Dear all,
There has been an increase in swearing on the forum in recent weeks. This is against our Code of Conduct, and includes the thinly veiled attempts at swapping letters for symbols or leaving spaces between letters. Due to the recent frequency and the moderators being busy, we will therefore delete an entire post for including the word. This may also include us muting the member for a number of weeks as well.
Please report any that you see, as this is a busy forum and the team can't read every post!
Thanks for your help,
Tank.
Thanks for the advice I always avoid swearing on the site but is it still ok to swear at home. The other night I lost my internet at home and I could not log into my fav site, I am afraid I am guilty of swearing on that occasion. Keep safe.
;D Feel free, @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784) . There are no Mods at your house to delete anything, and it's another way of saving for more coal wagons if you have a swear box.
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 26, 2021, 08:28:06 PM
;D Feel free, @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784) . There are no Mods at your house
Your wrong there Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) swmbo would have something to say about it. I don't hold any hopes for the Wigan show this year, keeping my fingers crossed. Keep Safe.
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Out of curiosity, is this emoji option you offer considered swearing?
If the software recognises something that is not allowed, it substitutes that symbol... usually.
(That's my understanding of it - perhaps @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) can elaborate)
Quote from: Bealman on March 27, 2021, 06:00:52 AM
If the software recognises something that is not allowed, it substitutes that symbol... usually.
A friend was an admin on a photography forum and, being a Canon user, he changed the swear filter to replace "Nikon" with "Tonka" :D
Quote from: honestjudge on March 27, 2021, 05:21:08 AM
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Out of curiosity, is this emoji option you offer considered swearing?
Quote from: honestjudge on March 27, 2021, 05:21:08 AM
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Out of curiosity, is this emoji option you offer considered swearing?
Good question. I don't know the answer but would be good to know. I've used it a few times where the reader would probably know what it stood for but I thought I was being family friendly and forum correct by putting it in myself but maybe not???
Well, at the moment, it is there, available for use.
I think Tank is referring to words which start with the first letter and end with the last, so it is obvious what it is.
But the symbol is substituted for obviously offensive words.
Once again, we'll need Tank to clarify the situation with the censored symbol.
As I read it he means circumventing any filters by using alternative letters, like $h1p or putting spaces like "s h i p". It would be very odd to have an issue with either starring out words, or use of a "censored" emoji. The idea being that both conceal the word that you're (not) writing.
I'm always amused by this stance though in the interest of family friendliness - the users of Mumsnet use language which would make a navvy blush!
Another forum I'm a member of has a decent filter, you type exactly what you want and it simply stars anything inappropriate. Circumventing that like the above is a banable offence. Personally I've never tested that here, so no idea if there's any filter, other than the "large chicken" nonsense, it seems easier to just... y'know... not swear.
I typed "work" once. But I think I got away with it.
Yeah, well that's basically it. Please don't swear on the forum. :thumbsup:
Yes I would agree , don't swear. Then I wonder why are people swearing on a model train forum?
I know some people are really passionate about the hobby, but it seems to me that certain topics, mainly non N gauge, inspire the bad language.
Do we need an angry thread? I may be wrong but this seems to me where all the ranting comes from.
Quote from: Bealman on March 27, 2021, 08:12:54 AM
Yeah, well that's basically it. Please don't swear on the forum. :thumbsup:
Seconded; absolutely no need for it.
John
Quote from: honestjudge on March 27, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Yes I would agree , don't swear. Then I wonder why are people swearing on a model train forum?
I know some people are really passionate about the hobby, but it seems to me that certain topics, mainly non N gauge, inspire the bad language.
Do we need an angry thread? I may be wrong but this seems to me where all the ranting comes from.
We're all guilty of swearing at times in our lives. I'm as bad as anyone else. But I moderate my language around my clients and in social circles. Having a rage with/without swearing provides a proven chemical release in the brain which helps to reduce stress and anxiety.
That said, we can all cope without swearing on the forum, I was pulled up in my early days about character substitutions, but I try my best to avoid any further infringements.
Regards the 'Angry Thread', yes I think its perfectly acceptable. Again, venting provides the chemical release that helps us cope, and comfort is found by sharing frustrations, and solutions are frequently suggested following 'vents'. So its often a very positive thing. Let's not forget that some forum members, even pre-Covid, are somewhat isolated, whether its for health, personal or social reasons so I think it's a useful thread.
