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Offline exmouthcraig

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BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« on: February 26, 2018, 11:21:42 am »
Morning all

Having just taken delivery of 2 triple packs of Farish conflat courtesy of Model Rail Direct sale which this forum highlighted too me came my thinking.

I have huge container trains past out fields up and down twice an hour, there never seems to be any pattern in the placement of empties in the rake, they seem to be in all places rather then either from the front or the back.

This then made me think,

1, did BR run sole conflat trains in 1962 or were they just in a mixed freight train?

2, in either make up were containers in the rake depending on where their final destination was OR could a mixed freight/pure container train of had containers removed from anywhere in the rake leaving 6 containers behind loco, 1 missing, 10 containers, 2 empties and so on?

Or is this a push too far for realism?

Many thanks

Craig


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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 11:32:22 am »
I'll be interested in replies to this as well.
In all the many transition era DVDs I have there is not one train made up solely of conflats. They did seem to run in mixed freights and I run a rake of 25 or so box vans and the 3 conflats I have just to mix it up a little.
I can't answer point 2 - hence my interest :hmmm:

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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 12:08:11 pm »
It's possible that you might have seen an entire train consisting of Conflats. But the design was conceived not as a block train component but as a van with a removable body to speed transhipment. So the usual team-era train marshalling principles still applied - ie trains were made up wherever possible into destination order, so full loads would normally have been removed starting at one end and not at random along the train. However both loaded and empty conflats might be delivered to a destination, so you could quite possibly have a mixture of both in the train formation.

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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 03:44:20 pm »
There are a few steam era pictures of container trains here.

The most famous was the Co-Bo haulled Condor (up to 27 wagons!) which ran between London and Glasgow (LMS) - I believe the specific wagons for this train aren't available in N Gauge.

Wagons would be taken off and added as required - just as per any other steam era freight train. Seeing empty container wagons within a train wouldn't be that common. Once shunted, the container would be craned off the wagon and delivered to the end customer. The flat wagon would either be loaded with a new container or wait in the yard until the container was returned.

Todays container trains work a little differently with trains running from ports to inland container terminals. Trains may split or combine enroute which accounts for empty spaces dotted throughout the train.

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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 04:02:01 pm »
Some great pics, there (and I just happen to have RTR models of all the locos shown) :D

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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2018, 04:25:38 pm »
Cheers Steven absolute quality pictures and information there

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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 04:29:11 pm »
Some great pics, there (and I just happen to have RTR models of all the locos shown) :D
Agree but, iím sorry to say, I only have a RTR model of the Class 33!
Agree though, conflats with containers would often be included in mixed goods trains.
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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 10:03:51 am »
What fabulous pictures. Pity they don't form part of a book on the subject.

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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2018, 10:31:26 am »
Yep, great pics. The Condor was an important but totally ignored train of the period, and certainly worth modelling.
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Re: BR conflat Steam Traffic SR
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2018, 12:31:57 pm »
Yep, great pics. The Condor was an important but totally ignored train of the period, and certainly worth modelling.

Ideally headed by a couple of class 28s :D

 

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