!!

Not Registered?

Welcome!  Please register to view all of the new posts and forum boards - some of which are hidden to guests.  After registering and gaining 10 posts you will be able to sell and buy items on our N'porium.

If you have any problems registering, then please check your spam filter before emailing us.  Hotmail users seem to find their emails in the Junk folder.


Thanks for reading,
The NGF Staff.

Author Topic: Unhappy Thread  (Read 83689 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline silly moo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 28102
  • Posts: 1556
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Female
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1035 on: May 03, 2018, 01:01:21 pm »
We have just been traipsing around looking for an electronic item that was supposedly in stock at three different stores. The stock was shown on their computer system but when we got to two of the stores there was nothing. Eventually after quite a bit of time and petrol, it was third time lucky.

Offline Ian Bowden

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26504
  • Posts: 306
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1036 on: May 04, 2018, 11:00:29 pm »
I have not been in possession of a television set for many years now.  I don't like television.  Since I moved into my current address, some seven and a half years ago, I have had three visits from TV license plonkers, i have also had three letters from them asking me to purchase a license and to provide proof of having done so, or let them know that I don't need one.  I have responded to this online each time.  That's all OK (ish)...   However, today, I got a letter advising me that I am to be visited by an 'enforcement officer' to confirm that I do not have a TV and that I do not watch live broadcasts on line.
The attendance at my door of a 'representative' wishing to confirm that nothing has changed I can deal with.  But an 'enforcement officer'?  Really?
While I question the morality of the thing in general, I also have to wonder how much of the licence fee goes to checking up on whether people are paying their licence fee!  It seems that there is a visit to an address every 5 seconds, day, evening - including weekends. 10,101 visits a day they say.  I wonder how many people, on the streets and in various offices around the country, are involved in this.  I wonder what the total cost of policing this is.
It's the implied threat of a visit from an 'enforcement officer' that has got me wound up.  Does anyone else find that offensive?
They probably have a few people running round pretending to be a lot. I am dubious of the figure of 10,101 visits (a nice round number) a day as that equals 2,626,260 visits a year (based on 5 day working week). With the average household comprising of say 3 people and a population of 65,000,000 that equates to about 1 in 10 households not having a TV licence.
I get these threats regularly, my usual answer is what part of the address theatre indicates we should have a TV set.

Offline daffy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: Lapsed
  • Posts: 1758
  • Country: gb
  • Learning everyday
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1037 on: May 05, 2018, 07:32:26 am »
 I would advise  anyone bothered in this manner by the Licence checkers to complete a declaration that you don't need a licence. The TV Licensing website gives this page for doing just that:

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/telling-us-you-dont-need-a-tv-licence

It might stop the plonkers! :D


Just a warning: note that you don't need to have a TV nowadays to be required to have a TV Licence. Note the wording near the top of the page linked above:
Quote
You don’t need a TV Licence if you:
never watch or record programmes on any channel as they’re being shown on TV or live on an online TV service, and
never download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand.
This could be on any device, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console, digital box or DVD/VHS recorder.


So if you don't have a TV but use another device to watch BBC programs, the nice folks from the Licensing Police could be knocking on your door! :o

PS - for full clarity, here's the wording from the Licensing website that gives the exact detail of when you do have to have a licence:

Quote
[You need to be covered by a TV Licence to
watch or record live TV programmes on any channel
download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand.
This applies to any provider you use and any device, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console, digital box or DVD/VHS recorder./quote]
« Last Edit: May 05, 2018, 07:39:30 am by daffy, Reason: PS added »
Mike

Sufferin' succotash!

Offline Malc

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 21878
  • Posts: 4349
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1038 on: May 05, 2018, 10:53:07 am »
When I worked for the Beeb, I used to get letters demanding payment for a TV license. Each time I responded by saying we didn’t require one. After a few years of this I got fed up and called them. The guy I spoke to told me his wife was a great Archers fan and if I could get her some publicity info, he could get us off the mailing list. A quick call into the Archers office and a large envelope in the post and we were off the list. Please note, I don’t think this works for anyone else.
I'm not sure if life is passing me by, or trying to run me over.