Opinions may vary...
Just in case
Does OO count as swearing? :hmmm:
Quote from: Nbodger on March 27, 2021, 10:17:41 AM
Just in case
Does OO count as swearing? :hmmm:
It does if you put a B in front and after. Very naughty.
Quote from: weave on March 27, 2021, 10:34:02 AM
Quote from: Nbodger on March 27, 2021, 10:17:41 AM
Just in case
Does OO count as swearing? :hmmm:
It does if you put a B in front and after. Very naughty.
Surely mention of
Sula nebouxii is OK?! :D
Quote from: honestjudge on March 27, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Do we need an angry thread? I may be wrong but this seems to me where all the ranting comes from.
But, Shirley, the two go hand in hand?
We are an angry race. Currently the Angry thread is far more popular than the Happy thread.....
Happy thread 342 pages
Angry thread 478 pages
Personally I will remove all ill concealed swearing using e.g. asterisks, spacing etc but am fine with the censored symbol as I like to let folks imagine what I was saying to myself should they desire.
My mother "How dare you swear in front of me?"
Me "Sorry - I didn't know it was your turn"
Well thats sorted that one then.
Now who the :censored: is Shirley?
Probably Alice's sister (nod to Chubby Brown, there)
Jeez, I checked in to see what subjects might be worth looking at this morning and the biggest topic by far is about swearing. Is there really so little else going on in the world of N right now that this hits top spot??
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2021, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: honestjudge on March 27, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Do we need an angry thread? I may be wrong but this seems to me where all the ranting comes from.
But, Shirley, the two go hand in hand?
We are an angry race. Currently the Angry thread is far more popular than the Happy thread.....
Happy thread 342 pages
Angry thread 478 pages
I think most of the angry thread can be put down to a few prolific posters.
But the whole point of the angry thread, surely, is to concentrate ill-tempered posts into one place, where they can be ignored. The oft-enjoined phrase is: if you don't want to be upset by it, don't read it.
Well one things for sure my little post pushed this post to the front, you can't beat a good discussion. Has for saying "OO" maybe swearing it is to some, let's face it the more people that get into model railways no matter what the gauge can only be a good thing.
Quote from: lil chris on March 27, 2021, 02:00:24 PM
Well one things for sure my little post pushed this post to the front, you can't beat a good discussion. Has for saying "OO" maybe swearing it is to some, let's face it the more people that get into model railways no matter what the gauge can only be a good thing.
Once hooked, they can always be re-educated :D
I think that any attempt to justify swearing is a load of :poop:.
Quote from: chrism on March 27, 2021, 02:11:49 PM
Quote from: lil chris on March 27, 2021, 02:00:24 PM
Well one things for sure my little post pushed this post to the front, you can't beat a good discussion. Has for saying "OO" maybe swearing it is to some, let's face it the more people that get into model railways no matter what the gauge can only be a good thing.
Once hooked, they can always be re-educated :D
@chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) I think you'll find the word is 'assimilated'. Resistance is futile >:D
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2021, 04:02:29 PM
Once hooked, they can always be re-educated :D
@chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) I think you'll find the word is 'assimilated'. Resistance is futile >:D
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Noooo, It's Volts divided by Amps.
Jon
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2021, 04:02:29 PM
@chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) I think you'll find the word is 'assimilated'. Resistance is futile >:D
Surely, the phrase is "
Existence is futile?!" >:D
Quote from: Nbodger on March 27, 2021, 10:17:41 AM
Just in case
Does OO count as swearing? :hmmm:
T
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OOdy right it does! :doh:
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The forum has a built in piece of coding to swap over any words that we feel are inappropriate to others. Sometimes it's hard to get it right with the context of the word, like 'male chicken', as that can be naughty! ;)
Those that add symbols or leave gaps in words just to show the word aren't very bright. ::) They may get around the filter, but when the moderators or myself read it, it's a ban. :scowl:
My surname has 'male chicken' (changed by forum) in it and I have often had an issue if I have had to use my full name on certain webpages. Not this one though as I don't put it on here :thumbsup:
Shouldn't "large chicken" read err...."large chicken"? I presume we are talking about a male chicken here. ???. Just wondering. ;)
I think you're just being a 'male chicken' (changed by forum) now David :D
Quote from: Trainfish on March 29, 2021, 10:14:28 AM
My surname has Large Chicken :) in it and I have often had an issue if I have had to use my full name on certain webpages. Not this one though as I don't put it on here :thumbsup:
I wonder if the swear filter could be set to only trigger on [space]Large Chicken[space] ??
