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Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« on: June 23, 2018, 11:12:02 pm »
I tried a search to see if anything came up, but I pulled a blank, so I ask the members here if they have had any experience with the shapeways Mk3 SLEP that is supposed to be a replacement shell for Dapol coaches.

Are they accurate (or close enough to be passable), is it a solid shell (ie not flimsy or easily breakable), how are they to paint and decal, what extra detail parts would be needed?

Thanks for any info and help, Iím trying to create a sleeper rake and as the main manufacturers seem to be passing over them this looks to be the only option.
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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2018, 11:38:59 pm »
If its up to CMAC Models usual standard it will be very good.  I built his Adelante last year and it was excellent.

My advice is go for the smoothest fine detail plastic.

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2018, 11:40:55 pm »
Paint with acrylics, 3d material doesnt work well with enamels... as with anything if you are clumsy you will break it..



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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2018, 11:46:04 pm »
Paint with acrylics, 3d material doesnt work well with enamels... as with anything if you are clumsy you will break it..

I agree, also don't file with a coarse file as it frays the surface, a good Swiss fine file is OK, even better use a fiberglass pen to burnish the surface to remove printing aberrations.

Once you have given it a good spray acrylic undercoat any paint type will work.

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2018, 03:22:35 am »
That looks an interesting build, Iíll be looking forward to seeing your results.

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2018, 09:35:36 am »
Now this is a very interesting find indeed.

I shall look into this, as I have been wanting a few decent Mk3 sleepers for a while, especially a rake in IC Swallow livery. More than happy to spray them up. Both Farish and Dapol have missed a trick once again with these. Now just to get a few GUV's in swallow livery...

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2018, 09:39:59 am »
@Only Me Sprayed one of your 128 Parcel cars up with enamel, no issues what so ever mate. Careful preparation is the key, same with a few other 3D prints.




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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2018, 09:44:36 am »
Very nice.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2018, 09:46:20 am »
Nice! Here's the link... https://www.shapeways.com/product/GKUT3SA6H/mk3-sleeper-slep-n-gauge?optionId=65375695&li=marketplace

They also produce a 3D printed class 90 body shell. Some money going to spent here me thinks!

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2018, 09:58:28 am »
@Only Me Sprayed one of your 128 Parcel cars up with enamel, no issues what so ever mate. Careful preparation is the key, same with a few other 3D prints.




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Yes Anthony it will work but as you say you need to 100% cover the material first in plastic primer... so acrylics ar easier imo



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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2018, 10:12:57 am »
Re enamel versus acrylic I've painted stacks of 3d printed stuff (FUD) and it really is hit and miss. I have had some success with enamel but that is the exception rather than the rule with some that just will not dry. I had 3 wagons all cleaned and prepared the same way and sprayed with enamel, one was fine the others a failure. As most colours are available in acrylic I don't feel it is worth the risk or time wasted if it goes wrong using enamel.

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2018, 10:45:22 am »
From the videos I been digging up it at first didnít look like there was any pattern as to whether the coaches were SLE or SLEP coaches, then after watching for several hours (I get carried away with old video clips) it seemed every two coaches would generally be one of each.

I remembered riding the lowland sleeper on a regular basis and the attendants would be allocated two sleepers (this would make sense to have a SLEP every two coaches).

Externally the only difference appeared to be the running number, and one window in the non corridor side at the end being frosted on the SLE (left 13 Unfrosted berth windows) and 2 frosted one each end on the SLEP (12 unfrosted berth windows), first class was decided on placement of the coach as the berths are interchangeable between stand and first.
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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2018, 01:06:07 pm »
Interesting, hadn't seen those. The problem is that without a decent mk2e they would stand out though, if you use Electra vinyls on Farish shells you at least get some consistency in the rake.

The 90 is very interesting indeed, for $25 I'll have a punt on one of those!

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2018, 01:13:42 pm »
Externally the only difference appeared to be the running number, and one window in the non corridor side at the end being frosted on the SLE (left 13 Unfrosted berth windows) and 2 frosted one each end on the SLEP (12 unfrosted berth windows)
When you view a SLE and SLEP on the compartment side, and you cannot see the numbers identification can be difficult
However, with the SLEP, viewed from the berth side, the attendant compartment is at the opposite end from the toilets with a vent to the top right of the window
It is a converted compartment and has a larger water tank and the additional gauge can also be seen in the underframe

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Re: Shapeways mk3 SLEP
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2018, 05:36:46 pm »
I ordered the model (only got the smooth fine detail as it was to see the quality first), it arrived today, initial opinion is that it should make for a convincing model, I havenít yet tried fitting it to a Dapol chassis, it is supposed to be a straight swap, the central door lock lights are modeled, once painted they should ďpopĒ more, the shell as is they seem to blend in and are difficult to actually see, the doors probably need a little work but Iím not sure exactly how to, the handle and grab irons will need fine detail extra parts.

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Now I just need to figure out how to prep it and paint it, as per recommendation from you guys I ordered and received the fiberglass pen.
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