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Offline Outtenbach

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Playing with my Swiss bits....
« on: December 19, 2015, 08:59:45 pm »
Managed to clear my desk and lay out most of the Kato Glacier Express bits I have managed to get my mitts on.. ;D...........


I am very impressed with the kato Unitrack it's so easy to chop and change... :thumbsup:.


The only thing I am a bit unsure of is the height of the ballasting, but I'm sure something can be done to bring the ground up a bit higher.. :).........


The rolling stock certainly runs beautifully on it.. :thumbsup:..............




The buildings are not too bad, albeit a bit "plasticky", but after I have attacked them with Airbrush/paint brush etc they should look a little more realistic, fingers crossed...


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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2015, 11:48:13 pm »
IMO the island platform works well as a representation of the latest Swiss high platforms.

The height of the ballast shoulder is often cited as the 'biggest problem'  with Unitrack, but real track - especially up to date track does have high shoulders. As such I don't think the shoulder is too high - especially as it is the price to pay for all that 'plug and play' capability

foliage close to the trackbed will disguise as on my layout here:




There is a high shoulder in this picture but it is hidden by grass:

http://gwizz.piwigo.com/_datas/1/t/w/1twf9cska9/i/uploads/1/t/w/1twf9cska9//2014/09/07/20140907002946-680ecda6-me.jpg


another picture showing quite high ballast:
http://gwizz.piwigo.com/_datas/1/t/w/1twf9cska9/i/uploads/1/t/w/1twf9cska9//2014/09/07/20140907003118-4f725654-me.jpg

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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 01:19:38 pm »
Love those trains  :thumbs:

I have used cork (from cork sheets) to disguise the height of the shoulder - it has another advantage of keeping the unitrack in place (without needed to glue or pin down. Unitrack likes to flex a bit
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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 01:35:01 pm »
That stuff is awesome! Almost feel a Continental period coming on!

Personally, I wouldn't be too worried about the high track.... as has been suggested, it's relatively easy to bring the landscape up to it.

Plus, the more I learn about Kato track from this forum,  the more I'm starting to like it.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 01:53:46 pm »
The Allegra keeps tempting me...

I'm using Tomix track at the moment, which is similar to Kato but with a narrower and slightly lower shoulder, and using 2mm/3mm foamboard to build up the ground at the sides/between tracks; it's then quite easy to "disguise" with ballast.
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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 06:19:34 pm »

I also use Tomix track with a little bit of ballast to level the height..
nice pics with Allegra, it departs from Italy (Tirano station)..

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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 07:52:43 pm »
 :hellosign:
..and Allegra , in Romancia language (spoken in the Swiss Canton Grigioni) means WELCOME...

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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 10:55:14 pm »
The Allegra keeps tempting me...

I'm using Tomix track at the moment, which is similar to Kato but with a narrower and slightly lower shoulder,

Its the narrow shoulder that I dislike about Tomix (and Fleischmann) which makes the transition between the ready-made ballast and any added material either side more obvious
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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2016, 03:45:37 pm »
I have acquired a Kato Power unit and had a chance to run my trains and what a let down, the Allegra sounds as if it's going to blow up (high pitched whine), it makes more noise than my old Bemo stuff and that takes some doing...............The other sets with the Glacier express GE 4/4 and coaches are virtually silent, but the Allegra, oh dear!...........it runs smooth enough with the lights constant, but oh that noise.................Anybody got any good idea's?.........Will it improve with running in?.................Tony
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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2016, 12:13:33 am »
what a let down, the Allegra sounds as if it's going to blow up (high pitched whine), The other sets are virtually silent, but the Allegra, oh dear!.

I have to say I like the sound the Allegra model makes!. In general I like 'natural' electric 'whine' in model electric locos or EMUs. I consider it free sound without the need for complex DCC.

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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2016, 08:32:30 am »
You can disguise the shoulder with ballast inside and outside of the tracks. Kato ballast is expensive and a bit too 'bright' IMHO.

I used a mixture of various Woodland Scenic colours to get the effect I wanted. There is a topic on this
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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2016, 11:57:13 am »
what a let down, the Allegra sounds as if it's going to blow up (high pitched whine), The other sets are virtually silent, but the Allegra, oh dear!.

I have to say I like the sound the Allegra model makes!. In general I like 'natural' electric 'whine' in model electric locos or EMUs. I consider it free sound without the need for complex DCC.

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Thanks Gordon, I agree to a certain extent, but,I don't like full scale sound on small scale models.:thumbsdown:..............

Never mind, at least it runs nice and smooth..................And it seems as if I am not alone in having a noisy Allegra...


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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2016, 12:26:44 pm »
Here is my very quite GE 4/4 with a couple of experimental converted wagons ( link to conversion  http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=31167.msg355070#msg355070  )..................


They may not be 100% but i like them, they will both be getting a new roof as soon as I can get around to fitting them........


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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2016, 12:29:27 pm »
You can disguise the shoulder with ballast inside and outside of the tracks. Kato ballast is expensive and a bit too 'bright' IMHO.

I used a mixture of various Woodland Scenic colours to get the effect I wanted. There is a topic on this


Thanks Pengi, great link, very usefull................Tony
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Re: Playing with my Swiss bits....
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2016, 05:26:05 pm »
I have acquired a Kato Power unit and had a chance to run my trains and what a let down, the Allegra sounds as if it's going to blow up (high pitched whine), it makes more noise than my old Bemo stuff and that takes some doing...............The other sets with the Glacier express GE 4/4 and coaches are virtually silent, but the Allegra, oh dear!...........it runs smooth enough with the lights constant, but oh that noise.................Anybody got any good idea's?.........Will it improve with running in?.................Tony

Yes I HAD two but couldn't stand the noise so I sold them. Unacceptable Kato!

 

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