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Author Topic: RevolutioN Sturgeon  (Read 8262 times)

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Offline monkey_brains

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #105 on: September 08, 2018, 12:30:40 pm »
Official website shows that they are awaiting corrected CAD drawings and the order book will open very soon

https://www.revolutiontrains.com/projects/

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #106 on: September 16, 2018, 07:55:13 pm »
A question.
Should this thread be moved to 'Crowdfunding > RevolutioN Trains' so that all their announcements are at the same location?

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #107 on: September 17, 2018, 06:50:10 am »
Thanks Ovlavache, I've moved it now. :thumbsup:

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #108 on: September 21, 2018, 04:10:26 pm »
Looking on the Revolution website, there is news letter saying Order book open, CAD complete. I cannot find the ordering bit. My fingers are twitching and credit card wincing as I can find a good home for 5 black Sturgeons. Any ideas anyone?

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #109 on: September 21, 2018, 04:17:04 pm »
You get good caviar from black sturgeons :-)

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2018, 04:23:11 pm »
Sounds a bit fishy to me!  :sorrysign:

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2018, 06:47:42 pm »

Hello all,

Apologies, order book will be opening very soon.  Just a couple of last minute details to sort out.

Cheers

Ben A.



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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #112 on: September 21, 2018, 06:54:20 pm »
The comment about "Sounds fishy" was in no way meant towards Revolution Trains. It was just a light-hearted response to the previous comment.

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #113 on: September 22, 2018, 11:12:08 am »
I'm also eagerly waiting for the online order form so I can put down a deposit for a BR Black and BR Gulf Red "Sturgeon". (Ditto a BR WR Green Class 128 DPU.) My "ESSO" Class B tank wagons are simply superb models.

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #114 on: September 22, 2018, 11:52:40 am »
Agreed Chris, my Class B tanks are superb, exquisitely detailed and finished. My only suggestion if there is a further batch (or Class As) would be to review the weighting to see if it can be reduced a tad as they are pretty heavy and even my 12 wagons can cause Class 24s (no weaklings) to slip a bit on a 180 degree curve, the only steam locos I would be confident of hauling them without issue would be my tender driven B1s and J39s. As I say, not a criticism but a suggestion.

As to Sturgeons and 128s, as soon as the orders are open I will be in too!


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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #115 on: September 22, 2018, 12:09:52 pm »
I would also buy "ESSO" Class A tank wagons.

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #116 on: September 29, 2018, 02:07:20 pm »
Agreed Chris, my Class B tanks are superb, exquisitely detailed and finished. My only suggestion if there is a further batch (or Class As) would be to review the weighting to see if it can be reduced a tad as they are pretty heavy and even my 12 wagons can cause Class 24s (no weaklings) to slip a bit on a 180 degree curve, the only steam locos I would be confident of hauling them without issue would be my tender driven B1s and J39s. As I say, not a criticism but a suggestion.

As to Sturgeons and 128s, as soon as the orders are open I will be in too!


Roy

Definitely second the weight opinion Roy! Beautiful models! They have confirmed that my layout (when I actually have spare time to build it!) will need to be flat! I'm definitely in for a couple of sturgeons and a class 128 railcar!
Still planning a layout...

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #117 on: September 30, 2018, 11:51:42 pm »
Hello all,

The CAD drawings for the two Sturgeon variants - with and without bodyside drop-down doors - are just about done.





There are a few little tweaks needed on the inside of the doors as the panelling needs a minor revision.



Differences between the wagons, apart from the obvious doors, include the profile of the end section (which is removable) and the shape of the buffers.  We are also planning at least one air-braked "Tench" version too.



Once the very minor niggles are sorted out we will be ready to open the order book, and the sooner we get firm orders the sooner we can get this model into tooling!  The record for the fastest seller so far is the IZA which reached the required numbers in just a few weeks, so we are hoping this versatile, imposing and widespread wagon will do even better!

For more pictures and information see our News page at www.revolutiontrains.com

This wagon is, like our Class B tankers, being overseen by former Farish designer Colin Allbright and so far we are very happy with the look of the model.

Cheers

Ben A.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2018, 11:55:33 pm by Ben A »



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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #118 on: October 01, 2018, 12:30:32 am »
I'd wondering how a Sturgeon or two would fit into a short, steam-era PW train with Grampus and Mermaid wagons on its way to a minor track repair job. The side door variant carrying rails and sleepers presumably?

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #119 on: October 01, 2018, 12:53:58 am »

Hi Longbow,

I don't have a definitive answer to your question, but I suspect there isn't one.  It seems to me that Sturgeons were designed to be as flexible as possible with doors and ends fully demountable - and this is how they were used pretty much from the start.

With doors they were intended for carrying ballast, fishplates, signalling parts, tools, and anything and everything that the engineers might need.   Without, they seemed to be used more usually for complete 60' track panels - either bringing new ones to a location, or taking old ones away. 

And the jobs could be a brief possession to change a short length of track to a large junction renewal job.

Certainly there is every reason to think that for some jobs maybe two flats loaded with track panels, a doored version carrying tools/cables/bags of cement/track joiners/other bits and maybe a couple of Dogfish or similar could be a very modellable proposition.

Our Sturgeon launch page here http://www.revolutiontrains.com/sturgeon-declares-revolution-scotland/ shows a Black Five with a black, door-fitted Sturgeon immediately behind the loco, but doesn't show the rest of the train.  Further down there is a very attractive short engineers train behind a Class 40 - two Sturgeons, including one fitted with cranes, a 4-wheel runner and a BR Brake van.

However, I'd be really interested to hear more from those with more knowledge of operations in the steam era.

Cheers

Ben A.



 

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