That way (if it is possible, depends on how the coding works) it would allow your surname as well as legitimate words like StopLargeChicken or, even, the railways civil contractor BabLargeChicken.
I remember a dear friend on the national committee of my old trade union - a wonderfully gentle, inoffensive lady - being most upset when one of the words in one of her posts on the union message board had been asterisked out, leaving "s******ing* ... and she couldn't for the life of her remember what word she had used, but was convinced (as were we all) that it couldn't have been offensive.
So I read her post in context and figured it out for her.
The word she had used was "s-n-i-g-g-e-r-i-n-g", and the software had decided that the middle section was offensive.
On the Great Outdoors Challenge message board (for lunatics like myself, who like to spend their holidays walking across Scotland) it is routine for those who are speaking of Donside to refer to a particularly well-frequented spot as "male hen bridge"!
of course, when referring to place names such as the Hertfordshire village of Shingay-cvm-Wendy it is advisable to use the Latin usage of a "v" in place of a "u" ... the word is, of course, a Latin word ("cvm" meaning "with") ... but I wonder if it is advisable to adopt this usage more generally? When referring, for instance, to the Scottish new town where they filmed "Gregory's Girl", should we routinely write "Cvmbernauld"? And come to that, should we speak of the English county of Cvmbria (or, if in pre-1972 mode) Cvmberland?
It's a minefield, isn't it??
Many years ago I played badminton and we used to hit a shuttle large chicken over the net :D
In fairness to Tank though it does appear as shuttlecock :thumbsup:
(No large chickens were harmed while we played by the way)
Does the football result Arsenal 3 - Scunthorpe 1 come out OK?
[yes ... it seems to ... ]
:laughabovepost:
You have a PM :thumbsup:
But isn't it madness when you can't type the well known name of a P2 steam loco i.e.
C o c k O' The North?
Quote from: Tank on March 29, 2021, 09:25:43 AM
Those that add symbols or leave gaps in words just to show the word aren't very bright. ::) They may get around the filter, but when the moderators or myself read it, it's a ban. :scowl:
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 29, 2021, 02:35:45 PM
But isn't it madness when you can't type the well known name of a P2 steam loco i.e.
C o c k O' The North?
Miss, miss, he put spaces in to get round the filter. I'm going to tell a mod ..... oops ... ah ... er ... um :smiley-laughing:
Quote from: Trainfish on March 29, 2021, 02:08:02 PM
:laughabovepost:
You have a PM :thumbsup:
Thank you, TrainFish.
They are, of course, two of the three English professional football clubs with rude words in their names.
If you cannot figure out the third, you'll have to PM me for enlightenment ...
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2021, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: honestjudge on March 27, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Do we need an angry thread? I may be wrong but this seems to me where all the ranting comes from.
But, Shirley, the two go hand in hand?
We are an angry race. Currently the Angry thread is far more popular than the Happy thread.....
Happy thread 342 pages
Angry thread 478 pages
I wonder though if the extra pages in the angry thread are generated by supportive messages and suggestions on fixing an issue. As previously stated that thread is not only somewhere to rant but also get support.
Quote from: Fardap on March 29, 2021, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2021, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: honestjudge on March 27, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Do we need an angry thread? I may be wrong but this seems to me where all the ranting comes from.
But, Shirley, the two go hand in hand?
We are an angry race. Currently the Angry thread is far more popular than the Happy thread.....
Happy thread 342 pages
Angry thread 478 pages
I wonder though if the extra pages in the angry thread are generated by supportive messages and suggestions on fixing an issue. As previously stated that thread is not only somewhere to rant but also get support.
I agree completely. Heaps more follow on posts than in the Happy Thread.
I'm reminded of a former colleague in Paris who tried to describe an incompetent designer as someone who couldn't tell his âne from his coude. Not surprisingly, our french co-workers just looked puzzled.
