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Author Topic: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?  (Read 425 times)

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Offline Jimbo

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1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« on: February 15, 2018, 09:51:08 am »
Do you think it would have been feasible back in the day to see the 1920s 'Great Western' livery on tank loco's mingling with the 'newer' 1934 'shirt button' for a small period when the livery changed?

I'm asking because I like and own loco's in both liveries, plus I don't really want to re-livery any of them if I can help it, although I do actually have one or two with the post-war GWR lettering so may have to do those at some point.
One loco is the 64xx pannier which wasn't introduced until 1932 I believe so i'm really narrowing down my modelling period quite considerably!  :hmmm:  Thanks folks!
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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2018, 10:18:25 am »
Very possible, locos or carriages were not repainted when the recommended livery changed, but when they were next in for a Major service. Particularly lesser locomotives like tanks on branch lines etc not doing many miles, may take many years before repainting.

I know maintenance was not as good in the BR era but there were still Locos running around with GWR on them at the end of steam..
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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2018, 04:09:12 pm »
Perfectly feasible. I believe the repaint cycle on the GWR could be as long as 7 years for the lowliest tank engines and older coaching stock. Express locos and mainline stock got treated much more promptly but that "Great Western" tank engine could have hung in in that livery until the start of WW2.
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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2018, 11:35:41 am »
Brilliant! Thanks ever so much, that's settled things in my mind then, I had a feeling through looking at various pictures and a bit of research etc that there would have been at least a slight overlap perhaps.

Thinking that the GWR at the time would have been quite strict or on the ball with their image etc I didn't realise the change could have taken as long as a few years in some respects though!  That gives me slightly more scope now, ta!
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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2018, 11:52:55 am »
On a slightly related subject, at around 4:26 on this video of Snow Hill at some point during the 1960s, there's a locomotive emblazoned with "GREAT WESTERN", is that likely to have been a BR era "nostalgic" repaint?

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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2018, 12:06:25 pm »
Yes, that one was a fairly well know repaint. It crops up in several albums of the GWR around Birmingham.
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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2018, 12:20:55 pm »
IIRC thatís an early example of preservation, the loco having been bought by Pat Whitehouse and possibly others. Used a lot on railtours at that time as well.

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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2018, 12:57:49 pm »
IIRC thatís an early example of preservation, the loco having been bought by Pat Whitehouse and possibly others. Used a lot on railtours at that time as well.

I believe the loco was restored to that condition before it was preserved. Here is a shot of it on railtour duty at Dudley in 1964, it was not bought for preservation until 1965 IIRC.

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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2018, 01:29:43 pm »
And here's one at ca. 4:04 on this video with "GWR" on the side.
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Re: 1934 GWR shirt button/1920s Great Western mix?
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2018, 01:47:43 pm »
And here's one at ca. 4:04 on this video with "GWR" on the side.

I believe that is 6634, now resident on the SVR.
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