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Inspiration needed
« on: April 20, 2018, 08:14:17 am »
Starting a second layout and desparately trying to avoid the roundy roundy plan of my first. This is the area I have, no era or location in mind to model (rule 1 as always :D)

I've tried a few plans but nothing has grabbed me as yet, so was wondering if anyone has any ideas as to what I could build. Blank paper, open to all suggestions :)


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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2018, 08:23:07 am »
If you are trying to avoid a roundy roundy, why not cut a chunk out of the middle, and turn it into a U shape?
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2018, 09:25:10 am »
I know that you donít want roundy roundy but..
What about a main line going round the left and top edges (maybe a port in the small square bottom left?).
With a terminus station like Penzance in the bottom square?
Then a single line branchline going round the right and bottom edges with maybe a country station and goods yard that can link back to the mainline bottom left of the big square. Maybe utilising a triangle track layout.
Maybe some sort of industrial building (rail served) to utilise the middle of the big square (perhaps a brewery or creamery or similar).
Some nicely positioned scenery (including hills) will break it all up.
It's you railway so build it as you want and run whatever you like. The only rule is - ENJOY :
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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 09:34:04 am »
Can we have a list of your 'wants' please, such as:-

Stations? If so, how many?
Urban or rural setting?
Any type of industry?
Fiddle yard?
Single or double track main line?
Branch line?
Track system in mind?
With your rule 1 would you require loco servicing facilities, and for steam + diesel?
What size trains will you run?

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2018, 05:34:23 pm »
There are  track plan books available that you might get some ideas from and modify to suit.

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 11:02:11 am »
Can we have a list of your 'wants' please, such as:-

Stations? If so, how many? 1 pretty much settled on something based on Penzance terminus
Urban or rural setting? mainly urban
Any type of industry? yes but not sure yet
Fiddle yard? no
Single or double track main line? double
Branch line? yes
Track system in mind? Peco set track
With your rule 1 would you require loco servicing facilities, and for steam + diesel? yes
What size trains will you run? up to 6 carriages  :hmmm:

Sorry if it's all a little vague,

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2018, 11:08:27 am »
Sounds good to me.
I rather like something based on Penzance terminus. The branchline could, of course be St Erth to St Ives.
As for indistry, a creamery is the obvious answer. Also maybe a goods yard based on the old Marazion. Plenty of brocolli, new potatoes and daffs traffic back in the day.
The urban setting running out of Pz station would probably suit your urban requirements and, of course, you can invoke scenic license.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2018, 11:16:23 am by port perran »
It's you railway so build it as you want and run whatever you like. The only rule is - ENJOY :
My Layouts -
Port Perran:- Trepol Bay:-

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 01:56:16 pm »
Here's summat to have a think about which will fit your baseboard size. I've used set track throughout with 2nd/3rd radius curves on the main lines and 1st radius on the branch line. The track plan is not complicated by many points so should be fairly simple to wire up. basically, there are 2 lines out of the terminus which then rise on a gradient, pass over themselves and return to the terminus (no return loop to worry about). The branch line also leaves the terminus and tracks the mains until the LHS of the layout where it travels (hidden) past the rear of the terminus, onto the smaller board and into it's own branch line terminus with run round loop.
My only concern is the gradient coming down to the terminus on the 'back' lines so I reckon you'd have to lower the 'out' lines by an inch, raise the 'back' lines by an inch which will give you the clearance you require and also halve the gradient needed. Hope that makes sense.
The main drawback is moving stock off the 'back' lines in the terminus and placing it on the 'out' lines but without any storage yard that's a tough one........
Anyway, I've enjoyed faffing with it on a wet Sunday afternoon and it may give you some ideas.

Double track main line - check
Branch line - check
Industry (space for) - check
Loco facilities - check
Urban terminus - check
Set track - check
6 carriage trains.  :hmmm:
No fiddle yard - check




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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2018, 02:10:27 pm »
I think that's a stunning plan, NPN.  With a little bit of development it might be possible to have crossovers at the country ends of the platforms and the trains could run out and then back to different sides of the same terminus.  No moving of stock required - effectively the terminus becomes its own fiddle yard.  Brilliant!  Why have I never thought of that?  I think that this is a plan which would be really well suited to present-day operation with MU or push-pull trains.

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2018, 02:11:29 pm »
Actually you can ignore the top board really as I have obviously had a brain meltdown and not arranged an out and back 'Up' and 'Down' line but have 2 lines leaving and coming back in the same direction :doh: :-[
I'll redo that top diagram when I'm more awake

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2018, 03:24:25 pm »
I love the ideas Newportnobby, they are very much appreciated. Looking forward to the amended plan  :thankyousign: :NGF:

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2018, 06:52:30 pm »
I reckon I've sussed it now. Run an imaginary train around and see if all fits. Pointwork should reflect the ability to haul a train into the station and release the loco to run back to the loco shed. The branch line is, of course, bi-directional.






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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2018, 08:52:14 pm »
that is stunning, I really appreciate you taking the time to do this, many many thanks. You know what? I reckon this is a real goer

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Re: Inspiration needed
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2018, 09:35:58 pm »
Thanks. To make life a bit easier and to make the most of the scenics I would suggest you have an 'open board' build i.e. you only put baseboard surface under the track. This would allow you to build inclines etc above and below track level. Don't forget to lower one track whilst raising the other to reduce gradient height. Good luck.

 

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