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Author Topic: DJ Models class 17 Clayton  (Read 9508 times)

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Offline koyli55002

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #150 on: May 14, 2018, 08:34:22 pm »
Hard to know what the answer is - especially in the long term.
Personally, I've believed for years that the Chinese "low cost production" would last only as long as was needed to ensure that the other nations' manufacturing base for the product in question was well and truly dead in the water.
THEN, once you have the buyers on their knees and with little choice where to go for their product, you hike the price up and up.
Additionally, of course, buyers trying then to switch to another country of manufacture would, in all probability, incur the (already well documented) problems of such as "missing" or "broken" tooling, having to educate a whole new supplier in the niceties of quality control, the need for them to at least provide some semblance of a time frame, etc......... 
Not just the Western nations falling foul of these practices either, I suspect. Japan and Korea especially must be looking over their shoulders by now. From my own experience, the Korean shipyards are already feeling the pain from their neighbours across the sea.

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #151 on: May 14, 2018, 08:42:27 pm »
And where will the next cheap manufacturing base with a well educated workforce come from?

North Korea of course.  I give it ten years and our models will be made there.

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #152 on: May 14, 2018, 08:52:23 pm »
And where will the next cheap manufacturing base with a well educated workforce come from?

North Korea of course.  I give it ten years and our models will be made there.

Bangladesh is already a major diecast vehicle producer for Ixo and Atlas Editions. When Hornby took over Arnold/Lima much of the better Lima N tooling never made it from Italy, and some of the 00 gauge items found their way to another range (Vi-trains).
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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #153 on: May 14, 2018, 08:59:59 pm »
Be interesting to hear more from Dave especially as he's reading this at the moment ;) ;)

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #154 on: May 14, 2018, 09:18:15 pm »
Hi,
i'm not going to add to this thread at this time, as i dont think i can say anything without possibly making the situation regarding the tools etc worse, as someone pointed out in an earlier message.....'walls have ears'.

sorry, maybe when things are sorted or its dead completely i'll say more.
cheers
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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #155 on: May 14, 2018, 09:20:22 pm »
Here's hoping that you can get summat else rolling soon.

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(I'd love to see the N J94!)

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #156 on: May 30, 2018, 11:45:38 am »
Anyone got a Parkwood Kit Clayton to sell? I sold mine 5 years ago in anticipation of the DJ version.

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #157 on: May 30, 2018, 10:00:36 pm »
Sorry keeping my Parkwood until something better appears

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #158 on: May 30, 2018, 10:08:11 pm »
Has anyone any thoughts on re-motorizing a Lima version.

what is the size and detail like, I know the motor is  :censored:

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #159 on: May 30, 2018, 10:17:49 pm »
It's not a real class 17,it's an ancient DB v100 with a paint job

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #160 on: May 30, 2018, 10:26:22 pm »
Just as well I have a Parkwood kit and mechanism then.  :)

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #161 on: May 30, 2018, 10:27:12 pm »
It's not a real class 17,it's an ancient DB v100 with a paint job

Yep completely different proportion to a class 17 (too short for one thing), and the Lima effort had a huge lump in the side to accommodate the mechanism. Don't bother.

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Something like the Kato DD13 might be a better basis for a 17 - with a replacement cab? Is that what the Parkwood model uses for a chassis anyway?
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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #162 on: May 30, 2018, 10:45:35 pm »
Yes it is a DD13chassis under my Parkwood

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #163 on: May 30, 2018, 10:48:44 pm »
Yes DD13 and it is a very nice chassis.  Its just way down my build list.

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Re: DJ Models class 17 Clayton
« Reply #164 on: May 31, 2018, 07:42:55 am »
Guess we are all equally as bummed that the model got dropped.  :'(
 Hopefully it will get made once day soon.  :hmmm:

I was REALLY looking forwards to getting the ones i had ordered.

Craig

 

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