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Offline bbdave

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New model room
« on: April 30, 2018, 09:44:24 pm »
Fingers crossed next month we'll be moving into our own place and I'll be the owner of a single garage to convert to my model room it is single skin brick I am thinking of insulation all round and a skin of ply or plaster board but I just wandered if anyone had any other suggestions or ideas on what to do to prepare it.

Dave

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Re: New model room
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2018, 10:18:08 pm »
I used insulation backed plasterboard in mine, bonded straight to the wall plasterboard ceiling with reasonable loft insulation.

Itís good, never gets below freezing or very hot and I didnít lose as much depth as if you build a stud wall for the insulation, although I suspect that would be cheaper, and you could compensate for uneven walls and floors more easily!

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Re: New model room
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2018, 06:59:15 am »
I used insulation backed plasterboard in mine, bonded straight to the wall plasterboard ceiling with reasonable loft insulation.

Itís good, never gets below freezing or very hot and I didnít lose as much depth as if you build a stud wall for the insulation, although I suspect that would be cheaper, and you could compensate for uneven walls and floors more easily!

Did you do anything on the floor? I was thinking of insulation tiles with ply over the top.

Dave

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Re: New model room
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2018, 09:06:35 am »
I sealed the floor and put down some reclaimed carpet tiles. Didn't want to do anything too hard to reverse for when we sell the house. I'm sure a studwork floor with some polystyrene would be softer, but I actually find it fine.

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Re: New model room
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2018, 09:15:07 am »
My garage has recently been converted. Our house was previously the show house for the development, and originally the garage was the sales office, so already had insulated and lined walls ("Glass" wool insulation and plasterboard), the same for the ceiling/loft,  and radiator from the gas fired central heating. It then reverted to a garage when the builders moved on, but the lining and insulation remained. I have now had the up-and-over door removed and a big window installed in its place. The floor was originally just the solid concrete floor so my builder put in 100ml joists to lift and level  it and filled the area with 100ml foam sheets (celotex type stuff).

Snug as a bug in a railway room sized rug!

Plasterboard will be quite a bit cheaper than ply, I would think.

You should find that the floor slopes towards the door (to prevent flooding, etc.) so you might want to level it. If it's concrete floor I'd suggest you do the same as the above.

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Re: New model room
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2018, 09:25:46 am »
Again, it depends if you ever want to be able to put it back to how it was. Also be wary of permitted development regulations if you're doing things like removing up and over doors and making it a 'proper' room. Best to check with your local building control planners.

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Re: New model room
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2018, 12:36:59 pm »
Again, it depends if you ever want to be able to put it back to how it was. Also be wary of permitted development regulations if you're doing things like removing up and over doors and making it a 'proper' room. Best to check with your local building control planners.

Converting garages are permitted development but as the door can remain it'll look no different.

Dave

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Re: New model room
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2018, 01:04:45 pm »
For the floor in my shed, I used polystyrene backed chipboard sheets (4' x 2') IIRC. They have tongue and groove edges to interlock them.

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Re: New model room
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2018, 01:11:53 pm »
Again, it depends if you ever want to be able to put it back to how it was. Also be wary of permitted development regulations if you're doing things like removing up and over doors and making it a 'proper' room. Best to check with your local building control planners.

Converting garages are permitted development but as the door can remain it'll look no different.

Dave

My comment was specifically in response to Carmont who said he's removed his up and over door, constituting a full conversion.

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Sometimes permitted development rights have been removed from some properties with regard to garage conversions and therefore you should contact your local planning authority before proceeding, particularly if you live on a new housing development or in a conservation area.

I'd ask the question first personally, it's unlikely to bite you, but a bit of a pain if you get caught out.

If you're leaving the door as is then I'd not bother. As I said.

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Re: New model room
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2018, 04:22:39 pm »
We'll be talking about migrating the PME earth next!!!  :censored:

Dave
« Last Edit: May 01, 2018, 09:08:26 pm by bbdave »

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Re: New model room
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2018, 08:34:16 pm »
Err. Ok. I have no idea what youíre talking about ???

One thing I would say is sockets. Lots of sockets. How many do you think you need? Double that.

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Re: New model room
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2018, 08:44:13 pm »

One thing I would say is sockets. Lots of sockets. How many do you think you need? Double that.

It's like the definition of infinity. Think of the biggest number you can come up with and then add one :D

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Re: New model room
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2018, 10:29:41 pm »

One thing I would say is sockets. Lots of sockets. How many do you think you need? Double that.

It's like the definition of infinity. Think of the biggest number you can come up with and then add one :D

Ah, but which infinity? https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/5378/types-of-infinity

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Re: New model room
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2018, 12:11:38 am »

One thing I would say is sockets. Lots of sockets. How many do you think you need? Double that.

It's like the definition of infinity. Think of the biggest number you can come up with and then add one :D

Ah, but which infinity? https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/5378/types-of-infinity

The first one you spot after your first pan galactic gargle-blaster.  :D

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Re: New model room
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2018, 12:50:31 am »
I had an insulated (42mm thick) sectional garage door installed, its draught proof with rubber seals all round. For the floor I laid Black plastic membrane overlaid with Celotex topped with chipboard flooring sheets. From the outside it looks like a normal garage and can be converted back when the time comes.

As ours is a new development, permitted development rights had been withdrawn and the local planning jobs worth put up so many objections it became uneconomic to do a full room conversion.

Martin

 

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