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Offline DarrwestLU6

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Re: DC controllers
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2018, 02:04:15 pm »
Hi - I have some old second hand H&M DC controllers for my new N gauge layout. I read from one NGF member on a different thread that I should be wary with new locos using this - What do you think? I have a mixture of old and some new...

12 used:
  • MINITRIX - 2x BR class 27 Diesel,  Ivatt Tank 2-6-2T Black BR, A4 Mallard Green  4-6-2 N211, 2 x 9F 2-10-0 BR Black -N203, Brittania class  70000 4-6-2
  • Graham Farish: BR class 4 ex LMS Fowler 4F 0-6-0,  Jinty 3F 0-6-0 LMS Black, BR Shunter 0-6-0 Diesel, A3 Prince Pallatine 4-6-2
  • Lima Deltic Diesel in Green
And 2 New Graham Farish: Jubilee class in Maroon - LMS  4-6-0; and Ivatt 2-6-0 tender in LMS black (Class 2 mixed traffic) and one new DAPOL A4 Blue for running fancy expresses!

I have had no problems so far but these are only short test runs not extended use, and i don't want to burn out the motors...those members with new GF and Dapol what do you think?
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Re: DC controllers
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2018, 02:22:22 pm »
DarrwestLU6  I would invest in a New Morley controller this is just pure DC and comes complete with two controllers on the case and two switchable  plug in handheld controllers and a built in C D U + auxiliary output for accessories . The old style H&M’s  are not really suitable for the latest motors but can be used for lights ,signals etc etc .
If you do still use the old one DO NOT USE THE HALF WAVE OR PULSE FEATURES  it will damage your latest locos.
Bob Tidbury

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Re: DC controllers
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2018, 02:36:07 pm »
I'd go along with what Bob has said but wouldn't necessarily go 'new' for the controller. I bought my Vortrack one second hand about 5 years ago and am very happy with it. If you just need a twin track with built in CDU and accessory port then think about the Vesta.............

http://morleycontrollers.com/shopexd.asp?id=28

It just so happens Ray has one for sale on the N'Porium......

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=3309

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Re: DC controllers
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2018, 04:25:26 pm »
I am careful with money so I simply bought a Gauge master hand held unit and used the AC output from my old H&M as the power source. Works fine. You do of course need a separate AC supply for each controller.

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Re: DC controllers
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2018, 06:16:45 pm »
Hi - I have some old second hand H&M DC controllers for my new N gauge layout. I read from one NGF member on a different thread that I should be wary with new locos using this - What do you think?


Which controller exactly - Duette or Clipper type of unit in the grey box, with half-wave switch etc.?   They're rather too coarse for modern N models and the overload cut-out is probably tuned too high.. The old Minitrix stuff from the 70s and 80s can cope reasonably well but avoid half-wave as it just growls!

I've gutted my old Clipper of its resistance mat and fitted a panel mount Gaugemaster 100 (complete with LED) powered by the original transformer.  It works well as a spare, for bench testing etc.


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Re: DC controllers
« Reply #20 on: Today at 01:12:49 am »
Yes I have H&M Duettes. Thanks for the advice I’ll be careful not to run on half wave and may invest in Morley.

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Re: DC controllers
« Reply #21 on: Today at 03:40:44 am »
Firstly a confession - I am awake at night and have not read through the whole thread but need to issue a potential warning.
H&M duette controllers -
the old grey metal box type are fine for n gauge but do NOT use the half wave bit as this will de-magnetise the motor.
the newer plastic Hornby duette is a feedback controller and will burn out N gauge motors - I nearly found out the expensive way.

I still use an old duette plus  gaugemaster controllers.

I have a question regarding the old duette - does anyone know who can do repairs. My duette is now a single controller as one of the controls only cuts in at a scale 100mph. The other one can still do crawling speed. It was a Christmas present in 1980 and I would love to keep it going.

Elmo


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Re: DC controllers
« Reply #22 on: Today at 03:59:05 am »
 Go to BR Lines web site, and look at the nice controller he carries. They only need a 12 - 16 volt A.C. input to function, and are safe with all locos. :)

 

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