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Offline LostBoy30A

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BR Late crest GW 45xx
« on: December 28, 2016, 02:01:34 pm »
I recently bought a Dapol unlined green 45xx with 'Great Western' lettering. I'd like to end up with a Brunswick green late crest version with an appropriate number for a late survivor.
I can't find any photos of this era for them, and I wonder if accuracy would dictate red-black lining, or would plain green be ok with certain numbers?
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« Last Edit: December 28, 2016, 03:40:02 pm by LostBoy30A »
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2016, 11:55:30 pm »
I can't find any photos of this era for them, and I wonder if accuracy would dictate red-black lining, or would plain green be ok with certain numbers?

Plain green would be OK for certain class members. The WR started phasing out lining on tank locos in the early 60s as a cost saving measure IIRC. I cannot recall any specific class members off the top of my head so it will be a case of scouring albums to find a prototype.
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2016, 12:01:20 am »
I have 5557 in unlined green with late crest at Par in 1960. Is a 4575 class (slopped top) tank OK or does it need to be the 4500 (flat-topped) class?
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2016, 11:03:50 am »
I have 5557 in unlined green with late crest at Par in 1960. Is a 4575 class (slopped top) tank OK or does it need to be the 4500 (flat-topped) class?
That's good to know, thanks. My one is Dapol's 4523 flat top.
I haven't had a reply from a contact source at Southall GW centre yet either so please folks, keep 'em coming.
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2016, 12:29:01 pm »
Here we are. 4574 at Laira in 1963. Flat-topped small Prairie, green livery, late  crest, no lining.

Remember that unlike in GWR days, there was no number painted on the buffer beams.  :NGaugersRule:
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2017, 08:15:53 pm »
Here we are. 4574 at Laira in 1963. Flat-topped small Prairie, green livery, late  crest, no lining.

Remember that unlike in GWR days, there was no number painted on the buffer beams.  :NGaugersRule:
Thanks again Karhedron. Is there supposed to be a link to a photo with your reply? I was a bit confused by it tbh.
Anyway, with thanks to all who have helped here, I have found the holy grail of matching loco numbers to dates and locations - purely by accident while looking at a Farcebook railway page. As a result, I have decided that the best number for my loco is 4564.   
Built: Swindon 10/1924.      
Withdrawn: 09/1964 from Gloucester Horton Road   with 39.92 years service and a total age of 40.28 years.

It takes a bit of deduction, but this is a wonderful database site http://www.brdatabase.info/index.php
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2017, 08:26:43 pm »
If you are looking for unlined then 4564 may not be the best choice as this loco was lined when it carried the late crest.



« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 09:16:57 pm by Karhedron »
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2017, 08:28:54 pm »
Here is a shot of 4574 in unlined livery with late crest at Laira.

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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2017, 09:23:12 pm »
That second shot of 4564 in front of a goods shed - was that taken at Weymouth?

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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2017, 09:28:57 pm »
That second shot of 4564 in front of a goods shed - was that taken at Weymouth?

I think it is Gloucester but not 100% certain.
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2017, 02:02:40 am »
If you are looking for unlined then 4564 may not be the best choice as this loco was lined when it carried the late crest.




That's ok, it just means I'll have to go that extra mile with lining transfers.
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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2017, 01:12:35 pm »
You may find some useful clips on YouTube if you watch the Railway Roundabout material. Most is in b&w but I think a few were in colour.

This features two flat-tops if that's of any help. 






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Re: BR Late crest GW 45xx
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2017, 02:36:36 pm »
Brilliant, ten0G. Railway Roundabout is always good, and thanks to you I don't have to sift through all that footage.
Slightly off-topic, I'll be able to give her and other locos some TLC as I'm far more advanced with my test track set up now. I might even forego club tonight in favour of completing it and actually running stuff indoors for the first time in decades!
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