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Author Topic: The angry thread  (Read 281144 times)

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Offline Mito

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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4950 on: January 09, 2017, 08:56:29 pm »
I too am a pensioner. I shall make do with what I have and enjoy them. Those that have disposable income for this hobby, fine but I really do think that the manufactures are doing themselves no favours with their pricing. Perhaps it's time to think about a change in my hobby?
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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4951 on: January 09, 2017, 09:20:25 pm »
@austinbob
Having read your wonderful (and oh so understandable) post how on earth could you not have shoehorned in 'running it up the flagpole' somehow ;)


I saw on an email this morning one of the most ridiculous examples of 'modern' speech. One of the lads who works with me received the email from a lady in the main offices, regarding some new starters and she was on about signing them into the system and concluded with "and I will touch base with you later".   ???
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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4952 on: January 09, 2017, 09:28:08 pm »
@austinbob
Having read your wonderful (and oh so understandable) post how on earth could you not have shoehorned in 'running it up the flagpole' somehow ;)


I saw on an email this morning one of the most ridiculous examples of 'modern' speech. One of the lads who works with me received the email from a lady in the main offices, regarding some new starters and she was on about signing them into the system and concluded with "and I will touch base with you later".   ???


Are you sure she was referring to the starters? ;) :o :goggleeyes:
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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4953 on: January 09, 2017, 09:29:52 pm »
Would it really improve the quality and reduce prices if things were made in the UK , now that the Chinese are asking for more money.

Don't know regarding model trains Bob, but the company I work for has just finished shifting all its production in-house and told the Chinese manufacturing company to get lost. May not be cheaper just yet, but apparently the increase in quality and the better control over it is worth the minimal extra it's costing :thumbsup:


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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4954 on: January 09, 2017, 09:50:35 pm »
Would it really improve the quality and reduce prices if things were made in the UK , now that the Chineese are asking for more money.
Trouble is, Bob, Bachmann is a Chinese company, so for them it'd be outsourcing.

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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4955 on: January 10, 2017, 06:53:44 am »
@austinbob
Brilliant, just brilliant. :thumbsup: Made me laugh out loud, which as my wife will testify, is a rare thing.


Now, if only the light at the end of the tunnel would come back on...... ;)


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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4956 on: January 10, 2017, 07:54:03 am »
Re 2017 prices; all I would say is thank goodness I have more than enough rolling stock to run on my current and even an expanded layout.

Starting from scratch right now will be a particularly expensive time but I remember a Minitrix Britannia was an arm and a leg 35/40 years ago when I had my first layout.

Do hope that the current round of price increases doesn't put off too many folk from joining us in a great hobby.

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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4957 on: January 10, 2017, 09:24:05 am »
To be honest the detail of N Gauge stock has improved dramatically since I bought my first brand new  loco a Farish pannier tank it cost 3-7s-6d at full RRP. But the durability has gone down .will the modern stock still be running in twenty or thirty years time I doubt it ,I have had quite a few modern stock fail after only a short period of running,the worst offender was a Q1 which managed one and a half laps running in on low speed before giving up, several diesels with lights failing the worst was a Chiltern class 67 which was replaced three times and then even the forth one ended up with lights at one end only.So I think some of us have a right to be angry after paying out a lot of hard earned cash.
But good luck to those who DONT HAVE PROBLEMS I wish I was one of them.
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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4958 on: January 10, 2017, 10:39:45 am »
I have no real experience on models failing, but i do agree the price of the models are really expensive and far out of reach of most of us,but i people carry on paying the prices that they are asking the companies will still charge to much for them. Our hobby needs both ( Customer and Maker ) to carry on with it and make it even better, but unless something is done to change it i.e. get back to making most if not all of it in the UK will we ever see them cheaper.    :thumbsup:
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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4959 on: January 12, 2017, 08:59:24 am »
I'm absolutely fed up with the music that is played over what seems to be nearly all the dialoge in TV programs,especially when one note only is repeatedly played on a clonky piano.
I don't mind the music so much,it's the way it's played over the dialogue and not in the background.

Even the news headlines have to have music played over the newsreader.

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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4960 on: January 12, 2017, 09:12:07 am »
I totally agree with you Allan. :thumbsup:  so called 'mood music' certainly does its job, as it makes me VERY moody! :veryangry:

I feel program makers and broadcasters do a particular great disservice to those with hearing difficulties, as well as to those with good hearing like me.

I turn off if it's too intrusive.
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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4961 on: January 12, 2017, 09:20:25 am »
I certainly agree with both the above about tv, another thing is, especially on documentaries, is that they will insist on repeating what we've already seen (re-cap) before the ad break then when it finally moves on with the subject it's almost time for more adverts!!  :veryangry:
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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4962 on: January 12, 2017, 09:36:28 am »
I certainly agree with both the above about tv, another thing is, especially on documentaries, is that they will insist on repeating what we've already seen (re-cap) before the ad break then when it finally moves on with the subject it's almost time for more adverts!!  :veryangry:

The "Music" has forced Mrs "H" to view every programme with sub-titles :veryangry:

Don't ever go down the "Kodi" road. It is a brilliant for us Ex pats deprived of UK TV as you can watch almost any programme, HOWEVER if you pause ,for phone calls get a drink or wood for the fire a really "helpful" programme description is displayed outlining the plot including twists etc that you may not have seen yet!!!  Luckily Mrs "H" has difficulty reading small text.
Rant over...

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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4963 on: January 12, 2017, 10:47:04 am »
Oh dear. You've got me started too.
Does anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more? Back in the days of British Transport Films pride was taken in cinematography and sound, but now I find myself constantly adjusting sound levels. I've known for years American films need a higher volume but I find I have to turn down music, turn up speech and generally adjust the TV volume every time I change channel. I firmly believe there are no sound engineers any more, especially as many programmes are not actually made by the TV companies but bought in at exorbitant cost.
As far as most comedy shows go, if someone held up a board saying "Cheer" I'd hold one up saying "Why?". I'm sure they're not watching the same show I am :no:
Commercial programmes are now an hour of adverts interrupted by bits of e.g. Midsomer Murders.
'Nuff said :veryangry:

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Re: The angry thread
« Reply #4964 on: January 12, 2017, 10:51:55 am »
Oh dear. You've got me started too.
Does anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more? Back in the days of British Transport Films pride was taken in cinematography and sound, but now I find myself constantly adjusting sound levels. I've known for years American films need a higher volume but I find I have to turn down music, turn up speech and generally adjust the TV volume every time I change channel. I firmly believe there are no sound engineers any more, especially as many programmes are not actually made by the TV companies but bought in at exorbitant cost.
As far as most comedy shows go, if someone held up a board saying "Cheer" I'd hold one up saying "Why?". I'm sure they're not watching the same show I am :no:
Commercial programmes are now an hour of adverts interrupted by bits of e.g. Midsomer Murders.
'Nuff said :veryangry:

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