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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #120 on: July 17, 2018, 10:47:35 pm »
thanks for that anthony

we all loom forward to seeing you soon - maybe rugby north yard as well. anybody need an extra pair of  hands ?

Cheers mate. Thank you for the offer, but one operator is more than enough for this layout.

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #121 on: July 18, 2018, 12:00:49 am »
Been a few weeks since we had an update on the new loco stabling point. Now that SSA has been fully confirmed for the Shrewsbury show in October, I really need to pull my finger out :doh:

First things first, I still need to install a new point motor then crack on with ballasting, weathering and detailing the area.

Been doing a little browsing online recently, as I know what I'd like down there (around the stabling point) but it's finding the right materials / products to add.

Came across this last week...
 




A cracking little product from Justin at Scale Model Scenery. Extremely fine laser cut wood tube clamp safety railings. Now these will go perfectly down the middle to add separation and a little added safety for drivers and maintenance staff between the platform lines and the stabling point.



You can see in the photo that I have drawn a red line. This is where I am planning on installing the safety railing. Chuck in an old oil drum or 2, general clutter and jobs a good en. Maybe even a NOT TO MOVED board?

Remember, this will be just a stabling point, not a loco TMD, so just the bare minimum of clutter is needed really. I may also bring the track in ever so slightly, as I feel the stabling road sits a little to near to the edge of the board.

Also after being out on track today (the day job) I was busy snapping a few photos for another idea. I have a single carriage siding on SSA, so I'm thinking of adding a couple of stand pipes so my coaching stock can quench their thirst. Also the stand pipes will act as good marker posts for my uncoupling magnets.

These photos were taken by myself at Northampton Riverside sidings, adjacent to Plt 3. 









Note the stand pipe and hose that runs under the rails and out the other side into the wide way. Also every so often there is a T piece with another length of hose sufficient enough to reach up to the end of a Mk1 or Mk2 coach with an isolating stock Large Chicken :). These would then be plugged onto the water tank fillers. Old school railway term is tanking the train (take on water) I can easily scratch the stand pipes together, and the lengths of hose running along side the track could be made from lengths of say Peco 16/0.2mm wire. Nice subtle touch and again, something you don't see modelled much in 2mm.



The red dots are where I plan on installing the stand pipes, but I may install them in the 6" between the carriage siding and platform 1. Trains can be tanked either on the carriage siding or on platform 1 this way.   

Sadly gone are the days when these sidings at Northampton would of been full of Blue Grey and NSE Mk1's which would of been stabled between the rush hour 'Cobbler' duties that ran to and from London Euston with a class 85. This was the reason why 86401 received NSE livery and was named Northampton Town because of these trains. Funnily enough, she hardly ever worked them! The sidings are still in use today, albeit for stabling class 350 units overnight, after receiving attention at the nearby Siemens EMU depot at Kings Heath.

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #122 on: July 18, 2018, 01:47:35 am »
look forward to seeing the layout


yes, Sadly gone are the days when these sidings at Northampton would of been full of Blue Grey and NSE Mk1's which would of been stabled between the rush hour 'Cobbler' duties that ran to and from London Euston with a class 85 and i remember them - those are the days

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #123 on: July 18, 2018, 02:03:10 am »
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How common were those railings back then? I know they crept in as common sense and person responsibility got taken over by the H & S brigade I am just thinking back to the Blackpool Sidings I know they didn't use to have them in the day.
Also with the watering pipes would it not be worth placing them between the lines so they can quench the thirst coaches on either line? Of course just a though totally up to you and you can tell me to wind my neck in!  :D

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #124 on: July 18, 2018, 09:23:23 am »
How apt you plan to model the standpipes as the North West prepares for a hosepipe ban starting 5th August affecting 7 million folks :laugh:

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #125 on: July 18, 2018, 07:45:08 pm »
there is always the palisade fencing and maybe an old hose or old timber sleepers that could be added

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #126 on: July 18, 2018, 08:22:35 pm »
How common were those railings back then?
I remember similar railings between some tracks at Rugby Midland back in the (late) 1950s.
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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #127 on: July 18, 2018, 08:24:56 pm »
How common were those railings back then?
I remember similar railings between some tracks at Rugby Midland back in the (late) 1950s.

Fair come back I will shut up and wind my neck in!! :-[

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #128 on: July 18, 2018, 08:27:40 pm »
was that by the housing estate ?

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #129 on: July 19, 2018, 10:20:54 pm »
@acko22 No no, good points well made sir.

Well first of all maybe I should of stated that I will not be painting these yellow. They will be painted more of an off white / cream colour and weathered. It's only going to be a small length anyway. They will look something like this when finished...



Now this is exactly the same type of clamp railing that I will be installing. I took this photo today whilst working in Weedon, Northants on the WCML between Rugby and Couteenhall. These railings protected staff from falling off the edge also the main running lines when working on the signalling location cabinets (now long gone since the signalling upgrade in 2003) Also for leaning against to have a rest, a smoke and a nose pick maybe ;D

Now I know the LOCs would of been installed in the early 1960's when the WCML was first electrified and colour light signals were installed, but I'm not sure on the date when these railings would of been installed. After talking to a fellow old skool colleague, he reckons they would of been installed at the same time as the LOCs, but another says late 80's early 90's. Either way, I'm still covered to feature this type of railing on the layout.

Here's another shot where they have installed a new signal post, but kept the original railings (also at Weedon) There used to be a SGE filament type signal here and they have just replaced it with a new style LED Doorman type (2003 upgrade) If it ain't broke, don't fix it I guess.     



As regards the stand pipes, yes, I think I will place them in the 6' between platform 1 and the carriage siding.

@Innovationgame some of those railing are actually still there around Rugby believe it or not! As are some of the old EP point air isolating valves! Another engineering marvel now confined to the history books. I worked on a few sets of those points! 

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2018, 10:22:01 pm »
How apt you plan to model the standpipes as the North West prepares for a hosepipe ban starting 5th August affecting 7 million folks :laugh:

Hey, the trains must be kept running  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: I love how the media are calling it a heat wave!?!? Has nobody mentioned to them that this is a proper summer?? I know we haven't had one for a few years, but come on :beers:

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Re: Sutton St Annes - Provincial North-West Lancs - 1990-1995
« Reply #131 on: July 20, 2018, 03:36:03 am »
there were some in the euston / camden area but looking forward to developments

 

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