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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #3480 on: January 13, 2017, 08:50:53 pm »
That's very good news, Martin. All those who use the trains in the Trepol Bay-Port area will be very pleased. However, the enthusiasts in the Cant Cove area will miss the unusual train operations.
There may well be a few unusual "Test Trains" running in North Cornwall once the line is opened - some of which will be heading towards Cant Cove no doubt.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #3481 on: January 13, 2017, 09:58:21 pm »
I managed to paint a lot of buffers, today, whilst the light was good, but the new silver paint is not as good as the old Humbrol enamel. I may buy some Wargames Workshop dull silver type paint instead but acrylic paint won't go well on enamel. (Vice-versa is fine.) However, I then found some more goods stock, plus chassises, with unpainted buffers, for tomorrow. Then I will do a lot of red bufferbeams plus some yellow axlebox covers. I also have a couple of scenic items and figures to complete. Then I plan (at LONG last) to make the removeable barrel loads. So a train of prepainted goods stock to Trepol Bay Wagon Works and Port Perran CLPG works looks likely to be sent this coming week. with the last of the prepainted items (for now) and some surprises.

Photos. to come of the completed stock plus some December 'through' trains when we get some sunshine.

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #3482 on: January 13, 2017, 10:26:09 pm »
That's very good news, Martin. All those who use the trains in the Trepol Bay-Port area will be very pleased. However, the enthusiasts in the Cant Cove area will miss the unusual train operations.
There may well be a few unusual "Test Trains" running in North Cornwall once the line is opened - some of which will be heading towards Cant Cove no doubt.

That's good news, Martin but I still have a lot of trains to catch up with from December! 8-)

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #3483 on: January 14, 2017, 07:31:57 am »
I like milk trains, too, Martin, with either an ex-LMSR Stove B (North Cornwall) or Collett design BG (South Cornwall) for the guard to ride in but, usually, only a couple of milk tank wagons are taken to and from the Castle Estates and these are, usually, attached to passenger trains. The most interesting working (based om the 1962 Padstow WTT) is the 3.13PM SX "UP Perisher" from Penmayne to Exeter Central formed of:
VAN B (News)+2P 980 (Maunsell design BSK+BCK) (1)
(VAN B: S265S - S280S series)
Conveying "Perishables":
Box Vans
Meat Containers
Milk tankers (added for my WTT)
To Exeter Central, 1962
Vans to Templecombe & London
Coaches to Exeter
Weekdays ONLY
Before their withdrawal it was hauled by T9, then an N, then an 80XXX. (So, I must buy a Union Mills BR Black T9 soon!)
The VAN B (News) a 9.27AM on the 1.25AM d from Waterloo.
At 13.29 2P 980 arrives at Penmayne and at 2.39PM the T9 (or its replacement). [BR only switched to 24-hour clock times in 1964.]

At Wadebridge, it connects with a similar mixed working from Trepol Bay whose BR SR CCT (for Newspapers) and goods wagons with Perishable products are added before departure.

Unfortunately, I only have one weathered UNITED DAIRIES (who had the contract for this part of Cornwall) milk tank wagon (it is the first one in the rake behind the Stove R), but need to weather a couple more in differing stages of dirtiness. Of course, Lady Penelope Trevelver insists that any coming from the Castle Estates have, first, been through Penmayne's carriage washing plant! To promote the "Castle Estates" an additional milk tanker has been purchased which is awaiting respraying (when it is not so cold) in light blue and new transfers.

After 1st January 1963, the Western Region took over the whole of the Southern Region west of Salisbury including the North Cornwall lines and the ex-SR Maunsell local two-carriage sets were quite quickly replaced by a very mixed selection of carriages indeed: WR BR Standards in BR Lined Maroon, SR Green, and WR Chocolate & Cream liveries; Bulleid design coaches in SR Green and WR BR Lined Maroon; Collett and Hawksworth design coaches in WR BR Lined Maroon; and ex-LNER Thompson coaches in BR Lined Maroon. (I have photos., in books, depicting all of the above.) So any of the above can be used.

In real life, on 7th September 1964, the WR withdrew the goods services from Okehampton, Wadebridge (NCL) and Padstow. However, thanks to the untiring local promotion efforts of the Alliance for Cornwall's Railways, in our 'Alternate Cornwall' that did not happen although goods services were rationalised and more extensive use made of road transport.

Again, in real life, on 1st January 1965, the North Cornwall line lost all its steam power as the remaining, passenger services were handed over to WR single unit diesel railcars, by this time working just three or four services per day with no Sunday service.

So, until 1965, SR goods trains were hauled by BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4Ts following the withdrawal of the Ns.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #3484 on: January 14, 2017, 12:17:07 pm »
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the  :greatpicturessign: Chris, the hydraulics do look good especially in green livery
     regards Derek.

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #3485 on: January 15, 2017, 01:44:02 pm »
Thanks, Derek. I agree. I have to admit that I had not realised that the first "Hymeks" were not transferred to Plymouth Laira until April 1964 when D7027, D7028, D7072, D7073 were transferred from Bristol Bath Road (82A). Much later than I had thought. However, there must have been visitors before this. Interestingly, one "Hymek", D7032 (allocated to 86A Cardiff Canton! at the time) also visited Wadebridge on a North Cornwall trial on 6 January 1965.

I've managed to do some more detail painting, this morning and plan to do some more, this afternoon. However, the next two days I'm out most of the daylight hours.

Whilst researching in my library (i.e. pile of books) I've been very surprised to discover that the 45xx and 4575 Prairie tanks which worked Padstow-Bodmin General/Bodmin Road WR passenger trains were usually (at least those I've found so far) allocated to St Blazey shed as I had always thought. (see below.) Incidentally, St Blazey had had more 4575s than 45xx 2-6-2Ts allocated in the BR period.

