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Offline DCCDave

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Re: Test Valley Models Of Andover
« Reply #120 on: May 13, 2018, 09:41:09 pm »
I must admit, I can see no need for pages that are, in effect, catalogue pages, to be secure. Anything that has personal details on - yes.

The issue is that an HTTP request contains more information than that which appears on the screen, such as cookies and headers, often your machine's IP address and perhaps other personal details depending on how the site has been coded. If these are transmitted unencrypted then there is a risk of them being intercepted by a third party.

Check out here for an explaination of why Google are planning to show any sites which do not transmit all pages over https as being unsafe.

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Re: Test Valley Models Of Andover
« Reply #121 on: May 13, 2018, 10:12:31 pm »
I must admit, I can see no need for pages that are, in effect, catalogue pages, to be secure. Anything that has personal details on - yes.

The issue is that an HTTP request contains more information than that which appears on the screen, such as cookies and headers, often your machine's IP address and perhaps other personal details depending on how the site has been coded. If these are transmitted unencrypted then there is a risk of them being intercepted by a third party.

Check out here for an explaination of why Google are planning to show any sites which do not transmit all pages over https as being unsafe.

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Ah Google...the self appointed internet Police !

One of the reasons we moved to EKMS was improved security over a self hosted platform. Under GDRP the only pages that need to be secure are those requesting you enter personal information.
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Re: Test Valley Models Of Andover
« Reply #122 on: May 22, 2018, 01:19:50 am »
An example that isn't common yet, but might be:
not having https on every page means your ISP could effectively inject adverts on the HTTP pages, and there's nothing you could do about it.

So sure, there isn't much secure information (Credit cards or whatever) but there are many other things that can be gleaned from non-secure websites. with HTTPS only the host name (***.co.nz) is transmitted in plaintext, everything else (/catalogue/url) is hidden. you'd be surprised how valuable usage data is to 'companies'. (Page X is the most commonly visited etc)

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Re: Test Valley Models Of Andover
« Reply #123 on: May 22, 2018, 07:27:03 pm »
An example that isn't common yet, but might be:
not having https on every page means your ISP could effectively inject adverts on the HTTP pages, and there's nothing you could do about it.


So sure, there isn't much secure information (Credit cards or whatever) but there are many other things that can be gleaned from non-secure websites. with HTTPS only the host name (***.co.nz) is transmitted in plaintext, everything else (/catalogue/url) is hidden. you'd be surprised how valuable usage data is to 'companies'. (Page X is the most commonly visited etc)

Regards, Mike.

If they do that then they are in breach of their own terms and conditions, which say as a 'paid for' hosting site, they will not allow 2nd or 3rd party advertising on their hosted platforms.

You mean companies like Google and Facebook, who track your every click on the internet ? Or like Amazon have been doing so for the past ten years.
Please stop scaremongering.


The only way you can be sure that your every click isn't being recorded somewhere by somebody on the net is not to connect to it in the first place.
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Re: Test Valley Models Of Andover
« Reply #124 on: May 22, 2018, 11:20:11 pm »
There is literally no reason not to secure every page on your website, it is free, it is simple, and it will become the norm.

In my apocalyptic scenario, the advert wouldn't be hosted at the website, it is hosted in the ISP, which manage your traffic and route it. if your web traffic is unsecured, they can see all of it, that's how the internet works.

Regardless of why or how, securing traffic through the internet is not something to be ignored, it is how so many "free" services earn billions.
If you use HTTPS only the domain you visit is visible to an outside party.

So who cares if facebook know that I visit the andover website, and like n, and happen to be modelling sectorisation, unless they want really good intel for their advertising system, so they can sell more, better adds at a higher premium. That is mostly what they use the data for, but it's no big deal right?


[edit]https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/security/encrypt-in-transit/why-https Here is the view of google, nothing to do with policing, nothing to do with them earning money (ssl is free to implement) just trying to improve everyone's experience of the internet.[/edit]
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Re: Test Valley Models Of Andover
« Reply #125 on: July 01, 2018, 10:52:14 pm »
Iíve visited Grahamís new shop in the Chantry centre, Andover . More room, more stock , and the only model / train shop in the area







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Re: Test Valley Models Of Andover
« Reply #126 on: July 02, 2018, 08:58:46 am »
Wow a real model shop ,We used to have three in High Wycombe now none ,my nearest is Transport Treasures in Aston Clinton a very tiny shop with lots of N gauge stock and a very helpfull owner .But about an hours drive .The other excellent shop is an hour in the other direction and that The Dolls House at Twyford  again quite a lot of N gauge stock.
But unfortunately Test Valley Models in Andover is a bit to far for me ,but it does look very well stocked .
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