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Offline SNCFStephen

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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2013, 07:36:17 pm »
Welcome to the board. It is nice that someone shares the same passion as me for the French railcars. I have about 14 at the moment. I might even try and do another run of 3D printed Draisines next month (see the pictures in my layout thread).

Scratchbuilding and kitbuilding is the norm for rolling stock. AIM Trains N Co do a wide range of stock in brass/resin kits.

Are you thinking of modelling mainline or branch lines in France?

Good luck with the project and I look forward to hearing about it.

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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2013, 07:50:30 pm »
Sadly I only have one railcar so far, a Mabar Renault ABJ3.  More will be on their way soon though.  We are off to the Pyrenees for eight weeks at the end of the month in our motorhome and the route is bound to contain a model shop or two! 

Your draisine looks very nice in the photograph, do let me know if you are producing any for sale. 

There is a lot to consider as to a location and type of prototype for a layout.  I suspect that it will involve a middling town (population c. 30,000), perhaps with a branch line as well.  The mainline in these circumstances would probably be double track, but could be single track.  Electrification is the key decision, you miss so much from the French prototype if you don't, but it's definitely fiddly.  There is still much to ponder.

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Re: Any SNCF bargains??
« Reply #77 on: April 28, 2013, 04:32:59 pm »
http://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Trix-T12470.html

Prototype: French State Railways (SNCF) class BB 7200 fast general-purpose locomotive.
Model:
The locomotive has an NEM digital connector. It also has a 5-pole motor
with 2 flywheels. Both trucks are powered. The locomotive has a close
coupler mechanism.
Length over the buffers 109 mm

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Re: Any SNCF bargains??
« Reply #78 on: April 28, 2013, 09:18:07 pm »
http://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Trix-T12470.html

Prototype: French State Railways (SNCF) class BB 7200 fast general-purpose locomotive.
Model:
The locomotive has an NEM digital connector. It also has a 5-pole motor
with 2 flywheels. Both trucks are powered. The locomotive has a close
coupler mechanism.
Length over the buffers 109 mm

€59.99( DC)


DM Toys do some great bargains even with shipping. I've bought from them before so they send me a 'bargain' and 'new stuff' e mail every so often but if you haven't, worth checking their site every month or so.

Want to buy that one but skint as usual  :(

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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #79 on: April 28, 2013, 11:27:20 pm »
As I have stated before on this forum, the notion that there is ‘not very much’ available for French railways in N gauge is out of date and inaccurate. There have been three booms inn French N gauge, the early 1980s, the mid 1990s and about 2000 – present (The recent boom has been mainly thanks to Piko (BB26000 ‘Sybic’, BB25500 both cab types, BB66000), Minitrix (BB67300)  and Spanish outfits Mabar (A1A A1A 68000) and Startrain (CC7100). At one time a diesel only layout was questionable (with just 63000 and 72000 locos available) but since the arrival in recent years of the 66000, 67300 and 68000 diesels all the main classes of SNCF diesel are now  available.

If you search for my posts and messages you will get some help on how to set about French N gauge.

With reference to specific layout plans, there are examples of single track ‘main’ lines in France, both electrified and non electrified. I chose the Aix les Bains – Annemasse route for my latest layout as a busy single track route.
http://gwizz.zenfolio.com/p877799844

http://gwizz.piwigo.com/index?/category/49-model_railways

There is a lot more SNCF outline stuff now available than there is for many other national railway operators.

Trains 160 is a good friend of mine and is the de facto listing of everything currently available off the shelf
http://www.trains160.com/en/

The best reference to all things ever produced for French N is another friend of mine Christophe, who has logged all French N gauge items ever produced:

http://www.referencement-n.com/

Without even trying I have found plenty of SNCF N stock at English retailers at various shows over the past year, so there is plenty out there, for example Plus Daughters currently has few French N locos, Contikits usually had French N secondhand (they had a Minitrix CC6500 last time out)



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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #80 on: April 29, 2013, 05:21:53 pm »
I've just picked up on this thread and noticed that the interest that some of you have in the Z6400 EMU. I travel on these every day when I commute into Paris and I'd be happy to take some close up photos of specific parts of these sets if details are needed for scratchbuilding or developing a design for 3D printing.
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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #81 on: April 29, 2013, 05:57:15 pm »
Would be interested yes. Especially in shots of the ends between the vehicles
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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #82 on: April 29, 2013, 06:51:25 pm »
Following Etched Pixels initiative with Sketchup, I have started the cab section of the first type of Corail driving trailer which appears on 3 different bodystyles - the original version with roller shutter door to the baggage area (last 3 of these in service with TER Franche-Comté), the 16 TER Rhône-Alpes ones with a small window replacing the shutter, and the most recent ones in use between Paris St. Lazare and Rouen/Le Havre with a larger window replacing the shutter.



http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=item;in=4911

If I can finish this and produce a suitable 3D print  it will hopefully end up as part of a resin body to take etched sides. I have already produced some of the etched sides. The chassis would be the old Lima/Arnold VTU Corail type which has the right bogie and almost exactly the right bogie centres, give or take 0.6mm!

For anyone not familiar with these, the image below is one of the Rouen ones.



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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #83 on: April 29, 2013, 06:55:28 pm »
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or anyone not familiar with these, the image below is one of the Rouen ones.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=item;in=4912


Thanks for the photo!  I was *hoping* this was the driving cab you were referring to!  I think these would make a nice project! 

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With reference to specific layout plans, there are examples of single track ‘main’ lines in France, both electrified and non electrified. I chose the Aix les Bains – Annemasse route for my latest layout as a busy single track route.


Gordon - not sure why, but I don't think I've ever seen your layout or collection until now! Thanks for sharing! I'm jealous of a lot of what you have!  ;D

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« Reply #84 on: April 29, 2013, 09:29:34 pm »
Dunno how the pricing works out for that but for I've been finding polished WSF material (so 1mm wall thickness and smooth but detail gets rounded off a fair bit) actually seems to be cheaper to print that get resin cast these days (at least for commercial services), especially as to carry etched sides you don't need that much supporting material around the sides and you will reproduce the lines along the roof ok with care.

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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #85 on: April 29, 2013, 10:25:51 pm »
Thanks for that Alan. I am sort of relying on the  polishing to round off some of the panel joins which are dressed welds on the prototype. More work on it tomorrow.

Mike
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« Reply #86 on: April 30, 2013, 11:02:55 am »
Rhone Alpes example I photted: Dijon June 2012


I assume this is the version NOT being produced

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« Reply #87 on: April 30, 2013, 12:22:50 pm »


I assume this is the version NOT being produced

Gevrey-Chambertin June 2012. Photo Gordon Wiseman



Handsome as it is this is well beyond my skill level in 3D. I will be doing one for myself by modifying a Farish Voyager. There is a guy in France scratchbuilding this B5uxh style in H0, and didn't Piko say they were planning this one too in H0?

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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #88 on: May 01, 2013, 10:02:32 am »
Did a bit more work on the B6Dux cab last night. So here is the progress so far.



And just for fun I did 2 minutes literally on the more modern B5uxh just to explore the shape. I was pleased with what a dozen clicks could produce without reference to dimensions or the drawing.

 
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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #89 on: May 01, 2013, 10:05:29 am »
It looks to be coming on very well Mike.  Well done! :thumbsup:

 

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