ST BLAZEY 45xx 2-6-2Ts

4555 to 83E 24.03.1962 to 83D 01.06.1963
4565 to 83E 30.01.1960. Withdrawn 10/1961.
4564 to 83E 21.02.1959 to 83G Penzance 18.04.1959
4547 to 83E 04.10.1958. Withdrawn 02/1960
4523 to 83E 06.09.1952 to 83F Truro 13.08.1955
4508 to 83E 30.04.1951 to 83F Truro 06.10.1956
4517 to 83E 30.11.1950 to 82A 27.12.1952

4526 Last Shed: 83E Withdrawn 31.01.1958

The last survivor, 4555 was then preserved.

ST BLAZEY 4575 2-6-2Ts

5531 to 83E 09.09.1961 to 84A Laira 28.09.1963
5553 to 83E 03.12.1960. Withdrawn 11/1961.
5518 to 83E 03.12.1960 to 85B 28.09.1963
5572 to 83E 08.10.1960 to 83D 22.94.1961
5570 to 83E 26.03.1960 to 82C 09.09.1961
5564 to 83E 30.01.1960 to 83A 08.10.1960
5534 to 83E 30.01.1960. Withdrawn 09/1960
4577 to 83E 93.10.1959. Withdrawn 11/1959.
5551 to 83E 04.10.1958. Withdrawn 01/1960.
5523 to 83E 04.10.1958. Withdrawn 06/1960.
5539 to 83E 22.02.1958. Withdrawn 04/1962.
5557 to 83E 08.10.1955. Withdrawn 10/1960.
5531 to 83E 06.11.1954 to 83D 04.12.1954
4585 to 83E 17.05.1952. Withdrawn 10/1959
5502 to 83E 23.03.1946 to SBZ. Withdrawn 07/1958.

5531 (83E) will be preserved by the GWS at Bodmin General, in BR Lined Green Late Crest livery, as photographed at St. Blazey with 4564 (83G Penzance) on 29th April 1962 the day after steam traction ceased at the depot.

One 2-6-2T was stabled at the small shed at Bodmin (General), a sub-shed of St. Blazey, where three sets of enginemen were based, while other Prairie tanks, crewed by St. Blazey men, worked on the line on the numerous passenger trains which connected with the WR mainline services.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #3486 on: Yesterday at 08:58:18 pm »
I am making slow but steady progress with the detail painting of rolling stock: dull silver buffers, red bufferbeams for PO goods stock and Bulleid Light Pacific "Spitfire" (both), silver buffers for 80130 (but I forgot the horizontal mould lines have to be removed first so they will have to be repainted), white brake levers for goods stock and yellow axlebox covers for rolling bearing fitted stock. There will also have to be some cleaning up and overpainting in satin black (I could not find my nest thin paintbrushes after the pre-Christmas tidy-up). Photos. when complete. Much of the goods stock is for completion by martin in his local PO livery.

I've been studying my WTT, again, and have decided that I need a 3rd BR Green NB Type 2, either plain green (like D6315 in August 1961 at Wadebridge) or with a small yellow warning panel but no headcode boxes. There were two weekday NB Type 2 plus B Set rosters and at least one on goods (so, maybe two more?). (The Western turns became dieselised in 1961. The motive power that replaced the 45XX and 4575 Prairie tanks on WR passenger (Bodmin-Wadebridge-Padstow [Penmayne]) and goods services was the D63xx North British Type 2s allocated to Plymouth Laira but sub-shedded to St. Blazey depot.) Of course, a 45XX or a 4575 can be substituted due to a 'diesel failure'. Later, a 'visiting' 'Hymek'. (I don't think Plymouth Laira had any of its own 'Hymeks' until Summer 1965.)

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #3487 on: Yesterday at 09:02:31 pm »
You have a lot of detail painting to complete. I don't think I could do that much myself  :thumbsup:

In awe of your research it's simply pure dedication  :beers:

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« Reply #3488 on: Yesterday at 09:37:33 pm »
Thank you, Drakken, painting railway models, scenic work on my layout and research are how I relax. I have an ever-growing library about BR WR and BR SR in Cornwall. I'm also very interested in Working Timetables.

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« Reply #3489 on: Yesterday at 09:59:41 pm »
And now some of the promised photos. from last month. NB Type 2 D6348 hauled pre-Christmas special goods from Wadebridge which began at Bodmin Road and picked up some vans from Trepol Bay and Port Perran at Wadebridge is seen at Cant Cove waiting to continue to Penmayne after a Waterloo bound train from Penamyane arrives.

It's mainly composed of vacuum-braked stock but there are a few non-vacuum-braked vehicles at the end before the BR Standard brake van (a spare Minitrix one).



Many of these are bought kit-built vans (some NGS, I think) and some need transfers. The tarpaulin on the BR Grey open wagon is like those I plan to make for the Peco "Tube" wagon fleet.









My apologies, this one is out-of-focus.



34066 "Spitfire" arrives from Penmayne with a Waterloo bound passenger train formed of a CLPG Preserved CCT in Southern Railway green bound for Trepol Bay to collect urgently required spare parts, a brand new BR SR Green BR Standard BCK (replacing a withdrawn Bulleid design BCK) plus a BR SR Green Bulleid SK and BSoK forming a 3L Set. (This what would have happened to the 3L Sets if the WR had not taken over the SR lines West of Salisbury as it had already ordered the replacement BR BCKs.)







A close-up of 34066 showing where the red paint will need to be carefully removed!


 

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