Garage petrol scam's

[FeelixTC]

4x4s can be a very important vehicle to those of us living out in the sticks.

It should be an essential part of the sale that a proof of frequent need for off road performance is required.

Why?? They don't ask you to run, before you buy a pair of trainers at JD Sports..............

[Malc]

Why?? They don't ask you to run, before you buy a pair of trainers at JD Sports..............

No, but the should

[Sprintex]

That's what they're made for, not for the quarter mile each way school run and maybe half mile Tesco trip, and the only time they go off road is when they park on the pavement!

Most of them qualify for the "Chelsea Tractor" title.

It's the cited reason behind driving a large 4x4 that some of the parents have that bothers me. Usually it's "because it's safer for my precious child" - true, but how is that parent going to feel if they are unfortunate enough to T-bone that Ford Fiesta with three kids in and kill the occupants where a smaller car would have just caused damage and minor injuries?

Fair enough if you need the traction, ground clearance, towing-weight, etc of a 4x4 as there is clearly a need for them, and mostly you find that those that DO need them are the ones that drive them accordingly


Paul

[Agrippa]

I always thought John Terry was the original "Chelsea tractor", if he ran into you
you'd get a few dents and scrapes....

[Sprintex]

Must be something to do with sport I'm guessing since I've no idea who he is


Paul

[trainsdownunder]

I always thought John Terry was the original "Chelsea tractor", if he ran into you
you'd get a few dents and scrapes....

No that was "Chopper" Harris but now we're going 

[Kipper]

Getting back on original topic - I am a retired Trading Standards Officer (cover blown now), and can assure you all that the pump does not lie (just tells little fibs). When testing pumps, using certified measures, we have to put the exact amount in, and can do it quite easily, as we are in no rush, and use the nozzle at slow speeds as the measure reaches the marked graduation. Most drivers fill at full nozzle speed, until the nozzle "clicks", and then try to put more in. The gentle squeeze is a knack to be learnt! As the pump is running full chat, the hose tends to dilate when the nozzle clicks, and that is why some find they cannot get the pump to stop at the exact point they want. It is best to fill the tank slowly, to avoid this happening and, (believe it or not) slow deliveries usually give slight over measure, which is why we test both fast and slow deliveries.

[Griffo]

Getting back on original topic - I am a retired Trading Standards Officer (cover blown now), and can assure you all that the pump does not lie (just tells little fibs). When testing pumps, using certified measures, we have to put the exact amount in, and can do it quite easily, as we are in no rush, and use the nozzle at slow speeds as the measure reaches the marked graduation. Most drivers fill at full nozzle speed, until the nozzle "clicks", and then try to put more in. The gentle squeeze is a knack to be learnt! As the pump is running full chat, the hose tends to dilate when the nozzle clicks, and that is why some find they cannot get the pump to stop at the exact point they want. It is best to fill the tank slowly, to avoid this happening and, (believe it or not) slow deliveries usually give slight over measure, which is why we test both fast and slow deliveries.

And, as a retired service station manager, .... what he says!

[Oldun]

While we are on the subject of fuel/petrol prices. Over the last three months the benchmark price
of oil 'Brent Crude' has dropped from $118.40 per barrel to $78.42 per barrel. Has anyone seen a
real drop in fuel prices in proportion to the actual base cost

Allowing for the fixed duty rate and VAT, we should (if the drop is passed on) be paying at the pumps
109.9^p per Ltr. That's not allowing for 'promotional' price reductions by the garage/outlet.

Roger

[Kipper]

Petrol station in Sutton Road, Huthwaite (Notts), just off J28 of the M1, is selling unleaded at £117.9/litre. Anyone on the motorway would do well to divert off a coupe of miles. Not a mainstream brand, but still  fuel, and works in my car OK!

[MJKERR]

Over the last three months the benchmark price
of oil 'Brent Crude' has dropped from $118.40 per barrel to $78.42 per barrel.

We received our latest delivery yesterday
Unleaded was at the cost price of £1.13 per litre, Diesel was at the cost price of £1.19, based on the cost price of 11 November
We then put our unleaded and diesel prices down 2p per litre, £1.18 and £1.20, which rarely put us to the same price as our two marker sites (Asda and Tesco)


Deliveries can be anything between 6 and 28 days behind the cost price, as stock is consumed
It tends to be longer at the beginning of winter

[Oldun]

Deliveries can be anything between 6 and 28 days behind the cost price, as stock is consumed
It tends to be longer at the beginning of winter

I agree, the lower price of the base product is slow in manifesting itself as it filters through the system.

The bit that makes me and others think/know there is a fiddle going on with the oil companies is the
immediate rise in the fuel we buy as and when the base price increases

Roger

[mr bachmann]

thank you all for paying the extra - and subsudising my bus pass 

the car has been off the road sorn  for 10 year and I have 2 galls (10ltr) of 4 star - one in metal ready can and the other in plastic ready can , the metal can is still full but the plastic can is half full both caps are tight - even left both cans upside down for a couple of weeks - but not leaking , so the plastic can must be porous .

Alan

[Oldun]

the car has been off the road sorn  for 10 year and I have 2 galls (10ltr) of 4 star - one in metal ready can and the other in plastic ready can , the metal can is still full but the plastic can is half full both caps are tight - even left both cans upside down for a couple of weeks - but not leaking , so the plastic can must be porous .

You are correct Alan, plastic is porous but, it takes so long you don't actually notice it over a short period of time.

Over 10 years as you say it did show.

Roger

[Kipper]

And yogurt pots will dissolve on contact with petrol - as i found, many years ago, when cleaning my Ford Consul carburettor, and trying to save the small amount of fuel in it!