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Author Topic: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?  (Read 512 times)

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Offline LostBoy30A

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Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« on: January 10, 2017, 02:00:28 pm »
I would like to get; a/ Minitrix Britannia traction tyres, b/ Daywat lube oil.
If only I could find one outlet for both products, I'd happily pay to get them both delivered first class in one parcel.
Please can anyone let me know if/where this is possible?
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2017, 02:37:37 pm »
I'd suggest Peter's Spares - http://www.petersspares.com/?searchStr=minitrix

Might be best to ring before ordering and perhaps accept an alternative oil if they don't have that one.

Mike

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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2017, 03:06:45 pm »
I'd suggest Peter's Spares - http://www.petersspares.com/?searchStr=minitrix

Might be best to ring before ordering and perhaps accept an alternative oil if they don't have that one.

Mike
I just spoke to Martin at Peter's Spares. What a cracking good bloke. They have developed their own lube for doing repairs which I will buy, and he's convinced me to buy Bullfrog Snot. Thinking about it, I have a Lima N 31, and a few 00 locos that also require tyres. Looking that the prices of individual tyre packs, and given that a jar of BfS will do approx 1000 wheels, it's a no-brainer.
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2017, 04:05:34 pm »
I've always imagined it must be pretty labour intensive to a) find a bullfrog with a cold, and b) hang around long enough until it sneezes.
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 05:08:29 pm »
Daywat is now no longer made as Daywat, and instead is marketed by Lytchett Manor models:

http://www.lytchettmanor.co.uk/lytchett-manor/oils

Cheers,
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2017, 06:19:01 pm »
I've always imagined it must be pretty labour intensive to a) find a bullfrog with a cold, and b) hang around long enough until it sneezes.
:laughabovepost:
This is actually on the Bullfrog Snot website home page.

"Belligerent Berkshires? Malingering Mallets?
Derelict Diesels? Pathetic Pacifics?
Sluggish Switchers?
You need BULLFROG SNOT! Liquid Plastic Traction Tires
Extracted from the suffering sinuses of mature Mojave Macho male frogs
in mating mode, under the full moon
as fast as our wrugged wranglers can wround ‘em up
off their free-wrange and herd ‘em in
… just kidding!!
All scales - All brands - No disassembly - No special tools
The performance improvement that you can install."
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2017, 06:39:11 pm »
I wouldn't go near Bullfrog snot if you paid me - it cannot be good for the underlying wheel surface if you want to get it off again, it removes wheels that could be picking up power from their current conducting role, and I can't see how it'd be possible to get a smooth completely identical thickness layer all round a wheel - this introducing lumpier running and wobbly running - precisely what we want to avoid.

Cheers,
Alan
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2017, 07:36:57 pm »
Daywat is now no longer made as Daywat, and instead is marketed by Lytchett Manor models:

http://www.lytchettmanor.co.uk/lytchett-manor/oils

Cheers,
Alan

Just curious - what's the Daywat that Knightwing sell?

http://www.knightwing.co.uk/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?product=DayWat
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2017, 07:51:53 pm »

Just curious - what's the Daywat that Knightwing sell?

http://www.knightwing.co.uk/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?product=DayWat


It's the right stuff - may well just be the remaining stocks though, as Lytchett Manor said they were the sole producers of it now.

Either'll do the job.

Cheers,
Alan
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2017, 04:26:38 pm »

"Belligerent Berkshires? Malingering Mallets?
Derelict Diesels? Pathetic Pacifics?
Sluggish Switchers?
You need BULLFROG SNOT! Liquid Plastic Traction Tires
Extracted from the suffering sinuses of mature Mojave Macho male frogs
in mating mode, under the full moon
as fast as our wrugged wranglers can wround ‘em up
off their free-wrange and herd ‘em in
… just kidding!!
All scales - All brands - No disassembly - No special tools
The performance improvement that you can install."

Hmmmm...it's rare to hear such meek and mild ramblings from across the pond these days. But at least this one is done in jest.

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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 09:32:17 pm »
I wouldn't go near Bullfrog snot if you paid me - it cannot be good for the underlying wheel surface if you want to get it off again, it removes wheels that could be picking up power from their current conducting role, and I can't see how it'd be possible to get a smooth completely identical thickness layer all round a wheel - this introducing lumpier running and wobbly running - precisely what we want to avoid.

Cheers,
Alan
Fair enough point, but it arrived. I tried it out and I struggled and I thought of your comment here, thinking I'd blown over £20!
Then, because it also comes off very easily I took advice from another member and I kept practising. Yes, it's fiddly stuff and you'll probably end up having to trim off some excess with a sharp blade once it's cured; but oh boy! It was very much worth it in the end! My Brit now runs beautifully and I've just resurrected my ancient, obese, Lima Brush Type 2 whose tyres expired many years ago during decades of storage.
Next project with it, will be to choose just one pair of wheels on my Dapol 45xx which actually has less traction than my older Farish metal bodied 3F Jinty.
How ironic that I choose N gauge after I start using reading glasses.

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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2017, 12:12:17 am »
Next project with it, will be to choose just one pair of wheels on my Dapol 45xx which actually has less traction than my older Farish metal bodied 3F Jinty.

I suspect then you'll see problems. The 45xx has 6 driving wheel pickup on some and some with the rear bogie wheels picking up (but these are never very good, and I consider them as a bonus extra, not to be relied on). Cover one pair of outer drivers, and it'll lift the adjacent central set off the track, leaving only 2 remaining drivers picking up, and a little from the bogie if it has bogie pickups. Coat the central set and it risks being turned into a see-saw. Real risk of introducing a lot of stalling either way.

Does beg the question what you are trying to haul with it - they generally happily tow 2,3 or 4 coaches, or similar number of free rolling wagons, which is completely comparable to the real locos in real life.

I'll stick with tyres where originally fitted/necessary - use Minitrix replacements for Lima, works a treat  ;) , readily available from Peter's Spares in various flavours.

Cheers,
Alan
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Re: Mulitple purchases. Two birds with one stone?
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2017, 10:05:05 pm »
Dr Al, in this case i will leave the 45xx alone then. It did a lot better than the loads you've stated before slipping.
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