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Offline BoxTunnel

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I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« on: April 21, 2018, 09:07:46 am »
Hello all, I need a few tips on how modern signals work.

I am playing the PC game "Train Simulator 2018" and one of the so-called easy routes has all sorts of yellow signals, e.g. single, double, single flashing and double flashing and then suddenly I run into a red and game over. 

Having looked it up on Wikipedia I believe my actions should be as follows:

- Double yellow, ease off.
- Single yellow, slow down quickly and prepare to stop.
- Flashing yellow, I am going to hit a turnout which will put me onto a lower speed line so ease off.

All the time I am losing points for being late, but it's not my fault!  I have a new respect for the real Train Drivers out there and offer my heartfelt apologies to them for all my bad thoughts whilst standing on a freezing Swindon or Chippenham platform waiting for the flippin' train to turn up!

Graham, about to crash again.
"I don't think anybody is anybody else's moral compass. Maybe listening to my music is not the best idea if you live a very constricted life. Or maybe it is." - Lou Reed.

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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 09:28:13 am »
Do what I do. Stick to real life model railways and if it's running late, tie the poor little plastic stationmaster to the track.

 ;) ;D  :thumbsup:
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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 01:13:47 pm »
Real life model railways... is that any oxymoron?!

The simplified basics (as Iím sure you know) are:

- double yellow: next signal is yellow, train 3 blocks ahead
- yellow: next signal is red, train 2 blocks ahead
- red: train in next block

With Train Simulator (and in real life) the flashing aspects for a high speed junction will have a speed limit associated with it, youíll see thy in your HUD, so you can almost ignore the flashing aspects and just drive to the speed limit.

On normal routes, if youíre doing 125mph I ease off at double yellows, and brake for single yellows, how much depends on the gap to the next signal, and things like how many double yellows there've been first - if youíre slowly gaining on a train the odds of the next one being red are slim. If youíve gone straight from double yellow to yellow then itís more likely youíll come to a red.

You can also get away with some very firm braking without penalty, just donít use emergency.

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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 08:29:03 pm »
In real life...

Double yellow.. next signal is single yellow, apply step 1 brake to slow the train.
Single yellow.. next signal is red. Aim to pass a single yellow at about 40mph, and pass The AWS magnet for the red at 15mph. Stop 1 coach length before the red.

Double flashing yellow is your first warning that the junction ahead is set for the diverging route, and train speed needs to be controlled accordingly (ie to arrive at the Junction at the diverging speed limit.)
Single flashing yellow is your second warning of the above, expect the signal protecting the Junction to be single steady yellow, with a red at the next signal after the Junction.

On some routes flashing yellows are replaced by splitting distant signals, but thatís a whole different kettle of fish.

Cheers, Timmo




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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2018, 07:07:36 am »


On some routes flashing yellows are replaced by splitting distant signals, but thatís a whole different kettle of fish.

Cheers, Timmo


That will be the "blue spot" signal then. :-)
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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 08:23:11 am »
Now youíre just taking the pisces :D

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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2018, 09:27:07 am »
I've found in order to 'win' scenarios I needed to do some real life style route knowledge and make notes on braking distances for different speeds/gradients for different trains, especially for stopper services.

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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 09:45:07 pm »
Glad youíre getting to grips with it 👍

Cheers, Timmo

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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2018, 09:51:50 pm »
He may or may not be, the OP's not replied ;)

I agree though that a bit of knowledge is needed to do well in scenarios that are anything but 'drive train non stop from a to b', and even then I've found some where I lose time despite driving like a total lunatic in a way you'd never do in the real world. I still go screaming through reds occasionally too, usually when driving a freight when you've been on a sea of greens and I get cocky!

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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2018, 10:13:31 pm »
route knowledge!!!

learn the line speeds, junctions, speeds over diverging routes etc. etc.

keep practicing :)


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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2018, 10:15:05 pm »
To be fair thatís all on the HUD anyway, with plenty of warning (odd glitches aside). The specific circumstances of the scenario are a bigger influence IME.

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Re: I keep crashing my train - modern signalling!
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2018, 12:28:50 am »
Many thanks for all the replies, I'm slowly getting better and as some have pointed out, knowing the route definitely helps!

Graham, not quite so late.
"I don't think anybody is anybody else's moral compass. Maybe listening to my music is not the best idea if you live a very constricted life. Or maybe it is." - Lou Reed.

 

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