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Airbrush for beginner?
« on: June 14, 2018, 08:19:27 pm »
Time has come to add an airbrush to the armoury, any ideas to something half decent that wont break the bank? Cheers

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2018, 08:57:56 pm »
Iwata neo.
https://elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/AA/airbrushes/neo-for-iwata-cn-gravity-feed-airbrush?d=22&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7aaz1PfT2wIV1IXVCh3OKQh3EAQYASABEgI1F_D_BwE

I wouldn’t go cheaper especially in N gauge as the results will be disappointing all of course IMHO.

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2018, 09:45:23 pm »
I too am interested in which one, I have read through many threads and end up more confused than anything, these Iwata brushes seem to get good reviews, however I see the paint cup can be in various places depending on the model, which is preferable for our applications? Ease of use and placement of cup obstructing the object being sprayed?
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2018, 10:27:11 pm »
I was in Aldi, (in Ireland), today and saw that they had one for something like €69, (about £60). I quite like the tools made for Aldi and was tempted. However, it was syphon fed, (if I read it right - the paint bottle was under the airbrush), and from having read reviews on the forum and elsewhere, a gravity fed airbrush seems to be the way to go - I am right thinking that?

Addit: Should have said the set up was complete in that it also had the compressor.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2018, 10:32:07 pm by dannyboy, Reason: added a bit! »
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2018, 11:31:04 pm »
@dannyboy If that price includes the compressor, its a cheap airbrush. I have four or five airbrushes and I favour side or bottom fed airbrushes. The reason being that the cup can get in your line of sight if you are doing close-up work. Obviously for longer strokes it wont matter as the object will be further away. Incidently the airbrush I recommended does have a top feed cup. In my opinion that is the neo's one disadvantage. However, a bottom or side feed probably costs twice as much.
I think for people wanting to learn airbrushing you have a couple of options; get someone to teach you, or do as I have done and watch endless videos on youtube and have a go, buy several airbrushes and make your own decision. Actually having more than one one airbrush can be a benefit if you need a couple of colours at the same time.
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2018, 08:26:19 am »
I used https://www.everythingairbrush.com/ and they were very helpful in answering questions, I was actually buying one to use on my Graphic Design degree, (was a Badger 155 Anthem and mini compressor kit) once I get moved and have a railway room... I will be revisiting this on the basis of a upgrading to a good modelling airbrush along with the badger which is great for what I needed it for.

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2018, 08:48:46 am »
I think for people wanting to learn airbrushing you have a couple of options; get someone to teach you, or do as I have done and watch endless videos on youtube and have a go, buy several airbrushes and make your own decision. Actually having more than one one airbrush can be a benefit if you need a couple of colours at the same time.

This is good advice.

I know it's an unpopular opinion here, but a cheap -- if decent -- airbrush is better than no airbrush. I was on a budget, bought an all-in-one kit from Amazon with a generic airbrush and compressor for around £60. Gravity fed paint holder, double action design. The standard Chinese knock-off one. Honestly, it's fine for basic work. Resprays are easily doable with some practise, and weathering is a doddle.

I'm sure the better brushes are smoother and offer more features. But a generic Chinese airbrush does a lot more than paint brushes, so worth the modest investment.

It's the practise and acquisition of skills that makes the biggest different, IMHO.

Cheers, NeMo

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2018, 09:48:10 am »
I was in the same position a couple of years ago, and bought a cheap compressor off eBay that came with 2 even cheaper airbrushes - got the lot for about £65, though I've just had a look now and the prices seem to have jumped up, and similar now is around £100 (though the compressor on it's own is around £80).

The compressor is absolutely fantastic - it's got the 3 litre tank so you don't have it chugging away constantly (though it is surprisingly very quiet) and you don't get any pulsing, either. I'd say it was well worth the cost all on it's own, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.

Neither of the airbrushes that came with it I've ever used more than once (one bottom feed, one side feed). I bought 2 more - a top feed one from China for about £20, and a slightly better quality 'Spraycraft' SP50K which is bottom feed.

I've used both of those quite a bit, but personally I much prefer the top-feed arrangement. I've been using it a lot more recently, and it's shortcomings are just begining to show. I'm now thinking of replacing it with an Iwata Neo.

My advice to the OP would be 3-fold:

1. Buy a cheap compressor, with a tank, off eBay/Amazon. They are well worth the money.

2. Buy a cheap dual-action airbrush from same. Maybe even 2 different style ones. Pay about £20 for it; use it, learn how it works, learn how to strip it down, clean it, and put it back together. And I mean learn how to clean it PROPERLY - it's amazing how much crap there can still be inside an airbrush that looks spotless, and it DOES affect your finish. Try different techniques, there are loads of videos on YouTube (I've recently been watching lots of tutorials about spraying 1/35th scale WWII tanks; not directly relevant to 1/148th scale UK railways, but some of the tricks & techniques are very useful!).

3. Once you've really learnt all the above, and you start to become limited by the airbrush itself rather than your lack of skill with it, THEN spend the money on a better quality one.


Don't be tempted to buy an expensive airbrush straight away; make your mistakes on a cheap on first!


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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2018, 09:58:49 am »
Totally echo Nemo's post, I also bought an all in one kit with two Chinese airbrushes and a compressor. It's been very useful to get some practice. I keep thinking I should get a better one, but it does what I want.

IMO the biggest factor in a good paintjob is the preparation - particularly masking. The best airbrush in the world won't help if your paint's bled between colours. An airbrush will certainly make for far more professional looking finishes though.

 

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