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N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« on: October 02, 2018, 11:23:32 am »
Hi all,

I'd like to have immatation catenary on my 1:160 German layout. I could scratch build it or purchase kits if available. Any recommendations?

Cheers
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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2018, 12:04:02 pm »
I know half of nothing about continental stuff but have frequently seen Sommerfeldt catenary advertised. This site purely for pics..................

http://www.blackwells-miniatures.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=34_167

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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2018, 12:12:56 pm »
I used the old Vollmer and Minitrix catenary on my layout, that was over 20 years ago.  It's not made any more and is getting harder to find on ebay etc.





Viessmann seems to be the brand to use nowadays, my german friends in N-Club International use it.  If/when I start a new project from scratch and I have no more Vollmer in stock, I will use Viessmann.   It looks a little finer than Vollmer.



Sommerfeldt is still around but the wires need to be soldered up.


« Last Edit: October 02, 2018, 01:19:07 pm by ntpntpntp »
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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2018, 02:51:21 pm »
Dapol do a nice single catenary mast (packs of 10)
https://www.dapol.co.uk/ncat1-n-gauge-mk-3-catenary-masts-pack-of-10-103

Given the high price of the Veissmann items I am considering these Dapol ones and maybe modifying them with old plastic kit sprues or some such. A full, even small, layout can mean a not inconsiderable cost in masts and etc.

Has anybody had any luck with the d.i.y. approach? :hmmm:
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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2018, 03:09:32 pm »
Dapol do a nice single catenary mast (packs of 10)
https://www.dapol.co.uk/ncat1-n-gauge-mk-3-catenary-masts-pack-of-10-103

Given the high price of the Veissmann items I am considering these Dapol ones and maybe modifying them with old plastic kit sprues or some such. A full, even small, layout can mean a not inconsiderable cost in masts and etc.

Has anybody had any luck with the d.i.y. approach? :hmmm:

Nice - any idea if these are 1:160? I guess being British outline they are probably not (may not matter though -they're certianly a cheaper way to do it!). Yes I'm keen to see if anyone has tried a DIY approach too.

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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2018, 04:03:35 pm »
I did a DIY job on Deansmoor although of course UK outline, as i did it before Dapol’s masts came out.

It was easy enough to solder them up once I had made a simple jig from Tufnol with pins to bend the wires.  You can judge for yourself how realistic they are, but remember they carry a tensioned wire for sprung pans to run on, so maybe are a touch too robust.

Incidentally I would use commercial brass etchings for the gantries if I were doing it again.  Mine are somewhat chunky.

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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2018, 04:25:15 pm »
Another brand that might be worth checking out is HObbex. From what I can remember they're quite a bit cheaper than Viessman.

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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2018, 04:41:49 pm »

It was easy enough to solder them up once I had made a simple jig from Tufnol

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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2018, 04:44:04 pm »
Another brand that might be worth checking out is HObbex. From what I can remember they're quite a bit cheaper than Viessman.


Thanks. Took me a while to find the right company - drones and skateboards are not my thing  :no:- so here’s the webpage I eventually found with their N Gauge items listed:

http://www.hobbex.de/n.htm
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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2018, 05:48:12 pm »
Can't say I've come across the HObbex catenary before.     Not sure if I like the look of it - the cross-span sets look even more chunky than my old Vollmer stuff, going by this ebay listing:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/HOBBEX-N-Oberleitung-Quertragwerk-2-gleisig-ON122-/361441608509
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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2018, 07:38:02 pm »
Can't say I've come across the HObbex catenary before.     Not sure if I like the look of it - the cross-span sets look even more chunky than my old Vollmer stuff, going by this ebay listing:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/HOBBEX-N-Oberleitung-Quertragwerk-2-gleisig-ON122-/361441608509

That would look good together with a LEGO train !   :smiley-laughing:

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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2018, 08:43:49 pm »
Think that must be very old, I’m sure I’ve seen Hobbex stuff not looking like it’s made from Meccano!

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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2018, 09:35:53 pm »
Looking at Google images of the HObbex N Gauge items there does seem to be some variation in the realism/size of masts, probably as njee says, some of them older models.
However, even taking the better looking masts they do seem to be a fair bit chunkier than the Veissmann versions, especially where the linking wires are concerned. But without a side by side comparison of the latest offerings from the two makes, I find it hard to reach a firm conclusion.

Anybody have better info on them?
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Re: N gauge 1:160 mock German catenary
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2018, 12:23:25 am »
The Dapol masts are not very Germanic.

Here's a list of N gauge catenary suppliers as per 1zu160:
https://www.1zu160.net/hersteller/oberleitung.php
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