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Author Topic: Trémargat St. Croix (a small Brittany fishing harbour)  (Read 4347 times)

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Offline AlexanderJesse

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Re: Trémargat St. Croix (a small Brittany fishing harbour)
« Reply #165 on: July 02, 2018, 09:05:43 pm »
I would also say the yachts are just fine little daysailors for the coasts of brittany. They sure are not bluewater yachts,  but fitting a small port.

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« Reply #166 on: July 03, 2018, 07:11:00 am »
Good looking yachts Weave. Ace job  :thumbsup:

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Re: Trémargat St. Croix (a small Brittany fishing harbour)
« Reply #167 on: July 03, 2018, 07:27:06 am »
Yep, great little boats.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Trémargat St. Croix (a small Brittany fishing harbour)
« Reply #168 on: July 03, 2018, 08:19:26 am »
Love the little yachts.
Maybe I’ll get one of those for Trepol Bay harbour.
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Re: Trémargat St. Croix (a small Brittany fishing harbour)
« Reply #169 on: July 03, 2018, 11:19:01 am »
ahoy

my experience is more with dinghy sailing, but have always kept an interest in larger boats and they look great.

most of what you need is probably found just by looking at photos (stock image libraries often have a few shots and angles of the same subject) to get the details looking right.

some look like they are hovering:



some get a bit of emotional support



some look like a chap after a rough night (in the old cobblers)


don't forget the rudder, usually shorter than the keel



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Re: Trémargat St. Croix (a small Brittany fishing harbour)
« Reply #170 on: July 03, 2018, 11:52:42 am »
Hi Black Sheep,

Thank you for the pics. Very helpful.

We used to go down to Port Solent for lunch sometimes so need to go again soon for rigging research but as it's a marina those pics are great for the underside.

It's stupid things like I forgot to put a window at the front  :doh:.

It's all very fiddly and they need railings etc.  :worried:

I'm enjoying attempting the yachts with the TV on but must get back to the layout room at some point as the trains are being neglected.

Cheers weave  :beers:

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« Reply #171 on: July 03, 2018, 12:35:48 pm »
while many do have windows (on a yacht you might not always have electrics below deck), some only have a skylight if the cabin section is not tall enough to fit a window so that might be a way of correcting things.

street view images of (and photos available to street view) of harbours should help with rigging, places such as Scarborough and Port De Soller (two that spring to mind due to family links)  should help with the rigging

the most common is the Bermuda rig, mast positioned somewhere between halfway and 1/3 back from the bow held by 3 or 4 shrowds from near the top leading to the bow and each side (often a bit behind the mast) and a 4th to the stern but not always


boom either supported by a line from the top of the mast or an X shaped wooden stand when no sail is hung (many modern boats the sail winds into the boom)

Then there's the jib forwards of the mast, often rolled into a cover on it's halliard, some larger boats might have twin jibs of different sizes fitted but I'd only bother with that detail in O gauge!

for a bit of variety you could do a gaff rigged yacht with or without the genoa / spinnaker stuck out the front on it's pole




perhaps we'll see a tall ship visiting port one day :D


anything specific you need help finding info for please just ask - sometimes it's just knowing the correct term to put in google to filter out the clutter

 

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« Reply #172 on: July 03, 2018, 12:50:25 pm »
The Models appear to be of a small yacht in the 20 to 25ft range. if it has a single keel then it's likely if will be no more than 6 ft at it's maximum depth below the water line.
 If it's a bilge keeler (twin keels) it's likely the pair of keels would be about 3ft 6 inches maximum below the water line.
The water line being the top of the blue antifouling paint on the boat..

Boats which spend a lot of time sitting on their keels normally have shorter keels in height than those kept afloat.

which reminds me I must finish the drawing for the keel for my own sailing boat (305mm to the foot scale)
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Re: Trémargat St. Croix (a small Brittany fishing harbour)
« Reply #173 on: July 03, 2018, 03:14:54 pm »
Thanks guys,

Really helpful. I thought that the boom needed a boom topping lift (hark at me getting all nautical  :D).

All great stuff to know. Have looked at pics but it's not always easy to see in pics when you haven't got a clue what you're looking for.

Need to find a way of getting all the rigging at the top of a needle without it being just a big glue mess.

Apologies, I'm new to this  :-[

Cheers weave  :beers:


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Re: Trémargat St. Croix (a small Brittany fishing harbour)
« Reply #174 on: July 08, 2018, 11:14:12 pm »
 :hellosign:  Them yachts are looking good Chris, thanks for the update
      regards Derek.

 

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