Jon
Personally I love swearing, but just out-loud, so I don't on the forum and find it just lovely that the written word can be so much more civilized thank spoken. So I'm super happy to have no swearing on here at all, besides this is about trains, something we all LOVE (one would presume) so I think we can find better words to talk about our shared passion.
G.
Quote from: PGN on March 29, 2021, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 29, 2021, 02:08:02 PM
:laughabovepost:
You have a PM :thumbsup:
Thank you, TrainFish.
They are, of course, two of the three English professional football clubs with rude words in their names.
If you cannot figure out the third, you'll have to PM me for enlightenment ...
Uddersfeeled Town?
Quote from: Jon898 on March 29, 2021, 05:22:32 PM
I'm reminded of a former colleague in Paris who tried to describe an incompetent designer as someone who couldn't tell his âne from his coude. Not surprisingly, our french co-workers just looked puzzled.
Jon
I love things like that, where an English saying which means absolutely nothing to a foreigner is literally translated. Another one is "Je suis toutes oreilles" :D
And maybe the team who play at the Mazuma stadium?
Quote from: GrahamB on March 27, 2021, 08:12:37 AM
I typed "work" once. But I think I got away with it.
Filthy swine, go was your computer keyboard out with carbolic and water.
Meanwhile what about typing real names, like 'male chicken' (changed by forum) O' the North?
Quote from: GAD on January 31, 2022, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: GrahamB on March 27, 2021, 08:12:37 AM
I typed "work" once. But I think I got away with it.
Filthy swine, go was your computer keyboard out with carbolic and water.
Meanwhile what about typing real names, like 'male chicken' (changed by forum) O' the North?
So I typed the correct name and got the above, I'm not impressed.
Quote from: Only Me on January 31, 2022, 11:04:08 AM
Quote from: GAD on January 31, 2022, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: GAD on January 31, 2022, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: GrahamB on March 27, 2021, 08:12:37 AM
I typed "work" once. But I think I got away with it.
Filthy swine, go was your computer keyboard out with carbolic and water.
Meanwhile what about typing real names, like 'male chicken' (changed by forum) O' the North?
So I typed the correct name and got the above, I'm not impressed.
Your point being?
On a free forum? ......
Sounds like you are being a bit of a 'male chicken' yourself 🤷🏼
Thanks for that. I bow to your self knowledge!
I've always been told I'm the C-o-c-k o' the North :-[
I'm still trying to decide whether to report that last post for manipulation of the rules >:D
shouldn't you be drawing pints in the B-i-t-c-h Barn :D
That's a bit difficult as I'm in here
(https://rubbytownfarm.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Wetherspoons-Queens-Head-Tavistock.jpg)
Aha, so that is how you get inside the Queen's head.
Let's see how this forum deals with: "the railway line runs across the top of a dike, or dyke" (both legitimate spellings of the landscape structure).
"Forum automation detected stupidity..."
"Forum algorithms determined text is good"
(Edit: OK, it works; another model railway forum silently removed both spellings, which is IMHO asinine).
The ... pen is ... mightier than the sword
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on February 01, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
The ... pen is ... mightier than the sword
Isn't a Pen a female swan? Presumably to go with the "large male chicken" ;)
Quote from: PLD on February 01, 2022, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on February 01, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
The ... pen is ... mightier than the sword
Isn't a Pen a female swan? Presumably to go with the "large male chicken" ;)
Yes a pen is
Cockington Hall is another name we could get into trouble with.
Quote from: PLD on February 01, 2022, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on February 01, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
The ... pen is ... mightier than the sword
Isn't a Pen a female swan? Presumably to go with the "large male chicken" ;)
Pen is also an old name for a hill.
The famous Torpenhow hill, Means Hill, hill, hill, Hill.
Quote from: The Q on February 02, 2022, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: PLD on February 01, 2022, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on February 01, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
The ... pen is ... mightier than the sword
Isn't a Pen a female swan? Presumably to go with the "large male chicken" ;)
Pen is also an old name for a hill.
The famous Torpenhow hill, Means Hill, hill, hill, Hill.
True...
But the link (however tenuous) to "male children" or any other banned word is?? ??? :hmmm:
Quote from: Only Me on February 02, 2022, 07:24:12 PM
I really do wish I had as much time on my hands as you chaps do!! 😩
From your stats, you would appear to have more than some of the posters on this thread, even the originator falls short of your posting rate :D