title: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: Deltic1981 on April 23, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
Sounds daft but I'm having trouble finding Cream coloured paint preferably spray.
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 23, 2018, 05:37:14 PM
Due to its chemistry enamel gloss cream paint almost always yellows with age.  Paint in a mat cream and spray with a polyurethane (or acrylic) gloss varnish is the best way round this I have found.
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: ntpntpntp on April 23, 2018, 07:54:19 PM
I used this recently to re-do some Minitrix teak coach roofs that had been repainted.  From one of our local DIY stores, probably Homebase (now Bunnings)

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Satin varnish as a top coat (I don't like full gloss on small scale models)
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: njee20 on April 23, 2018, 08:47:19 PM
Acrylic varnish on top of enamels can end badly too, I'd avoid that combo.
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 23, 2018, 08:53:31 PM
yes you cannot be in a hurry.  Two to three days minimum for any paint to dry without reacting.
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: dannyboy on April 23, 2018, 10:17:17 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on April 23, 2018, 07:54:19 PM


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5885-230418195027.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64488)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5885-230418195059.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64489)


Not sure if I am missing something, but the can says 'Craft Enamel' and further down 'fast drying acrylic spray paint'.  The label on the top says 'Acrylic'. Can you have an 'enamel acrylic'?  :confused2:
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 23, 2018, 10:22:26 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 23, 2018, 10:17:17 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on April 23, 2018, 07:54:19 PM


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5885-230418195027.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64488)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5885-230418195059.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64489)


Not sure if I am missing something, but the can says 'Craft Enamel' and further down 'fast drying acrylic spray paint'.  The label on the top says 'Acrylic'. Can you have an 'enamel acrylic'?  :confused2:

Wikipedia definition



Enamel paint is paint that air dries to a hard, usually glossy, finish, used for coating surfaces that are outdoors or otherwise subject to hard wear or variations in temperature; it should not be confused with decorated objects in "painted enamel", where vitreous enamel is applied with brushes and fired in a kiln. The name is something of a misnomer, as in reality, most commercially available enamel paints are significantly softer than either vitreous enamel or stoved synthetic resins, and are totally different in composition; vitreous enamel is applied as a powder or paste and then fired at high temperature. There is no generally accepted definition or standard for use of the term enamel paint, and not all enamel-type paints may use it.

Typically the term "enamel paint" is used to describe oil-based covering products, usually with a significant amount of gloss in them, however recently many latex or water-based paints have adopted the term as well. The term today means "hard surfaced paint" and usually is in reference to paint brands of higher quality, floor coatings of a high gloss finish, or spray paints. Most enamel paints are alkyd resin based. Some enamel paints have been made by adding varnish to oil-based paint.
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: dannyboy on April 23, 2018, 10:25:36 PM
Right, got that ........... but is it enamel or acrylic?  ;D
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 23, 2018, 10:28:16 PM
It seems that it has become a description of hardness not chemical composition.  So you can have an acrylic enamel, not that I would trust it  :D
Title: Re: Gloss Cream Paint Needed.
Post by: dannyboy on April 23, 2018, 10:33:22 PM
It's irrelevant now anyway -

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41202.msg504663;topicseen#msg504663 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41202.msg504663;topicseen#msg504663)