Offline Newportnobby

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+63)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • N Gauge Society Number: 21962
  • Posts: 29602
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1039 on: May 05, 2018, 12:21:00 pm »
Strewth! I think I'd rather pay a licence fee, Malc

Offline Ian Bowden

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26504
  • Posts: 306
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1040 on: May 05, 2018, 07:58:19 pm »
What gets me riled about the declaration is they have us down 3 times in their records and despite several assurances that it has been corrected we inevitably get 3 separate threatening letters.

Offline silly moo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 28102
  • Posts: 1556
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Female
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1041 on: May 24, 2018, 01:57:27 pm »
Being driven bonkers by passwords. :veryangry: In this electronic age you seem to need a password for almost everything including this forum and remembering them is a real test, unless they are all the same which is inadvisable. I store mine in an app on my iPad but if that were to get stolen I'd be in trouble so I need to back them up on a piece of paper which isn't safe either but trying to remember them all is the worst and I'm not even senile yet  ???

Offline Zwilnik

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 19730
  • Posts: 1782
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1042 on: May 24, 2018, 02:23:52 pm »
Being driven bonkers by passwords. :veryangry: In this electronic age you seem to need a password for almost everything including this forum and remembering them is a real test, unless they are all the same which is inadvisable. I store mine in an app on my iPad but if that were to get stolen I'd be in trouble so I need to back them up on a piece of paper which isn't safe either but trying to remember them all is the worst and I'm not even senile yet  ???

if you're using an iPad, switch on iCloud Keychain storage. Then all your passwords are stored securely on iCloud, which means you can use it to auto-fill most web ones and access them in an emergency (from any of your devices ). If you've switched 2 factor authentication on then nobody is going to get access to them if the device is stolen (especially if you've got Find my iPad on, because you can remote lock it)

Offline Zwilnik

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 19730
  • Posts: 1782
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1043 on: May 24, 2018, 02:24:57 pm »
Besides that, you live in South Africa at the moment don't you? Don't you have flamethrowers fitted to your iPad for security like they do on the cars there? :)

Offline silly moo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 28102
  • Posts: 1556
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Female
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1044 on: May 24, 2018, 02:33:26 pm »
No real flame throwers on cars here but sometimes we could do with them! Leaving SA for good on Sunday. In a recent robbery my iPad wasn't stolen but my phone and laptop were, they had lots of passwords on them so everything had to be changed, adding to the confusion.

Offline daveg

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 22509
  • Posts: 4882
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1045 on: May 24, 2018, 03:18:36 pm »
Well safe journey and a happy landing wherever you plan to be, Veronica.  :wave:

Hope you'll still be on the Forum, too.

Dave G

Offline njee20

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 22598
  • Posts: 3847
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1046 on: May 24, 2018, 03:35:36 pm »
Either use a password manager, meaning you need only remember one password, or take a unique attribute from the site the password is for; so have NGFpassw0rd or BBCpassw0rd or whatever - easy to remember and unique by site.

Aaaaand remember that despite what we're told, longer and simple is far harder to crack than short and complex. A sentence is immeasurably better than throwing random symbols and numbers into the mix.

If you want to check how secure your password is you can do so here

Offline austinbob

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23835
  • Posts: 4328
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1047 on: May 24, 2018, 03:50:43 pm »

If you want to check how secure your password is you can do so here
I don't think I'd wanna be entering any of my passwords into a site not known to me !!!  ;)
Size matters - especially if you don't have a lot of space - and N gauge is the answer!

Bob Austin

Offline Newportnobby

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+63)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • N Gauge Society Number: 21962
  • Posts: 29602
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1048 on: May 24, 2018, 03:59:06 pm »
@silly moo
Are you sad to be leaving SA, Veronica, and where are you heading to (if you don't mind me asking, of course)?

Offline njee20

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 22598
  • Posts: 3847
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Unhappy Thread
« Reply #1049 on: May 24, 2018, 04:05:43 pm »

If you want to check how secure your password is you can do so here
I don't think I'd wanna be entering any of my passwords into a site not known to me !!!  ;)

There’s healthy scepticism and... ;)

 

Please Support Us!
October Goal: £55.00
Due Date: Oct 31
Total Receipts: £55.00
Below Goal: £0.00
Site Currency: GBP
100% 
October Donations


Advertise Here
anything