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Author Topic: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!  (Read 25684 times)

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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #210 on: December 04, 2016, 05:57:57 pm »

Hello all,

Thanks to Paul (only me) for providing the link to the revised poster, which does clearly state it's N gauge.  As others have rightly said, something of an oversight on version 1!

On another note, I have often spoken to Heljan reps at Warley in the past and asked if they might consider producing models in N and the answer has always been "no" so I very much doubt their Class B will be shrunk down.

However during our recent trip to Brush Traction at Loughborough to measure the Class 92 there was some discussion about the eponymous loco produced at their "Falcon" works.

I did wonder whether Falcon could have the potential to be an interesting "one-off" purchase for those modelling the transition/BR Blue era.

In that case, I wonder whether Heljan may be more amenable to producing a model with CAD etc they already have, if crowdfunders provide the cash up front and  there is no investment needed by them?

Certainly if the Class B tankers are successful, and we show that our track record and way of working can crowdfund models of that period, then Falcon might be a good option as it is an interesting prototype which saw widespread use but is unlikely ever to trouble the major manufacturers.

Cheers

Ben A.

On the same basis wouldn't a Class 28 be a better option?

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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #211 on: December 04, 2016, 06:33:21 pm »
Falcon has already been done as a resin kit - a rather nice one.
As has Hawk, Lion, Kestrel and the twins. Although I would like a pair of the twins rtr. You could do a lot of liveries with the twins. I've tried to get Dapol biting on that one too.
I suspect the twins would get a better target audience than the other one off prototypes. They are iconic, like Deltic.

Bob

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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #212 on: December 04, 2016, 07:06:13 pm »
Please let's keep this on topic..the Class B Tank Wagons.

Don't want this to drift at the expense of any coverage of the Class B.

Start another thread if you desire?

Barry

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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #213 on: December 04, 2016, 08:02:43 pm »
Put some flyers in AGR Model Railway Store in Leighton Buzzard, the proprietor Anthony was more than happy to support the project.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #214 on: December 04, 2016, 09:05:13 pm »
Ben / Mike,

I didn't get to see you at Warley as you looked rather busy but do you have any more images / CAD etc. that might help whet our appetites?  :D
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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #215 on: December 04, 2016, 10:42:36 pm »

Hi Richard,

These are the last ones I have on this device...







Cheers

Ben A.



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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #216 on: December 05, 2016, 12:01:58 am »
Blimey, Ben... just gorgeous. Keep 'em coming!

#pleasesucceed  :thankyousign:

I should be counting those rivets!  :laugh3: #closetrivetcounter  :claphappy:
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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #217 on: December 05, 2016, 07:40:08 am »
Gosh they look fantastic, thank you. I may have to order some more.
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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #218 on: December 08, 2016, 11:13:05 pm »
I started off with three Esso ones on order.

Then I realised the singleton had a different running number.

Three became four.

I've added since Warley a trio and singleton of the unbranded ones.

That makes eight, enough to start a train (filling with other types for the time being).  This will look nice roaring through Croft Spa in a couple of years' time with a Class 33 or two at the head - yes, Class 33s did get as far as Teesside and even to Tyne Yard on through trains, though they more often were changed off at York.

Les

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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #219 on: December 09, 2016, 12:19:43 am »
I started off with three Esso ones on order.

Then I realised the singleton had a different running number.

Three became four.

I've added since Warley a trio and singleton of the unbranded ones.

That makes eight, enough to start a train (filling with other types for the time being).  This will look nice roaring through Croft Spa in a couple of years' time with a Class 33 or two at the head - yes, Class 33s did get as far as Teesside and even to Tyne Yard on through trains, though they more often were changed off at York.

Les

Didn't 33s get to Scotland on the Northfleet - Oxwellmains cement? Sorry, off topic.
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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #220 on: December 09, 2016, 11:14:30 pm »
I started off with three Esso ones on order.

Then I realised the singleton had a different running number.

Three became four.

I've added since Warley a trio and singleton of the unbranded ones.

That makes eight, enough to start a train (filling with other types for the time being).  This will look nice roaring through Croft Spa in a couple of years' time with a Class 33 or two at the head - yes, Class 33s did get as far as Teesside and even to Tyne Yard on through trains, though they more often were changed off at York.

Les

Didn't 33s get to Scotland on the Northfleet - Oxwellmains cement? Sorry, off topic.

They certainly got as far as Tyne Yard on Cemflos - this was the train whose return working finished off DP2 when the Cemflos fell off in front of it North of York. I think it had a Class 37 on that day.

One of these, either the oil or the cement, when running in steam days had to have 9Fs taken off because they couldn't cope with the load and schedule.  The replacements? (which coped perfectly), Thompson A2s - then eventually Class 33s in pairs working through.

Now, how about following the B Tanker with a Cemflo?

Les

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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #221 on: December 12, 2016, 10:02:49 pm »
When is the cut off date for this ? Just with Christmas etc coming up we are all skint !

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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #222 on: December 12, 2016, 10:23:10 pm »
Read the thread, all will be revealed!
Basically you need to buy now, not next month, not next week & not tomorrow!! NOW!!
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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #223 on: December 12, 2016, 10:47:29 pm »
Hi Craig and all

Ben and I had a review of the latest figures at the weekend and we have to confess that we are in a real quandary with this wagon. 

The bad news is that we are still not at a level of sales where we could justify tooling. The good news is that we have seen an increase in orders recently.

We really don't want to cancel the project and refund people, but we have to be realistic. What is becomingly increasingly clear is that the pattern of orders is different to our modern wagons with far fewer orders for sizeable numbers of the Class B than our TEAs (or the expressions of interest in our HOAs).

So we are going to give the project until the end of February before we make a final decision - that allows us to talk to people at Glasgow and allows customers to get Christmas out of the way.

Cheers, Mike



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Re: EXCLUSIVE - REVOLUTION Goes To The Top Of Class B!
« Reply #224 on: December 12, 2016, 10:52:24 pm »
Hi Craig and all

Ben and I had a review of the latest figures at the weekend and we have to confess that we are in a real quandary with this wagon. 

The bad news is that we are still not at a level of sales where we could justify tooling. The good news is that we have seen an increase in orders recently.

We really don't want to cancel the project and refund people, but we have to be realistic. What is becomingly increasingly clear is that the pattern of orders is different to our modern wagons with far fewer orders for sizeable numbers of the Class B than our TEAs (or the expressions of interest in our HOAs).

So we are going to give the project until the end of February before we make a final decision - that allows us to talk to people at Glasgow and allows customers to get Christmas out of the way.

Cheers, Mike


Mike,

Thanks so much for the update. It's not quite what I'd hoped for, but at least you're not cancelling it yet. Hopefully a February cut-off will give time for people to get their orders in...
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